Re: Strange dma_init error on current with awe64 and floppy

2000-11-08 Thread Frank Nobis

On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 03:11:46AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm sure I must have overseen something trivial, but currently I can't
  figure out what it is.
 
 The lower 16 MB memory has been used for
 
   kernel text, data, bss
   arrays allocated by vm_page_startup()
   memory allocated via malloc() with M_ZERO

I don't think that is the problem. I tried an older PRENGSMP kernel
nearly the same config like the actual one. Same means a bit larger,
more devices.

Know I build a GENERIC kernel striped down to the devices I thibk I
need in kernel. Other devices like the bktr and the pcm are loaded as
module.

The config file is here http://www.radio-do.de/~fn/G5SMP
The dmesg is http://www.radio-do.de/~fn/dmesg.txt

Here the out from top right after boot into single user mode and after
going multi user.

In sum the used mem is 11460K. There should be space for the dma
buffer needed for sound card and fdc.

Is there other memory in use that top doesn't show ? Because the
physical memory is 512M.

last pid:41;  load averages:  0.05,  0.03,  0.01  up 0+00:02:0909:31:41
2 processes:   1 running, 1 sleeping

Mem: 704K Active, 1776K Inact, 7716K Wired, 1264K Buf, 490M Free
Swap: 


  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPUCPU COMMAND
   41 root  46   0  1900K  1076K CPU1   0   0:00  0.00%  0.00% top
6 root  10   0   716K   368K wait   0   0:00  0.00%  0.00% sh

last pid:   425;  load averages:  0.48,  0.12,  0.04  up 0+00:02:3509:32:07
66 processes:  5 running, 44 sleeping, 17 waiting

Mem: 43M Active, 9580K Inact, 14M Wired, 80K Cache, 12M Buf, 434M Free
Swap: 550M Total, 550M Free


  PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZERES STATE  C   TIME   WCPUCPU COMMAND
   10 root -22   0 0K 0K RUN1   1:35 49.81% 49.71% idle: cpu1
   11 root -22   0 0K 0K RUN0   1:35 49.37% 49.27% idle: cpu0
  337 nobody84  16 14636K 13824K CPU1   0   0:13 90.23% 45.46% setiathome
  334 nobody83  16 15148K 14336K RUN0   0:13 89.94% 45.31% setiathome
  358 root  10   0  1128K  1012K wait   0   0:00  2.86%  1.37% bash
  210 root   2   0  2116K  1392K select 1   0:00  0.41%  0.24% sshd
  425 root  49   0  1944K  1152K CPU0   0   0:00  0.00%  0.00% top

some ideas how to track this further ?

Regards,
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cvs problems

2000-11-08 Thread urded

I updated my sources using cvsup, and i am unable to make the world : the message i 
get is :

=== doc
/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/doc created for 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/doc
make: don't know how to make bool-array.cc. Stop
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.

So, what should i do ?

In advance, thaks a lot


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licq after crt* change

2000-11-08 Thread Dmitry Valdov

Hi!

licq doesn't work since crt* change.. (coredumps) Any workaround?
(recompile if licq  qt doesn't help).
/usr/ports/net/licq

Dmitry.



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Re: umount -f busted

2000-11-08 Thread Johan Karlsson

At Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:54:50 MST, Warner Losh wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alfred Perlstein writes:
 : Yes, this used to work quite well for some time, I have no idea
 : who broke it.  Maybe you can sprinkle some printfs in the code and
 : narrow it down a bit?
 
 I'll give it a shot.  I'm glad to see it is a "should work but is
 busted" rather than a "depreicated functionality, cope." situtation.

This seems to be an realy old problem, see PR 765
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=765

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Re: Problem with dlopen()/dlsym() after recent crt* changes

2000-11-08 Thread Brian F. Feldman

John Polstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander N. Kabaev
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Why FreeBSD does not link libgcc into shared libraries by
  default? Everyone else is doing that. Linking shared libraries
  with libgcc seems to be the ultimate work-around. Are there any
  compatibility problems which are keeping FreeBSD from doing that?
 
