Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation

2024-05-14 Thread Ryan Libby
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 9:09 AM Ryan Libby wrote: > > On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 1:14 AM Alexander Leidinger > wrote: > > > > Am 2024-05-14 03:54, schrieb Ryan Libby: > > > That was a long winded way of saying: the "UMA bucket" axis is > > > actually "vm phys free list order". > > > > > > That

Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation

2024-05-14 Thread Ryan Libby
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 1:14 AM Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > Am 2024-05-14 03:54, schrieb Ryan Libby: > > That was a long winded way of saying: the "UMA bucket" axis is > > actually "vm phys free list order". > > > > That said, I find that dimension confusing because in fact there's > > just

Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation

2024-05-14 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Am 2024-05-14 03:54, schrieb Ryan Libby: That was a long winded way of saying: the "UMA bucket" axis is actually "vm phys free list order". That said, I find that dimension confusing because in fact there's just one piece of information there, the average size of a free list entry, and it

Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation

2024-05-13 Thread Ryan Libby
. > >> https://www.leidinger.net/blog/2024/05/07/plotting-the-freebsd-memory-fragmentation/ > >> > >> My goal was not comparing a specific change on a given benchmark, but > >> to "have something which visualizes memory fragmentation". As part of > &g

Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation

2024-05-09 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Am 2024-05-08 18:45, schrieb Bojan Novković: Hi, On 5/7/24 14:02, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, I created some graphs of the memory fragmentation. https://www.leidinger.net/blog/2024/05/07/plotting-the-freebsd-memory-fragmentation/ My goal was not comparing a specific change on a given

Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation

2024-05-08 Thread Mike Jakubik
t; > > https://www.leidinger.net/blog/2024/05/07/plotting-the-freebsd-memory-fragmentation/ > > My goal was not comparing a specific change on a given benchmark, but to > "have something which visualizes memory fragmentation". As part of that, > Bojans commit >

Re: Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation

2024-05-08 Thread Bojan Novković
Hi, On 5/7/24 14:02, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, I created some graphs of the memory fragmentation. https://www.leidinger.net/blog/2024/05/07/plotting-the-freebsd-memory-fragmentation/ My goal was not comparing a specific change on a given benchmark, but to "have something

Graph of the FreeBSD memory fragmentation

2024-05-07 Thread Alexander Leidinger
Hi, I created some graphs of the memory fragmentation. https://www.leidinger.net/blog/2024/05/07/plotting-the-freebsd-memory-fragmentation/ My goal was not comparing a specific change on a given benchmark, but to "have something which visualizes memory fragmentation"

FreeBSD Status Report - First Quarter 2024

2024-05-05 Thread Lorenzo Salvadore
FreeBSD Status Report First Quarter 2024 Here is the first 2024 status report, with 21 entries. The New Year brings us many new interesting projects, such as the new libsys that separates system calls from libc and libpthread or work on a graphical installer for FreeBSD, which will help making

libclang_rt.asan_static-aarch64.a and libclang_rt.fuzzer_interceptors-aarch64.a in .../tmp/lib/clang/17/lib/freebsd/ not cleaned out

2024-04-21 Thread Mark Millard
In my recent FreeBSD update activity, the following files blocked the "delete old things" activity from from deleting the related old 17/ subdirectory tree for clang: -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel - 8378 Mar 2 19:39:47 2024 /usr/obj/BUILDs/main-CA76-nodbg-clang/usr/main-src/arm64.aarch

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-03-06 Thread Rick Macklem
On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 10:56 AM Matthew L. Dailey wrote: > > Posting a few updates on this issue. > > I was able to induce a panic on a CURRENT kernel (20240215), built with > GENERIC-KASAN and running kern.kstack_pages=6 (default) after ~189 > hours. The panic message and backtrace are below -

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-03-06 Thread Matthew L. Dailey
Posting a few updates on this issue. I was able to induce a panic on a CURRENT kernel (20240215), built with GENERIC-KASAN and running kern.kstack_pages=6 (default) after ~189 hours. The panic message and backtrace are below - please reach out directly if you'd like to have a look at the core.

Re: FreeBSD CURRENT stabilization cycle

2024-02-24 Thread Franco Fichtner
points for snapshot generation. >> >> How about also the likes of: >> >> https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:aarch64/stabweek/ >> >> for pkgbase (various "aarch64" replacements too)? > > yes, great idea, base_stabweek or similar is something I'd vote for.

