RE: Please review: rc file changes

1999-09-02 Thread Wood, Richard
-Original Message- From: Aled Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 September 1999 16:51 It does apply in the UK - two spaces is pretty standard. I guess this isn't an Americanism (for once!) Not everywhere in the UK, or maybe it's an age related thing. I was never taught to

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:48:59 -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: Will ports adapt easily to this? Yes. Those that already try to work around the absence of a reserved user will have to do less work. Those that run priveledged will be easier to transition to a non-priveledged state. Having ports

What to do with bin/7973 in lpd?

1999-09-02 Thread Cejka Rudolf
I tried to post this question into freebsd-current but without response from commiters some time ago. So maybe in freebsd-hackers: -- Is anybody capable to solve or fix bin/7973 in lpd? I have found the problem is still there (FreeBSD-3.2). Or am I anything missing/doing wrong? bin/7973: Bad

Re: nobody knows the answer?

1999-09-02 Thread Andy Farkas
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, David Scheidt wrote: You have almost certainly run out of file fragments. Space on FFS filesystems is allocated in the from of blocks, which are divided into fragments. These blocks are not the same as the physical disk blocks, but are a number of sequential disk

Re: Buslogic/Bustek/Storage Dimensions driver (MCA)

1999-09-02 Thread Andy Farkas
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: I've rewritten the bt_mca driver to hopefully do the right thing. I was trying to avoid excess code but I'll worry about trimming stuff down later. Get the new versions of {aha,bt}_mca.c and recompile. linking kernel bt_mca.o: In function

Re: nobody knows the answer?

1999-09-02 Thread Matthew Dillon
: filesystems is allocated in the from of blocks, which are divided into : fragments. These blocks are not the same as the physical disk blocks, but : are a number of sequential disk blocks. The default FFS block size is 8KB. : Each FFS block is subdivided into fragments. The default is 8

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 16:35:59 MST, Aaron Smith wrote: this strikes me as unecessary. anybody installing a new mta can create the necessary users and name them appropriately. This argument would get sysinstall removed from the release -- you can do without it when you're installing FreeBSD.

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 01:32:59 +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote: May I vote for NO more predefined uids/gids at all? This isn't about voting. It's about discussion. Emotional arguments and matters of personal preference aren't helpful. I think there are already too many of them. If you get out of

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 00:39:28 +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: BTW I'd still see Postfix standard in FreeBSD :-) Please don't hijack my thread. I don't want my request to get lost in another flame war about this. If you must bring that up, please do so under a different subject line. :-)

HZ changing

1999-09-02 Thread Dimitar Peikov
One question? Changing HZ in kernel config with lower than 10, for example HZ=5, stops some communications. It's true that machine goes faster to response for user activity, but some devices stop to work? Is it normal? Mitko To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe

RE: Postfix standard in FreeBSD?

1999-09-02 Thread Wood, Richard
-Original Message- From: Josef Karthauser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 September 1999 10:48 I'd like to see Postfix standard as well :) aolMe Too/aol Rich -- Rich Wood Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] To

Re: Postfix standard in FreeBSD?

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 10:48:01 +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: I'd like to see Postfix standard as well :) Thanks for the subject line change. I appreciate it. Now please make sure you've checked the archives on this issue so that anything you say this time around will be new. :-) I could save

Re: Postfix standard in FreeBSD?

1999-09-02 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 11:52:50AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 10:48:01 +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: I'd like to see Postfix standard as well :) Thanks for the subject line change. I appreciate it. Now please make sure you've checked the archives on this issue

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sheldon Hearn) writes: Actually, not. The postfix and exim ports, at least, would be taught to use the new UID when it became available in STABLE. I'm pretty sure smail and others would follow suit. Remember, _we_ control the ports and can have packages install for

MAC takeover

1999-09-02 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
Hi, IIRC some time ago there was a vivid discussion about ability to change/set MAC address of Ethernet cards. I'm faced with similar problem right now: when building high-availability configuration it would be very handy to do MAC takeover instead of IP takeover. So, my questions follow: *

Re: MAC takeover

1999-09-02 Thread Marc Nicholas
Andrzej: How about bringing up an additional logical or physical interface and spoofing the MAC address when the target machine fails? I really don't think you want to change the actual MAC address of a card...or do you? -marc