 None that I'm aware of.  I agree we should do it.  I'll talk to
 David O'Brien and find out whether he has any objections.

Do it, do it!  The jdk 1.2.2 (FreeBSD) port broke in the predictable way (no 
exception-handling functions) until I had the libraries linked with 
-lgcc_pic.

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Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf

2000-11-08 Thread Mikel

I've had been considering running xinted for some time now, and thanks to
Forest's suggestions I've been able to successfully get it up and running
smoothly. I am personnaly left wondering why not just replact inetd altogether
with this version? It certainly enhances security a bit.

Well these are just thoughts from the peanut gallery.

Cheers,
Mikel

Forrest Aldrich wrote:

 At 09:30 AM 11/7/2000 +, Konstantin Chuguev wrote:

 If xinetd has a startup script, why don't you just set inetd_enable="NO"
 and let
 the /usr/local/etc/rc.d/xinetd.sh start normally? You need to edit no
 /etc/rc.*
 files (except for rc.conf.local, obviously).
 [ .. ]

 Sure that would work, but for the type of service it is, this seems rather
 ambiguous.  I would rather see this service handled in the rc.* scripts,
 where other similar services are handled.

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Re: umount -f busted

2000-11-08 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Johan Karlsson writes:
: At Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:54:50 MST, Warner Losh wrote:
:  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alfred Perlstein writes:
:  : Yes, this used to work quite well for some time, I have no idea
:  : who broke it.  Maybe you can sprinkle some printfs in the code and
:  : narrow it down a bit?
:  
:  I'll give it a shot.  I'm glad to see it is a "should work but is
:  busted" rather than a "depreicated functionality, cope." situtation.
: 
: This seems to be an realy old problem, see PR 765
: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=765

It is a problem that I could have sworn worked before SMPNG.

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Justin T. Gibbs

The IRQ allocation needs the RF_SHAREABLE flag or it will blow up in
the case where the IRQ is shared with another device.

So the EISA attachment doesn't set RF_SHAREABLE if the system is
using a level sensitive interrupt?

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Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf

2000-11-08 Thread Sheldon Hearn



On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:30:02 EST, Mikel wrote:

 I am personnaly left wondering why not just replact inetd altogether
 with this version? It certainly enhances security a bit.
 
 Well these are just thoughts from the peanut gallery.

Too many of those and a mailing list becomes unreadable. :-)

However, as a show of good faith, I'll say that your question has been
asked _many_ times before and it should not be hard for you to find the
answer in the archives.

Ciao,
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Re: umount -f busted

2000-11-08 Thread Bill Fumerola

On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 07:43:24AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote:
 It is a problem that I could have sworn worked before SMPNG.

Negative, this occurs on releng_4 machines for me as well.
It also was occuring on my -current workstation that was about 110 days 
old before a disk went out, so it was definatly pre-smpng.


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Re: umount -f busted

2000-11-08 Thread Michael C . Wu

On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 07:43:24AM -0700, Warner Losh scribbled:
| In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Johan Karlsson writes:
| : At Tue, 07 Nov 2000 14:54:50 MST, Warner Losh wrote:
| :  In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alfred Perlstein writes:
| :  : Yes, this used to work quite well for some time, I have no idea
| :  : who broke it.  Maybe you can sprinkle some printfs in the code and
| :  : narrow it down a bit?
| :  I'll give it a shot.  I'm glad to see it is a "should work but is
| :  busted" rather than a "depreicated functionality, cope." situtation.
| : This seems to be an realy old problem, see PR 765
| : http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=765

| It is a problem that I could have sworn worked before SMPNG.

I distinctly remember trying to do the exact same thing and
not being able to in 4.0-current vs. 3-stable.  (Because it
eventually panic'ed the nfs client and cost me a night of work.)

