Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-11 Thread Chris Lange
.net> > To: "Experimental Film Discussion List" <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 11:42:53 AM > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film > > I would say that the most of Brakhage’s extensive painting on film was > insp

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-05 Thread John Sundholm
t; för Marcin Gizycki <mgizy...@hotmail.com> Skickat: den 5 december 2017 01:05 Till: Experimental Film Discussion List Ämne: Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film Maybe somebody has already pointed to this: https://lux.org.uk/writing/revisiting-brakhage-4-abstract-expressionism-na

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2017-12-04 Thread Marcin Gizycki
To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> Subject: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film Can anyone site an example of “abstract expressionist” painting onto film prior to 1968? (Hopefully with online viewing availability). https://vimeo.com/220986135 Myr

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2017-12-04 Thread Petri Kuljuntausta
ybe art historians of the future will link all free abstract images as > "abstract expressionism" but I don't think so. > > Cheers, > Robert > > > WithersWorks.com > 202 West 80th St. #5W > New York, NY 10024 > >

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2017-12-04 Thread Robert Withers
the future will link all free abstract images as "abstract expressionism" but I don't think so. Cheers, Robert WithersWorks.com 202 West 80th St. #5W New York, NY 10024 On Dec 3, 2017, at 7:00 AM, frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com wrote: > Re: Pa

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-03 Thread Ignacio Tamarit
*Im Auftrag von *Myron Ort > *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017 15:15 > *An:* Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> > *Betreff:* Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film > > I do not recall that Oscar Fischinger applied paint directly to film, can >

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2017-12-03 Thread Myron Ort
asfilms.com > <mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com>] Im Auftrag von Myron Ort > Gesendet: Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017 15:15 > An: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>> > Betreff: Re:

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-03 Thread Ingo Petzke
: Sonntag, 3. Dezember 2017 15:15 An: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> Betreff: Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film I do not recall that Oscar Fischinger applied paint directly to film, can you cite an example of his using that technique? T

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-03 Thread Rannou Pierre
art de Myron Ort <z...@sonic.net> Envoyé : 3 décembre 2017 09:15 À : Experimental Film Discussion List Objet : Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film I do not recall that Oscar Fischinger applied paint directly to film, can you cite an example of his using that technique? True he i

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-03 Thread Pip Chodorov
The earliest examples of hand painting abstractions on flim were by the futurists Ginna and Corra, but those films are lost. Only descriptions survive (that they wrote themselves) At 13:01 +0100 3/12/17, Ingo Petzke wrote: Ooooppss No direct painting on the film strip by FischingerŠ

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2017-12-03 Thread Pip Chodorov
As far as I know, Fischinger never painted on flim, he only filmed artwork, or he painted on glass under a camera and clicked frames as he painted. Pip At 13:00 +0100 3/12/17, Ingo Petzke wrote: What about some Oscar Fischinger? ___ FrameWorks

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2017-12-03 Thread Ingo Petzke
eworks] Painting directly to film Can anyone site an example of “abstract expressionist” painting onto film prior to 1968? (Hopefully with online viewing availability). https://vimeo.com/220986135 Myron Ort www.zeno-okeanos,com <http://www.zeno-ok

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-03 Thread Ingo Petzke
Wat about some Oscar Fischinger? Cheers Ingo Von: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] Im Auftrag von Myron Ort Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Dezember 2017 21:06 An: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> Betreff: [Frameworks] Painting di

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-02 Thread Myron Ort
The 35mm Sistiaga film was shown several years ago in San Francisco unfortunately with a very loud and overbearing soundtrack of live “music” (inescapable electronic noise and thumbing bass as I recall). I really don’t know why they do that. There seems to be a couple of digital relics on

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-02 Thread Ignacio Tamarit
*era erera baleibu izik subua aruaren *was the first cameraless film I ve ever seen in my life before I knew what that meant! I remember seeing in at the cinema projected in its original 35 mm cinemascope, and I remember seeing things like shoes, or objects whatever. Some years later I got to know

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2017-12-02 Thread Fred Camper
Now this is a really interesting suggestion. This film is quite spectacular. On my one viewing, I was in many ways disappointed, but that could change on later viewings, and in any case it is unique, not really like anything I have seen, and anyone interested in abstract filmmaking should see

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2017-12-02 Thread Ignacio Tamarit
I will recommend Jose Antonio Sistiaga´s *era erera baleibu izik subua aruaren ...* (1968–70). A feature lenght cameraless film of pure abstract imaginery. xoxo 2017-12-01 23:33 GMT-03:00 Samantha Heth : > I find this website is interesting to browse around. It might take a

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-01 Thread Samantha Heth
I find this website is interesting to browse around. It might take a few clicks to find something you need, but the artists featured usually have some kind of video/work sample attached. It might be helpful! http://www.handmadecinema.com/ On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Janet Benn

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-01 Thread Janet Benn
Len Lye Norman McLaren On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 3:05 PM, Myron Ort wrote: > Can anyone site an example of “abstract expressionist” painting onto film > prior to 1968? (Hopefully with online viewing availability). > > > https://vimeo.com/220986135 > > > *Myron Ort* >

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-01 Thread Myron Ort
Thank you for those links. Nice to see those early examples. This one also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT9t2bF6BvU I do understand your reticence, I only used the 'art associative' term to hopefully indicate a distinction from the prevalent

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-01 Thread lagonaboba
I’m reticent to put art associative words around anyone’s work, but you might consider the work of Aldo Tambellini, who painted on, inked on, scratched on, film, in the early 1960’s. You would have to ask him if he considered his work “abstract expressionist”. He’s till alive and active at 87,

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2017-12-01 Thread Amanda Christie
>>> -Original Message- >>> From: Myron Ort <z...@sonic.net <mailto:z...@sonic.net>> >>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> <mailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>> >>> Sent: Fri, Dec

Re: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-01 Thread Myron Ort
. > > > -Original Message- > From: Myron Ort <z...@sonic.net> > To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com> > Sent: Fri, Dec 1, 2017 3:05 pm > Subject: [Frameworks] Painting directly to film > > Can anyone site an example o

[Frameworks] Painting directly to film

2017-12-01 Thread Myron Ort
Can anyone site an example of “abstract expressionist” painting onto film prior to 1968? (Hopefully with online viewing availability). https://vimeo.com/220986135 Myron Ort www.zeno-okeanos,com ___ FrameWorks mailing list