Re: Overwrite an executable file that is running

1999-07-07 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Zhihui Zhang) writes: For a big executable file that is being run by the OS, all its contents may not be loaded into the memory. At the same time, the developer gets impatient and wants to create a new version of the same file. He could modify the makefile to output the

PCCARD Installation

1999-07-07 Thread Ettikan Kandasamy
Hello, I'm trying to install 3Com Fast Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX (model 3CCFE575BT-D) into my Dell laptop-freeBSD 2.2.8. Could some one help me with the setup/installation procedure. I tried modifying the GENERIC file for the kernel and /etc/pccard* files. But did not succeed. 1) Does

howto allocate 32k phys. mem-space in driver ?

1999-07-07 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis
Hi, perhaps i don't see the wood for trees. I'd like to write a driver for a PCI ISDN chipset which uses a 32k byte memory window as a sort of "dual ported ram" in the memory address space. What has to be done in the driver attach routine is - allocate a 32k contingous memory window - get

Re: PCCARD Installation

1999-07-07 Thread Greg Lehey
[following up to -questions; -hardware and -hackers are not appropriate for this question] On Wednesday, 7 July 1999 at 15:47:29 +0900, Ettikan Kandasamy wrote: I'm trying to install 3Com Fast Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX (model 3CCFE575BT-D) into my Dell laptop-freeBSD 2.2.8. Could some

Re: Searching the Handbook (was Re: 'rtfm script')

1999-07-07 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:57:08PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: There are a couple of ways you could do it. Some of them more optimal than others. Executive summary: sgrep is probably your best choice now, which can can be found at

Re: PCCARD Installation

1999-07-07 Thread Takeshi OHASHI
ettikan I'm trying to install 3Com Fast Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX (model ettikan3CCFE575BT-D) into my Dell laptop-freeBSD 2.2.8. Could some one help me with the ettikansetup/installation procedure. If the card is CardBus card, it would not be use on a normal FreeBSD box. FreeBSD-2.2.8 and

Re: README.serial update?

1999-07-07 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 07:20:10PM +0900, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: From time to time people ask questions about the serial console. As README.serial is buried deep inside the kernel source tree, it's almost time to have a decent text on the serial console in our handbook. I am reformatting

Call for testers: SysKonnect gigabit ethernet driver

1999-07-07 Thread Bill Paul
This is a call for testers for yet another gigabit ethernet driver. If you happen to have a SysKonnect gigabit ethernet server adapter and want to use it with FreeBSD, then please try the driver code at: http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/SysKonnect Currently I only have a driver for FreeBSD 3.0 and

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-07-07 Thread Mike Smith
Back to -hackers, I've been using and (many times, by necessity) administering UNIX systems since '86. It seems to me that having points within "privileged" code where the OS could invoke site-supplied code on the way in (so the site-supplied code would be able to examine, and possibly

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On 07 Jul 1999 20:57:16 +0200 Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't use err() indiscriminately after a malloc() failure; malloc() doesn't set errno. This is a bug in malloc(3), is it not? -- Jason R. Thorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
[accidentally b0rked the cc: line; apologies to those who get this twice] Jason Thorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 07 Jul 1999 20:57:16 +0200 Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't use err() indiscriminately after a malloc() failure; malloc() doesn't set errno. This is a

Re: Repalcement for grep(1)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Jamie Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: There are two special cases- of bracket expressions: the bracket expressions `[[::]]' and `[[::]]' match the null string at the beginning and end of a word respectively. Perhaps this

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Jamie Howard
On 7 Jul 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: BTW, I assume you've read this: URL:http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xcu/grep.html Of course, my copy of the printout is all marked up. :) I see you switched to using extended regexps by default, and made -E a no-op; this breaks

Re: Repalcement for grep(1)

1999-07-07 Thread Jamie Howard
On 7 Jul 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Jamie Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: There are two special cases- of bracket expressions: the bracket expressions `[[::]]' and `[[::]]' match the null string at the beginning

Re: Repalcement for grep(1)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
BTW, the end-of-line handling is wrong; grep will fail to select a line where the pattern appears at the end and the line is not terminated by a newline. I'm working on a fix (and on implementing my solution for -w and -x). DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe: send