Was this a "works sometimes" thing?
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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
 So the EISA attachment doesn't set RF_SHAREABLE if the system is using
 a level sensitive interrupt?

The current EISA code isn't as smart as it should be.

I've got uncommitted code that ties it to the ELCR.

Bus front end code shouldn't have to know about level/edge triggered IRQs.

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Justin T. Gibbs

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
 So the EISA attachment doesn't set RF_SHAREABLE if the system is using
 a level sensitive interrupt?

The current EISA code isn't as smart as it should be.

Speaking of that, I'd like to see the EISA code move to be
more like PCI.  We should see if there is something at slot
0 and only then attempt to probe for sub-devices on the bus.
The only reason this isn't done is because I, due to the
fledgling nature of the EISA code and the ahc VL card's
almost looking like EISA cards, did the wrong thing here.
We also need to be verifying that io ranges required to
probe for slots are not already claimed by other devices
before we blindly access them.  For this to all work with
the VL ahc cards, the EISA code will have to release all
resources associated with empty slots and the ahc driver will
have to grow an ISA front end.  I'm willing to help out on
this work (still have a functional EISA machine), but I stopped
short last time over concern on how to support Alpha/PA-RISC
machines that might have multiple EISA busses.

I've got uncommitted code that ties it to the ELCR.

Is this stuff documented anywhere?  I've always wanted to gain
access to the aic7xxx card's nonvolatile region in the ELCR,
but I could never find out how to do this.

Bus front end code shouldn't have to know about level/edge triggered IRQs.

So long as the ELCR is guaranteed to work.

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Re: cvs problems

2000-11-08 Thread Kris Kennaway

On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 10:18:18AM +0100, urded wrote:
 I updated my sources using cvsup, and i am unable to make the world : the message i 
get is :
 
 === doc
 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/doc created for 
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/doc
 make: don't know how to make bool-array.cc. Stop

You probably have a stale /usr/obj, or stray files in your source tree.

Kris

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Matthew N. 
Dodd" writes:
: Bus front end code shouldn't have to know about level/edge triggered IRQs.

The cardbus code, for example, will or in the RF_SHAREABLE bit when
appropriate.

Warner


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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
 Speaking of that, I'd like to see the EISA code move to be
 more like PCI.  We should see if there is something at slot
 0 and only then attempt to probe for sub-devices on the bus.

Humm...  I've got EISA BIOS extension code that correctly returns IDs but
not resources for a given slot.  I suspect that nobody actually
implemented that part of the spec.

 The only reason this isn't done is because I, due to the
 fledgling nature of the EISA code and the ahc VL card's
 almost looking like EISA cards, did the wrong thing here.
 We also need to be verifying that io ranges required to
 probe for slots are not already claimed by other devices
 before we blindly access them.  For this to all work with
 the VL ahc cards, the EISA code will have to release all
 resources associated with empty slots and the ahc driver will
 have to grow an ISA front end.

The EISA code currently doesn't reserve resources for empty slots.

I'd like to make the bus driver reserve all EISA specific address space
though.

 I'm willing to help out on this work (still have a functional EISA
 machine), but I stopped short last time over concern on how to support
 Alpha/PA-RISC machines that might have multiple EISA busses.

I can't see how multiple EISA busses would be possible.  While a PCI-EISA
bridge might make it easier, you've only got one valid set of IO port
ranges and ELCR ports.  I suppose you could remap the address space but
who needs more than 10 EISA slots anyway?

 I've got uncommitted code that ties it to the ELCR.
 
 Is this stuff documented anywhere?  I've always wanted to gain access
 to the aic7xxx card's nonvolatile region in the ELCR, but I could
 never find out how to do this.

Humm...

Try ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/eisabook.zip

I can't remember where I got it at the moment but its a pretty good
reference.


