NEW IPFW FEATURE [PATCHES]: Dynamic rule expiration lifetime fine-grained control

2001-07-05 Thread Aaron Gifford
Please read the bulk of my message in the Description: section below... Submitter-Id: current-users Originator:Aaron Gifford Organization: N/A Confidential: no Synopsis: NEW IPFW FEATURE [PATCHES]: Dynamic rule expiration lifetime fine-grained control Severity: non-criticial

Re: DEVFS behaviour

2001-07-05 Thread Chris Faulhaber
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 07:57:41AM +0200, Riccardo Torrini wrote: Maybe this is a stupid(?) question, but how DEVFS is supposed to work with softlink? How can I make them reboot-resistant? See /etc/rc.devfs (which should probably be referenced in devfs(5)). -- Chris D. Faulhaber - [EMAIL

more make world problems on alpha.

2001-07-05 Thread Jim Pirzyk
rarpd fails to compile (again the WARNS?=2 problem. - JimP beta2 6# make cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -DTFTP_DIR=\/tftpboot\ -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wno-uninitialized -Werror -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -c

Re: more make world problems on alpha.

2001-07-05 Thread Matthew Jacob
Yes, I found fixed that, but I haven't checked it in yet. On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Jim Pirzyk wrote: rarpd fails to compile (again the WARNS?=2 problem. - JimP beta2 6# make cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -DTFTP_DIR=\/tftpboot\ -W -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 12:12:22AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: This kind of language isn't called for. People make mistakes, and insulting them for it serves no useful purpose. People are making more and more mistakes that break the Alpha build. We will soon have two more arches. We need to

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 05:49:56PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 12:12:22AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: This kind of language isn't called for. People make mistakes, and insulting them for it serves no useful purpose. People are making more and more mistakes that

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 09:41:21PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: Did you read my other mails? I doesn't appear that you have. Or you didn't understand them. I was laughing because, yes, WARNS was turned on prematurely which killed things. Well, your email didn't translate well, because it came

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 09:41:21PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: Did you read my other mails? I doesn't appear that you have. Or you didn't understand them. I was laughing because, yes, WARNS was turned on prematurely which killed things.

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2001-Jul-05 20:31:43 -0700, Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps what we really need- and this is really a toolchain issues- is a compiler that is just as stringent on i386 as on alpha? IMHO, the compiler _is_ just as stringent on i386 as Alpha (it's the same compiler). IMHO, the

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2001-Jul-05 20:31:43 -0700, Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Perhaps what we really need- and this is really a toolchain issues- is a compiler that is just as stringent on i386 as on alpha? IMHO, the compiler _is_ just as stringent on i386

Re: Interruptable hang starting init in today's -CURRENT

2001-07-05 Thread David Wolfskill
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 10:44:39 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK; I got today's -CURRENT built and running: FreeBSD m147.whistle.com 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #60: Thu Jul 5 09:27:49 PDT 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/common/C/obj/usr/src/sys/LAPTOP_30W i386 but it

background fsck panics?

2001-07-05 Thread Christian Carstensen
hi, after some weeks without softupdates, i recently reenabled them on my notebook. it seems, that my problems still exist. background checking one of my partitions leads to a panic() complaining about some block too large error. sorry, i didn't capture the message, and for obvious reasons i

RE: I take it alpha is broken now, yes?

2001-07-05 Thread John Baldwin
On 05-Jul-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: ha/alpha/genassym.c ../../../vm/vm_zeroidle.c:13: opt_npx.h: No such file or directory ../../../vm/vm_zeroidle.c:17: opt_reset.h: No such file or directory ../../../vm/vm_zeroidle.c:38: machine/pcb_ext.h: No such file or directory

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 11:00:09AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: it's just the same old same old refrain of beast is broken or oh well, etc. etc. etc but yer right, insulting does no good. I beg too much hard cider at dinner. It makes

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Matthew Jacob
David claimed he would upgrade beast at some point- but he's pretty busy. 1. If I had the authority to do so, I'd drive over to Concord and do it. I can do that next week some time. 2. If I had 144KBit DSL, I'd pay the extra power bills and leave up a PC164 at Feral all the time for people to

Re: KLD-module(dir) naming conventions

2001-07-05 Thread Michael Reifenberger
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Bruce Evans wrote: ... if_foo.c - /sys/modules/foo - foo.ko. There is no driver named if_foo. that seems to be right. No man if_ed(4) yust ed(4)... Bye! Michael Reifenberger ^.*Plaut.*$, IT, R/3 Basis, GPS To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: KLD-module(dir) naming conventions

2001-07-05 Thread Mike Smith
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Bruce Evans wrote: ... if_foo.c - /sys/modules/foo - foo.ko. There is no driver named if_foo. that seems to be right. No man if_ed(4) yust ed(4)... No. if_foo.c in /sys/modules/foo builds if_foo.ko. This was discussed a year or so back; it's a compromise design.

