freeBSD ports currency.

2009-07-29 Thread Julian Elischer
FreeBSd was just added to the survey of "how fresh are the packages on a distro" survey at: http://oswatershed.org/ I think we are doing ok.. it's preliminary data only and one should not read too much into it. julian ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.or

Re: recent change to ifconfig breaks OpenVPN?

2009-08-01 Thread Julian Elischer
Stefan Bethke wrote: (Moving the discussion to -ports.) Am 31.07.2009 um 00:57 schrieb Matthias Andree: Am 31.07.2009, 00:36 Uhr, schrieb Bjoern A. Zeeb : Yeah that is as great as we are or rather were. So really, fix the openvpn scripts that assign the address to interfaces to do somethin

ports and PBIs

2010-04-09 Thread Julian Elischer
sorry for the cross-post.. Last night at the Bay Area FreeBSD Users Group meeting we had a discussion about ports, and what is good about them and what is bad about them. This has been a topic of discussion quite a bit recently and we were looking for a solution that would allow us to keep the go

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/10/10 12:20 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: Alfred Perlstein , Matt at ix systems Kris (Mr PBI), some others and I, felt

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/10/10 10:36 AM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: I do have a question, assuming PBI's were merged officially into the FreeBSD ports tree, say I had PostgreSQL Server installed, via PBI. then I wanted to tweak a setting so I: cd /usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-server/&& make deinstall clean wou

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/10/10 3:35 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 4/10/10 12:20 AM, Garrett Cooper wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:28 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:11 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/10/10 12:07 PM, Tim Kientzle wrote: Garrett Cooper wrote: If I'm understanding you correctly you're saying it's an issue when I do: pkg_add A B C # 1 year passes pkg_add D # D depends on A, B, C, of different revisions. pkg_add barfs because it can't find the applications, etc. This is

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-10 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/10/10 5:43 PM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: [dropped current@ since it doesn't take non-member posts] Tim Kientzle wrote: The LD_LIBRARY_PATH issue is the most interesting problem here. I don't immediately see a solution that doesn't include teaching ld-elf.so.1 about some form of per-a

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/10/10 10:06 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote: It's more than just diskspace though. Consider the fact that now you're going to lose a lot of the memory sharing between shared libs and what-not, and now you'd have to be running N number of daemons . Take PCBSD for instance -- do they really revisio

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/11/10 3:27 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote: I already pointed in the other reply in this thread, $ORIGIN dynamic token should solve the issue. See http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1984/chapter3-13312?l=en&a=view yes, teh question I have since I am not alinker expert is do we support it? t

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/11/10 11:44 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:23:33AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: On 4/11/10 3:27 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote: I already pointed in the other reply in this thread, $ORIGIN dynamic token should solve the issue. See http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/11/10 12:20 PM, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:13:12PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: On 4/11/10 11:44 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote: On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 11:23:33AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: On 4/11/10 3:27 AM, Kostik Belousov wrote: I already pointed in the other

Re: ports and PBIs

2010-04-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/13/10 12:09 AM, Lucas Holt wrote: On 4/10/2010 3:18 PM, k...@pcbsd.org wrote However for my more hard-core friends, nothing stopping you from running your own ports down the road, more power to ya! For doing something like embedded work or a server this makes total sense and I think it is

port for sysutils/fio update?

2010-10-24 Thread Julian Elischer
The upstream source for sysutils/fio has been updated specifically to fix some problems with FreeBSD and now compiles with no required patches, (and also works better on FreeBSD) It would be a very simple update for anyone who knows the ports system. Julian _

Re: port for sysutils/fio update?

2010-10-24 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/24/10 1:59 PM, Ruslan Mahmatkhanov wrote: 25.10.2010 00:16, Julian Elischer пишет: The upstream source for sysutils/fio has been updated specifically to fix some problems with FreeBSD and now compiles with no required patches, (and also works better on FreeBSD) It would be a very simple

Re: sysutils/sge6[012]: Sun Grid Engine - still broklen due to utmpx?

