Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text

[Janis Crystal Lipzin]

 Thanks so much!
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> Péter Forgács' _Wittgenstein Tractatus_ springs to mind.
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> -Kian
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> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Ben Ogrodnik 
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>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Can you recommend to me any experimental, avant-garde films that examine
>> key works/thinkers of Western continental or analytical philosophy?
>> 
>> The type of film I'm interested in is not a film that can be analyzed
>> through a philosophical lens, but rather one in which a philosophical text
>> makes some kind of direct appearance (through a quotation, intertitle,
>> etc.) For instance, one example might be the 16mm film *Valley Fever* by
>> Stephanie Beroes, 1986, which features a woman reading lengthy excerpts
>> from Maurice Merleau-Ponty's phenomenological thought.
>> 
>> I am currently working on a list of experimental films united by a common
>> interest in visualizing philosophical texts.  Alas, this subfield is not my
>> main area of expertise, so your help is greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks so much!
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> Ben
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> Department of Film Studies // History of Art and Architecture
>> University of Pittsburgh
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> I shot a roll of the agfa/wittner and had it processed at Dwayne's Photo. I
> was really unhappy with the green cast. I'm planning to try some old
> Ektachrome VNF thats been frozen since new. Anyone have experience with
> 7250 or 2283 and processing it as E6?
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> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Amanda Thomson 
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>> Hi Dan,
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>> I've also shot 3383 in camera.  The main thing to keep in mind (aside from
>> it needing lots of light) is that it's expecting the orange mask of colour
>> negative so it makes everything super blue if processed in E6 (1st dev
>> 1min, 2nd dev 2 mins, blix 2 mins, stab 30 sec).  You can put orange
>> filters in your camera to compensate.  Alternately if processed to negative
>> its orange.
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>> I've also used the Agfa/Wittner/Aviphot stock it's quite grainy, which
>> seems especially noticable when transfered digitally.  It has an orange
>> brownish leaning.  I'm curious to shoot some green now though.
>> 
>> Amanda
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text? (Ben Ogrodnik)

[INCITE Journal of Experimental Media]

Ben,

You might want to look at Bruce Elder's work, especially the films that
make up his *Book of All the Dead* cycle, like *Illuminated Texts,
Consolations, *and *Exultations*.

http://rbruceelder.com/filmography.html

Best,
Brett


On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:00 AM, 
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> From: Ben Ogrodnik 
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
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> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:20:45 -0500
> Subject: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?
> Hi all,
>
> Can you recommend to me any experimental, avant-garde films that examine
> key works/thinkers of Western continental or analytical philosophy?
>
> The type of film I'm interested in is not a film that can be analyzed
> through a philosophical lens, but rather one in which a philosophical text
> makes some kind of direct appearance (through a quotation, intertitle,
> etc.) For instance, one example might be the 16mm film *Valley Fever* by
> Stephanie Beroes, 1986, which features a woman reading lengthy excerpts
> from Maurice Merleau-Ponty's phenomenological thought.
>
> I am currently working on a list of experimental films united by a common
> interest in visualizing philosophical texts.  Alas, this subfield is not my
> main area of expertise, so your help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Sincerely,
> Ben
>
>
>
> --
> Ben Ogrodnik
> PhD student
> K. Leroy Irvis Fellow
> Department of Film Studies // History of Art and Architecture
> University of Pittsburgh
> b...@pitt.edu
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?

[James Hansen]

Hi Ben,

Some recent examples.

David Gatten's The Extravagant Shadows (Blanchot, Wittgenstein)
Phillip Warnell's Ming of Harlem (Nancy, Derrida)
Thom Andersen's The Thoughts That Once We Had (Deleuze)
Ben Russell's Atlantis
Most videos by Duke & Battersby
Hito Steyerl's Adorno's Grey

Hope this helps!

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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?

[Dominic Angerame]

My film Anaconda Targets and The Soul of Things open with philosophic
statements from Paul Virilio and Robert Johnson. My film Deconstruction
Sight opens with a text from Moholy-Nagy. You can find descriptions at the
Canyon Cinema site or my home site www.cinemod.net
Thanks

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:20 AM, Ben Ogrodnik 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Can you recommend to me any experimental, avant-garde films that examine
> key works/thinkers of Western continental or analytical philosophy?
>
> The type of film I'm interested in is not a film that can be analyzed
> through a philosophical lens, but rather one in which a philosophical text
> makes some kind of direct appearance (through a quotation, intertitle,
> etc.) For instance, one example might be the 16mm film *Valley Fever* by
> Stephanie Beroes, 1986, which features a woman reading lengthy excerpts
> from Maurice Merleau-Ponty's phenomenological thought.
>
> I am currently working on a list of experimental films united by a common
> interest in visualizing philosophical texts.  Alas, this subfield is not my
> main area of expertise, so your help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Sincerely,
> Ben
>
>
>
> --
> Ben Ogrodnik
> PhD student
> K. Leroy Irvis Fellow
> Department of Film Studies // History of Art and Architecture
> University of Pittsburgh
> b...@pitt.edu
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?

