Thanks (was: Linux - *BSD diff)

2003-01-29 Thread arief_mulya
Dear all, Well, I've been receiving quite lots of nice and *warm* and joyful email for the thread ;-) Some quite of enlightnment (including your email, Theo, it gives me lots of enlightment, you surely is a funny guy ;-) After also lots of google clickings, I think I get the big picture of

Re: Thanks (was: Linux - *BSD diff)

2003-01-29 Thread Steve Kudlak
arief_mulya wrote: Dear all, Well, I've been receiving quite lots of nice and *warm* and joyful email for the thread ;-) Some quite of enlightnment (including your email, Theo, it gives me lots of enlightment, you surely is a funny guy ;-) After also lots of google clickings, I think

Re: Changing the Maximum Segment Size (MSS) of Kame MIP6 Free BSD4.4

2003-01-29 Thread Doug Barton
I think that you just burned all possible bridges with your rampant cross posting. At least I hope so. -- If it's moving, encrypt it. If it's not moving, encrypt it till it moves, then encrypt it some more. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe

Changing the Maximum Segment Size (MSS) of Kame MIP6 Free BSD4.4

2003-01-29 Thread Audsin
Respected Sir/ Madam I am Dev, doing my research in Centre for Telecommunications Research, King's college London. My research project involves evaluating the performance of MIP6 TCP in the presence of fragmentation and without fragmentation. I am using Kame MIP6 for Free BSD 4.4 and have

Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread David Gilbert
While I'm 100% aware of the pitfalls of such a setup, I find myself implementing linux in a cluster because it can export 5G-ish of a disk on each node to one machine that generates a gigantic filesystem. This is done with linux's network-block-device (NBD). I'd like to know if someone has

problems with Logitech iFeel MouseMan mouce

2003-01-29 Thread Dmitry S. Rzhavin
Hello! I have problems with an usb Logitech iFeel MouseMan mouce. When I connect it, boot log looks like: === uhci0: Intel 82371SB (PIIX3) USB controller port 0xe400-0xe41f irq 9 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: Intel 82371SB (PIIX3) USB controller on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI

What's the memory footprint of a set of processes?

2003-01-29 Thread James Gritton
How do I find how much memory (real and/or virtual) is being used by a set of processes, taking shared pages into account? I see per-process numbers I can use (vmspace_resident_count and vmspace_swap_count), and overall usage numbers exist, but I can't find a better way of measuring multiple

Re: What's the memory footprint of a set of processes?

2003-01-29 Thread Julian Elischer
check out /proc/PID/map for a really detailed map of the process. On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, James Gritton wrote: How do I find how much memory (real and/or virtual) is being used by a set of processes, taking shared pages into account? I see per-process numbers I can use (vmspace_resident_count

Re: What's the memory footprint of a set of processes?

2003-01-29 Thread James Gritton
Julian Elischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: check out /proc/PID/map for a really detailed map of the process. That looks good for a single process, suffers from the problem I'm having. For example, if I run a program that simply mallocs a chumk of memory and reads through it (to map it all

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, David Gilbert wrote: While I'm 100% aware of the pitfalls of such a setup, I find myself implementing linux in a cluster because it can export 5G-ish of a disk on each node to one machine that generates a gigantic filesystem. This is done with linux's network-block-device

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread David Gilbert
Matthew == Matthew N Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, David Gilbert wrote: While I'm 100% aware of the pitfalls of such a setup, I find myself implementing linux in a cluster because it can export 5G-ish of a disk on each node to one machine that generates a

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, David Gilbert wrote: but that would be no different than using the nfs directly. mdconfig won't aggregate several chunks of files ... and last I checked md wasn't entirely happy with nfs (some form of chicken-and-egg problem) So use vinum, CCD or add the files as swap and

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread David Gilbert
Matthew == Matthew N Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew So use vinum, CCD or add the files as swap and make a Matthew swap-backed filesystem. Matthew No reason to invent a totally new low level filesystem here. Actually, I can see that working ... but it's going to be a whole lot less