Re: FreeBSD CURRENT stabilization cycle

2024-02-24 Thread Kirill Ponomarev
How about also the likes of: > > https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:aarch64/stabweek/ > > for pkgbase (various "aarch64" replacements too)? yes, great idea, base_stabweek or similar is something I'd vote for. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

RE: FreeBSD CURRENT stabilization cycle

2024-02-23 Thread Mark Millard
Gleb Smirnoff wrote on Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2024 04:32:52 UTC : > More seriously speaking, I > actually hope that in some future snapshots.FreeBSD.org will start using these > points for snapshot generation. How about also the likes of: https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:15:aarch64

FreeBSD CURRENT stabilization cycle

2024-02-23 Thread Gleb Smirnoff
Hi FreeBSD CURRENT users, back in November I came up with a proposal of providing some stabilization cadence to development of the main branch, also known as FreeBSD CURRENT. Here is a video with the initial proposal and following discussion at VendorBSD Conference (18 minutes): https

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-20 Thread Rick Macklem
On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 11:21 AM Matthew L. Dailey wrote: > > Hi all, > > I induced a panic on my CURRENT (20240215-d79b6b8ec267-268300) VM after > about 24 hours. This is the one without any debugging, so it only > confirms the fact that the panics we've been experiencing still exist in >

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-20 Thread Matthew L. Dailey
Hi all, I induced a panic on my CURRENT (20240215-d79b6b8ec267-268300) VM after about 24 hours. This is the one without any debugging, so it only confirms the fact that the panics we've been experiencing still exist in CURRENT. There was some disk issue that prevented the dump, so all I have

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-19 Thread Rick Macklem
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:44 AM Matthew L. Dailey wrote: > > Hi all, > > So I finally induced a panic on a "pure" ufs system - root and exported > filesystem were both ufs. So, I think this definitively rules out zfs as > a source of the issue. > > This panic was on 14.0p5 without debugging

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-19 Thread Matthew L. Dailey
Hi all, So I finally induced a panic on a "pure" ufs system - root and exported filesystem were both ufs. So, I think this definitively rules out zfs as a source of the issue. This panic was on 14.0p5 without debugging options, so the core may not be helpful. The panic and backtrace are below

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-16 Thread Matthew L. Dailey
Hi all, Before the week was out, I wanted to provide an update on this issue. Last weekend, I installed two VMs with CURRENT (20240208-82bebc793658-268105) - one on zfs and one on ufs - and built a kernel with this config file: include GENERIC ident THAYER-FULLDEBUG makeoptions DEBUG=-g

FreeBSD Status Report - Fourth Quater 2023

2024-02-16 Thread Lorenzo Salvadore
FreeBSD Status Report Fourth Quarter 2023 Here is the fourth 2023 status report, with 18 entries. This is the last 2023 quarter. As you have probably noticed, this status report comes later than usual and with fewer reports than the preceding quarter. Indeed, please keep in mind that the last

Re: How to use the L4 Microkernel with a FreeBSD userland.

2024-02-11 Thread Mario Marietto
I will do it as soon as I get all the necessary tools to turn on the Raspberry Pi 4b. I was thinking that L4 worked like the old project coLinux,where Linux ran as a list of processes under WIndows. In my sick mind I'd thought that L4 allows FreeBSD to run as a list of processes with the L4

Re: How to use the L4 Microkernel with a FreeBSD userland.

2024-02-11 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 11, 2024, at 12:00, Mark Millard wrote: > [Only replying to what I've subscribed to --and I dropped > Warner as well.] > > On Feb 11, 2024, at 11:43, Mario Marietto wrote: > >> ok. But what does this mean ? That I can use whatever Linux distro I want ? >>

Re: How to use the L4 Microkernel with a FreeBSD userland.

2024-02-11 Thread Mark Millard
[Only replying to what I've subscribed to --and I dropped Warner as well.] On Feb 11, 2024, at 11:43, Mario Marietto wrote: > ok. But what does this mean ? That I can use whatever Linux distro I want ? > Or even the FreeBSD world ? Only to build L4Re. The LR4e built will not conta

Re: How to use the L4 Microkernel with a FreeBSD userland.

