Re: Errors from the ata disk driver

1999-12-13 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Andrew Gallatin wrote: These are UDMA CRC errors, if you upgrade to the latest current, ata knows to retry these, only if they persist, something is wrong. However it could indicate cable problems, ie bad connectors or maybe too long cables.. He said the disk was

Re: Errors from the ata disk driver

1999-12-13 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Will the backdown to PIO mode be permanent till the next reboot of the machine, or will the driver be able to attempt to return to DMA mode after a timeout period. I'm only seeing these errors under really heavy disk activity (mutlitple nfs readers and

Re: ATA weird message?

1999-12-13 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Mike Smith wrote: It seems Munehiro Matsuda wrote: Hi all, I am using -current as of December 9 (CTM:src-cur.4130.gz), and got following weird ATA related messages while 'make -j4 buildworld'. I never had this kind of message when using wd drivers. ata0-master:

Re: rtc0

1999-12-13 Thread Mike Smith
statclock_disable is set to 1 if you have the 0x20 flag set on your APM device. This should probably no longer be the default. Oops, try this patch instead, again, it's done wrong, but I couldn't figure out why statclock_disable was getting a value, and I don't have time to figure it out.

netstat to show listen queues

1999-12-13 Thread Guido van Rooij
I'd like to have a review on the following patch: http://www.freebsd.org/~guido/netstat.diff It adds support to netstat to show listen queue lengths. Manual page diffs are in the working. -Guido To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of

Re: make world broken building fortunes

1999-12-13 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Peter Jeremy wrote: === games/fortune/datfiles PATH=$PATH:/usr/games:/usr/obj/3.0/cvs/src/games/fortune/datfiles/../strfile strfile -Crs /3.0/cvs/src/games/fortune/datfiles/fortunes fortunes.dat strfile: illegal option -- C strfile [-iorsx] [-c char] sourcefile [datafile] *** Error code 1

Re: make world broken building fortunes

1999-12-13 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:42:36 +0100, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: I think the easiest solution would be (instead of your patches of course): -STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin +STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/games Only if you preceded the

HEADS UP ata driver update!

1999-12-13 Thread Soren Schmidt
I've just committed a bunch of fixes and enhancements to the ATA driver, so before submitting new bug reports, PLEASE upgrade to the newest sources, thanks! -Søren To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

RELEASE timelines

1999-12-13 Thread Matthew Thyer
What is the big rush to 4.0-RELEASE ? With all the new functionality and recent changes there are some things that need to be bedded in (I'm thinking newpcm and ATA). Maybe I'm saying this because my SB16 PnP has only just been fixed and my CD-ROM drive doesn't work under the ATA driver (I'm

Re: RELEASE timelines

1999-12-13 Thread Donn Miller
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: Tell a computer to WIN and ... ... You lose Actually, I always thought there was something subliminal about typing "WIN". Funny how they didn't choose "WIND". It's like, you're typing "WIN", so you in

Re: What happened to netstat?

1999-12-13 Thread Yoshinobu Inoue
On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 10:37:01AM -0500, Donald J . Maddox wrote: After rebuilding World and kernel last night, I find that the behavior of 'netstat -a' has changed... Only UNIX domain sockets are shown in the Errr... may I complain ? I got the same problem :( current last night.

FW: RE: RELEASE timelines

1999-12-13 Thread will andrews
On 13-Dec-99 Matthew Thyer wrote: Consider the 2.2 stream that went through many more releases (counting 2.2.1 - 2.2.8). Using that yardstick you'd expect 4.0 to stay in development until 3.7 is released. I know 7 releases of the 2.2 stream was considerred a few too many but surely we can

boot failed with options ata0 etc. at kernel...

1999-12-13 Thread Sergey Osokin
Hello! I rebuild all ad* devices at /dev with new MAKEDEV from /usr/src/etc at my -current, but still have following problem... ... ata-pci0: Intel PIIX4 ATA controller at device 7.1 on pci0 ata-pci0: Busmastering DMA supported ata0 at 0x01f0 irq 14 on ata-pci0 ata1 at 0x0170 irq 15 on

Re: make world broken building fortunes

1999-12-13 Thread Rodney W. Grimes
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:42:36 +0100, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: I think the easiest solution would be (instead of your patches of course): -STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin +STRICTTMPPATH= ${WORLDTMP}/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/bin:${WORLDTMP}/usr/games Only if you

Re: ppp over pty: trying to detect CD

1999-12-13 Thread Brian Somers
Ah, I see the problem. I have a fix - I'm about to apply it to -current and ask jkh for permission to MFC. I've attached the -stable patch for your viewing enjoyment "JH" == Jon Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JH Running -current from this afternoon, I am having a strange

Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes)

1999-12-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: I wonder if we should move fortune to usr.bin? It's hardly a game and I'm way beyond tired of it being left out of standard paths... (ie: "/bin:/usr/bin[:/usr/local/bin]") I have no opinion about fortune, but I do think that md5 should be moved from

