Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[Ngie Cooper]

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:10 AM, Garrett Cooper  wrote:
...
> It booted both FreeBSD/Linux without my controller — the hardware 
> compatibility with it just sucks.
>
> Email back from ASUS, “it’s not in our compatibility list. Use another card”. 
> Uh, yeah… right. Not going to dump another $300 in an LSI card and redo my 
> RAID. Guess I’ll purchase another motherboard.
>
> Thank you for the input everyone. I’ll leave a helpful review on Newegg so 
> others don’t stumble on this either.

(following up/closing out the thread from last year on a more constructive note)

I recently had to replace my P6T-WS motherboard/CPU because it finally
bit the dust (it was 7 years old). I found a ASUS desktop board that
worked with the before mentioned LSI card -- ASUS Z170M-E D3. The
compatibility list didn't mention my LSI card specifically, but it
said that they validated the 9260-4i card, which was "close enough"
apparently.

The card's detected properly at POST, it attaches in FreeBSD, and the
volume looks AOK. The only thing that's slightly annoying is that the
chipset does some silly things with the onboard graphics when I plug
it in initially (I believe it thinks it's a graphics card..), so I had
to tweak some BIOS settings.

Thanks!
-Ngie
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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[Garrett Cooper]

On Apr 8, 2015, at 1:47, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk m.e.sanlit...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Garrett Cooper yaneurab...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Apr 8, 2015, at 0:49, Garrett Cooper yaneurab...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Apr 7, 2015, at 19:35, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:04:44PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
  Hi,
  I just tried to upgrade my system from a Nehalem style era 
  CPU/motherboard (a W series Xeon/P6T-WS) to a Haswell style 
  CPU/motherboard (an E-series Haswell/Z97 motherboard), and I?ve run into 
  some fun issues with my LSI 9240-4i controller. In particular, it?s 
  timing out because of issues noted similar to here: 
  https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064404.html
   . I?ve done the following so far to try and diagnose the issue:
  - Upgraded the firmware on the card and in the BIOS
  - Tweaked with the PCI-E settings (2.0/3.0; disabled power savings 
  mode in the BIOS; etc)
  - Turned off 4GB ?remapping? on the PCM.
  - Booted USB key fob-based images running: 9.3-RELEASE, 10.1-RELEASE, 
  10-STABLE, 11-CURRENT
  - Booted my original drive running 9.3-RELEASE
  - Booted with hw.mfi.msi=0 set in loader.
  - Booted with boot -v.
  One more thing to try, is to put the card into PCIe slot handled by the
  south bridge instead of the CPU slot.
 
  I have two Drake Skinnies card which I cannot use, since all my machines
  are desktop class, and the only available PCIe 8x+ slots are connected
  to CPU.  I was never able to get a satisfactory explanation why the
  thing does not like CPU' PCIe.
 
  Northbridge, Southbridge, didn’t seem to matter :/… I’ve tried all 3 PCI-E 
  slots to no avail.
 
  One thing that I’m thinking might be a problem is the fact that it’s 
  sharing resources between the onboard graphics and the storage controller, 
  and plus the other two slots were supposedly dedicated for storage purposes 
  or some such (NVME, etc).
 
  Guess I’ll try neutering the onboard GPU and see what happens...
 
 Nope. Still timing out with onboard GPU off… I give up with this 
 motherboard...
 
 
 
 If your motherboard is not listed in the following lists as suitable for 
 Linux , it may cause problems under Unix like operating systems :
 
 
 
 http://www.asus.com/Static_WebPage/OS_Compatibility/
 http://www.asus.com/websites/global/aboutASUS/OS/Linux1410.pdf
 http://www.asus.com/Static_WebPage/Server/

It booted both FreeBSD/Linux without my controller — the hardware compatibility 
with it just sucks.

Email back from ASUS, “it’s not in our compatibility list. Use another card”. 
Uh, yeah… right. Not going to dump another $300 in an LSI card and redo my 
RAID. Guess I’ll purchase another motherboard.

Thank you for the input everyone. I’ll leave a helpful review on Newegg so 
others don’t stumble on this either.