2024-02-11 Thread Mario Marietto
ok. But what does this mean ? That I can use whatever Linux distro I want ? Or even the FreeBSD world ? On Sun, Feb 11, 2024 at 7:59 PM Mark Millard wrote: > > > On Feb 11, 2024, at 05:44, Mario Marietto wrote: > > > I'm trying to understand how to use the L4 Microker

Re: How to use the L4 Microkernel with a FreeBSD userland.

2024-02-11 Thread Mark Millard
On Feb 11, 2024, at 05:44, Mario Marietto wrote: > I'm trying to understand how to use the L4 Microkernel with a FreeBSD > userland. I've asked the same to a L4 developer,but he told me that he does > not know FreeBSD,so I'm here to ask the same question. First of all

How to use the L4 Microkernel with a FreeBSD userland.

2024-02-11 Thread Mario Marietto
Hello to everyone. I'm trying to understand how to use the L4 Microkernel with a FreeBSD userland. I've asked the same to a L4 developer,but he told me that he does not know FreeBSD,so I'm here to ask the same question. First of all I'm sure that it can be done,because it is written clearly

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-09 Thread Rick Macklem
On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 10:23 AM Matthew L. Dailey wrote: > > I had my first kernel panic with a KASAN kernel after only 01:27. This > first panic was a "double fault," which isn't anything we've seen > previously - usually we've seen trap 9 or trap 12, but sometimes others. > Based on the

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-09 Thread Mark Johnston
t; > > > A double fault is rather unexpected. I presume you're running > > releng/14.0? Is it at all possible to test with FreeBSD-CURRENT? > > This is just 14.0-RELEASE, updated to p4. Haven't played with CURRENT > before, but I'll give it a shot. > > > >

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-09 Thread Rick Macklem
t;v_mount)->nm_flag & NFSMNT_RDIRPLUS) != 0) > + cache_purge(vp); > + > /* > * Call ncl_bioread() to do the real work. > */ > ... without it, I can panic. This is not of interest to Matthew, since he is using Linux clients against a Fr

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-09 Thread Matthew L. Dailey
ing, >> but I don't have the expertise to know if this points to anything >> specific. From the backtrace, it looks like this might have originated >> in ipfw code. > > A double fault is rather unexpected. I presume you're running > releng/14.0? Is it at all possible to test with F

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-09 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
the backtrace, it looks like this might have originated > > in ipfw code. > > A double fault is rather unexpected. I presume you're running > releng/14.0? Is it at all possible to test with FreeBSD-CURRENT? > > Did you add INVARIANTS etc. to the kernel configuration used here, o

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-09 Thread Mark Johnston
sume you're running releng/14.0? Is it at all possible to test with FreeBSD-CURRENT? Did you add INVARIANTS etc. to the kernel configuration used here, or just KASAN? > Please let me know what other info I can provide or what I can do to dig > deeper. If you could repeat the test sever

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-09 Thread Matthew L. Dailey
I had my first kernel panic with a KASAN kernel after only 01:27. This first panic was a "double fault," which isn't anything we've seen previously - usually we've seen trap 9 or trap 12, but sometimes others. Based on the backtrace, it definitely looks like KASAN caught something, but I don't

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-09 Thread Matthew L. Dailey
ver side reading/writiing. It basically translates >> > NFS RPCs to VOP calls on the underlying file system. >> > As such, issues are usually either network fabric on one side >> > (everything from cables to NIC drives and the TCP stack). >> > Since you

Re: FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-09 Thread Mark Johnston
> To be honest, NFS is pretty simple when it comes > > to server side reading/writiing. It basically translates > > NFS RPCs to VOP calls on the underlying file system. > > As such, issues are usually either network fabric on one side > > (everything from cables to N

FreeBSD panics possibly caused by nfs clients

2024-02-08 Thread Matthew L. Dailey
e underlying file system. > As such, issues are usually either network fabric on one side > (everything from cables to NIC drives and the TCP stack). > Since you are seeing this with assorted NICs and FreeBSD > versions, I doubt it is network fabric related, but?? > This is why I'd su

Re: RCS and $FreeBSD$ purge

2024-01-28 Thread Warner Losh
On Fri, Jan 26, 2024, 7:32 PM Steve Kargl wrote: > I'm currently syncing src/lib/msun with my private libm > repository where I do much of my hacking on libm issues. > In looking at diffs, I see a few lingering RCS and > $FreeBSD$ tags. For example, lib/msun/amd64/s_scalbnl.