Berkeley DB question

1999-07-07 Thread User Joe
Is the berkeley db (or any other small db) multi user safe? Are there locks to maintain coherency of multiple processes access the same database files? Thanks, Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Assar Westerlund
Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - if ((realpat = malloc(strlen(pattern) + sizeof("^(") + - sizeof(")$") + 1)) == NULL) - err(1, "malloc"); + realpat = grep_malloc(strlen(pattern) + sizeof("^(") +

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Assar Westerlund [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smorgrav [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: + realpat = grep_malloc(strlen(pattern) + sizeof("^(") + + sizeof(")$") + 1); Why not just use asprintf? Doesn't matter, thsis code is gone in the latest version. You

Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Jay Kuri
Good Afternoon, I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for some time. I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management adapters. In most of my machines, they don't work. Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very clearly

Terminal CTRL-C processing...

1999-07-07 Thread Brian J. McGovern
This is a dumb question, but I've been trying to hack on it all day, and I'm getting frustrated, so I want throw this in the air for comment... I'm putting the finishing touches on a second revision of the Cyclades Z driver. Its pretty much there, except for when you hit CTRL-C with a shell

Re: The busspace modernization initiative.

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Wemm
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do ug Rabson writes: : This seems to bypass the nexus completely which isn't right. It wouldn't : detect conflicts between bus_space_alloc and the new-bus resource apis : since it has its own instances of struct rman. This is true.

Re: docs/12377: doc patch for login_cap.

1999-07-07 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:06:26AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:56:17 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: I'm unfamiliar with the ins and outs of the login_cap system. Could someone who is versed in it please take a look at this PR (text included) and let me know whether or

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-07 Thread Wes Peters
Bill Fumerola wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: Thanks! But still, I don't think rtfm is very appropriate... Can we look for something better, more obvious? Or perhaps it would be in the motd like /stand/sysinstall is people would need to be aware of this. it

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If this could result in a smaller overall structure, it may be worth it. To really make the combined structure smaller we would also have to pair-down the fields in both structures. For example,

ARP breakage

1999-07-07 Thread Jasper O'Malley
I haven't gotten much of a response in -stable, so I'll ask here. Any one know what happened to proxy ARP in recent incarnations of 3.2-STABLE? See problem report bin/12448, but in a nutshell: # ifconfig ed1 ed1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-07 Thread Mark J. Taylor
Put it in the ".login" or /etc/csh.login (etc.) file. They'll see it every time they log in. -Mark Taylor NetMAX Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.netmax.com/ Wes Peters wrote: Bill Fumerola wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: Thanks! But still, I don't think

Re: Berkeley DB question

1999-07-07 Thread Tony Finch
User Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the berkeley db (or any other small db) multi user safe? Are there locks to maintain coherency of multiple processes access the same database files? The web pages for Berkeley DB 2 claim that it does (note version 2, not 1.85 as shipped with FreeBSD).

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-07 Thread Don Lewis
On Jul 4, 5:35pm, "Jonathan M. Bresler" wrote: } Subject: Re: Pictures from USENIX } beards are great...women love them, getting fluffed is much } better than getting scratchedkids love them. brush the beard } whenever you brush your hair. dont hae to deal with a buzzing razor, }

Re: DVD-ram

1999-07-07 Thread ycheng
In article 199907070339.vaa88...@panzer.kdm.org you wrote: 3.5 650MB and 1.3GB MO drives should handle 512KB/sector(128MB, 230MB, 540MB) and 2048KB/sector media(640MB, 1.3GB). The CAM DA driver was specifically designed to handle various sector sizes, and should work fine with non-512 byte

Re: Overwrite an executable file that is running

1999-07-07 Thread Ville-Pertti Keinonen
zzh...@cs.binghamton.edu (Zhihui Zhang) writes: For a big executable file that is being run by the OS, all its contents may not be loaded into the memory. At the same time, the developer gets impatient and wants to create a new version of the same file. He could modify the makefile to

PCCARD Installation

1999-07-07 Thread Ettikan Kandasamy
Hello, I'm trying to install 3Com Fast Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX (model 3CCFE575BT-D) into my Dell laptop-freeBSD 2.2.8. Could some one help me with the setup/installation procedure. I tried modifying the GENERIC file for the kernel and /etc/pccard* files. But did not succeed. 1) Does

howto allocate 32k phys. mem-space in driver ?

