Re: [Frameworks] Voice over

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Universal Hotel,  by Peter Thompson
Routine Pleasures, by Jean Pierre Gorin (almost all voiceover)
Jollies, by Sadie Benning
Vanalyne Green’s work (Spy in the House that Ruth Built
Las Hurdes, by Bunuel



> On Apr 8, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Shashwati Talukdar  wrote:
> 
> Bill Brown
> 
> regards,
> 
> Shashwati Talukdar
> 夏雪莉
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> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:59 PM, Anthony Yanick  > wrote:
> Chris Marker, Wim Wenders, https://vimeo.com/108736758. 
> ..
> 
> On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Mariah Garnett  > wrote:
> Hi!
> Does anyone have recommendations of films that are all voice over that are 
> particularly great?
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Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 94, Issue 20

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Aren’t all of Warhol’s Screen Tests portraits?



> On Mar 26, 2018, at 1:38 PM, Katherine Bauer  wrote:
> 
> HI Frameworkers
> I was wondering if anyone could give some titles of films that are "portrait 
> films"
> I am teaching at Hofstra U, and I am feeling stumped after assigning the kids 
> to make a portrait film, on examples of what to show them. 
> Just juggling so much, thought I would reach out for some help on at least on 
> of my 100s of to dos! 
> Anything, narrative, experimental, avant-gaurd, structuralist, montage...
> just that tells the story of a person. 
> preferably SHORT FILMS! But CAN also be features too. 
> Thanks.
> xoK
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Re: [Frameworks] Long takes and still images/ photography in experimental films

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David Rimmer’s  Surfacing on the Thames
Ernie Gehr   Still






> On Mar 12, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Sebastian Wiedemann 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks to all,
> Great and so generous comments. And indeed sorry for being so imprecise when 
> I asked to reference on "long takes". What I was wondering, was an intrinsic 
> relationship between long takes and still images. Films that include both 
> procedures. Like Weerasathakul  in Uncle Boonme that include both or when 
> Sukurov and Tarkovsky make long takes from paintings (If we consider painting 
> also as still images) or even Hollis Frampton's Nostalgia and the classic 
> Wavelength by Michael Snow. 
> Once again thanks and I will check all the stuff you share with me,
> Best, 
> Sebastian 
> 
> 
> 
> ‌
>   Sent with Mailtrack 
> 
> 
> 2018-03-12 10:55 GMT-03:00 konstantinos goutos  >:
> ...since 2002 I am only working (or walking;) with long takes 
> and very often the whole work consists of one long take...
> 
> Time Is variable: from 2 minutes:
> 
> https://vimeo.com/user2082822/les-mysteres-de-paris-i 
> 
> 
> till 16 minutes or more..:
> 
> https://vimeo.com/user2082822/thevideoflaneu-shoots-himself-suite-a-des-problemes
>  
> 
> 
> 
> konstantinos-antonios goutos / the[video]Flâneu®  
>  
> am ortenbergsteg 1, 
> d-35039 marburg  
>   
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> mobile:+49 1520 51 33 257 
> mobile:+49 1763 48 77 173 
> home:  +49 6421 8405497 
> 
> videoflan...@gmail.com 
> 
>  
> https://konstantinosantoniosgo
>  utos.wordpress.com 
> 
> http://videoflaneur.googlepages.com 
> 
> 
>   next shows  
> 
> -thewrongwater.org  online show 
> -space/time berlin (d), spring 2018
> -kunst in marburg, marburger kunstverein (d), june 29th-august 16th, 2018
> -distraction and propaganda, MART gallery dublin (irl), july 2018
> -a virtual memorial madrid 2018, november 8th-10th, 2018, museo la 
> neomudejar, madrid (es)
> 
> 
> ✉️ next grants 磊
> 
> -goerlitz (d), fall 2018-summer 2019, artist-in-residence, 
> university of applied sciences zittau - goerlitz
> 
> 
>  next publications 
> 
> -10 years artists-in-residence enschede (nl), anniversary book, may 2018
> 
> 
>  next praxis workshops / conferences  
> 
>  -urban walking – the Flâneur as an icon of metropolitan culture in 
> literature and other media, jena (d), march 9-10, 2018
> 
>
> next [video]strolling.workshops 
> 
> -fbs giessen and city giessen (d) march 17th, 2018 <>
> -volkshochschule (=folk high school) kreis giessen and city lich (d), april 
> 14th-15th, 2018 <>
> -volkshochschule (=folk high school) wetzlar and city wetzlar(d), april 
> 21th-22th, 2018 <>
> -volkshochschule (=folk high school) kreis marburg-biedenkopf and city 
> biedenkopf (d), april 28th, 201 <>8
> -volkshochschule (=folk high school) marburg and city marburg (d), may 5th, 
> 2018 <>
> -volkshochschule (=folk high school) kreis giessen and city frankfurt (d), 
> june 9th-10th, 2018 <>
> -academy burg fürsteneck, eiterfeld (d), june 22th-24th, 2018 <>
> -bergische volkshochschule (=folk high school) wuppertal and city wuppertal 
> (d), june 30th-july 1, 2018 <>
> -volkshochschule (=folk high school) mettmann-wülfrath and city mettmann (d), 
> july 7th-8th, 2018 <>
> -hessische lernkräfteakademie, summer conference, august 31th, 2018, 
> frankfurt am main (d) 
> 
> 12 Μαρ 2018, 2:38 μμ, ο χρήστης «konstantinos-antonios goutos 
> >» έγραψε:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Στις Κυρ, 11 Μαρ 2018 στις 8:10 μμ ο χρήστης lady snowblood 
>> > έγραψε:
>> I know it’s “television” but ... Twin Peaks : The Return is, in its 
>> entirety, astonishingly slow. Certain scenes are given the padding of ‘not 
>> turning away’ from really uncomfortable moments (especially couples 
>> fighting). One episode ends with a 3.5 minute shot of a bartender sweeping 
>> up peanut shells from the bar. 
>> 
>> The whole series lasts 18 hours; Lynch exhausts the viewer’s expectation of 
>> ‘plot movement’ early on by shifting the pacing. Pacing and sound design 
>> really put this in an ‘experimental’ space. 
>> 
>> I know it’s 