Re: RCS and $FreeBSD$ purge

2024-01-27 Thread Gordon Bergling
Hi Steve, On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 06:32:26PM -0800, Steve Kargl wrote: > I'm currently syncing src/lib/msun with my private libm > repository where I do much of my hacking on libm issues. > In looking at diffs, I see a few lingering RCS and > $FreeBSD$ tags. For example, li

RCS and $FreeBSD$ purge

2024-01-26 Thread Steve Kargl
I'm currently syncing src/lib/msun with my private libm repository where I do much of my hacking on libm issues. In looking at diffs, I see a few lingering RCS and $FreeBSD$ tags. For example, lib/msun/amd64/s_scalbnl.S contains /* RCSID("$NetBSD: s_scalbnf.S,v 1.4 1999/01/02 05:15:40 kri

Re: How to upgrade an EOL FreeBSD release or how to make it working again

2024-01-18 Thread Warner Losh
On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 3:54 PM Mario Marietto wrote: > Hello to everyone. > > I'm trying to copy the Chromebook's SNOW source files that have been included > on the FreeBSD 11 > revision 269385 to the new FreeBSD 13 revision 373300. It has compiled > correctly world,bu

Re: How to upgrade an EOL FreeBSD release or how to make it working again

2024-01-17 Thread Mario Marietto
Hello to everyone. I'm trying to copy the Chromebook's SNOW source files that have been included on the FreeBSD 11 revision 269385 to the new FreeBSD 13 revision 373300. It has compiled correctly world,but when it starts to compile the kernel,it gives a lot of "unknown option&qu

Re: How to upgrade an EOL FreeBSD release or how to make it working again

2024-01-15 Thread Kevin Oberman
n 15, 2024 at 10:49 AM Mario Marietto wrote: > Hello. > > Do you have deleted forever the set of packages and ports for FreeBSD 11 > or you keep them stored in DVDs that I can buy or download for a small > amount of money ? If yes,where ? To rebuild everything is out of my > experti

Re: How to upgrade an EOL FreeBSD release or how to make it working again

2024-01-15 Thread Mario Marietto
Hello. Do you have deleted forever the set of packages and ports for FreeBSD 11 or you keep them stored in DVDs that I can buy or download for a small amount of money ? If yes,where ? To rebuild everything is out of my expertise. On Mon, Jan 15, 2024 at 7:15 PM David Chisnall wrote: > On

Re: How to upgrade an EOL FreeBSD release or how to make it working again

2024-01-15 Thread David Chisnall
’s one that’s 19 years old and has been largely dead for several years. > But let's change perspective for a moment,don't think about the ARM > Chromebook. My question is : how to upgrade FreeBSD when it goes EOL. Generally, run `freebsd-update`. This is a very different question from ‘

Re: How to upgrade an EOL FreeBSD release or how to make it working again

2024-01-15 Thread Mario Marietto
The ARM Chromebook is based on armv7,it is still recent. But let's change perspective for a moment,don't think about the ARM Chromebook. My question is : how to upgrade FreeBSD when it goes EOL. I ask this because there is a huge difference here between FreeBSD and Linux. Today if you need to use

Re: How to upgrade an EOL FreeBSD release or how to make it working again

2024-01-15 Thread John F Carr
commit?id=9dfa2a54684978d1d6cef67bbf6242e825801f18 I have one of the "snow" Chromebooks. The warnings in the web page https://wiki.freebsd.org/arm/Chromebook led me not to try FreeBSD. None of the many bugs seemed likely to ever be fixed. I'm not using it so I could try an experiment, but f

Re: How do I update the kernel of FreeBSD-CURRENT

2023-11-29 Thread John Nielsen
On Nov 29, 2023, at 12:21 PM, Manoel Games wrote: > > I am a new FreeBSD user, and I am using FreeBSD-CURRENT. How do I update the > FreeBSD-CURRENT kernel, and is it done through pkg? I installed > FreeBSD-CURRENT without src. As a new user you should probably run a supported rel

How do I update the kernel of FreeBSD-CURRENT

2023-11-29 Thread Manoel Games
I am a new FreeBSD user, and I am using FreeBSD-CURRENT. How do I update the FreeBSD-CURRENT kernel, and is it done through pkg? I installed FreeBSD-CURRENT without src.