1999-07-07 Thread Hellmuth Michaelis
Hi, perhaps i don't see the wood for trees. I'd like to write a driver for a PCI ISDN chipset which uses a 32k byte memory window as a sort of dual ported ram in the memory address space. What has to be done in the driver attach routine is - allocate a 32k contingous memory window - get the

Re: Dynamic linking

1999-07-07 Thread Andrew Iltchenko
How clever Jhon. I know that a void function cannot return a value, the same is also true of destructors and constractors, to be exact. I asked, how I can make dlopen return an error from the shared object's _init function, and not what value I should return from the void function to fail

Re: PCCARD Installation

1999-07-07 Thread Greg Lehey
[following up to -questions; -hardware and -hackers are not appropriate for this question] On Wednesday, 7 July 1999 at 15:47:29 +0900, Ettikan Kandasamy wrote: I'm trying to install 3Com Fast Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX (model 3CCFE575BT-D) into my Dell laptop-freeBSD 2.2.8. Could some

Re: DVD-ram

1999-07-07 Thread Takeshi OHASHI
ychengIn article 199907070339.vaa88...@panzer.kdm.org you wrote: ycheng 3.5 650MB and 1.3GB MO drives should handle 512KB/sector(128MB, ycheng 230MB, 540MB) and 2048KB/sector media(640MB, 1.3GB). Ofcouse, my typo: 512KB/sector - 512B/sector, 2048KB/sector - 2048B/sector ycheng The CAM DA driver

Re: Searching the Handbook (was Re: 'rtfm script')

1999-07-07 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 04:57:08PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 1999, Nik Clayton wrote: There are a couple of ways you could do it. Some of them more optimal than others. Executive summary: sgrep is probably your best choice now, which can can be found at

Re: PCCARD Installation

1999-07-07 Thread Takeshi OHASHI
ettikan I'm trying to install 3Com Fast Ethernet 10/100 Base-TX (model ettikan3CCFE575BT-D) into my Dell laptop-freeBSD 2.2.8. Could some one help me with the ettikansetup/installation procedure. If the card is CardBus card, it would not be use on a normal FreeBSD box. FreeBSD-2.2.8 and

Re: Improved libcrypt ready for testing

1999-07-07 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: Say... you wouldn't like to impliment an NT-style password hash, would you? This is actually very easy, it turns out - the NT hash is just an MD4 over the unicode version of the password, which is (for the default english locale or whatever you call it),

Re: README.serial update?

1999-07-07 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 07:20:10PM +0900, Kazutaka YOKOTA wrote: From time to time people ask questions about the serial console. As README.serial is buried deep inside the kernel source tree, it's almost time to have a decent text on the serial console in our handbook. I am reformatting

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-07-07 Thread David Wolfskill
From: John W. DeBoskey j...@unx.sas.com Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1999 22:27:39 -0400 (EDT) This part may well actually be relevant to -hackers (albeit in a way that will probably seem heretical to some): Never underestimate the power of good user exits and the ability to implement your own External

Call for testers: SysKonnect gigabit ethernet driver

1999-07-07 Thread Bill Paul
This is a call for testers for yet another gigabit ethernet driver. If you happen to have a SysKonnect gigabit ethernet server adapter and want to use it with FreeBSD, then please try the driver code at: http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/SysKonnect Currently I only have a driver for FreeBSD 3.0 and

Re: DVD-ram

1999-07-07 Thread Takeshi OHASHI
ken I am a beta tester of the new od driver. It almost works fine on some ken beta testers system, but we cannot redistribute without Mr. Akiyama's ken permit. ken kenOf course. Well, if he doesn't mind, I'd like to take a look at it at some kenpoint. He is preparing the review version of

Re: DVD-ram

1999-07-07 Thread Kenneth D. Merry
Takeshi OHASHI wrote... ken I am a beta tester of the new od driver. It almost works fine on some ken beta testers system, but we cannot redistribute without Mr. Akiyama's ken permit. ken kenOf course. Well, if he doesn't mind, I'd like to take a look at it at some kenpoint. He is

Re: Connect and so on..

