Re: newcons comming

2014-02-14 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 09:09:43PM -0500, Ed Maste wrote: You should be able to manually load the kms modules to switch to native resolution, without starting X. Indeed, kldload'ing radeonmks.so switched LCD to its native resolution. What if I am on CRT (which has many native resolutions). Is

Re: newcons comming

2014-02-12 Thread Денис Емельянов
On 11 Feb 2014 23:49, John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org wrote: - Occasionally if I move the mouse around constantly on the console I can get the mouse cursor to leave an artifact. If I move the mouse cursor back over the artifact it gets cleaned up, but only the pixels the mouse cursor

Re: newcons comming

2014-02-11 Thread Jean-Sébastien Pédron
On 10.02.2014 22:07, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: Also, even at native resolution, switching consoles takes LCD considerable time to redraw screen contents. Looks like it's not accelerated at all... I used the following (hackish) patch which fixed the slow redraw problem for me, but I don't know if

Re: newcons comming

2014-02-11 Thread Lev Serebryakov
Hello, Ed. You wrote 11 февраля 2014 г., 6:09:43: One (two?) more datapoints: I'm trying -CURRENT + vt(9) + vt_vga(9) on old Sony Vaio which has i915 AND NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400 (selectable before boot with hardware switch), so I have two-for-price-of=one experience. (1) When I select

Re: newcons comming

2014-02-11 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
Hi Adrian! On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:18 -0800 Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: [snip] My experiences with newcons/drm2: * suspend/resume occasionally throws up a panic in the softclock code, with some vaguely invalid looking newcons timer entry. THis happens after it comes out of

Re: newcons comming

2014-02-11 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Tue, 11 Feb 2014 10:51:26 +0100 Jean-Sébastien Pédron dumbb...@freebsd.org wrote: On 10.02.2014 22:07, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: Also, even at native resolution, switching consoles takes LCD considerable time to redraw screen contents. Looks like it's not accelerated at all... I used

Re: newcons comming

2014-02-11 Thread John Baldwin
I've been using newcons for quite a while on my laptop (X220) and it generally works well. A few comments: - When I kldload i915kms on the console, ttyv0 always scrolls down so that the previous screen contents are just off the top of the screen. Other vt's do not do this. (For example,

Re: newcons comming

2014-02-11 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 8:50:43 am Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: Hi Adrian! On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 13:24:18 -0800 Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: [snip] My experiences with newcons/drm2: * suspend/resume occasionally throws up a panic in the softclock code, with some

Re: newcons comming

2014-02-10 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 11:16:53PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: Are you booting directly to X or using startx from the console? In either case, I think that i915kms should auto-load at the start of X, so you should not need to pre-load it. Just switched to newcons on fresh -CURRENT, seem to

Re: newcons comming

2014-02-10 Thread Adrian Chadd
[snip] My experiences with newcons/drm2: * suspend/resume occasionally throws up a panic in the softclock code, with some vaguely invalid looking newcons timer entry. THis happens after it comes out of suspend, after af ew seconds. It sucks and makes things rather unusable. * Occasionally a

Re: newcons comming

2014-02-10 Thread Ed Maste
On 10 February 2014 16:07, Alexey Dokuchaev da...@freebsd.org wrote: 1. Before going X, switching consoles took considerable time (about or more than one second). Every time my monitor briefly displayed mode information pane like it does when new mode is being switched. It does not happen

Re : newcons comming

2013-11-09 Thread dt71
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:45:32 +0200 dt71 at gmx.com wrote: Suppose that Newcons gets in quickly. I use a Radeon 9600 card. Will I see something useful on my screen (with KMS and the new Xorg and things like that), or will my screen be black? Yup, you will get normal virtual terminal, but a

Re: newcons comming

2013-11-04 Thread Ed Maste
On 4 November 2013 02:16, Kevin Oberman rkober...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent news. I'm really looking forward to newcons. Guess it's time to move my T520 to 10-Stable (or Beta) I'm running a Newcons kernel on my Thinkpad X220 now and it's working well, with a few minor quirks. This is with the

Re: newcons comming

2013-11-04 Thread Doug Ambrisko
On Sun, Nov 03, 2013 at 11:16:53PM -0800, Kevin Oberman wrote: |On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Doug Ambrisko ambri...@ambrisko.com |wrote: | | On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:18:47PM +0300, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: | | Hello fellow hackers! | | | | I finally reach the

Re: newcons comming

2013-11-04 Thread Doug Ambrisko
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 10:30:39AM -0500, Ed Maste wrote: | On 4 November 2013 02:16, Kevin Oberman rkober...@gmail.com wrote: | Excellent news. I'm really looking forward to newcons. Guess it's time to | move my T520 to 10-Stable (or Beta) | | I'm running a Newcons kernel on my Thinkpad X220

Re: newcons comming

2013-11-03 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Doug Ambrisko ambri...@ambrisko.comwrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:18:47PM +0300, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: | Hello fellow hackers! | | I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of | syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-31 Thread Doug Ambrisko
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:18:47PM +0300, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: | Hello fellow hackers! | | I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of | syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and have a lot of | style(9) problems. But we really have to get it into HEAD and

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-28 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 00:49:10 +0800 Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.org wrote: On 10/25/13 9:29 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Erm, I don't think this is really ready for -HEAD yet? certainly not ready for 10.. but that doesn't mean it can not be in 10.1 the existing console will still be there as

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-28 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 15:37:25 -0400 Sean Bruno sean_br...@yahoo.com wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 22:32 +0300, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:45:32 +0200 d...@gmx.com wrote: Suppose that Newcons gets in quickly. I use a Radeon 9600 card. Will I see something useful on