2011-09-23 Thread Julian Elischer
On 9/23/11 12:04 AM, Hartmann, O. wrote: I was wondering if the SUN Grid Engine, located in port sysutils/sge6[012] is still broken due to utmpx. My department uses this GRID engine on Linux and since a long time I wish to use it also on FreeBSD. Are there alternatives? What are people using on

Re: [HEADSUP][CFT] pkgng beta1 is out

2012-01-30 Thread Julian Elischer
On 1/30/12 4:39 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Hi, pkgng has just reached the beta phase, and has now found its way to the ports tree (disabled by default). 1/ Why pkgng? the name sucks though it would be good to fix it before it's built in everywhere. like windows NT, which it is

Re: freebsd-ports Digest, Vol 391, Issue 10

2010-11-21 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/21/10 4:00 AM, freebsd-ports-requ...@freebsd.org wrote: deprecated because: has not been developed for 10 years but is this a reason for deprecation if it still works? Julian ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.o

snort port

2011-01-15 Thread Julian Elischer
I notice that a sourcefire person is offering to take on the snort port.. That's an offer worth investigating.. maybe the current maintainer can work with him.. Julian ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listin

Re: Transferring ports

2008-03-20 Thread Julian Elischer
Peter Pentchev wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:02:42AM +0300, Dmitry Marakasov wrote: The purpose is similar - creating jails out of host system in fast and easy way, possibility to strip everything unneeded (useful for secure minimal jails or flash/livecd/embedded installations of minimal

Re: request for a new port + package

2018-05-06 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/5/18 7:03 am, Mateusz Piotrowski wrote: On Fri, 20 Apr 2018 04:22:32 +0800 Julian Elischer wrote: On 9/4/18 7:15 pm, Eugene Grosbein wrote: On 09.04.2018 14:16, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: how do i place a request for a new port + package? the sources for my requested tool are available at

Re: Practice of "Sponsored by" in commit messages

2018-05-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 15/5/18 7:40 am, John W. O'Brien wrote: Hello FreeBSD Ports, The Committer's Guide section on Commit Log Messages [0], doesn't cover the use of the "Sponsored by" key word. As a non-committer contributor, it only recently occurred to me to wonder what work that credit is intended to represent

anyone know how to shut these ports up?

2018-05-25 Thread Julian Elischer
several ports, when compiled output a MASS of stuff that looks like: No recipe for '../gnulib/m4/stdio_h.m4' and no prerequisites actually changed. No need to remake target '../gnulib/m4/stdio_h.m4'. Considering target file '../gnulib/m4/stdlib_h.m4'.   Looking for an implici

Re: anyone know how to shut these ports up?

2018-05-29 Thread Julian Elischer
On 30/5/18 12:38 am, Brooks Davis wrote: On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 02:07:43PM +0800, Julian Elischer wrote: several ports, when compiled output a MASS of stuff that looks like: No recipe for '../gnulib/m4/stdio_h.m4' and no prerequisites actually changed. No need

Re: Archives of last quarterly package builds?

2018-07-22 Thread Julian Elischer
On 22/7/18 5:59 am, grarpamp wrote: Packages are delivered via a single quarterly label here https://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:11:amd64/quarterly/ which corresponds to the latest quarterly branch label here https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/branches/?sortby=date#dirlist However, similar to how

Automake creation error.. generic or just me?

2018-07-25 Thread Julian Elischer
I'm not exactly sure where the error come from.. possibly the find, if stderr and stdout are not synchronous. Has anyone else seen this?  or understand it? ===>  Building for automake-1.16.1 --- doc/aclocal.1 --- --- doc/automake.1 --- --- bin/automake --- [...]ls pkg/All /usr/bin/make  inst

Re: Reproducibility packages

2018-08-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/8/18 7:44 am, Yuet-nan Wong via freebsd-ports wrote: Are FreeBSD ports supposed to change version numbers when a change is made? Issue is reproducibility is void when packages have changed like suricata or the many changes to binutils. Some removing package content but version not changed.