Re: [Frameworks] question - 'the body/artist anatomies' in experimental film

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I confess I have not been closely following this thread, but in case no one has 
mentioned:

Kubelka’s  Pause!  might be of interest, as might any number of things 
involving Herman Nitsch.

Shirley Clarke’s two video works with Joseph Chaiken,  Tongues and Savage/Love  
foreground Chaiken’s body.

Vito Acconci’s early Super 8mm films and video work. 

Has no one mentioned Carolee Schneemann?


Bob Harris
 
> On Mar 11, 2018, at 9:28 AM, Jessica Arseneau  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> It might not be exactly what you're looking for, but it could add something 
> to your research:
> 
> In Barbara (2012) from Christian Petzold, there's a scene close to the 
> beginning where the doctor makes an analysis of Rembrandt's painting "The 
> Anatomy Lessons of Dr. Nicolaes Tulp". Definitely a great scene.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Jessica Arseneau
> 
> http://jessarseneau.github.io 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Feb 26, 2018, at 5:07 PM, Seth Pimlott  > wrote:
> 
>> Dear Frameworkers,
>> 
>> I am working with some young artists on an artists' anatomy - a  film about 
>> a body - drawn from the experiences of the group. 
>> 
>> We have looked at the work of Ana Mendieta, and Derek Jarman's Blue for 
>> inspiration.
>> 
>> But I wanted to ask a question. I wondered if there were some other films 
>> that you might recommend  - films that might be described as 'subjective' 
>> maps of the body in one way or another?
>> 
>> Thank you very much for your time,
>> 
>> Seth
>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

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I’m reticent to put art associative words around anyone’s work, but you might 
consider the work of Aldo Tambellini, who painted on, inked on, scratched on, 
film, in the early 1960’s.
You would have to ask him if he considered his work “abstract expressionist”. 
He’s till alive and active at 87, and lives in Cambridge, MA You can find some 
examples on youTube.
“Blackout”  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQMBlV9tUnk
“Black Trip” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQMBlV9tUnk

and numerous others.






> On Dec 1, 2017, at 3:05 PM, Myron Ort  wrote:
> 
> Can anyone site an example of “abstract expressionist” painting onto film 
> prior to 1968?  (Hopefully with online viewing availability).
> 
> 
> https://vimeo.com/220986135 
> 
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> www.zeno-okeanos,com
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental/feminist films with a woman's voice-over narration?

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It seems to me that the list of such films rather long, given the number of 
women making films.