Re: MAC takeover

1999-09-02 Thread Harold Gutch
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 01:18:47PM +0200, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Hi, IIRC some time ago there was a vivid discussion about ability to change/set MAC address of Ethernet cards. I'm faced with similar problem right now: when building high-availability configuration it would be very handy to

WaveLan IEE problem

1999-09-02 Thread Richard Puga
To date I am still receiving the following error after a day or so of use on only the near side of a point to point link. wi0: init failed wi0: failed to allocate 1594 bytes on NIC wi0: tx buffer allocation failed wi0: failed to allocate 1594 bytes on NIC wi0: mgmt. buffer allocation failed

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Markus Stumpf
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 11:42:58AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: The numeric ID is not important. Neither is the name. So long as there's something that people maintaining ports can use. I've followed Solaris' lead on the choice of name, ``smtp''. The numeric id IS important. How do you think

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Andre Albsmeier once wrote: Before running soffice for the first time -- apply the trick described by Andre Albsmeier on http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=432982+436209+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-hackers/19980628.freebsd-hackers to the freshly installed

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:42:56 +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote: The numeric id IS important. How do you think NFS maintains privileges across machines? I have no idea how NFS works. :-) I _do_ know that, if machines across the network need to know about magical IDs on their peers, then it's

テレビ電話のお知らせ Info on Videophone

1999-09-02 Thread Academy Japan
こんにちわ、 これは便利! Here's a good news for you, ホテル、旅館、単身赴任、留学にも a news of the Videophone 最適なニュース! over the normal coloer telephone line. 今、世界で話題の簡単テレビ電話 All you have to do is just

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 10:08:45 -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: 3) We try to keep the ports system roughly independent of the base system, and vice-a-versa. Do you plan to make sendmail use this new mta id (is that even possible?)? It's certainly something I'd like to take a shot at, yes.

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread John Baldwin
On 02-Sep-99 Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:42:56 +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote: The numeric id IS important. How do you think NFS maintains privileges across machines? I have no idea how NFS works. :-) Time to learn. The uid/guid is only stored as a number, and this

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Mikhail Teterin
Marcel Moolenaar once wrote: I don't think this one is needed anymore ?!? It is. Without it, soffice keeps bringing up setup over and over instead of just starting the damn office. What is everybody doing? I run SO5.1 OOTB. AFAICT, there's absolutely no need for this kind

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Marcel Moolenaar once wrote: I don't think this one is needed anymore ?!? It is. Without it, soffice keeps bringing up setup over and over instead of just starting the damn office. What is everybody doing? I run SO5.1

Re: [mount.c]: Option user-patch

1999-09-02 Thread Boris Popov
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Andrew J. Korty wrote: I provided a solution via send-pr (bin/11031) over four months ago, which is, in my opinion, superior in many ways to this sysctl approach. The patch

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Tim Vanderhoek
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 04:37:11PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: It's certainly something I'd like to take a shot at, yes. Perhaps I'm going about this the wrong way. Perhaps I should first provide a knob that allows sendmail to be run non-priveledged. Once that's done, add a user for it to

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Mikhail Teterin wrote: Marcel Moolenaar once wrote: I don't think this one is needed anymore ?!? It is. Without it, soffice keeps bringing up setup over and over instead of just starting the damn office. What is everybody doing? I run SO5.1 OOTB. AFAICT, there's

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 11:06:41 -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: And then once that new user has had considerable time to settle, rip all the user/group stuff from the mta ports and change them to use an arbitrary user/group that defaults to whatever you added for sendmail. My intention was never

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Vince Vielhaber wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote: Marcel Moolenaar once wrote: I don't think this one is needed anymore ?!? It is. Without it, soffice keeps bringing up setup over and over instead of just starting the damn office. What is

Re: [mount.c]: Option user-patch

1999-09-02 Thread adrian
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Boris Popov wrote: without needing yet another setuid binary/binaries.. Well, sysctl with list of pathes for user mounts looks good. Configuration is simple and can be easliy changed at runtime. It is always better to avoid setuid'ed binaries, this is more

syslogd -a (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread Wayne Cuddy
I sent this to "questions" but did not a reply and figured I would give you guys a try.. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:12:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Wayne Cuddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: syslogd -a I am attempting to use

Re: syslogd -a (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread Mike Smith
I sent this to "questions" but did not a reply and figured I would give you guys a try.. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:12:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Wayne Cuddy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: syslogd -a I am attempting