1999-07-07 Thread Mike Smith
Back to -hackers, I've been using and (many times, by necessity) administering UNIX systems since '86. It seems to me that having points within privileged code where the OS could invoke site-supplied code on the way in (so the site-supplied code would be able to examine, and possibly

Re: Pictures from USENIX

1999-07-07 Thread David Wolfskill
From: Wilko Bulte wi...@yedi.iaf.nl Date: Sun, 4 Jul 1999 19:06:48 +0200 (CEST) Proves my statement that it is unwise to assume the looks of people from their E-mail. :-) Which makes a good case for a permanent picture gallery @ www.freebsd.org I guess. I can donate a bunch of pictures taken

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Jamie Howard howar...@wam.umd.edu writes: Due to the number of fixes I have received over the past few days, I decided to put together a new release of grep. It was either this or watch _Titanic_ on Cinemax. A clear-cut choice. I changed it so that even when called as grep or with -G, it

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Jamie Howard howar...@wam.umd.edu writes: Ahh, this is a good idea. I have not yet replaced GNU grep on my system with this so it has not yet occurred to me that there might be issues with that. I tried it; it works fine except for the lack of -w. Haven't tried 0.3 yet. A good test is to

Re: support for i386 hardware debug watch points

1999-07-07 Thread Brian Dean
Hi, (I've CC'd -current because of the implications there ...) Here are my patches for hardware debug register support for the i386 port. I think this is ready to be reviewed and hopefully committed. It consists of modifications to 13 files and the addition of 1 new file. The new file is

Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
Ok, but for a kernel hacker this *should* be funny. My system locked up because it had too much memory. Specifically, there is a contrived limit to the size of the kernel malloc pool of 40MB, and 80MB for the entire pool based on VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX. Unfortunately, if you have

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Jamie Howard howar...@wam.umd.edu writes: I incorporated a huge patch from Dag-Erling Smorgrav [...] Here's more :) BTW, I assume you've read this: URL:http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xcu/grep.html I see you switched to using extended regexps by default, and made -E a no-op;

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On 07 Jul 1999 20:57:16 +0200 Dag-Erling Smorgrav d...@flood.ping.uio.no wrote: Don't use err() indiscriminately after a malloc() failure; malloc() doesn't set errno. This is a bug in malloc(3), is it not? -- Jason R. Thorpe thor...@nas.nasa.gov To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
[accidentally b0rked the cc: line; apologies to those who get this twice] Jason Thorpe thor...@nas.nasa.gov writes: On 07 Jul 1999 20:57:16 +0200 Dag-Erling Smorgrav d...@flood.ping.uio.no wrote: Don't use err() indiscriminately after a malloc() failure; malloc() doesn't set errno.

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Dag-Erling Smorgrav d...@flood.ping.uio.no writes: Jamie Howard howar...@wam.umd.edu writes: I incorporated a huge patch from Dag-Erling Smorgrav [...] Here's more :) Following up on myself, I introduced a bug in the previous round of patches; here's a corrected patch against 0.3. (the bug

Re: Repalcement for grep(1)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Jamie Howard howar...@wam.umd.edu writes: On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: There are two special cases- of bracket expressions: the bracket expressions `[[::]]' and `[[::]]' match the null string at the beginning and end of a word respectively. Perhaps this

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Jamie Howard
On 7 Jul 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: BTW, I assume you've read this: URL:http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/007908799/xcu/grep.html Of course, my copy of the printout is all marked up. :) I see you switched to using extended regexps by default, and made -E a no-op; this breaks

Re: howto allocate 32k phys. mem-space in driver ?