Re: netstat to show listen queues

1999-12-13 Thread Clive Lin
Hi, it looks GREAT ! X clive@cartier ~ netstat -a -f inet -L Current listen queue sizes (qlen/incqlen/maxqlen) Listen Local Address 0/0/5 *.1029 0/0/5 *.1028 0/0/5 *.1027 0/0/5 *.1026

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
"Mike" == Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike The "right" solution is and has always been to name your Mike disks and mount them by name. Once devfs is a reality, Mike we'll be able to do just this. Until then, the problem's Mike not really as bad as you make it out to

Re: Errors from the ata disk driver

1999-12-13 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Soren Schmidt writes: It seems Andrew Gallatin wrote: These are UDMA CRC errors, if you upgrade to the latest current, ata knows to retry these, only if they persist, something is wrong. However it could indicate cable problems, ie bad connectors or maybe too long cables..

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Anthony Kimball
What I didn't like about CAM was that I lost my tape drive. Since I had all my backups and archives on DAT, it felt like a bad thing. Which reminds me -- can anyone spare a 2.1 CD? Please send me private mail, if so: I foolishly neglected to convert to CD, and now I can't find 2.1 on the web

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
On Mon, Dec 13, 1999 at 15:45:15 -0600, Anthony Kimball wrote: What I didn't like about CAM was that I lost my tape drive. Since I had all my backups and archives on DAT, it felt like a bad thing. What do you mean you "lost" your tape drive? CAM has included a tape driver almost from day

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 8:52:28 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Warner Losh writes: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Poul-Henning Kamp writes: : You overlook one simple thing here: If we want the ata driver tested, : we need to make existing kernel configs

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 19:01:49 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Williams writes: In a few days time the wd driver will be retired from FreeBSDs i386 architecture. Given that the ATA driver just went active a few minutes ago, I think a period of

Wiring drive IDs (was: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!)

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
p On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 18:28:42 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: Dieter Rothacker wrote: On Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:21:25 +0800 (WST), Michael Kennett wrote: Note that wd1 is not present. This caused a mild hickup when rebooting the new kernel, since the new ata controller assigned the

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 19:19:43 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Williams writes: And your point is? I'm a user, not a developer. If I wanted to be a developer, I'd have written my own device driver. I want to *USE* FreeBSD, not develop it. Then

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 15:03:19 +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: On Friday, 10th December 1999, Mike Smith wrote: The same mentality that made the CAM cutover a "debacle" is making the ata cutover a "debacle". This "mentality" might be an unavoidable part of human nature. I found my

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 12:39:15 +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: But that shouldn't stop us from moving forward with the ata driver. I think that a small slowing of the pace, and a bit more understanding toward those with unusual hardware will help. And I support PHK's hard line

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 2:09:48 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Williams writes: In a few days time the wd driver will be retired from FreeBSDs i386 architecture. Given that the ATA driver just went active a few minutes ago, I

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 0:55:15 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kris Ken naway writes: No-one (as far as I can see) is objecting to making ata the default (which it already is), and to kill wd in some number of weeks. Why can't you just do that, and

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 17:54:14 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: If half as much energy was spent adding the missing bits of functionality to the new systems as people have been spending complaining it then we'd be there ages ago. Not true. It doesn't take a disk expert to complain about a

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 17:11:53 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Lehey writes: We're getting off track again: the real issue is that you shouldn't completely replace old drivers with new, better written, less buggy drivers which have significantly

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 23:32:27 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: [missing attribution to Greg Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Except that ATA currently does not work on my system. So I assume I'm not the only one. Actually, to quote from your original message: According to technical product

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 19:04:33 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nate Williams writes: What we need here is a commitment to these new initiatives, not a lot of fence-sitting and clutching our knitting to our chests. If all our users were developers I

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 11 December 1999 at 0:02:47 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote: -On [19991209 16:03], Greg Lehey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 20:23:24 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: This is -CURRENT. It pains me to say it, but anyone trying to

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 22:44:36 +0100, Soren Schmidt wrote: It seems Nate Williams wrote: If half as much energy was spent adding the missing bits of functionality to the new systems as people have been spending complaining it then we'd be there ages ago. Not true. It doesn't take

Re: vinum start needs block device

1999-12-13 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Sun, 12 Dec 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: -if (drive-vp-v_type != VBLK) { /* only consider bl ock devices */ +if (!vn_isdisk(drive-vp)) { /* only consider bl Note: this fixes some recent problems (Hi Greg!) that I've been having.

Re: ATA weird message?

1999-12-13 Thread Munehiro Matsuda
From: Soren Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:33:43 +0100 (CET) ::It seems Munehiro Matsuda wrote: :: Hi all, :: :: I am using -current as of December 9 (CTM:src-cur.4130.gz), and :: got following weird ATA related messages while 'make -j4 buildworld'. :: I never had this kind

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Peter Wemm
Greg Lehey wrote: On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 23:32:27 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: [missing attribution to Greg Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Except that ATA currently does not work on my system. So I assume I'm not the only one. Actually, to quote from your original message:

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 1999-Dec-12 05:54:12 +1100, Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 19:01:49 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: The ata driver has been available for you and other to test for a long time. Oh. Somehow I missed this. Sure, I saw commits, but I can't recall a "HEADS

Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet?