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, David Gilbert wrote: As I understand, NBD is just a little driver that lets you mount foo:/dev/ad0s1g over the network and proxies the block transactions across. Right, you still have to stripe/mirror on the client side though. I don't think it will be all that bad. Any

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread David Gilbert
Matthew == Matthew N Dodd [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, David Gilbert wrote: As I understand, NBD is just a little driver that lets you mount foo:/dev/ad0s1g over the network and proxies the block transactions across. Matthew Right, you still have to stripe/mirror on

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, David Gilbert wrote: it doesn't work that way. the result of NBD is a /dev/nbd0 not a filesystem. Block 0 of /dev/nbd0 is block 0 of /dev/hda1 (say). nbd runs as a server on the node with the disk and as a client on the node using the disk. Yes, you still stripe on the

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread phk
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew N. Dodd writes: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, David Gilbert wrote: it doesn't work that way. the result of NBD is a /dev/nbd0 not a filesystem. Block 0 of /dev/nbd0 is block 0 of /dev/hda1 (say). nbd runs as a server on the node with the disk and as a client on

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Matthew N. Dodd writes: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, David Gilbert wrote: So involving NFS isn't really going to make that much of a difference. Yes, it sure would. nfs1:/foo/foo1 - md1 nfs2:/foo/foo2 - md2 ccd0 64 none md1

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: IMO NBD is less of a hack than you think it is. It is one of the necessary components for creating a single system image from a cluster of commodity hardware and this is something Linux developers are working earnestly on. They're targeting a

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Julian Elischer
geom meets netgraph.. :-) You could possibly do something with the ng_device node that exports a device into teh dev namesapce from netgraph. (the version in the tree is curently broken, the author is rewrituing it..) Adding a geom top-end to it might give you something quite cute.. On Thu,

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Julian Elischer wrote: geom meets netgraph.. :-) You could possibly do something with the ng_device node that exports a device into teh dev namesapce from netgraph. (the version in the tree is curently broken, the author is rewrituing it..) Adding a geom top-end to it

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Terry Lambert
Matthew N. Dodd wrote: They should really look at Sprite. (And anyone thats doing clustering and not looking at VMS deserves what they get.) On a real cluster running a single image all all the drives would just show up. There wouldn't be any hacking going on. Stuff like this kind of

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Matthew N. Dodd
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: And anyone that's doing clustering and things that it can't be done on a 32 bit machine, and not looking at the VAX, which runs VMS, deserves what they get. ...Sorry, had to be said... 8-). If we were talking about clustering 32 bit machines with

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 06:06:20PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: What you really want is SCSI over IP. Anything else is just a hack and not to be trusted. I think that NFS is less of a hack than NBD though. IMO NBD is less of a hack than you think it is. It is one of the necessary

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 12:13:26AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NBD wouldn't be hard to implement on FreeBSD, the easiest way would be to write two GEOM modules to do it: a client and a server. No, I don't have time to do that right now, but I will happily guide anybody who wants to

Re: Network block device.

2003-01-29 Thread Brandon D. Valentine
On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 09:44:59PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: If we were talking about clustering 32 bit machines with less than 128mb of memory each that would be true. I suppose you could use some sort of PAE to allow every cluster member's address space to be mapped but a 64 bit

Re: What's the memory footprint of a set of processes?

2003-01-29 Thread David Schultz
Thus spake James Gritton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: The object's ref_count hasn't changed, which is what I meant about seeing reference counts in the kernel that were apparently not counting what I'm looking for. I did see a ref_count increase on the first object (presumably the text image), but

Re: What's the memory footprint of a set of processes?

2003-01-29 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Thus spake James Gritton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: : The object's ref_count hasn't changed, which is what I meant about seeing : reference counts in the kernel that were apparently not counting what I'm : looking for. I did see a ref_count increase on the first object : (presumably the text image),

Re: Changing the Maximum Segment Size (MSS) of Kame MIP6 FreeBSD4.4

2003-01-29 Thread Terry Lambert
Audsin wrote: I am Dev, doing my research in Centre for Telecommunications Research, King's college London. My research project involves evaluating the performance of MIP6 TCP in the presence of fragmentation and without fragmentation. I am using Kame MIP6 for Free BSD 4.4 and have configured