1999-07-07 Thread Jonathan Lemon
In article local.mail.freebsd-hackers/m111mgq-...@bert.kts.org you write: Hi, perhaps i don't see the wood for trees. I'd like to write a driver for a PCI ISDN chipset which uses a 32k byte memory window as a sort of dual ported ram in the memory address space. What has to be done in the

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Jamie Howard howar...@wam.umd.edu writes: On 7 Jul 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: I see you switched to using extended regexps by default, and made -E a no-op; this breaks the ports collection, so I changed it back. The FreeBSD, NetBSD, and OpenBSD manpage for grep says this:

Re: Repalcement for grep(1)

1999-07-07 Thread Jamie Howard
On 7 Jul 1999, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Jamie Howard howar...@wam.umd.edu writes: On Sun, 4 Jul 1999, Archie Cobbs wrote: There are two special cases- of bracket expressions: the bracket expressions `[[::]]' and `[[::]]' match the null string at the beginning

Re: Repalcement for grep(1)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Jamie Howard howar...@wam.umd.edu writes: I am not the internationalization expert, but doesn't [^A-Za-z] and [A-Xa-z$] limit you to just English and other Roman languages? Won't [[::]] and [[::]] be languages independent, presuming regex supports it? They don't DTRT. They only match

Re: Repalcement for grep(1)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
BTW, the end-of-line handling is wrong; grep will fail to select a line where the pattern appears at the end and the line is not terminated by a newline. I'm working on a fix (and on implementing my solution for -w and -x). DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - d...@flood.ping.uio.no To Unsubscribe:

Berkeley DB question

1999-07-07 Thread User Joe
Is the berkeley db (or any other small db) multi user safe? Are there locks to maintain coherency of multiple processes access the same database files? Thanks, Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Assar Westerlund
Dag-Erling Smorgrav d...@flood.ping.uio.no writes: - if ((realpat = malloc(strlen(pattern) + sizeof(^() + - sizeof()$) + 1)) == NULL) - err(1, malloc); + realpat = grep_malloc(strlen(pattern) + sizeof(^() +

Re: Replacement for grep(1) (part 2)

1999-07-07 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Assar Westerlund as...@sics.se writes: Dag-Erling Smorgrav d...@flood.ping.uio.no writes: + realpat = grep_malloc(strlen(pattern) + sizeof(^() + + sizeof()$) + 1); Why not just use asprintf? Doesn't matter, thsis code is gone in the latest version. You

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-07 Thread Bill Fumerola
On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: Thanks! But still, I don't think rtfm is very appropriate... Can we look for something better, more obvious? Or perhaps it would be in the motd like /stand/sysinstall is people would need to be aware of this. it can be called anything. the new

Re: Budget on user-ppp

1999-07-07 Thread dannyman
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 12:20:00AM +0200, Leif Neland wrote: It could be nice with some sort of budget control in ppp. A few days ago I found out bb caused a dialup every 5 minutes. Today I found I had been online 27 hours uninterrupted. Some dialup-routers allows a setup of max a connects/b

Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Jay Kuri
Good Afternoon, I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for some time. I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management adapters. In most of my machines, they don't work. Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very clearly some

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
Since we have increased the hard page table allocation for the kernel to 1G (?) we should be able to safely increase VM_KMEM_SIZE_MAX. I was thinking of increasing it to 512MB. This increase only effects large-memory systems. It keeps them from locking up :-) Anyone have

Terminal CTRL-C processing...

1999-07-07 Thread Brian J. McGovern
This is a dumb question, but I've been trying to hack on it all day, and I'm getting frustrated, so I want throw this in the air for comment... I'm putting the finishing touches on a second revision of the Cyclades Z driver. Its pretty much there, except for when you hit CTRL-C with a shell I

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
: : Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB :KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network :buffers and other map regions. : :-DG : :David Greenman :Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
Good Afternoon, I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for some time. I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management adapters. In most of my machines, they don't work. Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very clearly some

Re: The busspace modernization initiative.