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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[Mehmet Erol Sanliturk]

On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Garrett Cooper yaneurab...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Apr 8, 2015, at 0:49, Garrett Cooper yaneurab...@gmail.com wrote:

  On Apr 7, 2015, at 19:35, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:04:44PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
  Hi,
  I just tried to upgrade my system from a Nehalem style era
 CPU/motherboard (a W series Xeon/P6T-WS) to a Haswell style CPU/motherboard
 (an E-series Haswell/Z97 motherboard), and I?ve run into some fun issues
 with my LSI 9240-4i controller. In particular, it?s timing out because of
 issues noted similar to here:
 https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064404.html
 . I?ve done the following so far to try and diagnose the issue:
  - Upgraded the firmware on the card and in the BIOS
  - Tweaked with the PCI-E settings (2.0/3.0; disabled power savings
 mode in the BIOS; etc)
  - Turned off 4GB ?remapping? on the PCM.
  - Booted USB key fob-based images running: 9.3-RELEASE,
 10.1-RELEASE, 10-STABLE, 11-CURRENT
  - Booted my original drive running 9.3-RELEASE
  - Booted with hw.mfi.msi=0 set in loader.
  - Booted with boot -v.
  One more thing to try, is to put the card into PCIe slot handled by the
  south bridge instead of the CPU slot.
 
  I have two Drake Skinnies card which I cannot use, since all my machines
  are desktop class, and the only available PCIe 8x+ slots are connected
  to CPU.  I was never able to get a satisfactory explanation why the
  thing does not like CPU' PCIe.
 
  Northbridge, Southbridge, didn’t seem to matter :/… I’ve tried all 3
 PCI-E slots to no avail.
 
  One thing that I’m thinking might be a problem is the fact that it’s
 sharing resources between the onboard graphics and the storage controller,
 and plus the other two slots were supposedly dedicated for storage purposes
 or some such (NVME, etc).
 
  Guess I’ll try neutering the onboard GPU and see what happens...

 Nope. Still timing out with onboard GPU off… I give up with this
 motherboard...




If your motherboard is not listed in the following lists as suitable for
Linux , it may cause problems under Unix like operating systems :



http://www.asus.com/Static_WebPage/OS_Compatibility/
http://www.asus.com/websites/global/aboutASUS/OS/Linux1410.pdf
http://www.asus.com/Static_WebPage/Server/



Thank you very much .


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[Garrett Cooper]

On Apr 7, 2015, at 19:35, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:04:44PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Hi,
  I just tried to upgrade my system from a Nehalem style era 
 CPU/motherboard (a W series Xeon/P6T-WS) to a Haswell style CPU/motherboard 
 (an E-series Haswell/Z97 motherboard), and I?ve run into some fun issues 
 with my LSI 9240-4i controller. In particular, it?s timing out because of 
 issues noted similar to here: 
 https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064404.html 
 . I?ve done the following so far to try and diagnose the issue:
  - Upgraded the firmware on the card and in the BIOS
  - Tweaked with the PCI-E settings (2.0/3.0; disabled power savings mode 
 in the BIOS; etc)
  - Turned off 4GB ?remapping? on the PCM.
  - Booted USB key fob-based images running: 9.3-RELEASE, 10.1-RELEASE, 
 10-STABLE, 11-CURRENT
  - Booted my original drive running 9.3-RELEASE
  - Booted with hw.mfi.msi=0 set in loader.
  - Booted with boot -v.
 One more thing to try, is to put the card into PCIe slot handled by the
 south bridge instead of the CPU slot.
 
 I have two Drake Skinnies card which I cannot use, since all my machines
 are desktop class, and the only available PCIe 8x+ slots are connected
 to CPU.  I was never able to get a satisfactory explanation why the
 thing does not like CPU' PCIe.

Northbridge, Southbridge, didn’t seem to matter :/… I’ve tried all 3 PCI-E 
slots to no avail.

One thing that I’m thinking might be a problem is the fact that it’s sharing 
resources between the onboard graphics and the storage controller, and plus the 
other two slots were supposedly dedicated for storage purposes or some such 
(NVME, etc).

Guess I’ll try neutering the onboard GPU and see what happens...