Hermine Freed   Art Herstory
Vanalyne Green’s works  Spy in the House that Ruth Built
Saddle Sores
Sadie Benning’s works
Moira Davey’s work
Trinh T. Minh-ha ’s works
Yvonne Rainer’s works

and

Robert Harris  Coyote
Chris MarkerSans Soleil

Look at the Women Make Movies catalog



> On Nov 2, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Ben Ogrodnik  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am requesting some film suggestions for a list of experimental, 
> independent, and/or feminist-leaning films that contain a woman -- or 
> multiple women -- providing voice-over narration to the images.  
> 
> The works can be from any era, in any format: documentary, animation, 
> fiction, found-footage, anthropological, installation-based, etc.
> 
> Some well-known examples of this tradition would be: Laura Mulvey and Peter 
> Wollen's Riddles of the Sphinx, 1977; Michelle Citron's Daughter Rite, 1978; 
> or Su Friedrich's Sink or Swim, 1990.
> 
> Any examples of woman-voiced films that may be lesser known, or made outside 
> EuroAmerican settings, would be greatly appreciated as well!
> 
> Thanks so much.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Ben 
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] spirit communication

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Kenneth Anger:  Invocation of my Demon Brother

and Inauguration of the Pleasure Dome





On Sep 26, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Matt Shaw  wrote:

> Hi everyone, 
> 
> I'm looking for examples of documentary and experimental documentary film and 
> video on the topic of spirit communication (EVP, mediums, etc.). 
> 
> Re-starting a project in this realm myself and looking for existing work I 
> can use to gauge direction, what has and hasn't been covered, etc. 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Vegetable films?

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as we continue to answer the vegetable question with fruits,

Robert Nelson’s  Oh dem watermelons








On Sep 13, 2017, at 10:03 PM, Chuck Kleinhans  wrote:

> Les Blank, Garlic is as good as ten mothers
> 
>   of course many of his other films include harvesting and cooking and 
> eating and celebrating food, muisc and dance   (includes meat)
> 
> On gardening, tilling land 
> 
> Marjorie Keller, The Answering Furrow, 1985 (27 min.): sound, color; 16 mm
> 
> 
> If you include fruits:
> 
> There was a wacky pixillation film done in the 60s about a heard of banannas 
> that ran around like lemmings, huriling themselves to death.  Can’t remember 
> the maker or th title, but I think the title referred to the genus and 
> speciies name of the common banana fruit.  Perhaps it is  now lost—the last 
> few times I screened it in class it was pretty far gone and there seemed to 
> be only one print.
> 
> 
> And didn’t Larry Gottheim also make a film about a bowl of blueberries? Scott 
> McD? help here?)
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Vegetable films?

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Another from Frampton, regrettably neither contemporary nor “by frameworkers 
here” (unless Hollis is here from the Bardo)
Works and Days, 1969, 12:00min.   see FMC

one of Joyce Wieland’s films (some frameworker surely knows which) contains the 
Beach Boy’s song Vegetable.

bob harris

ps.  if you accept ethnographic films as “experimental” (and i don’t know why 
you would but the A-G category excludes some brilliant non-narrative 
non-feature films)
there are some wonderful films about agriculture by such filmmakers as John 
Marshall and Robert Gardner.
Gardner and Karl Muller’s Land Divers of Melanesia  concerns a yam harvest.
distributed by DER, which has an entire “Agriculture” section in their index of 
films.





On Sep 12, 2017, at 7:53 AM, Richard Ashrowan  wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm putting together an experimental film screening "In Praise of 
> Vegetables", (to happen in Scotland, on 27th November).
> 
> I would really welcome some suggestions. Initially thinking of some works 
> such as Suzan Pitt's Asparagus (1978), Barbara Hammer's Women I Love (1976), 
> Hollis Frampton's Carrots & Peas (1969) - I could certainly use some more 
> contemporary recommendations, and anything made by frameworkers here.
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> Richard
> 
> Richard Ashrowan
> Alchemy Film and Moving Image Festival
> Next edition: 3-7 May 2018
> Hawick, Scottish Borders
> Submissions: http://alchemyfilmfestival.org.uk/2017/submissions/
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Re: [Frameworks] looking for films, works of expanded cinema, web-based projects, and installations

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The concerns and interests implicit in your inquiry, time, immediacy, delay, 
and the live, liquid, streaming nature of the signal, were extensively explored 
in many early works of analog video.  
 
The most obvious that comes to mind is Ira Schneider and Frank Gillette’s  Wipe 
Cycle.  Also Shirley Clarke’s TeePee Videospace Troup

Anyone interested in such ideas should read Ina Bloom’s excellent text, The 
Autobiography of Video: The Life and Times of a Memory Technology
http://www.sternberg-press.com/?pageId=1650

Robert Harris


On May 22, 2017, at 9:13 PM, John Muse  wrote:

