On 2006-07-21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This problem is also present in 6.0. Why haven't a whole bunch of
people already run into it? Am I the only person still using a
parallel port printer and (at first) a generic kernel?
I use parallel printers under 6.0 and 6.1 on i386 and amd64
generic
to use elevated securelevels.
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Sergey Babkin wrote:
To mention it from the start, I've backed out my changes.
Thank you.
There are other things which may not allow a job to finish in
a predefined time slot. For example, other operations going on
and consuming CPU, disk or network bandwidth. So presuming
that a job
Ronald G Minnich wrote:
I am sorry I brought this up without a URL :-(
I'm working on it.
Chuck Cranor's home page: http://www.ccrc.wustl.edu/pub/chuck/
His dissertation (for his D.Sc., not Ph.D.), "The Design and
Implementation of the UVM Virtual Memory System", is a large
(270 page)
I've been trying to lookup ftp.FreeBSD.org for the last couple
of hours and getting timeouts and other silly stuff.
Can anybody give me an IP address please?
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"Dan Langille" wrote:
On 31 Jan 2001, at 13:51, Greg Black wrote:
Can you name one? I mean a mirror that doesn't send you to
ftp.FreeBSD.org for security patches etc, which is what happens
on the mirrors I've tried -- they seem to mirror the html stuff
only ...
look fo
Mike Silbersack wrote:
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Mike Silbersack wrote:
Yeah, there are definite dns problems. It does still resolve here, though
- you must be especially unlucky.
Nevermind, ftp.freesoftware.com purged itself from my cache. ftp2+ still
seem to work fine, though.
Ah,
Observe the following:
$ uname -rs
FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE
$ ls -l
$ mkdir foo
$ ln -s foo bar
$ rmdir bar
rmdir: bar: Not a directory
So far, so good -- but look at this:
$ rmdir bar/
$ ls -l
total 0
lrwxrwx--- 1 gjb wheel 3 Feb 4 06:35 bar - foo
"Dan Langille" wrote:
On 4 Feb 2001, at 6:46, Greg Black wrote:
Observe the following:
$ uname -rs
FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE
$ ls -l
$ mkdir foo
$ ln -s foo bar
$ rmdir bar
rmdir: bar: Not a directory
I'm quite sure that rm bar will work.
Matt Dillon wrote:
And, I would say, that for any mailer creating and deleting files in
a spool directory at a high rate, *ONLY* a filesystem with softupdates
turned on or a journaling filesystem such as XFS or ReiserFS can be
considered crash-surviveable. Synchronous
Tony Finch wrote:
Why not just use rename(2)? To protect against the new filename
already existing?
Why not just read the man page for rename(2) before making
suggestions?
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mouss wrote:
At 21:25 07/02/01 +1000, Greg Black wrote:
Tony Finch wrote:
Why not just use rename(2)? To protect against the new filename
already existing?
Why not just read the man page for rename(2) before making
suggestions?
I find nothing convincing in the manpage. Could you
Alfred Perlstein wrote:
* Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010207 13:05] wrote:
mouss wrote:
At 21:25 07/02/01 +1000, Greg Black wrote:
Tony Finch wrote:
Why not just use rename(2)? To protect against the new filename
already existing?
Why not just read the man page
Nick Sayer wrote:
Would it generally be viewed as helpful to add the option of reporting
the md5 for the files listed in /var/log/setuid.*?
I don't see the benefit in this if either the md5 binary or the
comparison file are on writable storage (which is almost always
going to be true).
To
Nick Sayer wrote:
Greg Black wrote:
Nick Sayer wrote:
Would it generally be viewed as helpful to add the option of reporting
the md5 for the files listed in /var/log/setuid.*?
I don't see the benefit in this if either the md5 binary or the
comparison file are on writable
Matt Dillon wrote:
Yes. In general softupdates will make the entire filesystem safer.
Does it make sense to use softupdates on file systems like / and
/usr which have little file creation/removal?
