Re: Lock of struct filedesc, file, pgrp, session and sigio

2001-05-31 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 01:46:00PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: It doesn't hurt to help distribute the load some, though. Requiring each person who makes a change to compile it on every possible arch is not something that will scale as more and more archs are added. If a committer can get

Re: make release failure

2001-05-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 11:32:09PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: +.if !defined(NORELNOTES) Do we really need Yet Another Knob? Why isn't NODOC suffient? I cannot think of any reason that the people who typically use NODOC=yes would want release notes. Or please at least treat NODOCS=yes ==

Re: 'make includes' ownership patch

2001-05-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:22:33AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: This was on my TODO. The only problem with INCOWN/INCGRP not being used here is that they were introduced long after include/Makefile. And perhaps one should go read the commit message that introduced them... it was an

Re: cvs commit: src UPDATING

2001-05-28 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:16:46PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: .UPDATING Log: Looks like -current is safe again, and has been since Friday. Alpha is in evern worse shape than x86. The statement that -current is safe is 110% wrong. To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: Date for a working -current?

2001-05-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 04:56:41PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joseph Koshy writes: : I'm in the processing of bring a 5-current system of Oct 2000 vintage : more upto-date. May 18th, 2001 12:00:00 is what I've been using. One must be careful posting something

Re: amd feature request (Re: AMD config file question.)

2001-05-25 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 09:56:42AM -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Now that smbfs is in, can amd be used to mount smb shares? Of course, it can. But can we have something like host type, where all smb-shares available from a host are automaticly accessible? This may be added to the

wchar.h / Citrus import

2001-05-14 Thread David O'Brien
I am going to import parts of the Citrus Project XPG4DL (an implementation of I18N (locale) framework). We *need* wchar.h and we just cannot wait. If there are known concerns or issues with this, please let me know. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: **HEADS-UP** ficl changes change `base' type

2001-05-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 05:20:46PM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: John Sadler is not a Unix user, and has no experience with Unix, and ... If you know exactly how to produce a .tar.gz under Windows that is suitable for our use, I'm sure he would appreciate the help. Ask him to use

Re: cp -u patch

2001-05-11 Thread David O'Brien
Lets try another realistic example: cp -uvp ab* cde*.f* g? h/*.i? j/kl /m What's the find | cpio invocation for that? When you come up with it, it echo ab* cde*.f* g? h/*.i? j/kl /m | cpio ... Messy - No, Portable - Yes. BT - wrong. cp flattens the

Re: **HEADS-UP** ficl changes change `base' type

2001-05-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 02:21:09AM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: John Sadler is not a Unix user, and has no experience with Unix, and ... If you know exactly how to produce a .tar.gz under Windows that is suitable for our use, I'm sure he would appreciate the help. Ask him to use

Re: cvs commit: src/contrib/binutils/ld/emultempl elf32.em

2001-05-03 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 07:48:08AM -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: [Ref. http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=574034+0+current/cvs-all] ... eelf_i386.c:158: elf-hints.h: No such file or directory Crap,crap,crap,crap,crap!!! I thought I had gotten my systems clean enough when I did the

Re: panic in fxp driver

2001-05-01 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 02:16:33PM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: On the other hand, you might try using dwarf2 debugging, that is pretty complete. And what we'll be using when GCC 3.0 is imported. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe

Re: cp -u patch

2001-04-30 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 09:56:09AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: Question is, do we want to add this to our cp? Bleh. :-) Blah. for i in `find /path/to/src`; do if [ $i -nt /path/to/dst/$i ]; then cp $i /path/to/dst/ fi done

Re: Updated: cp -t patch (w/ commentary)

2001-04-26 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 06:08:15PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: Dima Dorfman [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. obrien: that's a very clever and unintrusive way of avoiding getting two copies of a message; much better than

Re: Updated: cp -t patch (w/ commentary)

2001-04-25 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Apr 23, 2001 at 11:33:24AM -0700, John W. De Boskey wrote: After some feedback, I have changed the patch slightly. Rename -d to -t and remove the requirement for the option to have a value. I thought people generally agreed the right fix was to add functionality to `xargs', not

Re: One more typo in src/release/Makefile, rev 1.612? (w/patch)

2001-04-22 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 08:10:39PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: Also, Bruce's fix is not entirely correct as it breaks for the non-debug kernel case, but I've already sent you a mail about that, just to let everyone know that it should be fixed shortly. :) I commited your "fix" for it. IMHO,