> Hive mind!  I’m beginning research on moving image media works that couple 
> and complicate the relations between the following events, with an emphasis 
> on the time they take: the time-of-the-profilmic-event, the 
> time-of-the-recording-apparatus, the time-of-the-assembly-protocols, the 
> time-of-the-display-apparatus, and the time-of-the-viewing-experience.  
> 
> A mouthful, I know!  But these events are relatively autonomous, as we know, 
> and ubiquitously so.  Time lapse, slow motion, closed-circuit works and delay 
> systems, and even the simplest continuity edit, which purports to build a 
> single event for the viewer out of disparate events before the camera, 
> partake of this trouble.  But I’m looking for works that critically 
> investigate and exploit these relations.  Man with the Movie Camera, of 
> course and as usual, made all of these features explicit through 
> undercranking, overcranking, animation, jumpcuts, cross-cutting times and 
> spaces, superimpositions, split-screens, and the use of the movie house 
> itself.  
> 
> So many other works from the tradition of experimental film to consider.  
> Things I already love: Ernie Gehr’s Serene Velocity, Nancy Holt’s Boomerang, 
> and Ken Jacob’s Tom Tom and his Nervous Magic Lantern performances.  From the 
> conceptual media side of the aisle: Bruce Nauman’s Live-Taped Video Corridor, 
> Dan Graham’s tape delay works, Douglas Gordon’s 24 Hour Psycho, and many of 
> David Claerbout’s works.   
> 
> Help please!  I’m looking for other canonical materials, especially expanded 
> cinema works, and more contemporary efforts, ones that split these relations 
> even further: between image capture and image playback, there is processing, 
> whether optical and analog or digital: compression schemes, datamoshing, and 
> spline morphing, i.e., "bullet time" and other interpolation protocols.
> 
> Comments and clarifying questions appreciated.   
> 
> j/PrM
> 
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> visual media scholar
> haverford college
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Re: [Frameworks] Film Production Books

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Domininic

This is a really good book. I used to own it in the 70’s, but I sold it when I 
was quite poor. Now I teach in the film department that Gunther Hoos founded.  
Sadly, he died this past year. Problem with your offer is that the book can be 
bought from Amazon for around $15.



On Mar 30, 2017, at 7:38 PM, Dominic Angerame  
wrote:

> I have a copy of "The Handbook of S8mm Production" by Mark Mikalos and Gunter 
> Hoos. This is published in the 70s and a detailed instruction book on 
> Super8mm fimmaking with great photos and illustrations. A must for those 
> working in S8mm. It is more intensive then Lipton's book. It is on Ebay if 
> interested I can give frameworkers discounts
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] mental problems

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Dream of a Rarebit Fiend,  (1906) Edwin S. Porter   [arguably not a “feature” 
but what was a feature in 1906?





On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Friends, I’m seeking recommendations of feature films with scenes that 
> attempt to visualize inner states of mind such as breakdowns (Vertigo), 
> nightmares (Spellbound), acid trips (Easy Rider) or any other kind of 
> hallucination (Altered States). Ecstatic or horrific doesn’t matter. Thanks.
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Re: [Frameworks] mental problems

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..and also El Topo




On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Friends, I’m seeking recommendations of feature films with scenes that 
> attempt to visualize inner states of mind such as breakdowns (Vertigo), 
> nightmares (Spellbound), acid trips (Easy Rider) or any other kind of 
> hallucination (Altered States). Ecstatic or horrific doesn’t matter. Thanks.
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Re: [Frameworks] mental problems

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I suspect there are exponentially more “mental states” movies than there are 
“eulogy” movies (and we’ve seen how many of them are out there), but I’m too 
busy to conjure up all the old/good ones that I know…
but I must mention  Imamura’s  The Pornagraphers.   

On Mar 22, 2017, at 12:41 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Friends, I’m seeking recommendations of feature films with scenes that 
> attempt to visualize inner states of mind such as breakdowns (Vertigo), 
> nightmares (Spellbound), acid trips (Easy Rider) or any other kind of 
> hallucination (Altered States). Ecstatic or horrific doesn’t matter. Thanks.
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Re: [Frameworks] Production resources at liberal arts colleges

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Stephanie,

Whether or not the forum is appropriate, I think the question is too broad and 
too vague. An opening question would be does Media Studies mean production?
If “yes” to production, what are your aspirations and how much money do you 
want to spend?
A frequent contributor to this forum, Dave Tetzlaff, used to seem to take great 
pleasure in giving well informed, detailed answers to queries such as this, but 
I haven’t seen posts from him lately.
Dave?