Re: syslogd -a (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread Ben Rosengart
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Wayne Cuddy wrote: I am attempting to use syslogd on FreeBSD to log messages from a linux syslogd with little success. Is it possible to use the FBSD syslogd to log messages from other unix flavors? Yes, absolutely. What is the problem you're experiencing? -- Ben

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread brooks
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: SO5.1 installs OOTB on both -current and -stable. I suspect your -stable is not recent? Is this true for BOTH versions of the tarball? Changes where made to the distribution without any apparent changes to the website. The new changes broke

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Carpathia
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote: It is. Without it, soffice keeps bringing up setup over and over instead of just starting the damn office. I tried it on the new new StarOffice (apparently) (libs ver 517) from Sun. This fix works for the user that installs it, but when anyone else

Re: syslogd -a (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread Wayne Cuddy
I had a configuration where I was logging from linux to linux which was working. Now I have replaced the logging system with FreeBSD 3.2. I started the FreeBSD syslogd like this: syslogd -a XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX But I see no log messages from the linux system. Thanks for the help. Wayne On

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Doug
Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:42:56 +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote: The numeric id IS important. How do you think NFS maintains privileges across machines? I have no idea how NFS works. :-) I _do_ know that, if machines across the network need to know about magical IDs

Re: systat -- The alternate system clock has died...

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 01:43:32 MST, Jaye Mathisen wrote: Hmph. Fired up systat on a recently supped 3.2-stable box (aug 30). Typed :vm, and the screen cleared, it drew the labels, then sat there for a few seconds, then said: "The alternate system clock has died, reverting to pigs

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: SO5.1 installs OOTB on both -current and -stable. I suspect your -stable is not recent? Is this true for BOTH versions of the tarball? Changes where made to the distribution without any apparent changes to the

Re: [mount.c]: Option user-patch

1999-09-02 Thread Andrew J. Korty
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Andrew J. Korty wrote: I provided a solution via send-pr (bin/11031) over four months ago, which is, in my opinion, superior in many ways to this sysctl approach. The

Re: [mount.c]: Option user-patch

1999-09-02 Thread adrian
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Andrew J. Korty wrote: You realise that this kind of stuff can be done in kernelspace, without needing yet another setuid binary/binaries.. Well, sysctl with list of pathes for user mounts looks good. Configuration is simple and can be easliy changed at

Re: L440GX+ Server Board

1999-09-02 Thread Luiz Morte da Costa Junior
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Pete Mckenna wrote: ... I have also put an adaptec 2940 in them and it works as well. What is the adaptec transfer rate? I have tested with a adaptec 80Mb, and it didn't work too. The chipset is the same the AIC 7896. I'm not sure what you are asking. I havn't put

Re: [mount.c]: Option user-patch

1999-09-02 Thread Jamie Bowden
On Fri, 3 Sep 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Then all you need to do is think of a sane way to chown console devices :(floppy, cdrom, etc..) to the user when they login? Perhaps an extension :to login/xdm/whatever kde uses ? You can do this in /etc/fbtab. You already chown the console for X

Re: L440GX+ Server Board

1999-09-02 Thread Luiz Morte da Costa Junior
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Bill Fumerola wrote: On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Luiz Morte da Costa Junior wrote: The onboard NIC works like any other Intel 10/100 using fxp0, adding a asecond nic makes the onboard fxp1 (for failover purposes, I assume) I think that I don't have problem with my NIC

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
jack wrote: -rw-r--r-- 1 marcel marcel 72192512 Jul 23 11:47 so51_lnx_01.tar MD5 (so51_lnx_01.tar) = 347ffa68be6c1d7b89fd843591afb0d3 so51a_lnx_01.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 jacko user 70393856 Aug 31 15:47 so51a_lnx_01.tar (libs are all libxxx517x.so) requires jumping throught the hoops

CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Nick Sayer
Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating a delay loop. We don't require doing any such thing, and so adding it would be purely cosmetic. However, I allege that cosmetic things aren't in and of themselves evil, so long as they don't break anything in the process. I

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Keith Stevenson
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 10:40:30AM -0700, Nick Sayer wrote: Description of BogoMIPS deleted Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? I might. :-) Why exactly, except to keep up with the Linux kidz, do we need this? I recognize that this is solely a cosmetic