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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[Garrett Cooper]

On Apr 7, 2015, at 12:04, Garrett Cooper yaneurab...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
   I just tried to upgrade my system from a Nehalem style era 
 CPU/motherboard (a W series Xeon/P6T-WS) to a Haswell style CPU/motherboard 
 (an E-series Haswell/Z97 motherboard), and I’ve run into some fun issues with 
 my LSI 9240-4i controller. In particular, it’s timing out because of issues 
 noted similar to here: 
 https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064404.html . 
 I’ve done the following so far to try and diagnose the issue:
   - Upgraded the firmware on the card and in the BIOS
   - Tweaked with the PCI-E settings (2.0/3.0; disabled power savings mode 
 in the BIOS; etc)
   - Turned off 4GB “remapping” on the PCM.
   - Booted USB key fob-based images running: 9.3-RELEASE, 10.1-RELEASE, 
 10-STABLE, 11-CURRENT
   - Booted my original drive running 9.3-RELEASE
   - Booted with hw.mfi.msi=0 set in loader.
   - Booted with boot -v.
   Every time I run into MFI send command timeouts that eventually turn 
 into 
   Here’s the message I got (transcribed) with 11-CURRENT with boot -v:
 
 mfi0: Drake Skinny port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xdfc6-0x…. on pci2
 mfi0: attempting to allocate 1 MSI vectors (1 supported)
 pci: routing MSI IRQ 264 to local APIC 0 vector 59
 mfi0: using IRQ 264 for MSI
 mfi0: using MSI
 mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 4.23
 mfi0: Frame 0xfe07f719f280 timed out command 0x101
 Error 60 in callback from mfi_send_frame
 
   The complete screenshot for that timeout can be found here: 
 https://people.freebsd.org/~ngie/mfi-timeout-boot-verbose.jpg
   What I haven’t done yet:
   - Exporting the volume with the old motherboard and importing it with 
 the new motherboard (I need to do some reading before I do this though 
 because I don’t want to toast my data by accident :(…).
   - Booted either Linux or Windows to make sure the controller works with 
 the motherboard

CentOS 7.1 release is no bueno either with similar errors. So it’s most likely 
a hardware compatibility issue.


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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[Garrett Cooper]

On Apr 8, 2015, at 0:49, Garrett Cooper yaneurab...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Apr 7, 2015, at 19:35, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:04:44PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Hi,
 I just tried to upgrade my system from a Nehalem style era 
 CPU/motherboard (a W series Xeon/P6T-WS) to a Haswell style CPU/motherboard 
 (an E-series Haswell/Z97 motherboard), and I?ve run into some fun issues 
 with my LSI 9240-4i controller. In particular, it?s timing out because of 
 issues noted similar to here: 
 https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064404.html 
 . I?ve done the following so far to try and diagnose the issue:
 - Upgraded the firmware on the card and in the BIOS
 - Tweaked with the PCI-E settings (2.0/3.0; disabled power savings mode 
 in the BIOS; etc)
 - Turned off 4GB ?remapping? on the PCM.
 - Booted USB key fob-based images running: 9.3-RELEASE, 10.1-RELEASE, 
 10-STABLE, 11-CURRENT
 - Booted my original drive running 9.3-RELEASE
 - Booted with hw.mfi.msi=0 set in loader.
 - Booted with boot -v.
 One more thing to try, is to put the card into PCIe slot handled by the
 south bridge instead of the CPU slot.
 
 I have two Drake Skinnies card which I cannot use, since all my machines
 are desktop class, and the only available PCIe 8x+ slots are connected
 to CPU.  I was never able to get a satisfactory explanation why the
 thing does not like CPU' PCIe.
 
 Northbridge, Southbridge, didn’t seem to matter :/… I’ve tried all 3 PCI-E 
 slots to no avail.
 
 One thing that I’m thinking might be a problem is the fact that it’s sharing 
 resources between the onboard graphics and the storage controller, and plus 
 the other two slots were supposedly dedicated for storage purposes or some 
 such (NVME, etc).
 
 Guess I’ll try neutering the onboard GPU and see what happens...

Nope. Still timing out with onboard GPU off… I give up with this motherboard...