Robert Harris

 
On Feb 23, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Stephanie Hutin  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the appropriate forum for this, but I am going to 
> try. Please feel free to ignore.
> 
> I am looking to get an idea of general production 
> faculty/gear/software/server offerings in media studies programs similar to 
> ours (Intercollegiate Media Studies, Claremont Colleges).  As things continue 
> to change rapidly in the digital realm, it would be wonderful to bounce ideas 
> off others in the same situation for future planning purposes. 
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Stephanie Hutin, M.F.A.
> Director of Production, Intercollegiate Media Studies
> Mosbacher/Gartrell Center for Media Experimentation and Activism
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Re: [Frameworks] Werner Nekes Travels

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Werner Nekes and Dore O. visited Sarah Lawrence College when I was an student 
there in 1971. While of course I recall their Jum Jum, I was more taken by Dore 
O.’s Kaldalon, an exquisite “landscape” film, shot during their recent travels 
in Iceland. Both were still rapturously enthusiastic about Iceland. I’ve wanted 
to visit the Iceland of that film ever since. I think the closest (in luminance 
and spirit) I ever got was in the high Andes of central Ecuador. Both Nekes and 
Dore O. were sweet, gracious and giving individuals, most generous with their 
time with eager young filmmakers. To expand a bit this eulogistic thread, Nekes 
and Dore O. came to Sarah Lawrence thanks to Howard Guttenplan, who brought a 
number of prominent filmmakers, all of whom played significant roles in the 
education of the two film students interested in Avant-Garde work.

Bob Harris




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Re: [Frameworks] portrayals of "the future" in animation and experimental film?

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The work of William Kentridge, Mine, for example, is exceptional.

Bob Harris



On Jan 12, 2017, at 4:42 PM, Stephanie Hutin  wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am teaching an experimental animation class with a social justice focus 
> this semester. We will be creating a touring program for children around the 
> theme of "The Future". I plan to start our first day (Thursday 1/19) with 
> some free-writing about their thoughts on the future, followed by some 
> examples of what artists in experimental cinema and animation have made in 
> their vision. Any films that you think may fit my lesson, would be much 
> appreciated as well. Thank you!
> 
> Best,
> Stephanie
> 
> 
> 
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> Intercollegiate Media Studies
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Re: [Frameworks] Structural Film

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Jonathan,

I’ve got FC#47 and could scan it for you if no one has one at hand. I’m just 
returning from 6 weeks of immersion so I can’t get to the task for a week or 
so, but if you still need it let me know.
I’m Robert Harris   lagonab...@gmail.com.

rh



On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Jonathan Walley  wrote:

> The Film Culture Reader version is revised, with some important additions and 
> subtractions. Only the Ur-text will do here!
> Thanks, though!
> JW 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Michael Betancourt 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's reprinted in the Film Culture reader anthology if that's more 
>> accessible
>> 
>> Michael Betancourt
>> Savannah, GA USA
>> 
>> 
>> michaelbetancourt.com
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>> www.cinegraphic.net | the avant-garde film & video blog
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Jonathan Walley  wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I’ve lost my copy of the original “Structural Film” essay, from Film Culture 
>> #47. Film Culture pre-1990s is not to be found on any research databases (at 
>> least none to which I have access), and I don’t feel like shelling out $240 
>> for the one and only used copy on amazon. Does anyone have a scanned copy 
>> they might send my way (off-list)? 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Jonathan “out of summertime beach reading in a big way” Walley
>> 
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>> Department of Cinema
>> Denison University
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[Frameworks] Exemplary Sound Design in AG Film

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For a class I’m preparing, I’m interested in suggestions as to Experimental 
Films with exemplary, excellent sound design and sound editing.
By excellent I mean, complex, layered, inventive, of rich and nuanced 
timbre….excellent for it’s sonic qualities (as opposed to strictly intellectual 
qualities).
As I plan to rent prints, it would be helpful if the works were available from 
FMC, Canyon, MOMA or some USA domestic distributor.
I would include:

Baillie’s Castro Street  & Quick Billy, 
Kubelka’s Unsere Afrikareise, 
Hindle’s Watersmith
Jack Chambers’ Hart of London

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Re: [Frameworks] two more

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1.  The end of L’Eclisse



On Mar 10, 2016, at 5:43 PM, Gene Youngblood  wrote:

> Friends, in the last couple of weeks you have generously assisted me in 
> finding films with certain content, like shadows, swings, and 360-degree 
> camera moves. They’re for two presentations I’m giving in San Francisco late 
> April, which I’ll tell you more about as the time approaches. Meanwhile, I 
> need two more:
> 
> 1. Empty city streets. “The World, Flesh, and the Devil” is an example, New 
> York without people.
> 
> 2. In Woody Allen’s “Annie Hall” subtitles tell us what he and Diane Keaton 
> are really thinking as they talk with one another. I’m drawing a blank on 
> another, more recent, film with well known actors that has a similar scene. 
> My recollection is that it’s not necessarily intended to be humorous, but I 
> could be wrong about that. Any ideas about this or any film in which the 
> technique is used? It has to be text on screen, not voice-over “inner 
> monologue,” which text represents in these instances.
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Films about glass and light

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While it has been too too many years since I have seen the early work of Andrew 
Noren,
I’m certain that the film formally known as Kodak Ghost Poems, and some of his 
later films
would definitely meet your criteria.  Certainly the part about light, and much 
of Noren’s light came in through glass windows.