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Julian Elischer
There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are comparable. On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Nick Sayer wrote: Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating a delay

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread David Greenman
Description of BogoMIPS deleted Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? I might. :-) Why exactly, except to keep up with the Linux kidz, do we need this? I recognize that this is solely a cosmetic change, but one of the things I hold over the heads of the

Re: [mount.c]: Option user-patch

1999-09-02 Thread Andrew J. Korty
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Andrew J. Korty wrote: You realise that this kind of stuff can be done in kernelspace, without needing yet another setuid binary/binaries.. Well, sysctl with list of pathes for user mounts looks good. Configuration is simple and can be easliy changed

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Andrew J. Korty
Today Marcel Moolenaar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: SO5.1 installs OOTB on both -current and -stable. I suspect your -stabl e is not recent? Is this true for BOTH versions of the tarball? Changes where made to the

Re: [mount.c]: Option user-patch

1999-09-02 Thread adrian
The user would still have to know what type of filesystem is on the volume. My code tries filesystem types from a list, one by one, so the same command or desktop icon will mount a FAT, UFS, or EXT2FS floppy, for example. The system administrator can also specify default mount options on

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
"Andrew J. Korty" wrote: If it helps, I don't think you really need to unzip setup.zip. I found that setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. makes the setup program run just fine (because it actually does unzip setup.zip, but into a subdirectory of /tmp). Exactly what I always needed to do. It can't

UCB removes advertising clause

1999-09-02 Thread Brian W. Buchanan
This is apparently old news, but I don't recall seeing anything about it on the lists, and didn't hear about it until it hit Slashdot a short while ago. ftp://ftp.cs.berkeley.edu/pub/4bsd/README.Impt.License.Change: July 22, 1999 To All Licensees, Distributors of Any Version of BSD: As you

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli
jack wrote: Today Marcel Moolenaar wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: SO5.1 installs OOTB on both -current and -stable. I suspect your -stable is not recent? The fact that soffice runs setup again and again depend to a missing

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Vince Vielhaber
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: jack wrote: -rw-r--r-- 1 marcel marcel 72192512 Jul 23 11:47 so51_lnx_01.tar MD5 (so51_lnx_01.tar) = 347ffa68be6c1d7b89fd843591afb0d3 so51a_lnx_01.tar -rw-r--r-- 1 jacko user 70393856 Aug 31 15:47 so51a_lnx_01.tar (libs are

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Oliver Fromme
Nick Sayer wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating a delay loop. It's not a metric of CPU performance. It's just a meaningless number, and its relation to the actual performance of the machine is very questionable. We don't

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Wilko Bulte
As Nick Sayer wrote ... so long as they don't break anything in the process. I would like to generate a number that will hopefully be reasonably compatible with the one Linux spits out. The best method I have come up with is to have a similar (the same?) count down loop in assembler.

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Nate Williams
There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 I remember no such thing doing a 'bogomips' to compare against Linux. Certainly not in 386BSD. Nate I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are comparable. On Thu, 2

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Mike Smith: If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like "mailman" might be a start. Or "mailperson", or "postperson", or whatever. "mta" just feels a little obscure. "smtp", the first proposal is a better idea then. "mailman" (like it is used on hub)

Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable

1999-09-02 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Vince Vielhaber: There was a patch posted on the freebsd.misc newsgroup the other day for I re-posted the patch for people not running -STABLE yes. procfs that eliminates the need for the "hackery". It's supposed to be already in -current and I don't recall if it's supposed to

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Chris Costello
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Robert Sexton wrote: I'd have to agree with the "Lets be more professional" crowd. How about as a LINT option? "If you need something so banal, you can turn it on yourself" No, since it would just be useless bloat in the source tree. -- |Chris Costello [EMAIL

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Chris Costello
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Nick Sayer wrote: Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? Yes, I would. The way I interpret it, along with "useless blinking light", is as follows: BogoMIPS is but the combination of "Bogus" and an acronym for "Meaningless Indicator

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Julian Elischer
It was there... when I added the code to calibrate the delay loops originally and added the DELAY macro, it printed out the callibration factor.. (DELAY was originally a spin loop) It wasn't called 'BOGOMIPS...' On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Nate Williams wrote: There was such a thing in 386BSD