Greg
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Matt Dillon wrote:
Unless you are doing a read-only mount, there are still going to be
cases where having softupdates turned on can be advantageous. For
example, installworld will go a lot faster. I also consider softupdates
a whole lot safer, even if all you are doing is
Alfred Perlstein wrote:
* Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010210 23:33] wrote:
Matt Dillon wrote:
Unless you are doing a read-only mount, there are still going to be
cases where having softupdates turned on can be advantageous. For
example, installworld will go a lot
Mustafa N. Deeb wrote:
I'm thinking of testing qmail, and qmail-POP3 using MYSQL
I need some openions, from people who used it..
This is /not/ the right place for this question. People who
switch to qmail are usually happy they did; it's fast and
reliable and easy to configure. Some people
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Peter Seebach writes
:
In message 9402.983047348@critter, Poul-Henning Kamp writes:
Well, no, but the sole available definition of "portable" says that it is
"portable" to assume that all the memory malloc can return is really
"David O'Brien" writes:
| Perhaps you should read the documentation we supplied on this issue.
|
| bash$ cat /usr/src/UPDATING
Hmmm...
$ uname -rs
FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE
$ cat /usr/src/UPDATING
cat: /usr/src/UPDATING: No such file or directory
Perhaps the documentation should be
"Dan Langille" writes:
| On 14 Mar 2001, at 11:57, Greg Black wrote:
|
| "David O'Brien" writes:
|
| | Perhaps you should read the documentation we supplied on this issue.
| |
| | bash$ cat /usr/src/UPDATING
|
| Hmmm...
|
| $ uname -rs
| FreeBSD 4.2-
"Dan Langille" writes:
| On 14 Mar 2001, at 12:05, Greg Black wrote:
|
| "Dan Langille" writes:
|
| | On 14 Mar 2001, at 11:57, Greg Black wrote:
| |
| | "David O'Brien" writes:
| |
| | | Perhaps you should read the documentation we supplied on thi
"David O'Brien" writes:
| On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 12:27:02PM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
| This is the point where we disagree. The information in this
| file is in fact of interest to somebody who does a fresh install
| from CD as the simple way to upgrade from an earlier release
John Baldwin writes:
| On 14-Mar-01 Greg Black wrote:
| "David O'Brien" writes:
| | On Wed, Mar 14, 2001 at 12:27:02PM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
| | This is the point where we disagree. The information in this
| | file is in fact of interest to somebody who does a fresh install
|
Graham Wheeler wrote:
| I've attached the code in case anyone wants to look at it.
Please limit yourself to short fragments. For thousand line
chunks like this, just post a URL where you have made the code
available for those few people who might want to take a look.
Abusing the list with
Bill Moran wrote:
| Thanks for the additional explanation. It has done a number of things
| for me, one of which is convince me that (for my application) the use of
| access() is not a security problem.
You're almost certainly wrong in that conclusion; and even if
you're not wrong now there'll
Robert Watson wrote:
| On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Greg Black wrote:
|
| There is only one reason to use access() and that's to discover if a
| file is accessible. Because of the race condition and the fact that
| access() tells lies to setuid and setgid programs, it is both dangerous
Bill Moran wrote:
| Mike Smith wrote:
| This is actually an interesting case.
|
| I have some interesting clients. The reality of the matter is that their
| filesystem organization on the server is terrible. This could all be
| solved with a properly reorganized directory hierarchy - and that
Robert Watson wrote:
| On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, David O'Brien wrote:
|
| On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 10:55:23AM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
| Many years ago I implemented a new interface that I called
| eaccess() which replicated the work of access, but tested
| against the effective uid and gid
"David O'Brien" wrote:
| On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 11:02:11PM -0400, Robert Watson wrote:
|eaccess_file(2) - Using effective credentials, check to see if the
|requested access is permitted on the file or directory identified by the
|provided pathname.
|
| Why not stick to existing
| Ok, and unless we are totally desperate for cash (dont count on it) we wont
| sell anything to you. Deal? You've just made a world class business
| decision. Burning bridges with a vendor that you may someday need is
| absolutely brilliant.