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-28 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 11:09:45AM +0200, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 15:37:25 -0400 Sean Bruno sean_br...@yahoo.com wrote: On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 22:32 +0300, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:45:32 +0200 d...@gmx.com wrote: Suppose that Newcons

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-27 Thread Marius Strobl
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 03:18:47PM +0300, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: Hello fellow hackers! I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and have a lot of style(9) problems. But we really have to get it into HEAD and 10.0 to

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-26 Thread dt71
Suppose that Newcons gets in quickly. I use a Radeon 9600 card. Will I see something useful on my screen (with KMS and the new Xorg and things like that), or will my screen be black? ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-26 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 25.10.2013 14:18, schrieb Aleksandr Rybalko: Hello fellow hackers! I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and have a lot of style(9) problems. But we really have to get it into HEAD and 10.0 to enable shiny new

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-26 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:45:32 +0200 d...@gmx.com wrote: Suppose that Newcons gets in quickly. I use a Radeon 9600 card. Will I see something useful on my screen (with KMS and the new Xorg and things like that), or will my screen be black? Yup, you will get normal virtual terminal, but a bit

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-26 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 20:52:27 +0400 Andrey Fesenko f0and...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Aleksandr Rybalko r...@ddteam.net wrote: Hello fellow hackers! I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-26 Thread Sean Bruno
On Sat, 2013-10-26 at 22:32 +0300, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Sat, 26 Oct 2013 10:45:32 +0200 d...@gmx.com wrote: Suppose that Newcons gets in quickly. I use a Radeon 9600 card. Will I see something useful on my screen (with KMS and the new Xorg and things like that), or will my screen

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-26 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 18:46:02 +0300 Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 04:04:10PM +0300, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:18:47 +0300 Aleksandr Rybalko r...@ddteam.net wrote: Hello fellow hackers! I finally reach the point when I

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-26 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 11:55:26 -0700 Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: I think the best thing to do is address kib's issues and whatever else pops up in the review, then add it into -HEAD as the non-default console type. What I'd hate to see is some build time dependency where xorg

newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
Hello fellow hackers! I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and have a lot of style(9) problems. But we really have to get it into HEAD and 10.0 to enable shiny new Xorg features, drivers, etc. So I ask everyone to look

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:18:47 +0300 Aleksandr Rybalko r...@ddteam.net wrote: Hello fellow hackers! I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and have a lot of style(9) problems. But we really have to get it into HEAD

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Adrian Chadd
Erm, I don't think this is really ready for -HEAD yet? -adrian On 25 October 2013 06:04, Aleksandr Rybalko r...@freebsd.org wrote: On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:18:47 +0300 Aleksandr Rybalko r...@ddteam.net wrote: Hello fellow hackers! I finally reach the point when I can work with

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 06:29:37 -0700 Adrian Chadd adr...@freebsd.org wrote: Erm, I don't think this is really ready for -HEAD yet? Lets do it really ready :))) I'am free on that, I can merge or not merge it to 10.0. But x11 team depend on newcons presence, otherwise no new Xorg, no KMS

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Adrian Chadd
3) Realise it's not yet ready for 10.0 or HEAD, and target it to be ready for MFC for a 10.1 release. 4) Delay 10.0 until this has matured enough in HEAD, then release it. I really want to see more updated xorg support but the timing of it all feels a little overly rushed for a 10.0 release

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Artyom Mirgorodskiy
I think we should provide option - use beta-newcons or old. Linux in top is not because it's better, but because it has solution. Not even finished but at least some solutions. On Friday 25 October 2013 06:43:54 Adrian Chadd wrote: 3) Realise it's not yet ready for 10.0 or HEAD, and target it

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread symbolics
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 06:43:54AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: 3) Realise it's not yet ready for 10.0 or HEAD, and target it to be ready for MFC for a 10.1 release. 4) Delay 10.0 until this has matured enough in HEAD, then release it. I really want to see more updated xorg support but the

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:10:44 +0100 symbol...@gmx.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 06:43:54AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: 3) Realise it's not yet ready for 10.0 or HEAD, and target it to be ready for MFC for a 10.1 release. 4) Delay 10.0 until this has matured enough in HEAD, then release

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:18:15 +0300 Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:10:44 +0100 symbol...@gmx.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 06:43:54AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: 3) Realise it's not yet ready for 10.0 or HEAD, and target it to be ready for MFC for a 10.1 release. 4) Delay

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Aleksandr Rybalko
On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 16:27:49 +0200 Tijl Coosemans t...@coosemans.org wrote: On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:18:15 +0300 Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:10:44 +0100 symbol...@gmx.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 06:43:54AM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: 3) Realise it's not yet ready

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Konstantin Belousov
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 04:04:10PM +0300, Aleksandr Rybalko wrote: On Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:18:47 +0300 Aleksandr Rybalko r...@ddteam.net wrote: Hello fellow hackers! I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/25/13 9:29 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Erm, I don't think this is really ready for -HEAD yet? certainly not ready for 10.. but that doesn't mean it can not be in 10.1 the existing console will still be there as default, and if this truely is a big step forward, people will start using it in

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Andrey Fesenko
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Aleksandr Rybalko r...@ddteam.net wrote: Hello fellow hackers! I finally reach the point when I can work with newcons instead of syscons on my laptop. Yes, I know it still buggy and have a lot of ... Yes, it's build and work # uname -a FreeBSD x220.local

Re: newcons comming

2013-10-25 Thread Adrian Chadd
I think the best thing to do is address kib's issues and whatever else pops up in the review, then add it into -HEAD as the non-default console type. What I'd hate to see is some build time dependency where xorg _requires_ you to run newcons in order to run X. Well, at least just right now. I