Re: Archives of last quarterly package builds?

2018-08-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/8/18 11:17 am, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! I've asked for this but the answer is "no we don't do that.. and have no plans to". What is the rationale? I don't know, but as the setup of your own package builder box is simple enough -- wouldn't that be an alternative for you ? If the answer is

has a framework change broken sysutils/google-compute-engine-oslogin?

2018-08-07 Thread Julian Elischer
It says it can not find the file curl/curl.h which IS PRESENT as /usr/local/include/curl/curl.h There are Makefile BROKEN annotations for this error in mips etc but I'm seeing it now on amd64. I would think that all ports should have /usr/local/include in their Include list but maybe not?

Re: has a framework change broken sysutils/google-compute-engine-oslogin?

2018-08-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/8/18 1:02 pm, Julian Elischer wrote: It says it can not find the file curl/curl.h which IS PRESENT as /usr/local/include/curl/curl.h There are Makefile BROKEN annotations for this error in mips etc but I'm seeing it now on amd64. I would think that all ports should have /usr/

Re: has a framework change broken sysutils/google-compute-engine-oslogin?

2018-08-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/8/18 1:59 pm, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 7:40 AM Julian Elischer wrote: On 8/8/18 1:02 pm, Julian Elischer wrote: It says it can not find the file curl/curl.h which IS PRESENT as /usr/local/include/curl/curl.h There are Makefile BROKEN annotations for this error

Re: has a framework change broken sysutils/google-compute-engine-oslogin?

2018-08-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/8/18 1:59 pm, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 7:40 AM Julian Elischer wrote: On 8/8/18 1:02 pm, Julian Elischer wrote: It says it can not find the file curl/curl.h which IS PRESENT as /usr/local/include/curl/curl.h There are Makefile BROKEN annotations for this error

Re: has a framework change broken sysutils/google-compute-engine-oslogin?

2018-08-07 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/8/18 2:30 pm, Julian Elischer wrote: On 8/8/18 1:59 pm, Fernando Apesteguía wrote: On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 7:40 AM Julian Elischer wrote: On 8/8/18 1:02 pm, Julian Elischer wrote: It says it can not find the file curl/curl.h which IS PRESENT as /usr/local/include/curl/curl.h There are

Re: has a framework change broken sysutils/google-compute-engine-oslogin?

2018-08-08 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/8/18 6:30 pm, Jan Beich wrote: Julian Elischer writes: g++ -O2 -pipe -DPANZURA_DEV -DPZ_LONGNAMES -fstack-protector -isystem /usr/local/include -fno-strict-aliasing -isystem /usr/local/include -fPIC -c pam_module/pam_oslogin_login.cc -o pam_module/pam_oslogin_login.o g++ -fstack

Re: has a framework change broken sysutils/google-compute-engine-oslogin?

2018-08-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 13/8/18 9:16 pm, Helen Koike wrote: Hi all, On 08/08/2018 03:04 PM, Dmitri Goutnik wrote: On 18-08-09 01:16:51, Julian Elischer wrote: On 8/8/18 6:30 pm, Jan Beich wrote: Julian Elischer writes: g++ -O2 -pipe -DPANZURA_DEV -DPZ_LONGNAMES -fstack-protector -isystem /usr/local/include

Re: [HEADSUP] Removing DESTDIR support (aka chroot not staging)

2019-10-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/2/19 11:47 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: Hello, As far as I know, the chroot support in the ports tree, is not used by anyone (and is broken in many areas) this is the feature called DESTDIR. If anyone is using it, can you please raise your voice, in order to understand your use case and

Re: fetch is tarpitted by Texas Instruments and/or Akamai and can not download distfiles for TI-related ports.

2020-04-05 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/3/20 7:39 AM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: On 03.04.2020 16:47, Kurt Jaeger wrote: I don't know, is it generic for Akamai or TI-specific. I think, somebody with official hat (FreeBSD Foundation speakperson?) should contact TI and Akamai about this situation. Faking User-Agent could be only

Re: fetch is tarpitted by Texas Instruments and/or Akamai and can not download distfiles for TI-related ports.