On Feb 3, 2016, at 10:38 AM, Salah Hassanpour  wrote:

> Robert Beavers' A Pitcher of Colored Light (2007)
> 
> Salah Hassanpour
> 
> On Feb 3, 2016 10:27,  wrote:
> If you're going to show Tacita Dean you should also consider Disappearance at 
> Sea, parts one and two which, if I'm not mistaken, are films of lighthouses. 
> Delft Hydraulics is also about light via water.
> 
> Nicky.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: nicky.ham...@talktalk.net
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Sent: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 13:38
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films about glass and light
> 
> Stan Brakhage: Text of Light. A world in an ashtray.
> Some of Jamie Jenkinson's iPhone videos are very glassy: 
> http://www.jamiejohnjamesjenkinson.com/
> John DuCane: Zoom Lapse. Windows.
> Michael Snow: Wavelength.
> Nicky Hamlyn: Silver Street. Views out of windows and mirrors included.
> 
> Nicky.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Sheri Wills 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Sent: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 2:19
> Subject: [Frameworks] Films about glass and light
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> As part of a celebration of the 50th anniversary of the glass department at 
> RISD 
> for next year, we are beginning to plan a series of screenings of (mostly 
> experimental) films that engage with materials, ideas, experiences of glass 
> and/or light - materially, abstractly, physically, metaphysically…..
> 
> We are planning a projection of Line Describing a Cone, and a screening of 
> Text 
> of Light. The preliminary long list includes Moholy-Nagy’s films, Tacita 
> Dean’s 
> Green Ray, and the 1959 industrial film, Glas, by Bert Haanstra.
> 
> It would be wonderful to hear thoughts from this group.
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> Sheri
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Re: [Frameworks] Experimental Films on Farming/ Agriculture

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Taylor Dunne,  Corn Mother  (on vimeo)

Monteith McCollum’s work might be of interest (samples on Vimeo)

one of Andrew Noren’s lesser known films (I don’t know if he ever formally 
declared it to be a finished film, or part of a larger film) involved typically 
Noren-esque light bathed texture and color, of opium poppy fields in 
Afghanistan or Pakistan, men harvesting oozing latex.  Seen in 1971? at the old 
Mercer St. Kitchen. Noren’s footage of Panda bears in heat in the same show, 
though I guess that’s not agriculture.

If Sweetgrass is to be considered “avant-garde/experimental” there are many 
works.
Check with DER, under Agriculture; certainly not all, but a few titles are 
film-form smart.
http://www.der.org/films/index-by-subject.html#agri
Like Hillary Harris’ THE NUER.







On Jan 14, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Heath Iverson  wrote:

> Any suggestions on avant-garde/experimental films that deal with any aspects 
> of farming/gardening/plant or animal agriculture?
> 
> A few examples might be Marjorie Keller's Answering Furrow or Lucien 
> Castaing-Taylor's Sweetgrass. Other ideas? 
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Re: [Frameworks] sound examples in film + video

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For mainstream features, check out the BFI Screen Guides text, 100 Modern 
Soundtracks by Phillip Brophy.
Brophy’s introduction offers a constructive contextualizing perspective.  
Decent text for laying a groundwork for thinking about sound in narrative 
features.
Bresson is always brilliant with sound.  
Kubelka’s sound in Unsere Afrikareise is fantastic.
Baillie is sonically strong in Castro Street and Quick Billy.
Deborah Stratman does some great sound work.
My own, Suite of Summer Evenings, if I may, has a rich soundscape. (if you’d 
like to judge for yourself, I’ll send you the Vimeo password).

robert harris

On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Matt Shaw mshaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 
 I’m looking for recommendations of films + videos that can be used to 
 exemplify the use of sound (diegetic and non-).
 
 This is for an introductory video studio course with the section focusing on 
 sound ending with a portrait/doc project.
 
 All types and styles of filmmaking appreciated. 
 
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Vasulkas research

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You’re welcome, Mathew.
Good luck with your research.

BH



On Apr 29, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Maat Galindo odnila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Bob, I will get in touch with the contacts you provided.
 
 Shridhar Bapat had a very interesting story, thank you for sharing an 
 important and overlooked figure.
 