Cool, can I please go on the list of people you
Anton Berezin wrote:
| Could you provide the Perl script as well?
That would be pointless. The issue is with the C ...
| I am quite sure it can be
| made to run faster. In fact, it is almost always possible in Perl to
| closely match the perfomance of a C program for this kind of
|
Charles C. Figueiredo wrote:
| I appoligize if this is the improper channel for this sort of
| discussion, but it is in the best interests of the FreeBSD following,
| atleast, within my orginization.
It is the wrong place -- see the list descriptions.
| Linux on Intel fits the bill
Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
| On Thu, 24 May 2001, void wrote:
|
| On Wed, May 23, 2001 at 09:20:51AM -0400, Andresen,Jason R. wrote:
|
| Why is knowing the file names cheating? It is almost certain
| that the application will know the names of it's own files
| (and won't be grepping the
Andrew Reilly wrote:
| On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 06:17:33AM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
| the life of all users of the system simpler. There's no real
| excuse for directories with millions (or even thousands) of
| files.
|
| [...]
|
| Nothing in Unix stops you from putting millions of files
Andrew Reilly wrote:
| You can moan about tree-structured vs relational databases, [...]
I can moan about whatever I please -- for instance the fact that
you can't be bothered using a mailer that conforms with basic
rules. Please figure out how to get a Message-Id header into
your mail and
I would have sent this to the original author if he had used a
proper email address on his post; sorry to those who don't want
to see it.
| | I have files fooX where X is a number from 0 to 6 in that
| | directory. I need to find a piece of information, so I run that
| | information
Garance A Drosihn wrote:
| At 9:12 PM -0700 6/1/01, Dima Dorfman wrote:
| Honestly, I don't care about this all that much. I'll
| let you and David debate this to your liking. If no
| consensus develops in the next few days, I'll just
| commit what I have now.
|
| For whatever it's worth, it
David O'Brien wrote:
| On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 12:49:43AM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
| | For whatever it's worth, it seems more reasonable to me
| | to use '--' instead of '=='. Since '--' has NO equals
| | sign in it, it clearly can't be the setting of an
| | environment variable
Matt Dillon wrote:
| Out of the box, FreeBSD (and Linux) work just fine for virtually
| anything you need to do, with very few exceptions. If you need to
| run a huge multi-gigabyte database, or you need to run an EFNET IRC
| server, or a USENET relay, or a SPAM mailer, then you
Sergey Babkin wrote:
| Brian Wolter wrote:
|
|microsoft is evil, we can't win it easily so let's bash it to
|
| microsoft /is/ evil. point in fact they're one of the most unethical
| ^^^
| capitalist organizations you
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
| In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Somers writes:
|
| I'm not having a go at Cheapbytes. I'm just saying that their CDs
| should be labeled official or unofficial based on their content. If
| they want to drop the base ISO image onto a CD and sell it, then
|
Bill Fumerola wrote:
| On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 06:59:14AM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
|
| Perhaps this labelling can be in the form of information on the
| FreeBSD.ORG web site that lists distributions that merit the
| official label.
|
| so this list would be controlled by those who can make
Bruce A. Mah wrote:
| I need to make an executable to run on an i386 box running FreeBSD 2.2.X
| machine. Unfortunately, it has no compiler installed on it. All of the
| computers I have at my disposal currently are i386s running 4-STABLE or
| 5-CURRENT. Upgrading the target machine is not an
Wes Peters writes:
Or simply get a wider editor. Seriously. Writing code in 80 columns is
an anachronism.
No it's not. It's a widely-accepted fact that humans have
difficulty reading lines with more than about 70 characters in
them -- this difficulty increases with age (and is probably
LL and the statement part of the "if"
will not be executed.
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This is still very obscure; I'd like to see:
size (was 1234, should be 5678)
cksum (was 42424242, should be 69696969)
...so that it's clear what the meaning of the numbers is.
In that case I think I would like to loose the ',' also.
While you're at it, why
the
other (under FreeBSD-4.1)?
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messages from subscribers. The spam was bad enough, but the
virus warnings are over the top. Sigh.
