Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
Hi, On Sun, 31 May 2015 10:01:48 +0200 Fabian Keil wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > On Sat, 30 May 2015 05:52:56 -0400 > > Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > > > My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to > > > 10-stable how do I do this without needing a reinstall? > > > > > > > I did this several times from sources. Be aware of one problem which > > could be fatal. If you created a encrypted partition with GELI and > > you downgrade, the older version might not be able to handle the > > encryption of the newer version. This is not mentioned in the > > documentation. > > The "[h]ighest GELI metadata version supported by the given > FreeBSD version" is documented in geli(8)'s history section. > it happened to me just shortly after 10 was released, that I tried to read a GELI partition with 9.0 which is supposed to work according to the manual but did not work for me. After installing 10 on the affected machine, everything worked. After seeing some notes on the page of my favorit search engine that this is known, I did not bother to do anything else. Should I check when I have time if this is still the case with 10.1? Erich ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 04:35:35PM -0700 I heard the voice of Garrett Cooper, and lo! it spake thus: > > V7 support was never MFCed to stable/9. It’s in stable/10 and newer > and was included in 10.0-RELEASE: Right, but it's not listed in 10.0's (or stable/10's) geli.8; _that_ rev was never MFC'd: r265950 | thomas | 2014-05-13 10:46:52 -0500 (Tue, 13 May 2014) | 5 lines Add mention of metadata version 7 in FreeBSD 10.0 Reviewed by:pjd MFC after: 1 day -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fulle...@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
On May 31, 2015, at 16:27, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 04:20:42PM -0700 I heard the voice of > Kevin Oberman, and lo! it spake thus: >> >> Unfortunately the list ends at 9.0. It would be nice if it could be >> updated. I might sift through SVN and see if I can put together a patch for >> 10.2. It is quite likely that the version has not changed since 9.0. > > In -CURRENT, it has a line for version 7 in 10.0 added in r265950 > (apparently after the stable/10 branch point; the actual v7 support > was >a year before that), that was seemingly never MFC'd. V7 support was never MFCed to stable/9. It’s in stable/10 and newer and was included in 10.0-RELEASE: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/release/10.0.0/sys/geom/eli/g_eli.h?r1=238115&r2=238116&; . Cheers! signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 04:20:42PM -0700 I heard the voice of Kevin Oberman, and lo! it spake thus: > > Unfortunately the list ends at 9.0. It would be nice if it could be > updated. I might sift through SVN and see if I can put together a patch for > 10.2. It is quite likely that the version has not changed since 9.0. In -CURRENT, it has a line for version 7 in 10.0 added in r265950 (apparently after the stable/10 branch point; the actual v7 support was >a year before that), that was seemingly never MFC'd. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fulle...@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:20 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Fabian Keil > > wrote: > > > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 30 May 2015 05:52:56 -0400 > > > Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > > > > > My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to > > > > 10-stable how do I do this without needing a reinstall? > > > > > > > > > > I did this several times from sources. Be aware of one problem which > > > could be fatal. If you created a encrypted partition with GELI and you > > > downgrade, the older version might not be able to handle the encryption > > > of the newer version. This is not mentioned in the documentation. > > > > The "[h]ighest GELI metadata version supported by the given > > FreeBSD version" is documented in geli(8)'s history section. > > > > Fabian > > > > Unfortunately the list ends at 9.0. It would be nice if it could be > updated. I might sift through SVN and see if I can put together a patch for > 10.2. It is quite likely that the version has not changed since 9.0. > Already done and no problem with NFS or fstab or any other disk related stuff (mergemaster -FUi does wonders) -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Fabian Keil wrote: > Erich Dollansky wrote: > > > On Sat, 30 May 2015 05:52:56 -0400 > > Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > > > My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to > > > 10-stable how do I do this without needing a reinstall? > > > > > > > I did this several times from sources. Be aware of one problem which > > could be fatal. If you created a encrypted partition with GELI and you > > downgrade, the older version might not be able to handle the encryption > > of the newer version. This is not mentioned in the documentation. > > The "[h]ighest GELI metadata version supported by the given > FreeBSD version" is documented in geli(8)'s history section. > > Fabian > Unfortunately the list ends at 9.0. It would be nice if it could be updated. I might sift through SVN and see if I can put together a patch for 10.2. It is quite likely that the version has not changed since 9.0. -- Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