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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[NGie Cooper]

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net wrote:
 On 4/7/2015 3:04 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:

 Hi,
 I just tried to upgrade my system from a Nehalem style era
 CPU/motherboard (a W series Xeon/P6T-WS) to a Haswell style CPU/motherboard
 (an E-series Haswell/Z97 motherboard), and I’ve run into some fun issues
 with my LSI 9240-4i controller. In particular, it’s timing out because of
 issues noted similar to here:
 https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064404.html
 . I’ve done the following so far to try and diagnose the issue:
 - Upgraded the firmware on the card and in the BIOS
 Does anyone have any thoughts or hints on this issue?


 What firmware are you running on the card ? What does

  mfiutil show firmware

 give you ?

 I am running with good results so far 3 cards with on RELENG10 and RELENG9
 (well, FreeNAS)


 mfi0 Firmware Package Version: 20.13.1-0208
 mfi0 Firmware Images:
 Name  Version  Date Time Status
 BIOS  4.38.02.2_4.16.08.00_0x06060A05  07/23/2014
   07/23/2014
   active
 PCLI  03.02-020:#%9May 07 2012  13:21:53 active
 BCON  4.0-61-e_50-Rel  Sep 09 2014  11:45:57 active
 NVDT  3.09.03-0064 Oct 06 2014  12:00:15 active
 APP   2.130.404-3836   Oct 16 2014  06:50:12 active
 BTBL  2.02.00.00-0001  Aug 18 2010  11:44:44 active

Hi Mike!
That's the version I'm running too. Do you have the same model
motherboard (there are a couple Z97s, I don't think it matters which
one as long as it's the same family)? If so, it's probably something
to do with the state of the volume, i.e. I might need to export and
reimport it.
Thanks for the feedback :)!
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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[Mike Tancsa]

On 4/7/2015 3:04 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:

Hi,
I just tried to upgrade my system from a Nehalem style era 
CPU/motherboard (a W series Xeon/P6T-WS) to a Haswell style CPU/motherboard (an 
E-series Haswell/Z97 motherboard), and I’ve run into some fun issues with my 
LSI 9240-4i controller. In particular, it’s timing out because of issues noted 
similar to here: 
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064404.html . 
I’ve done the following so far to try and diagnose the issue:
- Upgraded the firmware on the card and in the BIOS
Does anyone have any thoughts or hints on this issue?


What firmware are you running on the card ? What does

 mfiutil show firmware

give you ?

I am running with good results so far 3 cards with on RELENG10 and 
RELENG9 (well, FreeNAS)



mfi0 Firmware Package Version: 20.13.1-0208
mfi0 Firmware Images:
Name  Version  Date Time Status
BIOS  4.38.02.2_4.16.08.00_0x06060A05  07/23/2014
  07/23/2014
  active
PCLI  03.02-020:#%9May 07 2012  13:21:53 active
BCON  4.0-61-e_50-Rel  Sep 09 2014  11:45:57 active
NVDT  3.09.03-0064 Oct 06 2014  12:00:15 active
APP   2.130.404-3836   Oct 16 2014  06:50:12 active
BTBL  2.02.00.00-0001  Aug 18 2010  11:44:44 active


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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[Mike Tancsa]

On 4/7/2015 4:25 PM, NGie Cooper wrote:


Hi Mike!
 That's the version I'm running too. Do you have the same model
motherboard (there are a couple Z97s, I don't think it matters which
one as long as it's the same family)? If so, it's probably something
to do with the state of the volume, i.e. I might need to export and
reimport it.
Thanks for the feedback :)!


Hi,
	All are Intel MB S1200RP_SE. Sorry :(  I will take a quick look in the 
lab to see if there are any ASUS boards around, but I dont think so.