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Jordan Hubbard
Since David's busy, I'm working on it now. Just some build issues to be worked out since warnings were made fatal recently. - Jordan From: Matthew Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 14:17:51 -0700 (PDT) David claimed he would upgrade

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 04:12:22PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: Since David's busy, I'm working on it now. Just some build issues to be worked out since warnings were made fatal recently. What problems? There shouldn't be any fatalities from warnings unless people have marked something with

softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread Benjamin P. Grubin
As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it was unsafe to enable softupdates on a root partition. Is it safe to go back in the water there, now? Cheers, Ben Benjamin P. Grubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP Fingerprint: EDE9 A88F 3BCC 514A F310 FEFB

Re: softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 05), Benjamin P. Grubin said: As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it was unsafe to enable softupdates on a root partition. Is it safe to go back in the water there, now? The 2 drawbacks with SU are 1 - You can't immediately reuse the

Re: softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread David Wolfskill
From: Benjamin P. Grubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 19:46:54 -0400 As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it was unsafe to enable softupdates on a root partition. Is it safe to go back in the water there, now? Well, despite the warnings, I've been

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 02:17:51PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: David claimed he would upgrade beast at some point- but he's pretty busy. Acutally out of the state on a WRS forced vacation. :-( 1. If I had the authority to do so, I'd drive over to Concord and do it. I can do that next week

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread David O'Brien
On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 08:53:59AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Not normal, except by dimwits who add WARNS?= 2 w/o checking. Now, would it really have been so hard to just send (or even commit) a patch that declares len as a size_t rather than an unsigned int, instead of calling

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Jordan Hubbard
Well, unless implicit pointer-to-int conversions have suddenly become fatal, it blew up on something that just got fixed (I went to commit the fix and found that someone else had already done so in the last 12 hours). The world build has been restarted and is running again. - Jordan From: Kris

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread John Baldwin
On 05-Jul-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 04:12:22PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: Since David's busy, I'm working on it now. Just some build issues to be worked out since warnings were made fatal recently. What problems? There shouldn't be any fatalities from warnings

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread John Baldwin
On 06-Jul-01 Jordan Hubbard wrote: Well, unless implicit pointer-to-int conversions have suddenly become fatal, it blew up on something that just got fixed (I went to commit the fix and found that someone else had already done so in the last 12 hours). The world build has been restarted and

Re: RFC: Kernel thread system nomenclature.

2001-07-05 Thread Peter Wemm
Jason Evans wrote: On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 02:16:16PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: Almost all of the current 'proc' pointers being passed around the system in syscalls will be changed to the #4 item. In addition, most accesses to curproc would point to a curthread (curr-#4) or a

Re: KLD-module(dir) naming conventions

2001-07-05 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 10:12:50AM +0200, Michael Reifenberger wrote: Hi, it seems to me that most existing if_* modul-directories are named in an inconstant way. FE: if_ti.c - /sys/modules/ti- if_ti.ko if_fxp.c - /sys/modules/fxp - if_fxp.ko ... but ... if_ef.c -

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Dima Dorfman
John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 06-Jul-01 Jordan Hubbard wrote: Well, unless implicit pointer-to-int conversions have suddenly become fatal, it blew up on something that just got fixed (I went to commit the fix and found that someone else had already done so in the last 12

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 06:00:25PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: On 05-Jul-01 Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 04:12:22PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: Since David's busy, I'm working on it now. Just some build issues to be worked out since warnings were made fatal recently.

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 06:54:45PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: Matt Jacob usually steps in and fixes breakages on the alpha. At the minimum, people should be either testing the build on all archs, or asking for someone else to review the patch on archs they don't have available (this last

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread John Baldwin
On 06-Jul-01 Dima Dorfman wrote: In the WARNS= case, another workable method would be to commit the warning fixes but don't commit the actual WARNS= change until the build has been verified on all archs. This doesn't work. The point of WARNS, as I see it anyway, is not to scrub the tree

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 05:38:31PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: What is so hard with ``make -m /home/kris/mk''? That's actually not one of the hoops you need to jump through on beast -- I think I got someone to install the new mk files already. The main hoops are related to stale /usr/include

Re: KLD-module(dir) naming conventions

2001-07-05 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Michael Reifenberger wrote: Hi, it seems to me that most existing if_* modul-directories are named in an inconstant way. FE: if_ti.c - /sys/modules/ti- if_ti.ko if_fxp.c - /sys/modules/fxp - if_fxp.ko ... but ... if_ef.c - /sys/modules/if_ef -