Erich Dollansky wrote: > On Sat, 30 May 2015 05:52:56 -0400 > Aryeh Friedman wrote: > > > My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to > > 10-stable how do I do this without needing a reinstall? > > > > I did this several times from sources. Be aware of one problem which > could be fatal. If you created a encrypted partition with GELI and you > downgrade, the older version might not be able to handle the encryption > of the newer version. This is not mentioned in the documentation. The "[h]ighest GELI metadata version supported by the given FreeBSD version" is documented in geli(8)'s history section. Fabian pgpLEXdQmi9RB.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
On May 30, 2015, at 18:41, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, 30 May 2015 05:52:56 -0400 > Aryeh Friedman wrote: > >> My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to >> 10-stable how do I do this without needing a reinstall? >> > > I did this several times from sources. Be aware of one problem which > could be fatal. If you created a encrypted partition with GELI and you > downgrade, the older version might not be able to handle the encryption > of the newer version. This is not mentioned in the documentation. > > There might be also a catch with the mix of kernel/world. To avoid > problems there, I ran both the installation of kernel and the world in > one go. Anything that modifies on-disk metadata is a no-go for downgrades, which includes UFS and ZFS as well… Cheers, -NGie signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
Hi, On Sat, 30 May 2015 05:52:56 -0400 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to > 10-stable how do I do this without needing a reinstall? > I did this several times from sources. Be aware of one problem which could be fatal. If you created a encrypted partition with GELI and you downgrade, the older version might not be able to handle the encryption of the newer version. This is not mentioned in the documentation. There might be also a catch with the mix of kernel/world. To avoid problems there, I ran both the installation of kernel and the world in one go. Erich ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
On Sat, 30 May 2015 05:52:56 -0400 Aryeh Friedman wrote > My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to 10-stable > how do I do this without needing a reinstall? This article By Warren Block might be of help: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/stable.html HTH --Chris > > -- > Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org > ___ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
2015-05-30 11:52 GMT+02:00 Aryeh Friedman : > My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to 10-stable > how do I do this without needing a reinstall? > > I have done the downgrade of my home server few weeks ago. I have done this rebuilding the whole OS from source: 1 - Upgrade the 11-CURRENT if old. 2 - Make a backup or make a new environment if you use beadm 3 - Download the 10-STABLE source 4 - Build and install the new 10-STABLE 5 - Upgrade the packages. If you need further details let me know. Regards, Maurizio ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
how do I downgrade from 11-current to 10-stable
My desktop machine is 11-current and I want to down grade it to 10-stable how do I do this without needing a reinstall? -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: sendmail downgrade
Hello Claus Assmann and FreeBSD friends, On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 07:44:20AM -0700, Claus Assmann wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014, Willy Offermans wrote: > > > > > Note: see README file in case of errors. > > > > > > > pic -C op.me | eqn -C -Tascii | groff -Tascii -me | ul -t dumb > op.txt > > > > ul: unknown escape sequence in input: 33, 133 > > > You are so right and I had looked into the README file, as suggested. > > However I could not find a hint about the error, so therefore I > > Hmm, did you look at the right README file? Here it is: > > Known Problems with some *roff versions > > If you encounter the error: > > Unknown escape sequence in input: 33, 133 > > when trying to create op.txt then set the GROFF_NO_SGR environment > variable (see grotty(1) man page), e.g., > > csh% setenv GROFF_NO_SGR 1 > sh$ GROFF_NO_SGR=1; export GROFF_NO_SGR > > $Id: README,v 8.1 2004/07/20 20:25:10 ca Exp $ > > > > PS: if you don't need op.txt, then you can simply ignore the error. > ___ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" This is exactly what I found. I managed to compile sendmail 8.14.5, but I got the same error for e-mails with attachments. So e-mails without attachment are correctly finalised with ., but e-mail with attachment are not finalised and therefore the timeout error. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, With kind regards, Mit freundlichen Gruessen, De jrus wah, Wiel * W.K. Offermans Powered by (__) \\\'',) \/ \ ^ .\._/_) www.FreeBSD.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: sendmail downgrade
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014, Willy Offermans wrote: > > > Note: see README file in case of errors. > > > > > pic -C op.me | eqn -C -Tascii | groff -Tascii -me | ul -t dumb > op.txt > > > ul: unknown escape sequence in input: 33, 133 > You are so right and I had looked into the README file, as suggested. > However I could not find a hint about the error, so therefore I Hmm, did you look at the right README file? Here it is: Known Problems with some *roff versions If you encounter the error: Unknown escape sequence in input: 33, 133 when trying to create op.txt then set the GROFF_NO_SGR environment variable (see grotty(1) man page), e.g., csh% setenv GROFF_NO_SGR 1 sh$ GROFF_NO_SGR=1; export GROFF_NO_SGR $Id: README,v 8.1 2004/07/20 20:25:10 ca Exp $ PS: if you don't need op.txt, then you can simply ignore the error. ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: sendmail downgrade