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Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven writes:
-On [20001102 09:45], Greg Black ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Maybe it's time to close the list so that it only accepts
messages from subscribers. The spam was bad enough, but the
virus warnings are over the top. Sigh.
I personally prefer mailing
3.Automatically delete all MIME parts with:
Content-Type: application/*
Which are ever sent via the list software.
What about application/pgp-signature?
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"long" is OK too, I forget.
I'm not sure which C language you're talking about here, but
I'll assume it's C89. In that language, in the absence of a
prototype, (and in KR C), `int', `long', `double' and pointer
types are not promoted; but signed or unsigned `char', `short',
and `int' b
; the type is `int' in the
line quoted above. If you want VALUE to be a `short', you need
to say:
#define VALUE ((short) 0)
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Lyndon Nerenberg writes:
FWIW I run our NFS server with NMBCLUSTERS=1. It doesn't burn that
much additional memory.
As an additional data point, I had an NFS server that regularly
crashed when it ran out; logs showed that it needed up to 1700
(against the default of 1024). I bumped it to
How can I send a signal (say, SIGUSR1) to another program with known pid? I
used to do so in Solaris using sigsend() but this call seems not available
in FreeBSD.
Use kill(2), and don't send learner questions to -hackers.
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Jan Grant writes:
Better still would be /usr/local/etc/rc.d/*.sh called automatically
with parameter stop. To do so, insert
This is all nice (BTDT) although I find the *.sh pattern quite annoying,
due to the alphabetisation issue. When I make these mods I tend to use
the SysV-style S*
Jan Grant writes:
It _is_ trivial, but you miss my point: I run several things at startup
that rely on a database service (which needs to be launched first). When
they shut down, the DB must still be running (it's taken down last). So
using a *.sh pattern for startup and shutdown scripts
Paonia Ezrine wrote:
The system calls are described in section 2 of the manual.
thanks. do you mean handbook?
No, he meant what he said.
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David Talkington wrote:
sudo definitely helps if it's carefully administered, but it still
grants root access to a file,
This is wrong -- sudo will grant access with whatever user
privileges you wish to grant, maybe root and maybe some other
user. It all depends on the way you set it up.
It
e Believer in the open source / free software gospel,
but it would be easier to win these arguments if only we had the
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Gerhard Sittig wrote:
Is there anyone out there who feels like rejecting the proposal
for a *reason*? Or to accept the idea, but to redirect the
effort to a "real solution"? I somehow doubt you'd rather
explain again and again that cron(8) isn't broken but that users
should shuffle around
I have an intermittent (and fairly rare) problem with various
PS/2 mice on a set of boxes running 4.1-R (but the problem was
also evident under 3.{1,2,3,4}-R). The boxes all run X and, on
occasion, the mouse will stop working and hundreds of "psmintr:
out of sync" messages will be logged.
It
Doug Barton wrote:
Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
On Tue 2001-01-09 (02:14), Doug Barton wrote:
Gerhard Sittig wrote:
This way, we never repeat jobs, and never lose jobs. Which makes cron
reliable.
For your definition of "reliable." Personally, I find cron doing exactly
what it's
Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
On Wed 2001-01-10 (21:35), Greg Black wrote:
To summarise: It is broken, we have the fix,
No. You believe it is broken; you believe you have a fix. Not
everybody agrees that it is broken or that any fix is required.
Fiddling with cron to work around
Gerhard Sittig wrote:
I take notice of your (and Greg Black's) reservation / being
opposed, respect it and conclude that the change will have to
- default to the current behaviour (something quite usual for
expanding changes)
We'd need some guarantees that the attempt to maintain current
"Dan Langille" wrote:
On 11 Jan 2001, at 16:33, Greg Black wrote:
We'd need some guarantees that the attempt to maintain current
behaviour was done correctly -- i.e., without introducing bugs
that broke things.
What sort of guarantees are acceptable?
It would need to
Gerhard Sittig wrote:
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 16:33 +1000, Greg Black wrote:
BTW: There's good news for those with a dislike regarding
the change: While testing I'm stuck again, so there will be
some more delay.
