Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:33:12 Russell Coker wrote: Google has a set of binary-only proprietary apps for Android which can only be installed by a hardware vendor who satisfies some Google conditions. That appears to no longer be the case..

[free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
Hi folks, Sorry for being so quiet recently and missing meetings, a combination of lots of work and some timetable clashes.. The US company ZaReason who build Linux systems (and are currently investigating opening a store in New Zealand) have been working on a fully open Android tablet for some

Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Ben Finney
Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org writes: Sorry for being so quiet recently and missing meetings, a combination of lots of work and some timetable clashes.. No-one is obligated to be chatty or quiet, so no apology necessary :-) http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html […] Chris, are you ordering

Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 April 2012 11:53, Ben Finney ben+freesoftw...@benfinney.id.au wrote: But, CyanogenMod isn't free software, remember; it has a higher proportion of free software, but is still very much a non-free operating system and AFAIK has all the non-free drivers as Android. AFAIK, Android itself is

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Tim Cuthbertson
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:19 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2012 19:33:12 Russell Coker wrote: Google has a set of binary-only proprietary apps for Android which can only be  installed by a hardware vendor who satisfies some Google conditions. That appears to

Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On 26/04/12 11:53, Ben Finney wrote: Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org writes: Chris, are you ordering one? I get annoyed with online stores that insist I create an account in order merely to buy something, and ZaReason appears to be yet another one of those. No, only interested in a netbook

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 April 2012 12:58, Tim Cuthbertson t...@gfxmonk.net wrote: There's a note on that page that some apps can now be downloaded from the marketplace, but it's important to realise that the marketplace app itself is one such binary-only app that you can't legally get unless it came with your

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On 26/04/12 12:58, Tim Cuthbertson wrote: Unless I'm missing something, that still seems to back up Matt's statement. Er, I was replying to Russell.. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Free-software-melb mailing list

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 April 2012 12:58, Tim Cuthbertson t...@gfxmonk.net wrote: There's a note on that page that some apps can now be downloaded from the marketplace, but it's important to realise that the marketplace app itself is one such binary-only app that you can't legally get unless it came with your

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 April 2012 13:16, Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au wrote: The google apps have been included with the iso distribution of android-x86 - does this mean downloading it is illegal? Supposedly android-x86 is entirely open source - see http://www.android-x86.org/ - I wonder if

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Tim Cuthbertson
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Chris Samuel ch...@csamuel.org wrote: On 26/04/12 12:58, Tim Cuthbertson wrote: Unless I'm missing something, that still seems to back up Matt's statement. Er, I was replying to Russell.. Oops, saw Matt's face above yours in the thread and assumed he was the

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Brian May
On 26 April 2012 13:31, Brian May br...@microcomaustralia.com.au wrote: From those links, I found http://goo.im/gapps, which took me to here: http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Google_Apps Oh, it is kind of weird and unsettling when I copy and paste the links (right click and select copy) from

Re: [free-software-melb] CyanogenMod 7 on SGS2

2012-04-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012, Tim Cuthbertson t...@gfxmonk.net wrote: There are links to downloads of the google apps on that wiki, but I expect it's illegal to distribute them, and maybe even to download them. I think that Google might be most concerned about mass distributors (which is the point of

Re: [free-software-melb] ZaTab from ZaReason - a fully open Android tablet

2012-04-25 Thread Chris Samuel
On 26/04/12 13:16, Chris Samuel wrote: Yes, they have said to me that they chose the Allwinner A10 because it was the most open SoC they could find. I am not clear about the GPU driver Asked via Twitter, their response was: https://twitter.com/#!/ZaReasonNZ/status/195359671450742785