Hello Claus Assmann, On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 07:32:28AM -0700, Claus Assmann wrote: > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014, Willy Offermans wrote: > > > You are right. The following error occurs: > > > > Note: see README file in case of errors. > > > pic -C op.me | eqn -C -Tascii | groff -Tascii -me | ul -t dumb > op.txt > > ul: unknown escape sequence in input: 33, 133 > > > I don't know what it means, if someone has an idea, please... > > How about reading the output of the command and following the advice? > > Hmm, why are we putting those instructions there? > ___ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" You are so right and I had looked into the README file, as suggested. However I could not find a hint about the error, so therefore I asked for help. Please understand me correctly, I'm using sendmail/FreeBSD for almost a decade now and I had never issues. I'm also not an expert in programming, so the error message is completely unknown to me. However I had a look into the op.me file and found the solution to compile sendmail. So thnx a lot for your advice. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, With kind regards, Mit freundlichen Gruessen, De jrus wah, Wiel * W.K. Offermans Powered by (__) \\\'',) \/ \ ^ .\._/_) www.FreeBSD.org ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: sendmail downgrade
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014, Willy Offermans wrote: > You are right. The following error occurs: > > Note: see README file in case of errors. > pic -C op.me | eqn -C -Tascii | groff -Tascii -me | ul -t dumb > op.txt > ul: unknown escape sequence in input: 33, 133 > I don't know what it means, if someone has an idea, please... How about reading the output of the command and following the advice? Hmm, why are we putting those instructions there? ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: sendmail downgrade
Hello Allan and FreeBSD friends, On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:33:10PM -0400, Allan Jude wrote: > On 2014-03-24 10:47, Willy Offermans wrote: > > Dear FreeBSD friends, > > > > I used portdowngrade, but compiling sendmail 8.14.5 throws an error > > message. So this is not a way to go! > > > > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 03:23:16PM +0100, Willy Offermans wrote: > >> Dear FreeBSD friends, > >> > >> Is there a way to downgrade sendmail to Version 8.14.5? > >> > >> -- > >> Met vriendelijke groeten, > >> With kind regards, > >> Mit freundlichen Gruessen, > >> De jrus wah, > >> > >> Wiel > >> > >> * > >> W.K. Offermans > >> ___ > >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > > > > I imagine it depends on what the error message you get is > > -- > Allan Jude > Of course, You are right. The following error occurs: Note: see README file in case of errors. pic -C op.me | eqn -C -Tascii | groff -Tascii -me | ul -t dumb > op.txt ul: unknown escape sequence in input: 33, 133 *** Error code 1 Stop. make[1]: stopped in /root/sendmail/work/sendmail-8.14.5/doc/op *** Error code 1 Stop. make: stopped in /root/sendmail I don't know what it means, if someone has an idea, please... -- Met vriendelijke groeten, With kind regards, Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Willy * W.K. Offermans ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: sendmail downgrade
On 2014-03-24 10:47, Willy Offermans wrote: > Dear FreeBSD friends, > > I used portdowngrade, but compiling sendmail 8.14.5 throws an error > message. So this is not a way to go! > > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 03:23:16PM +0100, Willy Offermans wrote: >> Dear FreeBSD friends, >> >> Is there a way to downgrade sendmail to Version 8.14.5? >> >> -- >> Met vriendelijke groeten, >> With kind regards, >> Mit freundlichen Gruessen, >> De jrus wah, >> >> Wiel >> >> * >> W.K. Offermans >> ___ >> freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > I imagine it depends on what the error message you get is -- Allan Jude signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: sendmail downgrade
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014, Willy Offermans wrote: > Is there a way to downgrade sendmail to Version 8.14.5? Why would you want to do that? Compiling the source code would be my preferred method... ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: sendmail downgrade
Dear FreeBSD friends, I used portdowngrade, but compiling sendmail 8.14.5 throws an error message. So this is not a way to go! On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 03:23:16PM +0100, Willy Offermans wrote: > Dear FreeBSD friends, > > Is there a way to downgrade sendmail to Version 8.14.5? > > -- > Met vriendelijke groeten, > With kind regards, > Mit freundlichen Gruessen, > De jrus wah, > > Wiel > > * > W.K. Offermans > ___ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- Met vriendelijke groeten, With kind regards, Mit freundlichen Gruessen, De jrus wah, Wiel * W.K. Offermans ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
sendmail downgrade
Dear FreeBSD friends, Is there a way to downgrade sendmail to Version 8.14.5? -- Met vriendelijke groeten, With kind regards, Mit freundlichen Gruessen, De jrus wah, Wiel * W.K. Offermans ___ freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: downgrade