Re: CDE on FreeBSD 14.0 Release

2023-11-28 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <20231127172506.horde.iibmvttnl5om_j0h4cvd...@webmail.in-berlin.d e>, "Rolf M. Dietze" writes: > Hi, > > might be that I am on the wrong list for this, since my Problem > exists on 14.0Release. > > After an out of the box install of FreeBSD

Re: CDE on FreeBSD 14.0 Release

2023-11-27 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
be that I am on the wrong list for this, since my Problem exists on 14.0Release. After an out of the box install of FreeBSD 14.0 Release and following https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/setting-up-common-desktop-environment-for-modern-use.69475/ I am stuck with CDE. CDE loads, dtlogin starts

Re: CDE on FreeBSD 14.0 Release

2023-11-27 Thread aak
s outlined in the link below, does work. > > Still, having an issue with dtspc upon startup, but CDE works fine > > /rmd > > Quoting "Rolf M. Dietze" : > > > Hi, > > > > might be that I am on the wrong list for this, since my Problem > > exists

Re: CDE on FreeBSD 14.0 Release

2023-11-27 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
with dtspc upon startup, but CDE works fine /rmd Quoting "Rolf M. Dietze" : Hi, might be that I am on the wrong list for this, since my Problem exists on 14.0Release. After an out of the box install of FreeBSD 14.0 Release and following https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/setti

Re: CDE on FreeBSD 14.0 Release

2023-11-27 Thread Mario Marietto
e. > > After an out of the box install of FreeBSD 14.0 Release and following > > https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/setting-up-common-desktop-environment-for-modern-use.69475/ > I am stuck with CDE. CDE loads, dtlogin starts an presents the login > or greeter window, but upon lo

CDE on FreeBSD 14.0 Release

2023-11-27 Thread Rolf M. Dietze
Hi, might be that I am on the wrong list for this, since my Problem exists on 14.0Release. After an out of the box install of FreeBSD 14.0 Release and following https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/setting-up-common-desktop-environment-for-modern-use.69475/ I am stuck with CDE. CDE loads, dtlogin

Re: Should we boot the FreeBSD kernel in ELF format or in zImage format ? How?

2023-11-25 Thread Mario Marietto
Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 4:41 AM Mario Marietto > wrote: > >> Hello to everyone. >> >> we have just virtualized Debian 12 on our arm (32 bit) Chromebook. As >> host / dom0 we have chosen Devuan 5,and for guest / domU,Debian 12. It >> works great. But our goa

Re: Should we boot the FreeBSD kernel in ELF format or in zImage format ? How?

2023-11-25 Thread Warner Losh
On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 4:41 AM Mario Marietto wrote: > Hello to everyone. > > we have just virtualized Debian 12 on our arm (32 bit) Chromebook. As host > / dom0 we have chosen Devuan 5,and for guest / domU,Debian 12. It works > great. But our goal is different. We want to vir

Fwd: Should we boot the FreeBSD kernel in ELF format or in zImage format ? How?

2023-11-25 Thread Mario Marietto
Hello to everyone. we have just virtualized Debian 12 on our arm (32 bit) Chromebook. As host / dom0 we have chosen Devuan 5,and for guest / domU,Debian 12. It works great. But our goal is different. We want to virtualize FreeBSD as domU. Can we have a working Xen PV network driver for a FreeBSD

FreeBSD user environment repeatedly inferior to kernel (was: uname -KU 1500001 1500000)

2023-11-14 Thread Graham Perrin
3 151 % uname -a FreeBSD mowa219-gjp4-8570p-freebsd 15.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 15.0-CURRENT #3 main-n266317-f5b3e686292b-dirty: Thu Nov 9 12:49:29 GMT 2023 grahamperrin@mowa219-gjp4-8570p-freebsd:/usr/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/sys/GENERIC-NODEBUG amd64 % grep -C 2 completed\ on /var/log/build

Re: Radius challenges in FreeBSD 14.0 Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-06 Thread The Doctor
t; > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > Bapt > > > > > > > > > > freeradius looks like a TLS issue with openssl 3 > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > gnu Radius was

Re: Radius challenges in FreeBSD 14.0 Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-06 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
is failing an so on? > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Bapt > > > > > > > > freeradius looks like a TLS issue with openssl 3 > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > gnu Ra