Re: Typo in src/release/Makefile, rev 1.161 (PATCH INCLUDED)

2001-04-16 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 10:05:03AM +0900, Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: There is a small typo in src/release/Makefile rev 1.161; not 'kernel', but 'KERNEL' is correct. I think I got all these already. But I rev 1.161 is from back in 1995. Are you sure you've got the right

Re: One more typo in src/release/Makefile, rev 1.612? (w/patch)

2001-04-16 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Apr 16, 2001 at 09:53:43AM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: Thanks for fixing the typo in src/release/Makefile. I think however the real cause of the error that people were seeing is a typo on the line Damnit, I *tested* this and things landed in the right place. Grrr... Ok, no more

Re: readline.h 1.12 incompatible with gdb.291/gdb/top.c 1.2, I think

2001-04-13 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 06:40:42PM +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: Yes. Backward-compatible prototypes was enabled very recently to help old applications. I didn't expect it break gdb compilation again I need to update my box to test. It will probably be 2-3 hours and it will be fixed. To

Re: World borken :((

2001-04-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 06:43:52PM +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 17:41:09 +0300, Maxim Sobolev wrote: GDB maintainer already notified with proposed patch. Awake now. Patch commited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in

Re: World borken :((

2001-04-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 08:34:37PM +0400, Andrey A. Chernov wrote: Well, if you know about this problem why you did not wait for his reply before proceeding with importing? First of all, David ask me for readline importing, what I did was an response. But my request wasn't a request to

Re: Failed to load linux.ko during boot

2001-04-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 11:30:21PM +0200, Morten Skriver wrote: [morten@mosk-pc]:/usr/home/morten$ linux kldload: can't load linux: Operation not permitted ELF binary type "3" not known. Abort trap You did not `brandelf' your /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig. Did you install this from

Re: i586 FP optimizations hosed.

2001-04-01 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 06:34:12PM +0200, Leif Neland wrote: CPU1 stopping CPUs: 0x0001... Stopped. Stopped at i586_bzero_oops+0x1: jmp i586_bzero_oops I get panics on that instructions too on my old 60MHz P5. I've got a core dump, will tell more when I can interpret it... Mark's

Re: i586 FP optimizations hosed.

2001-03-30 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 07:45:43AM +0200, Mark Murray wrote: I thought the 586 FP stuff was disabled? Nope. Depending on how current you are, it was either left broken. I commited BDE's fix to exeception.s that fixed things for K6-2 users. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: /etc/exports: 192.168.5 = 192.168.0.5

2001-03-25 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 04:08:47PM +0300, Valentin Nechayev wrote: 192.168.5 should be interpreted as 192.168.0.5 in host address context, but as 192.168.5.0 in network address context. (Such network address context is well seen in sentences such as "10/8", "192.168/16".) Where is this

Re: upgrade tcpdump in -current?

2001-03-24 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:19:54PM +0100, Mark Huizer wrote: Are there any plans on upgrading tcpdump to e.g. 3.6.2, which has better support for e.g. NFS over IPv6? Bill Fenner was working on this. I don't know what happened to it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: panic: resource_list_alloc

2001-03-24 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 11:24:47PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: doing so right now ... one quick/stupid question ... how does one 'reinstall' a new kernel so that you don't lose the /boot/kernel.old (aka make reinstall -or- make kernel-reinstall removing pcm fixes the panic, it

Re: panic: resource_list_alloc

2001-03-24 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 05:58:53AM +0100, Cameron Grant wrote: can you try http://people.freebsd.org/~cg/mssfix.diff.gz ? Fixed my panics too. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: [FIX] Re: CFS - Portmap

2001-03-23 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 12:49:33AM +0100, Martin Blapp wrote: /etc/mount -o port=3049,intr localhost:/null /crypt What machine are you doing this on?? FreeBSD has no /etc/mount? -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to

** HEADS UP ** portmap daemon renamed to rpcbind

2001-03-21 Thread David O'Brien
The Portmapper binary has been renamed from `portmap' to `rpcbind'. The name change was taken care of in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and in the auto-dependacy code in /etc/rc. HOWEVER, you may need to edit your /etc/hosts.allow and make the name change there. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: CURRENT instability

2001-03-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 03:23:55PM -0800, Edwin L. Culp wrote: It would really be nice to have this committed, if it doesn't break anything, to not have to be patching every time. It will be. I am waiting a responce back from someone. But one way or another it will be fixed -- I run two