Previously we were told that this stuff had already been tested
Gerhard Sittig wrote:
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 08:51 +1000, Greg Black wrote:
If any change to expected cron behaviour is to be introduced,
the traditional behaviour must be the default, with a knob
documented in the man pages that can be twisted to get the
oddball behaviour
Michael Bacarella wrote:
Why is crontab suid root?
It has to run jobs as the correct user and must be able to
setuid accordingly.
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Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Jan 17), Greg Black said:
Michael Bacarella wrote:
Why is crontab suid root?
I say to myself "To update /var/cron/tabs/ and to signal cron".
Could crontab run suid 'cron'?
If those are the only two things it needs to do
Gerhard Sittig wrote:
I'm just editing the PR with the cron patches to "catch up" with
OpenBSD in this respect (stating that it doesn't handle DST, but
has benefits whenever one's clock is jumping or cron waking up
too late and _could_ be extended to handle DST). Therein I
suggest to
-
Dan Langille wrote:
On 18 Jan 2001, at 20:13, Warner Losh wrote:
Still, I don't think it is too onerous a requirement that a buildworld
have happened first.
I disagree. Unless you qualify the above, you're saying that if I install
FreeBSD for the first time, in order to create a
Sergey Babkin wrote:
Neil Blakey-Milner wrote:
On Sat 2001-01-20 (16:39), Sergey Babkin wrote:
All,
I've committed these changes for cron to support DST change
to -current (see PR bin/24494 for description of my tests).
Everyone is welcome to test them out.
Please let me
Jamie Heckford wrote:
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post this, but
I think it needs attention.
It is the wrong place and the only attention it needs is from
you. Read the message and understand it -- that should not be
too hard for somebody who claims to be:
Chief Network Engineer
Sergey Babkin wrote:
It still can be backed out.
Well, what are you waiting for? Back it out. Listen to what
people are saying and then maybe propose something that takes
into account their concerns.
To make this point a little more clearly -- the fact that Matt
Dillon, who is no fool, and
On 2004-06-21, Leo Bicknell wrote:
While I think the particular sort order (current behavior vrs non
nano patch vrs nano patch) is largely unimportant, I think consistency
is very important. It's quite common to do things like using diff
on the output of commands like ls (indeed, I think
On 2004-10-02, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
I liked what Max Laier proposed though, about making this tunable and
defaulting to off. See below for the behavior of what I've come up with:
On 2004-10-02 11:23, Max Laier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ Sorry to be so negative ... ]
At very least
On 2004-10-18, Joe Schmoe wrote:
Is host based keys just broken in ssh on FreeBSD ? I
wish someone would just confirm this so I can stop
wasting my time ... or deny it and tell me what I am
doing wrong - _all_ information regarding my setup is
in my original post ...
Can't recall the
On 2005-03-24, klowd9 - wrote:
Reading the CVS logs for the relevant files should give you ideas
about who might be able to answer your questions. However, you
shouldn't expect that people have time to answer lots of questions.
Of course, it helps if your interest is in the context of
On 2005-05-04, Pablo Mora wrote:
what do they think of the book: Advanced Programming In The Unix
Environment (Richard Stevens) ??
is a good option to learn C on Unix ?
Stevens was a (justifiably) respected author on the topics he
covered in that book (and his other books), and it will be a
Chirag Kantharia wrote:
| On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 11:25:40PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
| | Uh, st_size is an off_t, which is a signed 64 bit value,
| | not an unsigned 32 bit vale...
|
| going off-topic why should it be `signed' 64 bit and not unsigned?