 Bus front end code shouldn't have to know about level/edge triggered IRQs.
 
 So long as the ELCR is guaranteed to work.

It is.

I've been running the code for almost 6 months.

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
 The cardbus code, for example, will or in the RF_SHAREABLE bit when
 appropriate.

Right, but the drivers that are consumers of the PCI or CARDBUS bus
interface shouldn't have to deal with RF_SHAREABLE; the bus driver should
do that.  I grant you that this isn't the case at the moment but it should
be.

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Warner Losh

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Matthew N. 
Dodd" writes:
: On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Warner Losh wrote:
:  The cardbus code, for example, will or in the RF_SHAREABLE bit when
:  appropriate.
: 
: Right, but the drivers that are consumers of the PCI or CARDBUS bus
: interface shouldn't have to deal with RF_SHAREABLE; the bus driver should
: do that.  I grant you that this isn't the case at the moment but it should
: be.

We are in violent agreement.  The cardbus bridge code is the one that
adds RF_SHAREABLE in the right places.

This should allow us, in the fullness of time, to share interrupts for
the 16-bit cards in cardbus sockets, for example, w/o sharing them for
those cards in a i82365SL socket.

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Justin T. Gibbs

 The only reason this isn't done is because I, due to the
 fledgling nature of the EISA code and the ahc VL card's
 almost looking like EISA cards, did the wrong thing here.
 We also need to be verifying that io ranges required to
 probe for slots are not already claimed by other devices
 before we blindly access them.  For this to all work with
 the VL ahc cards, the EISA code will have to release all
 resources associated with empty slots and the ahc driver will
 have to grow an ISA front end.

The EISA code currently doesn't reserve resources for empty slots.

I'd like to make the bus driver reserve all EISA specific address space
though.

This would prevent an ISA card that just happens to use an EISA
like identification scheme from attaching after EISA.  Unfortunately,
the 2842VL card does this.

 I'm willing to help out on this work (still have a functional EISA
 machine), but I stopped short last time over concern on how to support
 Alpha/PA-RISC machines that might have multiple EISA busses.

I can't see how multiple EISA busses would be possible.  While a PCI-EISA
bridge might make it easier, you've only got one valid set of IO port
ranges and ELCR ports.  I suppose you could remap the address space but
who needs more than 10 EISA slots anyway?

I just want to make sure that we at least support the EISA Alpha
machines.  I honestly don't know how they were set up.

 Is this stuff documented anywhere?  I've always wanted to gain access
 to the aic7xxx card's nonvolatile region in the ELCR, but I could
 never find out how to do this.

Humm...

Try ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/eisabook.zip

I can't seem to fetch it.  Permission denied.

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
 Try ftp://ftp.jurai.net/users/winter/eisabook.zip
 
 I can't seem to fetch it.  Permission denied.

Damn firewall.  Try with passive mode off.

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Re: unwanteed halt powerdown under -current (linuxerator?)

2000-11-08 Thread Terry Lambert

  Not really. See my previous mail.
  It seems that a SYSV4 Syscall maps to the evil call.
 
 Unless you had the SVR4 module loaded, it would still have been run as a 
 FreeBSD binary, which would give you exactly the same behaviour.

Is it possible to refuse to run the binary, unless it is FreeBSD
branded?  It would seem that FreeBSD branding should be there,
and that a non-matching branding should be result in a failure.


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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Terry Lambert

 The EISA code currently doesn't reserve resources for empty slots.
 
 I'd like to make the bus driver reserve all EISA specific address space
 though.
 
 This would prevent an ISA card that just happens to use an EISA
 like identification scheme from attaching after EISA.  Unfortunately,
 the 2842VL card does this.

There are a huge number of VESA Localbus cards that identify as
EISA cards, including having all the EISA device identifier stuff
in tehir ROMs.  The disk controllers are the worst, but I have
seen at least two video boards that do the same thing.