On Fri, 25 May 2001 09:47:13 +0300, Valentin Nechayev wrote: > Wed, May 23, 2001 at 15:43:50, nk (Norbert Koch) wrote about "downgrade": > > > Is it possible to downgrade a machine from -current to -stable? > > A ~month ago I downgraded my home system from -current to -stable (RELENG_4) > via buildworld+installworld. But to do it successfully I had to > replace /usr/include with the same from working 4.2-STABLE system, > because of too many fallings of buildworld with -current headers. > Current (not -current;)) but "contemporary") world building procedure > does not exclude headers from /usr/include out of compiler view. The following procedure should work if you don't have access to a 4-STABLE system to copy includes from (assuming that you have 4-STABLE sources in /usr/src): $ cp -r /usr/include /usr/include.5 # could be useful if you will change your mind $ cd /usr/src $ make includes $ make buildworld $ make installworld $ rm -rf /usr/include.5 -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Valentin Nechayev wrote: > Current (not -current;)) but "contemporary") world building procedure > does not exclude headers from /usr/include out of compiler view. This was broken in src/Makefile.inc1 rev.1.105. /usr/include was still still needed in rev.1.104 for building cross-tools, so unportabilities in the cross-tools might have caused problems. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade
Wed, May 23, 2001 at 15:43:50, nk (Norbert Koch) wrote about "downgrade": > Is it possible to downgrade a machine from -current to -stable? A ~month ago I downgraded my home system from -current to -stable (RELENG_4) via buildworld+installworld. But to do it successfully I had to replace /usr/include with the same from working 4.2-STABLE system, because of too many fallings of buildworld with -current headers. Current (not -current;)) but "contemporary") world building procedure does not exclude headers from /usr/include out of compiler view. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Norbert Koch writes: : Is it possible to downgrade a machine from -current to -stable? make installworld Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade
Norbert Koch writes: > > Hi! > > Is it possible to downgrade a machine from -current to -stable? > Yes, it's possible, but if you've got much on your system I don't think it's worth it. I (almost) did it a couple of months ago. It's not for the faint of heart. One thing that you've got to keep in mind is the bump in shared library versions; you'll probably have to reinstall anything you built yourself or via the ports system, and make sure you've removed the -current libraries (with the higher version numbers) first. After I'd spent most of a day deinstalling and reinstalling various ports, I decided it would be a lot safer and easier to just do a binary-only install from the CD, check out the latest -stable sources, and upgrade that way. If you were tracking -current before, you've got a local copy of the repository, right :-)? That's a good argument for multiple partitions, by the way. Since I have a partition for projects, one for src (both FreeBSD and /usr/ports/distfiles), and one for my mp3s I just told sysinstall to newfs /, /usr and /var but leave /home and all the rest alone. -- Richard Kuhns [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 6249 Tel: (765)477-6000 \ 100 Sawmill Roadx319 Lafayette, IN 47903 (800)489-4891 / To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
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Hi! Is it possible to downgrade a machine from -current to -stable? Thanks, norbert. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade?
> > Dear Alfred Perlstein, > > > > > > > > >From the posts I have been reading, I seem to understand that the > > following may apply (depending on the divergence/relationship between > > -CURRENT and -STABLE): > > > > -- It may be necessary to downgrade the toolchain (e.g. binutils; > > gcc); > > -- It may be necessary to downgrade "script"utils (ie perl). > > > > > Yes you're correct there will be problems with perl, that's > why you need a 4.x machine to do the building on and that's also > why you may need several 'make -k installworld' runs to finally > get a 'make installworld' to work. Oooops, I had another problem in mind. I thought of the theoretical general problem of downgrading a -CURRENT machine in a "self-consistent" fashion (ie on the same machine). I haven't done that (so far), so I am not aware of any [other] unwanted side-effects. AFAIR, a few weeks ago, someone performed such an operation (in the first week of August or so); I read several posts about the matter. If somebody has successfully tried such an operation recently (on a PRE_SMPNG machine), s/he will be able to help Phillip. Anyway, your suggestion sounds safer. Best regards, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade?
On Sat, 7 Oct 2000, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Yes you're correct there will be problems with perl, that's > why you need a 4.x machine to do the building on and that's also > why you may need several 'make -k installworld' runs to finally > get a 'make installworld' to work. How about: sh -c "while true ; do make -k installworld && break ; done" Would this work? This is assuming that make -k returns a success (0) error code when there are no errors. Does make -k return an error code when the last command in the Makefile is successful, even if there are errors? - Donn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade?