Using UDMA

1999-09-02 Thread Smc659
Im currently using FreeBSD-3.2 stable. How do you get UDMA support working under FreeBSD? Do I need FreeBSD 4-Current? Thanks, Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Milan Kopacka
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: Nick Sayer wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: Linux generates a meric of CPU performance as a byproduct of calibrating a delay loop. It's not a metric of CPU performance. It's just a meaningless number, and its relation to the actual performance

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Kurt Olsen
We have this for 586+ class machines: CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.73-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8 Seems more precise and informative. For 386/486 based hardware someone could adapt one of the numerous CPU speed

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Peter Jeremy
Sheldon Hearn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I plan to add a user ``smtp'' with UID 25 and a member of group ``mail'', for use in running non-priveledged MTA's in FreeBSD. I'd support this. I think the GID should be 25 as well. David Wolfskill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the overall idea is

Re: syslogd -a (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 12:51:49PM -0400, Wayne Cuddy wrote: I had a configuration where I was logging from linux to linux which was working. Now I have replaced the logging system with FreeBSD 3.2. I started the FreeBSD syslogd like this: syslogd -a XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX But I see no log

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are comparable. My vote is to make the number printed in parity with the number printed by

RE: Using UDMA

1999-09-02 Thread jhays
On 02-Sep-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Im currently using FreeBSD-3.2 stable. How do you get UDMA support working under FreeBSD? Do I need FreeBSD 4-Current? Thanks, Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message

Re: [mount.c]: Option user-patch

1999-09-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 03:01:26AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The user would still have to know what type of filesystem is on the volume. My code tries filesystem types from a list, one by one, so the same command or desktop icon will mount a FAT, UFS, or EXT2FS floppy, for

Re: [mount.c]: Option user-patch

1999-09-02 Thread C. Stephen Gunn
This still doesn't entirely Oops. I didn't finish that thought again after the vi -r. I meant to say that even with a modifed kernel mount() call, there are difficulties getting all of the configuration possibities into the kernel propper. (Mount Options, What FS types to try, etc). -

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Nick Sayer: Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? Yes. We are also FreeBSD users/developers because we don't follow the Linux way. Bogomips are [as it says] bogus and many people acknoledge this but far too often you see in some Linux

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Wes Peters
"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Julian Elischer wrote: There was such a thing in 386BSD and FreeBSD1.0 I certainly thing it was a worth-while thing. I'd try make the loop as similar to the Linux one so that they are comparable. My vote is to make the number printed in

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Nick Sayer: Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? Yes. We are also FreeBSD users/developers because we don't follow the Linux way. Bogomips are [as it says] bogus and many people acknoledge this

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.73-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8 Seems more precise and informative. For 386/486 based hardware someone could adapt one of the numerous CPU speed detection routines out there.

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Robert Withrow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: :- Emotional arguments and matters of personal preference aren't :- helpful. The only emotional argumentation seems to be yours. A "technical" objection was made that it seems best for ports to create whatever resources they need, and not polute base distribution with

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/19990902233418$[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: CPU: Pentium/P54C (132.73-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bfFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8 Seems more precise and informative. For 386/486 based hardware

Re: MAC takeover

1999-09-02 Thread Barrett Richardson
On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Hi, IIRC some time ago there was a vivid discussion about ability to change/set MAC address of Ethernet cards. I'm faced with similar problem right now: when building high-availability configuration it would be very handy to do MAC takeover

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Kris Kirby
Ollivier Robert wrote: According to Nick Sayer: Would anyone scream and projectile-vomit if I added this to identcpu.c? Yes. We are also FreeBSD users/developers because we don't follow the Linux way. Bogomips are [as it says] bogus and many people acknoledge this but far too often you

Re: CFD: bogomips CPU performance metric

1999-09-02 Thread Kris Kirby
Chris Costello wrote: On Thu, Sep 02, 1999, Robert Sexton wrote: I'd have to agree with the "Lets be more professional" crowd. How about as a LINT option? "If you need something so banal, you can turn it on yourself" No, since it would just be useless bloat in the source tree.