Though I'd like to deprecate VESA Localbus as an abomination, I
guess it has to be supported.

Maybe it would be possible to have a separate "VLBus" bus that
went in before the EISA bus?


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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Terry Lambert wrote:
 Maybe it would be possible to have a separate "VLBus" bus that
 went in before the EISA bus?

I'm still not clear as to why we need to differentiate them.  There really
is no requirement that slot 0 be present (other than it being standard and
all.)

Can we even tell if which EISA devices are really VL devices in disguise?

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Justin T. Gibbs

I'm still not clear as to why we need to differentiate them.  There really
is no requirement that slot 0 be present (other than it being standard and
all.)

Can we even tell if which EISA devices are really VL devices in disguise?

The only reason is to return the EISA probe to a read-only probe.
The ahc VL cards require that their ID0 register be written too
prior to reading the ID byte.  This isn't required for true
EISA cards and may prove harmful to other devices that just happen
to be in that space.  For instance, some PCI devices can be identified
as EISA cards if you probe the full EISA bus blindly.

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd

On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
 The only reason is to return the EISA probe to a read-only probe. The
 ahc VL cards require that their ID0 register be written too prior to
 reading the ID byte.

Humm...  I had wondered why that was there.  Is there a way to detect VLB
devices some other way?

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Justin T. Gibbs

Humm...  I had wondered why that was there.  Is there a way to detect VLB
devices some other way?

This is specific to the aha2842 and is the only way I know of detecting
those boards.

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Re: licq after crt* change

2000-11-08 Thread Will Andrews

On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 12:46:43PM +0300, Dmitry Valdov wrote:
 licq doesn't work since crt* change.. (coredumps) Any workaround?
 (recompile if licq  qt doesn't help).
 /usr/ports/net/licq

IIRC, the discussion about that found that it wasn't crt*'s fault but
rather a bug in the dynamic linker.  John Polstra fixed it and MFC'd
yesterday.  Please upgrade and try again.

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Re: /etc/defaults/rc.conf

2000-11-08 Thread Neil Blakey-Milner

On Wed 2000-11-08 (09:30), Mikel wrote:
 I've had been considering running xinted for some time now, and thanks to
 Forest's suggestions I've been able to successfully get it up and running
 smoothly. I am personnaly left wondering why not just replact inetd altogether
 with this version? It certainly enhances security a bit.

How does it enhance security?

My main concern:

(nbm@scythe) /usr/src/usr.sbin/inetd find . -type f -name "*.c" | xargs wc -l | grep 
total
2933 total

vs:

(nbm@scythe) /home/nbm/security/xinetd-2.1.8.9pre10 find . -type f -name "*.c" | 
xargs wc -l | grep total
   23149 total

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mergemaster and $FreeBSD$

2000-11-08 Thread Archie Cobbs

My machines get their source code from a local CVS mirror of the
FreeBSD source tree, which is at /home/cvs/freebsd/src.. we have
our own CVSROOT stuff of course.

So when stuff is checked out of the freebsd/* repostitories, the
$FreeBSD$ tags don't get substituted correctly.

This causes mergemaster to list a zillion files as having differences
in only this string every upgrade.. even worse, mergemaster in some
cases seems to be comparing only the $FreeBSD$ strings and incorrectly
concluding that certain files don't need upgrading, when in fact they do.

So.. what stuff in /home/cvs/CVSROOT can I change so that sources
in freebsd/* get $FreeBSD$ substitution, but other sources get the
normal $Id$ substitution? Surely someone has solved this already.. ?

Thanks,
-Archie

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Re: licq after crt* change

2000-11-08 Thread John Polstra

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
Will Andrews  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 12:46:43PM +0300, Dmitry Valdov wrote:
  licq doesn't work since crt* change.. (coredumps) Any workaround?
  (recompile if licq  qt doesn't help).
  /usr/ports/net/licq
 
 IIRC, the discussion about that found that it wasn't crt*'s fault but
 rather a bug in the dynamic linker.  John Polstra fixed it and MFC'd
 yesterday.  Please upgrade and try again.