* Salvo Bartolotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001007 12:14] wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > On 10/7/00, 12:13:28 PM, Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > regarding Re: downgrade?: > > > > * Philipp Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001007 04:08] wrote: > > > hi! > > > > > > is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable? > > > or is it better to reinstall the whole system? > > > It's possible by building a 4.x-stable system and tar'ing the > > /usr/src and /usr/obj over to your -current then doing several > > 'make -k installworld' followed by a 'make installworld' to make > > sure it's all been installed then by building a kernel using the > > "make buildkernel" method described in src/UPDATING. > > > -- > > -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." > > > > Dear Alfred Perlstein, > > > > >From the posts I have been reading, I seem to understand that the > following may apply (depending on the divergence/relationship between > -CURRENT and -STABLE): > > -- It may be necessary to downgrade the toolchain (e.g. binutils; > gcc); > -- It may be necessary to downgrade "script"utils (ie perl). > > Yes you're correct there will be problems with perl, that's why you need a 4.x machine to do the building on and that's also why you may need several 'make -k installworld' runs to finally get a 'make installworld' to work. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 10/7/00, 12:13:28 PM, Alfred Perlstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding Re: downgrade?: > * Philipp Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001007 04:08] wrote: > > hi! > > > > is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable? > > or is it better to reinstall the whole system? > It's possible by building a 4.x-stable system and tar'ing the > /usr/src and /usr/obj over to your -current then doing several > 'make -k installworld' followed by a 'make installworld' to make > sure it's all been installed then by building a kernel using the > "make buildkernel" method described in src/UPDATING. > -- > -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." Dear Alfred Perlstein, >From the posts I have been reading, I seem to understand that the following may apply (depending on the divergence/relationship between -CURRENT and -STABLE): -- It may be necessary to downgrade the toolchain (e.g. binutils; gcc); -- It may be necessary to downgrade "script"utils (ie perl). Best regards, Salvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade to stable?
On Sat, Oct 07, 2000 at 12:04:15PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > and then looking for libraries that are too new. Would one not want to keep the libraries that are too new for things in /usr/local that would need them. Since the shlib symlink will be for the "older" lib, there really isn't any problem having too new ones present. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Gnu is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade to stable?
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Philipp Huber writes: : is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable? : or is it better to reinstall the whole system? Yes. However, it is tricky and not for the feign of heart. It involves doing an install world onto the system, rebooting the stable kernel and then looking for libraries that are too new. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
downgrade to stable?
hi! is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable? or is it better to reinstall the whole system? thx Philipp To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: downgrade?
* Philipp Huber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001007 04:08] wrote: > hi! > > is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable? > or is it better to reinstall the whole system? It's possible by building a 4.x-stable system and tar'ing the /usr/src and /usr/obj over to your -current then doing several 'make -k installworld' followed by a 'make installworld' to make sure it's all been installed then by building a kernel using the "make buildkernel" method described in src/UPDATING. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
downgrade?
hi! is it possible to downgrade a freebsd-current installation to -stable? or is it better to reinstall the whole system? thx Philipp To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Re: Downgrade ????
On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 02:49:49PM -0700, william woods wrote: > OK, this is kinda a crazy questions, but..what the hell > ...snip... > How possible is it to cvsup stable ( I would blow away /uusr/src > first) and then do a make world and have a 3.2-stable system or should > I just re-install 3.2-stable? I think it would be better if you did a binary upgrade. That way you don't have to worry about build tools from CURRENT doing something funny to your 'make world'. In either case you will want to remove libraries from CURRENT not present in STABLE and any that may have had a version bump for CURRENT, ie. libfoo.so.1 in STABLE was libfoo.so.2 in CURRENT. Any ports that you compiled with c++ in CURRENT will have to be recompiled after you downgrade. Those are the types of issues I think you will run into. Doing the binary upgrade should preserve your /etc so your password database should be OK. It would of course be prudent to back up /etc anyway. Good luck. -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
Downgrade ????
OK, this is kinda a crazy questions, but..what the hell We have a production machiene that runs our internal mail server that I just inherited sysadmin'ing (the other guy quit). The problem is that it is currently running 4.0-current. I like current, I run it on my test system at home, but I don't even want to run it on a production system. How possible is it to cvsup stable ( I would blow away /uusr/src first) and then do a make world and have a 3.2-stable system or should I just re-install 3.2-stable? Understand, that this system has almost 200 user accounts for mail, so I would like to keep as much of this intact as possible. William -- E-Mail: william woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 22-Aug-99 Time: 14:46:02 This message was sent by XFMail -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message