Re: Radius challenges in FreeBSD 14.0 Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-06 Thread The Doctor
gt; > . > > > > > > gnu Radius was biuld by me and not a port. > > > > > > Trying to recode is a challenge. > > > > > > What is happening is that > > > > > > the so file is not being recognised so > > > I ha

Re: Radius challenges in FreeBSD 14.0 Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-06 Thread The Doctor
On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 09:04:14AM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 12:50:43AM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 08:43:05AM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 05, 2023 at 12:11:06PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > > On Sun, Nov 05, 2023

Re: Radius challenges in FreeBSD 14.0 Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-06 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
; freeradius looks like a TLS issue with openssl 3 > > > > . > > > > gnu Radius was biuld by me and not a port. > > > > Trying to recode is a challenge. > > > > What is happening is that > > > > the so file is not being recognise

Re: Radius challenges in FreeBSD 14.0 Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-06 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 12:50:43AM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 08:43:05AM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 05, 2023 at 12:11:06PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 05, 2023 at 10:32:44AM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at

Radius challenges in FreeBSD 14.0 Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-05 Thread The Doctor
On Mon, Nov 06, 2023 at 08:43:05AM +0100, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 05, 2023 at 12:11:06PM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 05, 2023 at 10:32:44AM -0700, The Doctor wrote: > > > On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 11:42:32PM +, Glen Barber wrote: > > > > The fourth RC build of the

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-05 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
; o 14.0-RC4 aarch64 ROCK64 > > > o 14.0-RC4 aarch64 ROCKPRO64 > > > o 14.0-RC4 riscv64 GENERIC > > > o 14.0-RC4 riscv64 GENERICSD > > > > > > Note regarding arm SD card images: For convenience for those without > > > console access to the

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-05 Thread The Doctor
> o 14.0-RC4 aarch64 RPI > > o 14.0-RC4 aarch64 PINE64 > > o 14.0-RC4 aarch64 PINE64-LTS > > o 14.0-RC4 aarch64 PINEBOOK > > o 14.0-RC4 aarch64 ROCK64 > > o 14.0-RC4 aarch64 ROCKPRO64 > > o 14.0-RC4 riscv64 GENERIC > > o 14.0-RC4 riscv64 GENERICSD >

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-05 Thread The Doctor
> o 14.0-RC4 aarch64 ROCK64 > o 14.0-RC4 aarch64 ROCKPRO64 > o 14.0-RC4 riscv64 GENERIC > o 14.0-RC4 riscv64 GENERICSD > > Note regarding arm SD card images: For convenience for those without > console access to the system, a freebsd user with a password of > freebsd is availab

Re: Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo

2023-11-04 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > You know the entire thread is moot as i think bapt@ has thrown > away the BSD termcap years ago, if i recall correctly (i think > i spoke up by then). > I only answered because of the "great it is gone" thing. Maybe I should have rephrased that as "it's great that we

Re: Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo

2023-11-03 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Hello Thomas Dickey. Thomas Dickey wrote in : |On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 06:58:55PM +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: |> I do understand that a bit. Other than that plain termcap was so |> small and i would assume essentially unchanged for decades, that |> i do not. Termcap entries, yes. I

FreeBSD 14.0-RC4 Now Available

2023-11-03 Thread Glen Barber
GENERICSD Note regarding arm SD card images: For convenience for those without console access to the system, a freebsd user with a password of freebsd is available by default for ssh(1) access. Additionally, the root user password is set to root. It is strongly recommended to change the password

Re: Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo

2023-11-02 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Thu, Nov 02, 2023 at 06:58:55PM +0100, Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > I do understand that a bit. Other than that plain termcap was so > small and i would assume essentially unchanged for decades, that > i do not. Termcap entries, yes. I could imagine vt220, xterm, > screen-256color, and take one

Re: Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo

2023-11-01 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
o do the same job, which is annoying. (FreeBSD doesn't exist in a vacuum) As terminfo exists, is supported, and has terminal entries that our termcap doesn't have, it seems to be better to switch to that. I'm sure it would mean less maintenance for the FreeBSD committers too. If terminfo didn't exis

Re: Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo

2023-11-01 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > If you don't install (terminfo-db which nothing should pull in by default), > then > you are on the default behaviour which is termcap, this has been made like > this > on purpose, by default you have the behaviour you have always expected, and if > you want another