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Wemm
Warner Losh wrote: In message pine.bsf.4.10.9907042236480.54036-100...@salmon.nlsystems.com Do ug Rabson writes: : This seems to bypass the nexus completely which isn't right. It wouldn't : detect conflicts between bus_space_alloc and the new-bus resource apis : since it has its own

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
: Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB :KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network :buffers and other map regions. : :-DG : :David Greenman :Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org :Creator

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:limit ought to work for a 4G machine : :Since most of those news files were small, I think Kirk's news test code :is pretty much the worse case scenario as far as vnode allocation goes. : : Well, I could possibly live with 256MB, but the vnode/fsnode consumption :seems to be getting

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Jeremy
David Greenman wrote: Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network buffers and other map regions. Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: What would be an acceptable upper

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:It appears we're rapidly approaching the point where 32-bits isn't :enough. We could increase KVA - but that cuts into process VM space :(and a large machine is likely to have large processes). True, though what we are talking about here is scaling issue with main memory. We should be

Re: docs/12377: doc patch for login_cap.

1999-07-07 Thread Nik Clayton
On Tue, Jul 06, 1999 at 08:06:26AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Mon, 05 Jul 1999 23:56:17 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: I'm unfamiliar with the ins and outs of the login_cap system. Could someone who is versed in it please take a look at this PR (text included) and let me know whether or

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread David Greenman
:limit ought to work for a 4G machine : :Since most of those news files were small, I think Kirk's news test code :is pretty much the worse case scenario as far as vnode allocation goes. : : Well, I could possibly live with 256MB, but the vnode/fsnode consumption :seems to be getting

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-07 Thread Wes Peters
Bill Fumerola wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 1999, Brian F. Feldman wrote: Thanks! But still, I don't think rtfm is very appropriate... Can we look for something better, more obvious? Or perhaps it would be in the motd like /stand/sysinstall is people would need to be aware of this. it can

Re: Berkeley DB question

1999-07-07 Thread Wes Peters
User Joe wrote: Is the berkeley db (or any other small db) multi user safe? Are there locks to maintain coherency of multiple processes access the same database files? No. I've heard that Cygnus newlib has a thread-safe version of db or dbm, but haven't checked it out myself. It may bear

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Matthew Dillon wrote: :limit ought to work for a 4G machine : :Since most of those news files were small, I think Kirk's news test code :is pretty much the worse case scenario as far as vnode allocation goes. : : Well, I could possibly live with 256MB,

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
: We've been here before, a couple of times. This started to become an issue :when the limits were removed and has gotten worse as the vnode and fsnode :structs have grown over time. We're running into some limits on how much :space we can give to the kernel since there are a number of folks

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:or do what Kirk wants to do and merge the VM and Vnode structures :I belive the UVM does a bit in this direction due to kirk's influence. : :julian If this could result in a smaller overall structure, it may be worth it. To really make the combined structure smaller we would also have to

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Julian Elischer jul...@whistle.com wrote: or do what Kirk wants to do and merge the VM and Vnode structures I belive the UVM does a bit in this direction due to kirk's influence. A uvm_object is not a standalone thing in UVM. Every thing that's

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Jason Thorpe wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 16:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Julian Elischer jul...@whistle.com wrote: or do what Kirk wants to do and merge the VM and Vnode structures I belive the UVM does a bit in this direction due to kirk's influence. A uvm_object is not a

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: If this could result in a smaller overall structure, it may be worth it. To really make the combined structure smaller we would also have to pair-down the fields in both structures. For

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Peter Wemm
Jason Thorpe wrote: On Wed, 7 Jul 1999 17:03:16 -0700 (PDT) Matthew Dillon dil...@apollo.backplane.com wrote: If this could result in a smaller overall structure, it may be worth i t. To really make the combined structure smaller we would also have to pair-down the

Re: Sony Z505S [was: USB floppy booting]

1999-07-07 Thread Andrew Heybey
Ollivier Robert robe...@keltia.freenix.fr writes: Do we support booting from USB floppies ? I plan to buy one of the new VAIOs (probably the Z505S with Celeron/333 + 64 MB + 12.1 screen) and it seems to come with an USB floppy (as opposed to the probably-IDE of former models). They've