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:12:35AM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: A while ago someone suggested a /etc/md.conf and an mdon(1) similar to swapon(1). Putting it in terms of this analogy make this approach sound quite reasonable. This solution is much more flexible than simple /tmp fs on md

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 10:32:23PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The version of the patch for -current uses the softdep mount option only. If you remove the mount option, you dont get softupdates. In this case, it might be better to just turn it on by

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 08:27:54PM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, quacks like a duck, Sorry David, but it there is nothing duck-like about at all... From a user's stand point, it acts just like the old MFS when used to create a swap backed

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 05:12:13PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: There's always the 'nosoftdep' mount option. It's also possible to enable it by default on everything except the root filesystem, but that's a [minor] POLA violation. I fail to see what is wrong with defaulting to `off'. -- --

Re: swap-backed md-based /tmp to replace mfs-based one

2001-03-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 03:11:09PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: We really need to provide a better rc.conf hook for doing this -- expecting people to write their own script just to create a /tmp is lame. It should be a wrapper called mount_mdfs or mount_mfs so people upgrading can keep their

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 11:51:54AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: I think this is really the only place to do it, just to ease confusion. You also wouldn't need to put superblock-frobbing code into sysinstall, just bundle tunefs into the mfsroot. Why not add the softupdates option to newfs?

Re: Entropy harvesting? Grim reaper is more like it...

2001-03-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 01:39:58PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: Erm, just so you know. The 4100 here at WC doesn't even make it past the SCSI probe due to interrupt issues. Hmm. Well, it *was* working a couple of days ago :-) Uh, actually _your_ 4100 is the only I've ever known to work

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:06:20PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: I seem to recall Paul Saab has a set for both -current and -stable. Someone else also just posted a URL to a set of patches. Is Paul going to commit his, or can I take this on and commit the ones posted? -- -- David ([EMAIL

Re: sysinstall option for softupdates

2001-03-10 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 09:51:46PM -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: Are you talking about se's patches to make softdep a mount option, yes The former isn't something you can just drop in. You'd have to decide if softdep should be the default. It defaults to what tunefs sets it to -- POLA. If

Re: tape device names and devfs

2001-03-08 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:50:23PM +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: dump.8 and dump(8) both refer explicitly to nsa0 and nrsa0 whereas sa0 and nsa0 are the actual device names in -current. The dump sources also refer to only the 'r' devices (_PATH_DEFTAPE is still "/dev/rsa0"). Fixed. :-)

Re: MFC of Perl 5.6?

2001-03-07 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 06:33:09PM -0500, Forrest Aldrich wrote: I searched the archives, and found this question asked, but no responses. I wonder when (if) Perl 5.6 will be MFC'd to 4.x. ^^ Uh, _*WHY*_ are you sending this to freebsd-current

Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related?

2001-03-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:01:23AM -0600, GH wrote: http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/intr2.patch has fixed my problems so far. This seems to be my luck: -- The file http://people.freebsd.org/~jhb/intr2.patch does not exist at this server. -- Where can I otherwise get

Re: well! That root didn't work! Let's try another!

2001-03-04 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 01:13:36PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: This might also be the source of the 'going nowhere without my init' install failures that so plague alphas? No it is libdisk doing *err()* calls!! A library should *NOT* be exiting on its own. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: More on system hangs ... IRQ related?

2001-03-04 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:42:22PM -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: Okay, are there any known problems with the SB128 cards? Figuring that it couldn't hurt to remove it, I did ... so far, X hasn't hung ... not Hum... interesting. I also have a PCI SB128 card and one hang when I was using

Re: Getting a first build up and running?

2001-03-03 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:06:15AM -0800, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: I have a machine I want to use as a FreeBSD-Current machine since I want to work with some of the new features in 5.x that I require for a port (I'm ... The problem is that the machine is right now at

Re: make kernel failure: pecoff: machine/lock.h

2001-02-27 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 11:28:37AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: Have you tried running make depend? I've got the same problem about a bogus dependancy on machine/lock.h. And yes, this is after a `make depend' on a /sys I *just* CVSup'ed. :-( -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) GNU is

Re: dirty buffers on reboot again?

2001-02-23 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 03:20:10PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: login: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 16 ... syncing disks... 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 giving up on 3 buffers ... I'm seeing a lot of this again. Anyone else? Yep. ahc controller also. By chance is that

Re: New GCC changes broken

2001-02-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 01:54:29PM +0100, Martin Blapp wrote: Do people test their changes ? warning: passing arg 1 of `unshare_all_rtl' from incompatible pointer type ... /usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_int/../../../../contrib/gcc.295/toplev .c:3828: too few arguments to function

Re: got stuck in the current __sF foo...