Re: StarOffice giveaway of source code

1999-09-02 Thread Marty Leisner
Didn't they actually kinda do this when they announced the availability of Solaris source code, and then that didn't really seem to materialize the first time around? Maybe my recolection of events is somewhat blurred... I remember this (under the community source code license). But

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Wes Peters
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Smith writes: : If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like : "mailman" might be a start. Or "mailperson", or "postperson", or : whatever. "mta" just feels a little obscure. postmanpete which is both

Seagate STT8000A (ATAPI/IDE) on FreeBSD? (fwd)

1999-09-02 Thread David Krinsky
I posted this to -hardware a few days ago and haven't gotten much in the way of feedback; since it sounds to me like a driver bug this seems like an appropriate forum too. Is anyone here using -any- ATAPI drive for backup? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide...this is screwy, and I

RELENG_3 and diskless booting

1999-09-02 Thread Greg Skafte
please followup only in hackers. I've Just cvsuped freebsd RELENG_3 as of this evening (~21:00 mdt) and using a rom built with etherboot 4.1b9 which has worked flawlessly for the last couple of months. Tonight I getting Searching for server... My IP xxx.yyy.zzz.www Server IP

Re: nobody knows the answer?

1999-09-02 Thread Andy Farkas
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, David Scheidt wrote: You have almost certainly run out of file fragments. Space on FFS filesystems is allocated in the from of blocks, which are divided into fragments. These blocks are not the same as the physical disk blocks, but are a number of sequential disk

Re: nobody knows the answer?

1999-09-02 Thread Matthew Dillon
: filesystems is allocated in the from of blocks, which are divided into : fragments. These blocks are not the same as the physical disk blocks, but : are a number of sequential disk blocks. The default FFS block size is 8KB. : Each FFS block is subdivided into fragments. The default is 8

Re: Buslogic/Bustek/Storage Dimensions driver (MCA)

1999-09-02 Thread Andy Farkas
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: I've rewritten the bt_mca driver to hopefully do the right thing. I was trying to avoid excess code but I'll worry about trimming stuff down later. Get the new versions of {aha,bt}_mca.c and recompile. linking kernel bt_mca.o: In function

RE: Please review: rc file changes

1999-09-02 Thread Wood, Richard
-Original Message- From: Aled Morris [mailto:al...@routers.co.uk] Sent: 01 September 1999 16:51 It does apply in the UK - two spaces is pretty standard. I guess this isn't an Americanism (for once!) Not everywhere in the UK, or maybe it's an age related thing. I was never taught to

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 20:48:59 -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: Will ports adapt easily to this? Yes. Those that already try to work around the absence of a reserved user will have to do less work. Those that run priveledged will be easier to transition to a non-priveledged state. Having ports

systat -- The alternate system clock has died...

1999-09-02 Thread Jaye Mathisen
Hmph. Fired up systat on a recently supped 3.2-stable box (aug 30). Typed :vm, and the screen cleared, it drew the labels, then sat there for a few seconds, then said: The alternate system clock has died, reverting to pigs display. However, that display shows no useful info either.

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Warner Losh
In message 199909012256.paa01...@dingo.cdrom.com Mike Smith writes: : If we do this, I hope a more obvious name is chosen; something like : mailman might be a start. Or mailperson, or postperson, or : whatever. mta just feels a little obscure. postmanpete which is both obscure and

What to do with bin/7973 in lpd?

1999-09-02 Thread Cejka Rudolf
I tried to post this question into freebsd-current but without response from commiters some time ago. So maybe in freebsd-hackers: -- Is anybody capable to solve or fix bin/7973 in lpd? I have found the problem is still there (FreeBSD-3.2). Or am I anything missing/doing wrong? bin/7973: Bad

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Wed, 01 Sep 1999 16:35:59 MST, Aaron Smith wrote: this strikes me as unecessary. anybody installing a new mta can create the necessary users and name them appropriately. This argument would get sysinstall removed from the release -- you can do without it when you're installing FreeBSD.

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 01:32:59 +0200, Markus Stumpf wrote: May I vote for NO more predefined uids/gids at all? This isn't about voting. It's about discussion. Emotional arguments and matters of personal preference aren't helpful. I think there are already too many of them. If you get out of a

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Sheldon Hearn
On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 00:39:28 +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: BTW I'd still see Postfix standard in FreeBSD :-) Please don't hijack my thread. I don't want my request to get lost in another flame war about this. If you must bring that up, please do so under a different subject line. :-)

Postfix standard in FreeBSD?

1999-09-02 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 11:44:14AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 00:39:28 +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: BTW I'd still see Postfix standard in FreeBSD :-) I'd like to see Postfix standard as well :) Joe -- Josef KarthauserFreeBSD: How many times have you

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