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Jason Thorpe
On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:36:19 +0800 Peter Wemm pe...@netplex.com.au wrote: Out of curiosity, how does it handle the problem of small 512 byte directories? Does it consume a whole page or does it do something smarter? Or does the ubc work apply to read/write only and the filesystem itself

ARP breakage

1999-07-07 Thread Jasper O'Malley
I haven't gotten much of a response in -stable, so I'll ask here. Any one know what happened to proxy ARP in recent incarnations of 3.2-STABLE? See problem report bin/12448, but in a nutshell: # ifconfig ed1 ed1: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 192.168.54.1

Re: Problem with fxp driver and 82559 cards

1999-07-07 Thread Oliver Banta
I have been using the Intel EtherExpress Pro 10/100B cards for some time. I just recieved a batch of the Intel Pro/100+ management adapters. In most of my machines, they don't work. Everything I can find says they should be compatible, but there are very clearly some problems.

Re: ARP breakage

1999-07-07 Thread Justin C. Walker
From: Jasper O'Malley jo...@webnology.com Date: 1999-07-07 17:49:24 -0700 To: hack...@freebsd.org Subject: ARP breakage Delivered-to: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I haven't gotten much of a response in -stable, so I'll ask here. Any one know what happened to proxy

Someone want to add support for computer radio scaners?

1999-07-07 Thread Mike Del
Hello All, I was just looking at http://www.winradio.com/ and was thinking that it would be a nice addition to FreeBSD. I don't own one of the cards, otherwise I would have started to see what I could do. But if anyone out there has one/has access to one, it would be interesting to add into

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:The way this is done in the still-in-development branch of NetBSD's :unified buffer cache is to basically elimiate the old buffer cache :interface for vnode read/write completely. When you want to do that :sort of I/O to a vnode, you simply map a window of the object into :KVA space (via

sysctl question

1999-07-07 Thread Brian F. Feldman
How do I set up a sysctl so that I may pass in a two pointers: one to pass in some data another to receive some data ? Is it possible? Otherwise, I think I should just do something with passing in an arbitrary data buffer (pointer to, rather) which contains the data necessary on

Re: Heh heh, humorous lockup

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:On Thu, 08 Jul 1999 08:36:19 +0800 : Peter Wemm pe...@netplex.com.au wrote: : : Out of curiosity, how does it handle the problem of small 512 byte : directories? Does it consume a whole page or does it do something smarter? : Or does the ubc work apply to read/write only and the filesystem

Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 8 July 1999 at 9:26:09 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: David Greenman wrote: Yes, I do - at least with the 512MB figure. That would be half of the 1GB KVA space and large systems really need that space for things like network buffers and other map regions. Matthew Dillon

Re: Bursting at the seams (was: Heh heh, humorous lockup)

1999-07-07 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Why not put the kernel in a different address space? IIRC there's no :absolute requirement for the kernel and userland to be in the same :address space, and that way we would have 4 GB for each. : :Greg No, the syscall overhead is way too high if we have to mess with MMU context. This

Re: ARP breakage

1999-07-07 Thread Jasper O'Malley
On Wed, 7 Jul 1999, Justin C. Walker wrote: Out of curiosity, what does 'arp -a' show after the 'arp -s' command? Same thing it shows before the arp -s attempt, as does netstat -nr :( For the record, regular arp -s commands without the pub parameter (i.e. static ARP cache entries, no

Rewriting pca(4) using finetimer(9) (was: Re: MPU401 now works under New Midi Driver Framework with a Fine Timer)

1999-07-07 Thread Seigo Tanimura
Another idea has come to my mind... pca(4) currently uses acquire_timer0(), which changes the timer frequency directly, breaking finetimer(9). I am considering to move acquire_timer0()s in pca(4) to finetimer(9), so that pca(4) comes to work again. Furthermore, we can get rid of acquire_timer0()

Re: The busspace modernization initiative.

1999-07-07 Thread Warner Losh
In message 19990707230648.d771...@overcee.netplex.com.au Peter Wemm writes: : At the very least it must use the real resource lists, not a second copy. : That probably means that nexus.c itself would have to export these functions. Yes. Or that bus_space_*map would live in nexus.c. : At the

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