2001-02-17 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 03:36:18PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: One system got stuck in the current __sF bork... I'm not stuck with: One thing that may work is to set libc's version number in the Makefile to something that has never existed on your system. Try a `make world'. Move any

Re: HEADS UP: -current world broken since Feb 10

2001-02-16 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:44:10AM +0100, Stephan van Beerschoten wrote: DO NOT TRY TO UPGRADE -STABLE OR A PRE-FEB 10 -CURRENT TO A POST-FEB 10 -CURRENT UNTIL THIS IS RESOLVED. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. Any updates on this yet ? Warner committed a fix for this. But I'm having trouble

Re: HEADS UP: -current world broken since Feb 10

2001-02-16 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 10:03:06AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: Did you snag stdio.h as well? My buildworld on a virgin tree post my fix on a 4.2-stable system completed last night. My system was probably so hosed nothing was going to fix it. I backed up my sources to varisous dates and could

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-15 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 12:47:59AM +, Paul Richards wrote: Instead what we have now is libxyz.so.3 and libxyz.so.3 which are different from each other. No different than two libxyz.so.3.1 and libxyz.so.3.1 could be (a.out days). (well not entirely true, but in the a.out days, one could

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-15 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 11:14:38AM +, Paul Richards wrote: Commercial vendors will skip version numbers in their public releases if their internal development required more than one bump. Which ones? Sun Solaris still ships their libc as "libc.so.1", even in Solaris 8. -- -- David

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-15 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:44:26PM +, Paul Richards_imap/mail.originative.co.uk/Inbox.sbd/New Mail.sbd/OpenLDAP.sbd/Devel wrote: I suggest you take a look at http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/als2000/full_papers/browndavid/browndavid_html/ Yes, I know how

Re: cvs commit: ports/palm/pilot-link Makefile

2001-02-15 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 06:28:10PM +0900, Akinori MUSHA wrote: knu@archon[2]% uname -a FreeBSD archon.local.idaemons.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Wed Feb 14 16:49:24 JST 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/villa/work/obj/freebsd/src/usr/local/src/sys/ARCHON i386 knu@archon[2]% gcc

Re: Major bumping of libFOO

2001-02-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 03:45:57PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: Here's a patch that I think will fix the major breakage with major library versions. I haven't tried to build -current for a few days now. Can you summerize what breakage you are seeing? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Major bumping of libFOO

2001-02-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Feb 15, 2001 at 12:32:33AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "David O'Brien" writes: : On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 03:45:57PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: : Here's a patch that I think will fix the major breakage with major : library versions. : : I hav

Re: ipfilter broken?

2001-02-13 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:00:26PM +0800, Donny Lee wrote: Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: ===ipfilter make: don't know how to make machine/lock.h Stop. *** Error code 2 Looks like a stale dependency file to me. Try 'make cleandir' twice, followed by the usual 'make depend make

Re: ipfilter broken?

2001-02-13 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 05:18:04AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Donny Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ===ipfilter make: don't know how to make machine/lock.h Stop. *** Error code 2 Looks like a stale dependency file to me. Try 'make cleandir' twice, That only works in /usr/src

Re: ipfilter broken?

2001-02-13 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 11:15:24AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: "David O'Brien" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 05:18:04AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Donny Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ===ipfilter make: don't know how to make machine/loc

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-13 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:24:00PM +, Paul RichardsF wrote: When we dropped minor numbers I had a worry that we'd run into one of Windows' greatest problems and we have. Applications that are developed and tested to work with a particular library might not work with a different version,

Re: Is -CURRENT in bad shape?

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 01:20:36PM +0700, John Indra wrote: Now I'm in the middle of make -j10 buildworld. Is -CURRENT in bad shape? First thing to do when you're having problems building world is to STOP using -j. If you aren't hitting a race condition, you won't get able to figure out what

Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 02:19:36PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: Changes of this magnitude require a bump of the major number, even though we've already done that in -current. It breaks nearly everything, including the upgrade path. How does it break the upgrade path from 4.x to 5.0?? 5.0 has a

Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:20:04PM -0800, Alex Zepeda wrote: How is this more acceptable than bumping the major number? Are they really so precious that they can only be incremented once for a release cycle? Yes. I don't want to be in a position where we wonder what happened to libc.so.5

Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 01:42:16PM -0800, Alex Zepeda wrote: Yup, I agree here. IMO so many things depend on the stdio bits, that a major number increase would have been desireable. So far, bzip2, pine/pico, GNU make, the GNU i18n stuff, fetchmail all needed to be rebuilt. Bumping the

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 01:48:33AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Peter will likely commit a patch sometime soon. I am hoping it is posted for discussion to -arch before commit (so we get this right). To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Feb 11, 2001 at 04:44:21PM -0800, Matt Dillon wrote: This is a major change to libc. The library maj must be bumped if you intend to change the sizeof(FILE), or every single third party application that uses stdio will break. For -stable this would be true. We've already

Re: HEADS UP: installworld gotchas

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 11:47:04AM -0500, Garrett Wollman wrote: However, this may turn out to be so painful that we need to bump it again. That is (1) against Handbook documented policy, (2) too hackish (we aren't Linux). To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 04:33:26PM -0800, Alex Zepeda wrote: How about this? :^) Because bumping the shared version again needs *DISCUSSING*. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 05:09:19PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: I can deal with /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 recompiles, but when the installworld dies because the dynamic linked copy of /usr/bin/* in /tmp/XXX/* gets the /usr/lib/libc.so.5 clobbered and explodes, leaving a 100% totally screwed up

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 02:14:03AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: No, it doesn't, because you bumped the libc major. Set it to 500 like we discussedm, and commit (or I will, damnit). Uh, NO. It was discussed on IRC, NOT -arch. It needs to go there before doing something like this. --

Re: kernel threading: the first steps [patch]

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 01:27:04AM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: This is the single most flagrant lack of cooperation I have experienced while working with the FreeBSD Project. I'm truly dumbfounded. It's not a lack of co-operation.. it's a lack of communication. I didn't see an any

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 05:20:51PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: It avoids the current problem: - RELENG_4 bumped from 3.0 to 4.0 - this forced a premature 4.0-5.0 bump in -current Actually "NO". I bumped libc.so because Garret said he had changes ready for libc, but was waiting for someone to

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 06:21:58PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Wemm writes: : Personally, I think we place far too much weight on the major number thing. : I think we should be allowed to bump it when the alternative is 'major pain' : to developers. The

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 06:26:06PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: I don't see why we need only an increment of 1. What does this buy us other than a minor warm fuzzy. It is hackish. OpenBSD bumps libc bunchs of times per release cycle (they are up to libc.so.24 if my sources are current).

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 06:31:53PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Wemm writes: : If we had taken -current to 500, we could go to 501, 502, etc as : required to stop killing our developers, and prior to entering 5.0-BETA we : go back to the next sequentially

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 02:42:15AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've had problems in the past going backwards on major versions of shared libaries. The major problem is that if I have binaries that refer to libc.so.503, then when the major number

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Feb 12, 2001 at 05:44:53PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: "David O'Brien" wrote: Actually going from libc.so.500 to libc.so.{x500} is easy. Copy libc.so.500 into /usr/lib/compat. When the libc.so link is made to libc.so.{x500}, that is the lib version number that will

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 02:29:54AM +0100, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: We can keep that bias by using temporary three-digit majors in -CURRENT and backing down to a single-digit major right before the first -RELEASE. In this specific case, we'd go from 5 to 500 or 501, Please read your -arch

Re: *_ROOT removed

2001-02-07 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 06:28:42AM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: No, there wasn't one.. The commit message was pretty clear - You are reading them, right? We usually do HEAD UP's for stuff that will break people pretty badly or get them in trouble (eg: an unviable kernel if the instructions are

Re: Buildworld failure as of 01-15-2001 @ 8:30 CST

2001-01-15 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 08:37:43AM -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: I just installed the FreeBSD 5.0-20010107-CURRENT snapshot and have cvsup'd to the latest source (as of subject). Buildworld fails as below: Do not manually do anything to get around this yet. Please apply and try this

Re: Buildworld failure as of 01-15-2001 @ 8:30 CST

2001-01-15 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 12:36:34PM -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: I must have left some relics around or something. I am getting a different error: No, I goofed. I'm getting my current test box back into shape so I can build a world before making stupid suggestions. To Unsubscribe: send

Re: Atomic breakage?