So that things like lseek(2) can
Matt Dillon wrote:
| This gets an 'A' on my cool-o-meter.
|
| http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124839
The real research might be interesting, but the information in
the article seems to be wrong. It says:
Each keystroke from a user is immediately sent to the target
machine as a
Alfred Perlstein wrote:
| * Greg Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010822 19:46] wrote:
| Matt Dillon wrote:
| | This gets an 'A' on my cool-o-meter.
| |
| | http://www.vnunet.com/News/1124839
|
| The real research might be interesting, but the information in
| the article seems to be wrong
Leo Bicknell wrote:
| I ran into a pair of all too common annoyances this morning that
| got me thinking. Via the magic of cut and paste I ended up with
| the following two sorts of command lines:
|
| mutt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| traceroute http://www.ufp.org/
|
| These of course come from
David O'Brien wrote:
| On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 03:04:16PM -0700, Bill Swingle wrote:
| So this represents my most significant effort to date to fix something
| in C. It took me far too long to identify where the one line fix needed
| to go and even longer to figure out how to do it in C.
|
Leo Bicknell wrote:
| On Fri, Sep 07, 2001 at 05:46:26PM -0500, Chris Costello wrote:
| bzero((void *)packagesite, sizeof(packagesite));
|
| That's unnecessary unless you know you're going to be reading
| data from that string starting somewhere other than
| packagesite[0];. And the
Bill Swingle wrote:
| - strlcpy(packagesite, , sizeof(packagesite));
|
| Chris Costello recommended that I do this like this instead:
|
| packagesite[0] = '\0'
|
| Which seems to make sense since it lacks the overhead of strlcpy. Is
| there a right way to do this?
A C programmer
Tim Allshorn wrote:
| I need to be able to run a particular program at the last
| minute of each month and yes I know it would be much easier to
| run it at the first minute of each month, but my hands are tied
| and my brain is too puny to work it out.
This cannot be done with cron, even
Eugene Grosbein wrote:
| On Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 12:17:30PM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
|
| | I need to be able to run a particular program at the last
| | minute of each month and yes I know it would be much easier to
| | run it at the first minute of each month, but my hands are tied
Eric Melville wrote:
| I agree with and like the new behaviour but I think it is still lacking
| in one aspect. When using a mouse to position your cursor it's very
| obvious where that cursor is and what it's pointing to. With lidialog
| it's hard to tell at just a glance where the cursor
Jordan Hubbard wrote:
| libdialog(3) is extremely limited, as we've been saying for literally
| years now, and what I wish is that people would stop telling these
| lists what it needs and simply Do It. We've certainly never lacked
| for ideas on how to improve it, just the bodies to actually
David O'Brien wrote:
| On Sun, Oct 28, 2001 at 07:40:34PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote:
| By using the rename/create/signal approach, syslogd is
| guaranteed to log new messages to the old file, despite the
| rename, until signalled to close and reopen the file (or a
| new file of another name,
Doug White wrote:
| On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Sandeep Joshi wrote:
|
| I changed the disklabels on a few SCSI disks and now
| I keep getting these BTX halted messages every time
| I reboot.
|
| Lemme guess, you're running them in 'dangerously dedicated' mode.
|
| There is a bug in Adaptec
Matthew Dillon wrote:
| :In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernd Walter writes:
| : Is there any reason we don't want to truncate the file? Does O_TRUNC
| : not work well of the file is a tape device or something?
| :
| :I don't expect O_TRUNK to work on devices such tapes and disks.
| :
| :Well, it
Crist J . Clark wrote:
| On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 06:02:49AM +1000, Greg Black wrote:
| Matthew Dillon wrote:
|
| | :In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bernd Walter writes:
| | : Is there any reason we don't want to truncate the file? Does O_TRUNC
| | : not work well of the file is a tape device
like find and xargs and all the
other system binaries -- their atime does not get changed when
they are executed. Check your facts before giving this kind of
advice.
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On 2005-08-10, Julian Stacey wrote:
Anyone got FreeBSD to recognise an HP USB printer ? I have a PSC 1315.
I have a Deskjet 6540 and it works fine with 5.4-R without any
setup issues at all.
Greg
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On 2005-08-13, Jo?o Carlos Mendes Lu?s wrote:
Brooks Davis wrote:
On BSD systems, the group of a file is always the group of the directory
it is in. This differs from SysV UNIX. The resident grey-beard at work
feels this is a new and annoying behavior. (i.e. it wasn't always this
way.
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