Re: Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo

2023-11-01 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
d to start working, and so I doubted myself, but I must > have messed up somewhere! > > What threw me about tcsh is it does mention terminfo in the man page and > the source, so I wrongly assumed the problem wasn't there. > > Anyway, I'll raise it with the tcsh maintainers. > >

FreeBSD Status Report - Third Quarter 2023

2023-11-01 Thread Lorenzo Salvadore
FreeBSD Status Report Third Quarter 2023 Here is the third 2023 status report, with 32 entries. This is the summer quarter and thus it includes many interesting news from Google Summer of Code. Of course, we also have our usual team reports and many projects share with us their latest news. Much

Re: Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo

2023-10-31 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
, so I wrongly assumed the problem wasn't there. Anyway, I'll raise it with the tcsh maintainers. To the FreeBSD release folk, I think it's great that we're moving off termcap, but is there a chance that base tcsh could be compiled with a private version of the terminfo-less ncurses in time for 14

Re: Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo

2023-10-31 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Tue, Oct 31, 2023 at 10:59:48PM +, Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > > > switch to tcsh, and reinitialise terminal information: > > > > % setenv TERM dumb > > % setenv TERM xterm > > % setenv TERM xterm-256color > > Apologies, it seems this doesn't affect plain

Re: Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo

2023-10-31 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote: > switch to tcsh, and reinitialise terminal information: > > % setenv TERM dumb > % setenv TERM xterm % setenv TERM xterm-256color Apologies, it seems this doesn't affect plain "xterm", but it does at least affect xterm-16color and xterm-256color. Is this,

Freebsd 14+ -- tcsh incompatible with terminfo

2023-10-31 Thread Jamie Landeg-Jones
Hi! The changes to FreeBSD base ncurses to use the terminfo db over termcap if it exists have caused a few issues with tcsh, which doesn't seem to grok terminfo. e.g. : install misc-terminfo switch to tcsh, and reinitialise terminal information: % setenv TERM dumb % setenv TERM xterm % echotc

Re: atrtc0: non-PNP ISA device will be removed from GENERIC in FreeBSD 14

2023-10-28 Thread Zhenlei Huang
> On Oct 29, 2023, at 1:22 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023, 11:04 AM Zhenlei Huang <mailto:z...@freebsd.org>> wrote: > Hi Warner, > > I see this from boot log of 14.0-RC3: > > > FreeBSD 14.0-RC3 #0 releng/14.0-n265368-c6cfd

Re: atrtc0: non-PNP ISA device will be removed from GENERIC in FreeBSD 14

2023-10-28 Thread Warner Losh
On Sat, Oct 28, 2023, 11:04 AM Zhenlei Huang wrote: > Hi Warner, > > I see this from boot log of 14.0-RC3: > > > FreeBSD 14.0-RC3 #0 releng/14.0-n265368-c6cfdc130554: Fri Oct 27 > 05:57:28 UTC 2023 > > ... > > atrtc0: non-PNP ISA device will be removed from G

atrtc0: non-PNP ISA device will be removed from GENERIC in FreeBSD 14

2023-10-28 Thread Zhenlei Huang
Hi Warner, I see this from boot log of 14.0-RC3: > FreeBSD 14.0-RC3 #0 releng/14.0-n265368-c6cfdc130554: Fri Oct 27 05:57:28 UTC > 2023 > ... > atrtc0: non-PNP ISA device will be removed from GENERIC in FreeBSD 14. I guess atrtc(4) is still supported by FreeBSD 14. So this shou

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-RC3 Now Available

2023-10-27 Thread Cameron Katri
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FreeBSD 14.0-RC3 Now Available

2023-10-27 Thread Glen Barber
GENERICSD Note regarding arm SD card images: For convenience for those without console access to the system, a freebsd user with a password of freebsd is available by default for ssh(1) access. Additionally, the root user password is set to root. It is strongly recommended to change the password

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-BETA5 Now Available

2023-10-27 Thread Jesper Schmitz Mouridsen
On 16.10.2023 13.53, Ed Maste wrote: On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 at 13:35, György Pásztor wrote: Hi Glen, The new betas broke the functionality to boot from ventoy. Unfortunately the way Ventoy handles FreeBSD booting is somewhat fragile and this sort of breakage is not surprising. I suspect