2001-01-14 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 09:25:45AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: Due to incompatibilities between __asm in different versions of gcc, several different versions of various macros (and expansions) are necessary. Why is that?? The base, and *only* supported compiler for building kernels is GCC

Re: YES! laptop installing

2001-01-12 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 11:41:17PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark Murray writes: : My Netgear FA510 (dc0) probes (sorta) but comes up with a crazy : MAC address, and then doesn't work. It doesn't even go UP. : : MAC=00:00:80:00:00:80, FWIW. There's about 4

Re: sysinstall.8 Breaking buildworld

2001-01-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:38:55PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: Erm, sysinstall can be used as a replacement for fdisk and disklabel, both of which are in /sbin. In fact, in 4.2 the only tool you can realistically use to splat a virgin disklabel onto a slice w/o weird hoop jumping that isn't

Re: sysinstall.8 Breaking buildworld

2001-01-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 02:22:23PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: I won't argue - move away! Just have one of the CVSmeisters do it as a repo-copy, of course. We cannot repo-copy it to src/sbin - there is a copy there already. We could blow the old one away and lose the history (RELEASE_2_0

Re: entropy bikesheds

2001-01-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 03:00:35PM -0800, Doug Barton wrote: Since this post actually has some content I'm moving it to -current. On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, Warner Losh wrote: I agree. RO / is absoultely *REQUIRED* for our application. As stated, all concerned are sympathetic

Re: make release still broken...

2001-01-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 09:11:20AM +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: === rpcsvc rpcgen -C -h -DWANT_NFS3 /usr/src/include/rpcsvc/key_prot.x -o key_prot.h rpcgen: cannot find any C preprocessor (cpp) *** Error code 1 Let me start a release. This means rpcgen has been using /usr/libexec/cpp

Re: Problems related to disappearnce of libgcc_r

2001-01-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 02:04:05PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: We need to be a little careful for ports that are supposed to work on RELENG_4 and -CURRENT. RELENG_4 and -current are the same in this reguard. I should bump __FreeBSD_version in both and then people can use that as the cut over

Re: Problems related to disappearnce of libgcc_r

2001-01-09 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 02:20:01AM +0200, Maxim Sobolev wrote: Yes, I know it's possible, but to provide a hack in one place istead of 20+ places (find /usr/ports -type f | xargs grep -l gcc_r | wc -l) is much easier both in the terms of efforts and testing required. After all, it would only

Re: missing THREAD_UNLOCK in libc?

2001-01-03 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 05:54:26PM +0100, Nicolas Souchu wrote: A program that previously worked (-current of November) with -pthread now fails with an abort and a " in free(): error: recursive call" warning. I need a copy of this program (source form) to test with. -- -- David ([EMAIL

** HEADS UP ** world build known broken

2001-01-03 Thread David O'Brien
The merging of our bits into GCC 2.95.3(RC#1) took a little longer than I suspected. I've got to head to an appointment, so the world will be broken for a little while. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: ** HEADS UP ** world build known broken

2001-01-03 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jan 03, 2001 at 10:26:30AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: The merging of our bits into GCC 2.95.3(RC#1) took a little longer than I suspected. I've got to head to an appointment, so the world will be broken for a little while. World should be buildable again. Quite sorry for the longer

Re: found the fragger. Re: Problem building -current kernel with read-only /usr/src.

2000-12-23 Thread David O'Brien
On Sat, Dec 23, 2000 at 11:24:50AM -0800, Matt Dillon wrote: like either you or David O'Brien (I'm guessing, your guys names are I will fix it today. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:58:16AM +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: The other day, on a whim, I decided to try running an old binary of SimCity (the same one found in the 'commerce' directory on many FBSD cds), and it failed in a odd way... Does anyone have any old a.out binaries other than

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Mon, Dec 18, 2000 at 02:58:16AM +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: This has been broken for new users for some time. :-( Those of us upgrading from source have been immune to this problem, because we retain the old a.out ld.so binary. /usr/libexec/ld.so: Undefined symbol "___error" called from

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 03:57:07AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: Looks like you got a lot farther than I did with it... Are you sure you don't have an old aout ld.so on that machine? Nope. This is a box that was a virgin install of 5-CURRENT a month ago. I had to install the compat20 and

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 05:09:45AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: res ldd sim sim: -lXext.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/aout/libXext.so.6.3 (0x200c5000) -lX11.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/aout/libX11.so.6.1 (0x200cf000) -lc.2 = /usr/lib/compat/aout/libc.so.2.2 (0x20166000) -lm.2 =

Re: Is compatibility for old aout binaries broken?

2000-12-20 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Dec 20, 2000 at 11:15:55PM +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: Correcting slightly for your slightly off assumption: The X11 libs were probably built on a 3.x box. Their problem is that being newer than libc.so.2.2 (or was it libc.so.3.0) they use ___error but libc does not supply it. My

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