 Mathew Galindo
 
 On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:12 PM, lagonaboba lagonab...@gmail.com wrote:
 Matthew,
 
 The Vasulkas are a vast and worthy subject unto themselves, each individually 
 and the two as collaborators.
 The Kitchen is another story, the origins of which are inseparable from the 
 narrative surrounding the Vasulkas.
 The long story of the Kitchen is, no doubt like so many art politic stories, 
 complex and conflicted.
 To learn more about the early kitchen you must contact Dimitri Devyatkin   
 http://www.devyatkin.org.
 and Rhys Chatham   http://www.rhyschatham.net, in addition to the 
 Vasulkas.
 You should also read about Shridhar Bapat.   
 http://www.bidoun.org/magazine/27-diaspora/aleph-null-by-alexander-keefe/
 
 Bob Harris
 
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Maat Galindo odnila...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I appreciate the links everyone, I will dive into their site !
 
 Mathew Galindo
 
 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:21 PM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote:
 It’s all here http://www.vasulka.org/index.html . Go to “Site Map,” then 
 “Kitchen.”
 
 On Mar 31, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Elizabeth McMahon elizmcma...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I'd start with this. It is the definition of a tome. 
 http://www.amazon.com/Buffalo-Heads-Practice-Pioneers-1973--1990/dp/0262720507/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1427818203sr=8-1keywords=buffalo+media+vasulka
 
 Elizabeth McMahon
 
 On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Maat Galindo odnila...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I am conducting a research paper on  the history of The Kitchen, the role 
 of the Vasulkas and their contributions to experimental media. 
 
 Does anyone have any readings on these subjects that they can link me to?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Mathew Galindo
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Steenbeck Repair

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There is also Dwight Cody at the Boston Connection
http://www.cutfilm.com

He’s great.  Does this work all the time.
Now you can compare prices and availability.






On Apr 7, 2015, at 3:40 PM, Elisa Da Prato elisadapr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks!
 
 Yes, if anyone has his contact please do send. If not I will reach out to you 
 directly, Caryn.
 
 warmly,
 elisa
 
 On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Paul Tomasko is still around and still servicing Steenbecks, as far as I 
 know.  We used him regularly for repair work at The New School.  He's great.  
  I no longer have his contact information, however.  If no one on this list 
 comes up with it, I can get it for you.
 
 Best,
 
 CC
 
 
 
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 wrote:
 Hello Frameworkers,
 
 Does anyone know of a Steenbeck repair person in the New York City area?
 
 Thanks! 
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Re: [Frameworks] Books on the History of Avant-Garde film in US

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Sidney Peterson, “The Dark of the Screen”
Wheeler Dixon, “The Exploding Eye”



On Jan 29, 2015, at 4:16 PM, lagonaboba lagonab...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nothing like building a bibliography to warm the heart on a cold snow covered 
 day.
 These lists always seem to detour away from the literal query…”American”  
 “History” (nobody said Theory)
 but perhaps:
 
 Jonas Mekas “Movie Journal”
 P. Adams Sitney  “Eyes Upside Down”
 P. Adams Sitney, ed. “The Collected Writings of Gregory Markopolous”
 P. Adams Sitney, ed. “The Essential Cinema”
 P. Adams Sitney, ed. “Film Culture Reader
 Standish Lawder, “The Cubist Cinema”
 R.Russett  Cecile Starr, “Experimental Animation”
 Bill Nichols, “Maya Deren and the American Avante Garde
 David James, “To Free the Cinema
 
 
 There are many volumes dedicated to the work of individual filmmakers.
 and if Annette Michaelson’s valuable exhibition catalog,New Forms in Film”, 
 already mentioned by Truniger, counts,
 then,
 Vincent Grenier, ed. catalog 10 Years of Living Cinema”
 
 
 
 
 On Jan 29, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Gawthrop, Rob rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.uk 
 wrote:
 
 Film Is - Steve Dwoskin
 
 From: Michael Betancourt hinterland.mov...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Date: Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:16
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: [Frameworks] Books on the History of Avant-Garde film in US
 
 I'm sure I'm forgetting something, so please help!
 
 Histories of avant-garde film in the United States:
  
  
 Lewis Jacobs, “Experimental Cinema in America 1921-1947” in The Rise of the 
 American Film (1948)
 
 Roger Manvell, Experiment in the Film (1949)
  
 Gregory Battcock, The New American Cinema (1967)
  
 Sheldan Renan, An Introduction to the American Underground Film (1967)
  
 Parker Tyler, The Underground Film: A Critical History (1698)
  
 Gene Youngblood, Expanded Cinema (1970)
  
 David Curtis, Experimental Cinema (1971)
  
 Amos Vogel, Film as a Subversive Art (1976)
  
 P. Adams Sitney, Visionary Film (1974)
  
 Maureen Turin, Abstraction in Avant-Garde Films (1978/85)
  
 William Wees, Light Moving in Time: Studies in the Visual Aesthetics of 
 Avant-Garde Film (1992)
  
 Scott MacDonald, Avant-Garde Film Motion Studies (1993)
  