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-BETA5 Now Available

2023-10-24 Thread Kyle Evans
On 10/24/23 20:03, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 at 11:06, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: This is a regression of forms... I have been using ventoy to boot FreeBSD since 12 or so and this is the first I have heard of a failure to boot FreeBSD with Ventoy, so my ask is, what changed

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-BETA5 Now Available

2023-10-24 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 at 11:06, Rodney W. Grimes > wrote: > > > > This is a regression of forms... I have been using ventoy to boot FreeBSD > > since 12 or so and this is the first I have heard of a failure to boot > > FreeBSD with Ventoy, so my ask is, what

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-BETA5 Now Available

2023-10-23 Thread monochrome
ventoy has only been working with freebsd since 12 or so, it was not working before since I started using ventoy. Also ventoy won't boot the new devuan release, for example. ventoy has to jump through hoops to get some things to boot, so give it some time I guess. On 10/23/23 11:06, Rodney W

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-BETA5 Now Available

2023-10-23 Thread Ed Maste
On Mon, 23 Oct 2023 at 11:06, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > This is a regression of forms... I have been using ventoy to boot FreeBSD > since 12 or so and this is the first I have heard of a failure to boot > FreeBSD with Ventoy, so my ask is, what changed in FreeBSD that broke

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-BETA5 Now Available

2023-10-23 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
> On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 at 13:46, Gy?rgy P?sztor > wrote: > > > >> I am interested in looking for a way to make Ventoy support more > >> reliable, but that will not happen for 14.0. > > > > Is it depending on Ventoy? > > Yes, Ventoy needs to be u

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-BETA5 Now Available

2023-10-23 Thread Ed Maste
On Mon, 16 Oct 2023 at 13:46, György Pásztor wrote: > >> I am interested in looking for a way to make Ventoy support more >> reliable, but that will not happen for 14.0. > > Is it depending on Ventoy? Yes, Ventoy needs to be updated for newer FreeBSD releases. For

FreeBSD 14.0-RC2 Now Available

2023-10-20 Thread Glen Barber
GENERICSD Note regarding arm SD card images: For convenience for those without console access to the system, a freebsd user with a password of freebsd is available by default for ssh(1) access. Additionally, the root user password is set to root. It is strongly recommended to change the password

Re: freebsd-update 12.3 to 14.0RC1 takes 12-24 hours (block cloning regression)

2023-10-18 Thread Piotr P. Stefaniak
On 2023-10-17 09:40:37, Kevin Bowling wrote: The flash SLOG system took around 12 hours to complete freebsd-update from 13.2 to 14.0-RC1. The system without the SLOG took nearly 24 hours. This was the result of ~50k patches, and ~10k files from freebsd-update and a very pathological 'install

RE: freebsd-update 12.3 to 14.0RC1 takes 12-24 hours (block cloning regression)

2023-10-17 Thread Mark Millard
Kevin Bowling wrote on Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 16:40:37 UTC : > I have two systems with a zpool 2x2 mirror on 7.2k RPM disks. One > system also has a flash SLOG. > > The flash SLOG system took around 12 hours to complete freebsd-update > from 13.2 to 14.0-RC1. The system withou

freebsd-update 12.3 to 14.0RC1 takes 12-24 hours (block cloning regression)

2023-10-17 Thread Kevin Bowling
Hi, I have two systems with a zpool 2x2 mirror on 7.2k RPM disks. One system also has a flash SLOG. The flash SLOG system took around 12 hours to complete freebsd-update from 13.2 to 14.0-RC1. The system without the SLOG took nearly 24 hours. This was the result of ~50k patches, and ~10k

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-BETA5 Now Available

2023-10-16 Thread Cameron Katri
On 10/16/23 9:54 AM, Ed Maste wrote: On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 00:11, Cameron Katri wrote: The FreeBSD-14.0-BETA5-arm64-aarch64-zfs.raw.xz (maybe others, I didn't check) has a rc.conf with a ton of repeated lines. I tried looking at why this would be, but the release scripts to create this image

Re: FreeBSD 14.0-BETA5 Now Available

2023-10-16 Thread Ed Maste
On Thu, 12 Oct 2023 at 00:11, Cameron Katri wrote: > > The FreeBSD-14.0-BETA5-arm64-aarch64-zfs.raw.xz (maybe others, I didn't > check) has a rc.conf with a ton of repeated lines. I tried looking at > why this would be, but the release scripts to create this image went > rig

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