Well ... the problem I fixed didn't involve any core dumps. :-) It's
probably something different.  I'd need to see a stack trace to know
for sure.

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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Peter Wemm

"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote:
 On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, Terry Lambert wrote:
  Maybe it would be possible to have a separate "VLBus" bus that
  went in before the EISA bus?
 
 I'm still not clear as to why we need to differentiate them.  There really
 is no requirement that slot 0 be present (other than it being standard and
 all.)
 
 Can we even tell if which EISA devices are really VL devices in disguise?

Do you want to know what is even funnier?  One of my onboard ahc *PCI*
controllers (7895 based I think) also responds to the EISA probes if I
enable EISA.

Cheers,
-Peter
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Re: vx driver patch

2000-11-08 Thread Matthew N. Dodd

On Thu, 9 Nov 2000, Peter Wemm wrote:
 Do you want to know what is even funnier?  One of my onboard ahc *PCI*
 controllers (7895 based I think) also responds to the EISA probes if I
 enable EISA.

What machine and what does the output from the probe/attach look like?

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Re: Weird errors during kernel build

2000-11-08 Thread Rogier R. Mulhuijzen

At 13:37 6-11-00 -0500, drwilco wrote:
Yes I do have PERL_THREADED=true. Or rather I did have it until a minute
ago =)

Building world  kernel was succesful without PERL_THREADED. Maybe a 
warning should be added to /etc/make.conf?

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[PATCH] Please review and commit (Re: if_tap and devfs)

2000-11-08 Thread Maksim Yevmenkin

Hello All,

anyone wants to review and commit the following patch.

thanks,
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Re: [PATCH] Please review and commit (Re: if_tap and devfs)

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I just glanced at it and see no major mistakes.

Sorry I don't have time for a real review.

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Re: HPT370 RAID - booting

2000-11-08 Thread Soren Schmidt

It seems [Ivan Debn_r] wrote:
 I'm just looking at the disk partitions, and the first 63 sectors are by
 default marked as unused. So is it really nescessary to have the ofset in
 the ar driver for HPT?
 
 I would prefer to have the requirement to not to use dangerously dedicated,
 but be able to boot the drive and install on it as a normal one.

Well, for all I care it can be changed, and I put a note in there to
mail you when users have RAID's that suddenly disappear :) 
Seriously I'm tempted to have a chat with HighPoint if they could 
maybe change this to use a setup like Promise do

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but in RAID1 it is essential to be able to take one
 of the drives and boot from it almost as if it was singe simple disk.
 How does the driver handles situation when there is one of the mirror drives
 broken or missing ?

The driver doesnt handle that, its up to the BIOS for now.

 Is it possible to query the driver to check, if the drives are OK from the
 userland ?

No, again the BIOS is to be used for now, if the RAID is broken it wont
be configured in the driver.

This might change in the (not too distant) future, but for now this is
all there is, but I thought this feature was essential enough to put
it in as is.

On the bright side remember that FreeBSD is the only free OS that has
support for these ATA RAID cards and tagged queueing, but I only
have this much spare time to do it.

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RE: HPT370 RAID - booting

2000-11-08 Thread Ivan Debnár

Thanks for feedback.

Please tell me if tou find this scenario possible:
I will install on one of the drives - ad0. It will work normally.

Than a few day, weeks, later, when we decide that the ar is fine, go to the
RAID bios, duplicate the disk ad0 to ad1 and RAID1 them.
Other than changing /etc/fstab entries, it should work fine - or am I wrong
?

I understand that it will definitely not work, if the ar driver offsets its
partitions by 10.
But with offset=0, will I be fine?

Those are just my thoughs, because I have to make that machine work, and
unfortunately have not that much time to experiment.