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Matthew Jacob
Yes, I've actually been massaging a few of those- glad somebody's on it. I'll come on out to Concord if you you need a hand It's sometimes hard to keep -current up on an alpha long enough for a complete buildworld On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: Since David's busy, I'm

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 04:12:22PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: Since David's busy, I'm working on it now. Just some build issues to be worked out since warnings were made fatal recently. What problems? There shouldn't be any fatalities from

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Matthew Jacob
Perhaps what we really need- and this is really a toolchain issues- is a compiler that is just as stringent on i386 as on alpha? I dunno- there used to be a flag to lint that would worn about non-portable size casts. Is there a gcc flag that would cover most of the heavy lifting for this on

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 08:07:40PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 04:12:22PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: Since David's busy, I'm working on it now. Just some build issues to be worked out since warnings were made fatal

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 08:07:40PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Jul 05, 2001 at 04:12:22PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: Since David's busy, I'm working on it now. Just some build issues

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread GH
I have to laugh. Sorry if you don't that helps. S'long then. I've no more time for the likes of you. *rolls eyes* Man, some people are hard to work in a team with. You guys are still trying to pass this off as a team?? *boggle* gh (Yeah yeah, unproductive..but what part of this thread

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread Matthew Jacob
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, GH wrote: I have to laugh. Sorry if you don't that helps. S'long then. I've no more time for the likes of you. *rolls eyes* Man, some people are hard to work in a team with. You guys are still trying to pass this off as a team?? *boggle* gh (Yeah yeah,

Re: Interruptable hang starting init in today's -CURRENT

2001-07-05 Thread David Wolfskill
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 22:12:46 +0700 (NOVST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] start_init: trying /sbin/init DEPENDENCY NOTE: portmap will be enabled to support NFS Entropy harvesting: interrupts ethernet point_to_point Leaving the system alone, it will apparently sit there

Re: chgrp broken on alpha systems

2001-07-05 Thread GH
Actually, the growing realization (at least to me) that the problem probably cannot be solved except via software tools, unless the FreeBSD community gets more like the NetBSD community in terms of awareness- which can only happen if it happens. I don't know how you feel about it, but I

Re: Another GNU ld(1) bug

2001-07-05 Thread John Polstra
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Maxim Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It turns that ld(1) in -current has another nasty bug. I noticed it when was doing an upgrade for the games/bomberinstinct port. Something is wrong with registering dependencies on shared libraries - following trace shows

Re: softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread David Scheidt
On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Dan Nelson wrote: :In the last episode (Jul 05), Benjamin P. Grubin said: : As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it : was unsafe to enable softupdates on a root partition. Is it safe to : go back in the water there, now? : :The 2 drawbacks with

Re: softupdates on /

2001-07-05 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jul 06), David Scheidt said: On Thu, 5 Jul 2001, Dan Nelson wrote: :In the last episode (Jul 05), Benjamin P. Grubin said: : As of a month ago or so, there was some discussion that concluded it : was unsafe to enable softupdates on a root partition. Is it safe to : go

Another GNU ld(1) bug

2001-07-05 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Hi, It turns that ld(1) in -current has another nasty bug. I noticed it when was doing an upgrade for the games/bomberinstinct port. Something is wrong with registering dependencies on shared libraries - following trace shows the problem (notice bogus crtn.o entry): cc -pipe -O

Re: KLD-module(dir) naming conventions

2001-07-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message 20010705100122.N1134-10@nihil Michael Reifenberger writes: : Hi, : it seems to me that most existing if_* modul-directories : are named in an inconstant way. : FE: : if_ti.c - /sys/modules/ti- if_ti.ko : if_fxp.c - /sys/modules/fxp - if_fxp.ko : ... : but : ... :

Re: KLD-module(dir) naming conventions

2001-07-05 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooks Davis writes: : They should have been if_* or possiably if/*, but since current plans I think the current way that most of them are done (eg module/foo) is right. : are to take src/sys/modules out back and shoot it, there's probably no : point in fixing the

Re: I take it alpha is broken now, yes?

2001-07-05 Thread Mike Smith
ha/alpha/genassym.c ../../../vm/vm_zeroidle.c:13: opt_npx.h: No such file or directory ../../../vm/vm_zeroidle.c:17: opt_reset.h: No such file or directory ../../../vm/vm_zeroidle.c:38: machine/pcb_ext.h: No such file or directory ../../../vm/vm_zeroidle.c:39: machine/vm86.h: No such file