1999-12-13 Thread N
Hi, Garrett Wollman wrote on 11 May 1999: [Netgear GigE PCI interface] I'm buying one of these cards today ($319.99 from NECX) and will stick it into a machine here on our new Gigabit backbone. I'm particularly interested to test out the VLAN support, since my Secret Plan is to have this

Re: Errors from the ata disk driver

1999-12-13 Thread Andrew Gallatin
Andrew Gallatin writes: Soren Schmidt writes: I've fixed it here (I hope), and it will be in the next batch of fixes. I hope to get through my mailbox today :) Thanks. I'm running a kernel built with them now. If/when we see CRC errors, I'll let you know what happens. We

4.0-CURRENT boot kernel, ATA_16BIT_ONLY , etc.

1999-12-13 Thread Valentin S. Chopov
Hi, The latest 4.0-CURRENT boot floppies are not working on old ISA boards with 16-bit data transfer only, and the installation of FreeBSD becomes impossible:( . It seems that in this case ATA_16BIT_ONLY is not enough - may be flags to ata0 controller or auto-detection as Soren promised will be

2.1 (was: wd driver will be retired)

1999-12-13 Thread Oliver Fromme
Anthony Kimball wrote in list.freebsd-current: What I didn't like about CAM was that I lost my tape drive. Since I had all my backups and archives on DAT, it felt like a bad thing. I don't think that's related to CAM. At least my crappy HP 1533A drive (DDS2) still works with CAM. Which

Re: ppp over pty: trying to detect CD

1999-12-13 Thread Brian Somers
This is now fixed in -stable (and -current). "JH" == Jon Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JH Running -current from this afternoon, I am having a strange JH symptom with ppp over a pty; ppp does not detect that the pty JH does not support carrier, and will cycle once

Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes)

1999-12-13 Thread Doug White
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: I wonder if we should move fortune to usr.bin? It's hardly a game and I'm way beyond tired of it being left out of standard paths... (ie: "/bin:/usr/bin[:/usr/local/bin]") I have no opinion about

Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes )

1999-12-13 Thread Louis A. Mamakos
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: I wonder if we should move fortune to usr.bin? It's hardly a game and I'm way beyond tired of it being left out of standard paths... (ie: "/bin:/usr/bin[:/usr/local/bin]") I have no opinion

Re: Speaking of moving files (Re: make world broken building fortunes )

1999-12-13 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Mon, 13 Dec 1999, Louis A. Mamakos wrote: So how about /usr/sbin/chown - /sbin/chown so that MAKEDEV works with just the root file system mounted? As one who just got his ass bitten by this, I would vote yes. -- - bill fumerola - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - BF1560 - computer horizons corp - -

sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-13 Thread Eric Jones
Folks, In looking through the sysinstall source, I noticed that the man page states that "This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventually be replaced." Is there any truth to this? Apparently this verbiage was introduced in rev 1.20 because the previous text

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Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Greg Childers
At 07:40 AM 12/14/99 +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: Greg Lehey wrote: On Friday, 10 December 1999 at 23:32:27 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: [missing attribution to Greg Childers [EMAIL PROTECTED]] Except that ATA currently does not work on my system. So I assume I'm not the only one.

Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired!

1999-12-13 Thread Amancio Hasty
3. Get pissed off with FreeBSD and go elsewhere. don't worry I am sure that quite a few user have left already. This kind of situation reminds of when I accidently broke the gus max backwards compatibility. An old friend of mine sent me a quiet note stating that he switch OSes cause he

Re: Among the ATA casualties...

1999-12-13 Thread Adam Wight
On Sun, Dec 12, 1999 at 11:08:24PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: You'll need to take this up with Soren; I suspect though that the simplest answer for you is going to be to stick with 'wd' until you get yourself a less-broken disk, or manage to analyse the problem in greater depth. Ideally I

Re: sysinstall: is it really at the end of its lifecycle?

1999-12-13 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
that "This product is currently at the end of its life cycle and will eventually be replaced." The handy thing about "eventually" is that it can be a long time. :) Amusingly, the man page author (Jordan?) says, "This utility is a prototype which lasted approximately 3 years past its

QIC 40/80 floppy tape drive controller

1999-12-13 Thread Richard Furda
Hello, I have a QIC 40/80 clone floppy tape drive controller (running 3.3-stable) and wondering if anyone is working/thinking about porting the ft driver to 3.X/4.X branch. I understand the driver was "removed" in 2.2.8 due to incompatibility issues. I'd like to help out, thus give

Re: QIC 40/80 floppy tape drive controller

1999-12-13 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard Furda writes: : I have a QIC 40/80 clone floppy tape drive controller (running : 3.3-stable) and wondering if anyone is working/thinking about porting the : ft driver to 3.X/4.X branch. I understand the driver was "removed" : in 2.2.8 due to incompatibility