BIOS Information
Vendor: Intel Corp.
Version: S1200RP.86B.02.01.0004.051320141432
Release Date: 05/13/2014




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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[Mike Tancsa]

On 4/7/2015 3:14 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote:

On 4/7/2015 3:04 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:

Hi,
I just tried to upgrade my system from a Nehalem style era
CPU/motherboard (a W series Xeon/P6T-WS) to a Haswell style
CPU/motherboard (an E-series Haswell/Z97 motherboard), and I’ve run
into some fun issues with my LSI 9240-4i controller. In particular,
it’s timing out because of issues noted similar to here:
https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064404.html
. I’ve done the following so far to try and diagnose the issue:
- Upgraded the firmware on the card and in the BIOS


Probably not related to your issue, but another trick with this card 
that was helpful for me


https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2014-December/262744.html


---Mike


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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[NGie Cooper]

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net wrote:
 On 4/7/2015 3:14 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote:

 On 4/7/2015 3:04 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:

 Hi,
 I just tried to upgrade my system from a Nehalem style era
 CPU/motherboard (a W series Xeon/P6T-WS) to a Haswell style
 CPU/motherboard (an E-series Haswell/Z97 motherboard), and I’ve run
 into some fun issues with my LSI 9240-4i controller. In particular,
 it’s timing out because of issues noted similar to here:

 https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064404.html
 . I’ve done the following so far to try and diagnose the issue:
 - Upgraded the firmware on the card and in the BIOS


 Probably not related to your issue, but another trick with this card that
 was helpful for me

 https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2014-December/262744.html

Hmmm... ok. I can set that from the WebBIOS too.

Weird why it would be an issue now since I basically unplugged the
card from my old motherboard and plugged it into my new one (no
cabling changed); it shows up at POST too, and everything's groovy
there...

Thanks!
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Re: mfi timeouts at boot on ASUS Z97 motherboard with LSI 9240-4i

[Konstantin Belousov]

On Tue, Apr 07, 2015 at 12:04:44PM -0700, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Hi,
   I just tried to upgrade my system from a Nehalem style era 
 CPU/motherboard (a W series Xeon/P6T-WS) to a Haswell style CPU/motherboard 
 (an E-series Haswell/Z97 motherboard), and I?ve run into some fun issues with 
 my LSI 9240-4i controller. In particular, it?s timing out because of issues 
 noted similar to here: 
 https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2011-October/064404.html . 
 I?ve done the following so far to try and diagnose the issue:
   - Upgraded the firmware on the card and in the BIOS
   - Tweaked with the PCI-E settings (2.0/3.0; disabled power savings mode 
 in the BIOS; etc)
   - Turned off 4GB ?remapping? on the PCM.
   - Booted USB key fob-based images running: 9.3-RELEASE, 10.1-RELEASE, 
 10-STABLE, 11-CURRENT
   - Booted my original drive running 9.3-RELEASE
   - Booted with hw.mfi.msi=0 set in loader.
   - Booted with boot -v.
One more thing to try, is to put the card into PCIe slot handled by the
south bridge instead of the CPU slot.

I have two Drake Skinnies card which I cannot use, since all my machines
are desktop class, and the only available PCIe 8x+ slots are connected
to CPU.  I was never able to get a satisfactory explanation why the
thing does not like CPU' PCIe.

   Every time I run into MFI send command timeouts that eventually turn 
 into 
   Here?s the message I got (transcribed) with 11-CURRENT with boot -v:
 
 mfi0: Drake Skinny port 0xe000-0xe0ff mem 0xdfc6-0x?. on pci2
 mfi0: attempting to allocate 1 MSI vectors (1 supported)
 pci: routing MSI IRQ 264 to local APIC 0 vector 59
 mfi0: using IRQ 264 for MSI
 mfi0: using MSI
 mfi0: Megaraid SAS driver Ver 4.23
 mfi0: Frame 0xfe07f719f280 timed out command 0x101
 Error 60 in callback from mfi_send_frame
 
   The complete screenshot for that timeout can be found here: 
 https://people.freebsd.org/~ngie/mfi-timeout-boot-verbose.jpg
   What I haven?t done yet:
   - Exporting the volume with the old motherboard and importing it with 
 the new motherboard (I need to do some reading before I do this though 
 because I don?t want to toast my data by accident :(?).
   - Booted either Linux or Windows to make sure the controller works with 
 the motherboard
   - Tried clearing events with the controller
   Does anyone have any thoughts or hints on this issue?
 Thanks!


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