[Steve Polta]

*Daniel Barnett's White Heart* "takes off from a series of Wittgensteinian
monologues."
http://canyoncinema.com/catalog/film/?i=152
*Daniel Eisenberg's Displaced Person* incorporates a radio lecture by
Claude Levi-Strauss.
http://canyoncinema.com/catalog/film/?i=823
*Barbara Sternberg's Like a Dream that Vanishes* features an on-screen
exegesis by philosopher (not the filmmaker) John Davis on Hume's
consideration of miracles.
http://www.barbarasternberg.com/Films/Like%20a%20Dream.htm

All are, in my opinion, very interesting films.

Steve Polta


On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Albert Alcoz 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> *Wittgenstein* (1993) by Derek Jarman could be useful. There are some
> texts by the philospopher recited by the characters.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIu70Jo38eo
>
> *Dromosphäre* (2010) by Thorsten Fleisch begins with a quotation of Paul
> Virilio about speed:
> https://vimeo.com/8067013
>
> On another level, I recommend watching the beginning of this film by Peter
> Rose, named *Pressures of the Text* (1983):
> https://vimeo.com/48773390
>
> Would like to read more suggestions here!
>
> Albert
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Dave Tetzlaff  wrote:
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>> i guess I’m the first to mention the obvious: Michael Snow, "Rameau's
>> Nephew by Diderot"
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?

[Albert Alcoz]

Hello,

*Wittgenstein* (1993) by Derek Jarman could be useful. There are some texts
by the philospopher recited by the characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIu70Jo38eo

*Dromosphäre* (2010) by Thorsten Fleisch begins with a quotation of Paul
Virilio about speed:
https://vimeo.com/8067013

On another level, I recommend watching the beginning of this film by Peter
Rose, named *Pressures of the Text* (1983):
https://vimeo.com/48773390

Would like to read more suggestions here!

Albert

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> i guess I’m the first to mention the obvious: Michael Snow, "Rameau's
> Nephew by Diderot"
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?

[Dave Tetzlaff]

i guess I’m the first to mention the obvious: Michael Snow, "Rameau's Nephew by 
Diderot"
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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?

[Kolberg, Sarah]

Ben –

You may wish to look at Hollis Frampton’s Zorn’s Lemma (the final section) – 
which references (however obliquely) the 11th C philosopher Robert Grosseteste, 
a medieval cosmologist and philosopher who wrote “On light and the beginning of 
forms, which was meant to offer a metaphor of the visible/tangible world as an 
symbol of the spiritual world.

~ sarah






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Subject: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?

Hi all,
Can you recommend to me any experimental, avant-garde films that examine key 
works/thinkers of Western continental or analytical philosophy?

The type of film I'm interested in is not a film that can be analyzed through a 
philosophical lens, but rather one in which a philosophical text makes some 
kind of direct appearance (through a quotation, intertitle, etc.) For instance, 
one example might be the 16mm film Valley Fever by Stephanie Beroes, 1986, 
which features a woman reading lengthy excerpts from Maurice Merleau-Ponty's 
phenomenological thought.
I am currently working on a list of experimental films united by a common 
interest in visualizing philosophical texts.  Alas, this subfield is not my 
main area of expertise, so your help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much!
Sincerely,
Ben



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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?

[John Sundholm]

if plato fits your definition check michael snow's 'so is this'.


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Péter Forgács' _Wittgenstein Tractatus_ springs to mind.

-Kian

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Ben Ogrodnik 
mailto:ben.ogrod...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

Can you recommend to me any experimental, avant-garde films that examine key 
works/thinkers of Western continental or analytical philosophy?

The type of film I'm interested in is not a film that can be analyzed through a 
philosophical lens, but rather one in which a philosophical text makes some 
kind of direct appearance (through a quotation, intertitle, etc.) For instance, 
one example might be the 16mm film Valley Fever by Stephanie Beroes, 1986, 
which features a woman reading lengthy excerpts from Maurice Merleau-Ponty's 
phenomenological thought.

I am currently working on a list of experimental films united by a common 
interest in visualizing philosophical texts.  Alas, this subfield is not my 
main area of expertise, so your help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much!

Sincerely,
Ben



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PhD student
K. Leroy Irvis Fellow
Department of Film Studies // History of Art and Architecture
University of Pittsburgh
b...@pitt.edu<mailto:b...@pitt.edu>

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Re: [Frameworks] experimental films with philosophical text?

[Kian Bergstrom]

Péter Forgács' _Wittgenstein Tractatus_ springs to mind.

-Kian

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Ben Ogrodnik 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Can you recommend to me any experimental, avant-garde films that examine
> key works/thinkers of Western continental or analytical philosophy?
>
> The type of film I'm interested in is not a film that can be analyzed
> through a philosophical lens, but rather one in which a philosophical text
> makes some kind of direct appearance (through a quotation, intertitle,
> etc.) For instance, one example might be the 16mm film *Valley Fever* by
> Stephanie Beroes, 1986, which features a woman reading lengthy excerpts
> from Maurice Merleau-Ponty's phenomenological thought.
>
> I am currently working on a list of experimental films united by a common
> interest in visualizing philosophical texts.  Alas, this subfield is not my
> main area of expertise, so your help is greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
> Sincerely,
> Ben
>
>
>
> --
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> PhD student
> K. Leroy Irvis Fellow
> Department of Film Studies // History of Art and Architecture
> University of Pittsburgh
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