 James Peterson, Dreams of Chaos, Visions of Order (1994)
  
 Jan-Christopher Horak, Lovers of Cinema: The First American Film 
 Avant-garde, 1919-1945 (1998)
  
 Joan Hawkins, Cutting Edge: Art-Horror and the Horrific Avant-Garde (2000)
  
 Bruce Posner, Unseen Cinema: Early American Avant-Garde Film 1893-1941 (2001)
  
 Lauren Rabinovitz,Points of Resistance: Women, Power, and Politics in the 
 New York Avant-garde Cinema, 1943-71 (2003)
  
 David E. James, The Most Typical Avant-Garde: History and Geography of Minor 
 Cinemas in Los Angeles (2005)
  
 Paul Arthur, Line of Sight: American Avant-Garde Film Since 1965 (2005)
  
 Alexander Graf, ed., Avant-Garde Film (Avant-Garde Critical Studies 23) 
 (2007)
  
 A. L. Rees, A History of Experimental Film and Video (2011)
 
 
 Michael Betancourt
 Savannah, GA USA
 
 
 michaelbetancourt.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Books on the History of Avant-Garde film in US

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Nothing like building a bibliography to warm the heart on a cold snow covered 
day.
These lists always seem to detour away from the literal query…”American”  
“History” (nobody said Theory)
but perhaps:

Jonas Mekas “Movie Journal”
P. Adams Sitney  “Eyes Upside Down”
P. Adams Sitney, ed. “The Collected Writings of Gregory Markopolous”
P. Adams Sitney, ed. “The Essential Cinema”
P. Adams Sitney, ed. “Film Culture Reader
Standish Lawder, “The Cubist Cinema”
R.Russett  Cecile Starr, “Experimental Animation”
Bill Nichols, “Maya Deren and the American Avante Garde
David James, “To Free the Cinema


There are many volumes dedicated to the work of individual filmmakers.
and if Annette Michaelson’s valuable exhibition catalog,New Forms in Film”, 
already mentioned by Truniger, counts,
then,
Vincent Grenier, ed. catalog 10 Years of Living Cinema”




On Jan 29, 2015, at 3:45 PM, Gawthrop, Rob rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.uk wrote:

 Film Is - Steve Dwoskin
 
 From: Michael Betancourt hinterland.mov...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Date: Thursday, 29 January 2015 18:16
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: [Frameworks] Books on the History of Avant-Garde film in US
 
 I'm sure I'm forgetting something, so please help!
 
 Histories of avant-garde film in the United States:
  
  
 Lewis Jacobs, “Experimental Cinema in America 1921-1947” in The Rise of the 
 American Film (1948)
 
 Roger Manvell, Experiment in the Film (1949)
  
 Gregory Battcock, The New American Cinema (1967)
  
 Sheldan Renan, An Introduction to the American Underground Film (1967)
  
 Parker Tyler, The Underground Film: A Critical History (1698)
  
 Gene Youngblood, Expanded Cinema (1970)
  
 David Curtis, Experimental Cinema (1971)
  
 Amos Vogel, Film as a Subversive Art (1976)
  
 P. Adams Sitney, Visionary Film (1974)
  
 Maureen Turin, Abstraction in Avant-Garde Films (1978/85)
  
 William Wees, Light Moving in Time: Studies in the Visual Aesthetics of 
 Avant-Garde Film (1992)
  
 Scott MacDonald, Avant-Garde Film Motion Studies (1993)
  
 James Peterson, Dreams of Chaos, Visions of Order (1994)
  
 Jan-Christopher Horak, Lovers of Cinema: The First American Film Avant-garde, 
 1919-1945 (1998)
  
 Joan Hawkins, Cutting Edge: Art-Horror and the Horrific Avant-Garde (2000)
  
 Bruce Posner, Unseen Cinema: Early American Avant-Garde Film 1893-1941 (2001)
  
 Lauren Rabinovitz,Points of Resistance: Women, Power, and Politics in the New 
 York Avant-garde Cinema, 1943-71 (2003)
  
 David E. James, The Most Typical Avant-Garde: History and Geography of Minor 
 Cinemas in Los Angeles (2005)
  
 Paul Arthur, Line of Sight: American Avant-Garde Film Since 1965 (2005)
  
 Alexander Graf, ed., Avant-Garde Film (Avant-Garde Critical Studies 23) (2007)
  
 A. L. Rees, A History of Experimental Film and Video (2011)
 
 
 Michael Betancourt
 Savannah, GA USA
 
 
 michaelbetancourt.com
 twitter.com/cinegraphic | vimeo.com/cinegraphic
 www.cinegraphic.net | the avant-garde film  video blog
 
 
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