Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-15 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. phk malloc debugging flags enabled by default. Solutions include recompiling apps, and toggling things off in /etc/malloc.conf. No recompiling needed; if you don't like the default options, just # ln -s aj /etc/malloc.conf 2. pam modules break

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-15 Thread Greg Black
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: | 3. xconsole causes periodic panics. The problem (according to BDE) is a | well-know bug in printf(9), caused by The TIOCCONS ioctl ... panics when | printf() is called while sched_lock is held. I reported this bug in | October 2001, if anyone wants to look

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-15 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: | Ages-old, very difficult to fix. Just don't use xconsole. You left out the final sentence with the suggested alternative. There is no suggested alternative. The problem is well-known and has been around for a long time, and

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-09 Thread Murray Stokely
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 04:55:29PM -0500, Garance A Drosihn wrote: One thing to keep in mind here is that this is still going to be a snapshot of -current, and not a production release of -stable. We want a snapshot that does not have any serious problems, but innocent users should still

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Barton writes: : 1. phk malloc debugging flags enabled by default. Solutions include : recompiling apps, and toggling things off in /etc/malloc.conf. Recompiling apps isn't going to change things. The default is in the system. : 2. pam modules break backwards

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Hiten Pandya
Shouldn't this be CC'ed to -doc as well? Maybe someone will write an article on a little release note kinda thing for this issue. Just an opinion from a -current user. :) -- Hiten --- Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Murray Stokely wrote: As discussed at

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Hiten Pandya
--- Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : 3. xconsole causes periodic panics. The problem (according to BDE) is a : well-know bug in printf(9), caused by The TIOCCONS ioctl ... panics when : printf() is called while sched_lock is held. I reported this bug in : October 2001, if anyone wants

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Murray Stokely
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:33:27AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: Shouldn't this be CC'ed to -doc as well? Maybe someone will write an article on a little release note kinda thing for this issue. Just an opinion from a -current user. :) We're collecting notes for a Testing Guide similar to

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Hiten Pandya
--- Murray Stokely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 11:33:27AM -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: Shouldn't this be CC'ed to -doc as well? Maybe someone will write an article on a little release note kinda thing for this issue. Just an opinion from a -current user. :) We're

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Hiten Pandya
--- Murray Stokely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're collecting notes for a Testing Guide similar to the one we published leading up to FreeBSD 4.5. More than anything, we need information from developers about how users can best test the new functionality. Using k-options such as

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Michael G. Petry
Per Doug's note, is there a schedule to pull the XFree86-4 back up to 4.2.0? Since it was pulled back because of the 4.5 release, it would be a shame for it to be also held back by a -current snapshot. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Will Andrews
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:58:40PM -0500, Michael G. Petry wrote: Per Doug's note, is there a schedule to pull the XFree86-4 back up to 4.2.0? Since it was pulled back because of the 4.5 release, it would be a shame for it to be also held back by a -current snapshot. Yes, I am handling that.

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Garance A Drosihn
One thing to keep in mind here is that this is still going to be a snapshot of -current, and not a production release of -stable. We want a snapshot that does not have any serious problems, but innocent users should still realize that there are definitely going to be a lot of loose ends and rough

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Thomas Moestl
On Fri, 2002/03/08 at 11:23:36 -0800, Doug Barton wrote: 3. xconsole causes periodic panics. The problem (according to BDE) is a well-know bug in printf(9), caused by The TIOCCONS ioctl ... panics when printf() is called while sched_lock is held. I reported this bug in October 2001, if anyone

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Terry Lambert
Warner Losh wrote: : 2. pam modules break backwards compatibility with pam apps compiled on : RELENG_4. The only solution I've been offered is to recompile things (or, : my preferred solution, don't use pam). Yes. There's nothing here except to recompile. And linker changes, if they

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Thomas Moestl wrote: On Fri, 2002/03/08 at 11:23:36 -0800, Doug Barton wrote: 3. xconsole causes periodic panics. The problem (according to BDE) is a well-know bug in printf(9), caused by The TIOCCONS ioctl ... panics when printf() is called while sched_lock is held. I

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug Barton writes: : 1. phk malloc debugging flags enabled by default. Solutions include : recompiling apps, and toggling things off in /etc/malloc.conf. Recompiling apps isn't going to change things. The default is in

Re: Preparing innocent users for -current

2002-03-08 Thread Doug Barton
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Hiten Pandya wrote: Shouldn't this be CC'ed to -doc as well? I trust Murray as releng, and Bruce as release docs guy to DTRT with the information. :) -- We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. And in this great conflict, ... we will