You have been very helpful, thanks for great work on ata. If I knew, that
Promise is that better supported, I would go for that. But anyway, HPT was
on the mainboard, and it looked very attractive after you CVS messages.

Maybe we should mention these shortcomings somewhere.

Ivan

-Original Message-
From: Soren Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 6:20 PM
To: [Ivan Debn_r]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HPT370 RAID - booting


It seems [Ivan Debn_r] wrote:
 I'm just looking at the disk partitions, and the first 63 sectors are by
 default marked as unused. So is it really nescessary to have the ofset in
 the ar driver for HPT?

 I would prefer to have the requirement to not to use dangerously
dedicated,
 but be able to boot the drive and install on it as a normal one.

Well, for all I care it can be changed, and I put a note in there to
mail you when users have RAID's that suddenly disappear :)
Seriously I'm tempted to have a chat with HighPoint if they could
maybe change this to use a setup like Promise do

 Correct me if I'm wrong, but in RAID1 it is essential to be able to take
one
 of the drives and boot from it almost as if it was singe simple disk.
 How does the driver handles situation when there is one of the mirror
drives
 broken or missing ?

The driver doesnt handle that, its up to the BIOS for now.

 Is it possible to query the driver to check, if the drives are OK from the
 userland ?

No, again the BIOS is to be used for now, if the RAID is broken it wont
be configured in the driver.

This might change in the (not too distant) future, but for now this is
all there is, but I thought this feature was essential enough to put
it in as is.

On the bright side remember that FreeBSD is the only free OS that has
support for these ATA RAID cards and tagged queueing, but I only
have this much spare time to do it.

-Søren



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Re: ATA RAID - sysinstall solution

2000-11-08 Thread janb

OK, i tested this. Sysinstall works fine now, and the system installs OK
from the SNAP 5 ftp server. ON reboot, however, the computer thing refuses
to boot of the RAID device. After the BIOS message "verifying
DMI.."(or similar) the system hangs.
Does anybody know why this could be?

jan

On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, [iso-8859-2] Ivan Debnár wrote:

 I'm using HTP 370 ATA RAID controller, which should have been supported in
 stable and current according to CVS messages from Soren.
 
 But as few of us found, it is not, in fact.
 
 KERNEL recognises device ar0.
 
 4.2 sysinstall does not offer ar0 as disk drive
 5.0-current sysinstall offers it, but is not able to create slices on it.
 (DEBUG: MakeDev unknown major/minor).
 
 So I looked through sysinstall source and libdisk source and guess what ! -
 libdisk doesn't know about ar? devices yet.
 
 Could someone update the libdisk source in stable and current to include the
 device?
 The files affected are:
 
 /src/lib/libdisk/create_chunk.c
 /src/lib/libdisk/disk.c
 
 --- disk.c.orig Thu Sep 14 14:10:45 2000
 +++ disk.c  Mon Nov  6 23:41:45 2000
 @@ -461,7 +461,7 @@
  }
  #endif
 
 -static char * device_list[] = {"wd", "ad", "da", "wfd", "fla", "idad",
 "mlxd", "amrd", "twed", 0};
 +static char * device_list[] = {"wd", "ad", "da", "wfd", "fla", "idad",
 "mlxd", "amrd", "twed", "ar", 0};
 
  char **
  Disk_Names()
 
 
 --- create_chunk.c.orig Fri Jul 14 08:30:59 2000
 +++ create_chunk.c  Mon Nov  6 23:46:59 2000
 @@ -300,6 +300,8 @@
 cmaj = 147, p += 4;
  else if (!strncmp(p, "da", 2)) /* CAM support */
 cmaj = 13, p += 2;
 +else if (!strncmp(p, "ar", 2)) /* ATA RAID */
 +   cmaj = 157, p += 2;
  else {
 msgDebug("MakeDev: Unknown major/minor for devtype %s\n", p);
 return 0;
 
 Unfortunately I am not able to compile and try this, but if someone can
 create a set of 4-STABLE or 5-CURRENT installation disks and e-mail them,
 I'm willing to try.
 
 Those diffs are against 2000-10-30 stable, so they are just to show changes
 what I thing should be done to actual current files. This should make
 Current install on ATA RAID hopefully. I don't know, if it will make STABLE
 sysinstall recognize the ar device. I hope so.
 
 
 Ivan Debnár
 Online Consulting, s.r.o.
 
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 fax://+421 88 4142231
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Re: ATA RAID - sysinstall solution

2000-11-08 Thread mw

 OK, i tested this. Sysinstall works fine now, and the system installs OK
 from the SNAP 5 ftp server. ON reboot, however, the computer thing refuses
 to boot of the RAID device. After the BIOS message "verifying
 DMI.."(or similar) the system hangs.

Because of the offset 10, sysinstall wrote the fdisk table to the wrong 
location on the disk... 

The following little patch fixes this. This should work for both 4 and 5 trees:
- look for 
.. += rdp-offset
  in ata-raid.c
- make this line conditional
  if (buf1-drive)
.. += rdp-offset

Of course, as Soren pointed out, you're risking screwing your first 
partition if you're NOT using an fdisk compatible layout. However, without
this patch the RAID is not bootable, so for me the case is clear:-) I've
used this with a RAID0 here successfully (incl. booting off it).

About the other suggestion, initially installing on the single drive, and
then mirroring it (turning it into a RAID1): should work, but be careful not
to use the original disk up to the last cylinder. The RAID will be (just)
slightly smaller than the individual disk, and if you filled your single 
disk to the end, FreeBSD will reject the last partition as being out of
disk limits. You'll have to adjust the disklabel after the change.
Of course, this will also only work with the above patch, or the disklabel
won't be found.

Good luck,
Markus

BTW: and many thanks to Soren for his work!
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RE: ATA RAID - sysinstall solution

2000-11-08 Thread Ivan Debnr

I have the same problem on 4, and I have a response from Soren:

--- start ---
Ugh, booting from the HPT RAID is not supported as is. This is due
to the HPT using sector #9 for the RAID config stuff, this is not
compatible with our bootcode/loader as in some circumstances it
would happily overwrite this config info, trashing the RAID in
the process. Therefore the code uses an offset of 10 into the
physical disks.
However if you always use an fdisk partition table, and newer uses
the first 10 sectors on the disk, you could make the offset 0
in the driver, and have booting work that way, or buy a promise :)
I'm not sure I've used the rigth thing as default here, but at
least this was POLA seen with my dangerously dedicated eyes...

--- end ---

This is bad, but I hope we will help Soren to sort thing out on how to get
to do it.

We will keep in touch.

Ivan

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To: Ivan Debnr
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Subject: Re: ATA RAID - sysinstall solution


OK, i tested this. Sysinstall works fine now, and the system installs OK
from the SNAP 5 ftp server. ON reboot, however, the computer thing refuses
to boot of the RAID device. After the BIOS message "verifying
DMI.."(or similar) the system hangs.
Does anybody know why this could be?

jan




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HPT370 RAID - booting

2000-11-08 Thread Ivan Debnr

I'm just looking at the disk partitions, and the first 63 sectors are by
default marked as unused. So is it really nescessary to have the ofset in
the ar driver for HPT?

I would prefer to have the requirement to not to use dangerously dedicated,
but be able to boot the drive and install on it as a normal one.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in RAID1 it is essential to be able to take one
of the drives and boot from it almost as if it was singe simple disk.
How does the driver handles situation when there is one of the mirror drives
broken or missing ?

Is it possible to query the driver to check, if the drives are OK from the
userland ?


Ivan Debnr
Online Consulting, s.r.o.

tel.://+421 88 4146721
fax://+421 88 4142231
http://www.o-c.sk


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