2020-04-05 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/5/20 11:11 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: On 4/3/20 7:39 AM, Lev Serebryakov wrote: On 03.04.2020 16:47, Kurt Jaeger wrote:   I don't know, is it generic for Akamai or TI-specific.   I think, somebody with official hat (FreeBSD Foundation speakperson?) should contact TI and Akamai

patch to bsd.ports.mk to support out-of-tree patches.

2015-03-23 Thread Julian Elischer
Hi, I've a need to keep soe changes outside of the ports tree, to allow me to tailor our installs. I could use the "EXTRA_PATCHES" setting, but I'd have to outline the patches every time and keep track of them one by one. Instead, I have adde dhte following to bsd.ports.mk: diff -u bsd.port.

Re: patch to bsd.ports.mk to support out-of-tree patches.

2015-03-24 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/24/15 1:45 PM, Chris H wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 13:33:15 +0800 Julian Elischer wrote Hi, I've a need to keep soe changes outside of the ports tree, to allow me to tailor our installs. I could use the "EXTRA_PATCHES" setting, but I'd have to outline the patches every

Re: patch to bsd.ports.mk to support out-of-tree patches.

2015-03-24 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/25/15 9:50 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote: On 3/24/2015 5:32 AM, Marcus von Appen wrote: Julian Elischer : [...] esac | ${PATCH} ${PATCH_DIST_ARGS} `patch_dist_strip $$i` ; \ done ) .endif +.if defined(EXTRA_PATCH_TREE) [...] +.endif .if defined(EXTRA_PATCHES) @set

compiling ports with --sysroot= and -isystem

2016-04-21 Thread Julian Elischer
How can I add entries (like the above) to a port compile? I want to ADD things to CFLAGS. If I add 'CFLAGS=...' to the build (for example, of lsof) it actually replaces all the CFLAGS already there. lsof (as the example) uses configure, so I would need to feed the added stuff into configure. Is

Re: compiling ports with --sysroot= and -isystem

2016-04-21 Thread Julian Elischer
On 22/04/2016 11:18 AM, olli hauer wrote: On 2016-04-22 04:04, Julian Elischer wrote: How can I add entries (like the above) to a port compile? I want to ADD things to CFLAGS. If I add 'CFLAGS=...' to the build (for example, of lsof) it actually replaces all the CFLAGS already there

question for both ports and current

2007-10-21 Thread Julian Elischer
In a move to support real krenel threads doing work in the kernel, the code that creates kerel processes has been renamed kthread_xxx to kproc_xxx teh following ports seem to reference the renamed functions in kld modules they create. I'm not a ports export so I'm not sure how to get a port

question for both ports and current

2007-10-21 Thread Julian Elischer
## resend as the original seems to have gotten hung up somewhere... In a move to support real krenel threads doing work in the kernel, the code that creates kerel processes has been renamed kthread_xxx to kproc_xxx teh following ports seem to reference the renamed functions in kld modules the

perforce port fails on 10.0

2014-06-23 Thread Julian Elischer
Gordon, I don't know if you have seen this but the p4 port fails on 10.0 unless you have the compat9 (or 8 or 7) port loaded first, as it is linked on 7.0 and requires libstdc++ which is no longer present. I don't know how dependencies are done on ports but I guess there should be some depede

Re: poudriere: setting up jail failes

2014-08-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/9/14, 2:43 AM, Bryan Drewery wrote: On 8/8/2014 11:46 AM, Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I'm setting up a jail with poudriere(8) to compile my ports; after some hours it is crashing with: # poudriere jail -c -j freebsd-head -m svn+http -v head ; date [...] mtree: illegal option -- N usage

Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-01 Thread Julian Elischer
On 9/1/14, 6:39 PM, Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: And for the portsnap users? In short, this change doesn't directly effect portsnap users. Portsnap is a tool that used to obtain a copy of the ports tree. Portsnap is only one way, another way to get a copy of the ports tree is by using subversion a

Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-01 Thread Julian Elischer
On 9/1/14, 7:16 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2014.09.01 20:51, Michelle Sullivan wrote: And for the portsnap users? In short, this change doesn't directly effect portsnap users. Sure about that? I'm sure of it. Your issue is with the tree itself, not the tool used to fetch it. Corre

Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 9/1/14, 7:59 PM, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: You should try arguing with someone like Bank of Americas security and operations department You work for the same company as me? in a past life, they were a customer. some day about whether they want to suddenly upgrade

Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool

2014-09-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 9/1/14, 8:03 PM, Andrew Berg wrote: On 2014.09.01 21:39, Julian Elischer wrote: sigh.. when are we as a project, all going to learn that reality in business is that you often need to install stuff that is old. Its not always your choice. The custommers require it.. You should try arguing

old ports/packages

2016-05-02 Thread Julian Elischer
Hi guys, ok so I see: 2014-04-30 ports-mgmt/pkg_install: Replaced by ports-mgmt/pkg So now how do enterprises maintaining appliances etc. generate packages for old systems? (yeah I know about chroot/jails etc.) but we have it embedded into several workflows that deliver stuff that is not 'r

Re: old ports/packages

2016-05-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/05/2016 8:39 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: +--On 2 mai 2016 18:39:57 +0800 Julian Elischer wrote: | Hi guys, | | ok so I see: | | 2014-04-30 ports-mgmt/pkg_install: Replaced by ports-mgmt/pkg | | | So now how do enterprises maintaining appliances etc. generate packages | for old systems

Re: old ports/packages

2016-05-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/05/2016 2:31 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: +--On 3 mai 2016 12:02:13 +0800 Julian Elischer wrote: | On 2/05/2016 8:39 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: |> +--On 2 mai 2016 18:39:57 +0800 Julian Elischer |> wrote: |> | Hi guys, |> | |> | ok so I see: |> | |> | 2014-04-30 p

Re: old ports/packages

2016-05-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/05/2016 1:54 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Mathieu Arnold <mailto:m...@freebsd.org>> wrote: +--On 3 mai 2016 12:02:13 +0800 Julian Elischer mailto:jul...@freebsd.org>> wrote: | On 2/05/2016 8:39 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: |> +

suggested patch for bsd.ports.mk

2016-05-12 Thread Julian Elischer
This patch is pretty self explanatory. it allows us to keep patches for various ports separately in a sparse hierarchy while not having to write to the ports tree itself. In case the list scrubs hte text attachment (diff) here's the description part of the diff. > //depot/bugatti/FreeBS

Re: suggested patch for bsd.ports.mk

2016-05-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 13/05/2016 3:19 AM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: This patch is pretty self explanatory. it allows us to keep patches for various ports separately in a sparse hierarchy while not having to write to the ports tree itself. Nice idea ! I'll have a look. BTW I've had

Re: suggested patch for bsd.ports.mk

2016-05-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 13/05/2016 3:26 PM, Andrzej Tobola wrote: On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 12:11:47AM +0800, Julian Elischer wrote: This patch is pretty self explanatory. it allows us to keep patches for various ports separately in a sparse hierarchy while not having to write to the ports tree itself. In case the

destination of makepatch target

2016-05-13 Thread Julian Elischer
The makepatch target makes the patches in FILESDIR. should it not make them in PATCHDIR? they are defined by default to be the same thing: PATCHDIR?= ${MASTERDIR}/files FILESDIR?= ${MASTERDIR}/files but it would seem to make more sense to have them appear in PATCHDIR

Re: suggested patch for bsd.ports.mk

2016-05-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 13/05/2016 12:11 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: so who or what decides if I can put this in? As a long term committer from before there were ports, do I have access to it? do I need to get a ports mentor? (seems likely and would make sense).. do I apply somewhere? Or should I look for soemone

best way to tune ports to add a CLFAGS entry

2016-06-28 Thread Julian Elischer
At work I am doing various cross compiles in order to make a product under freebsd that actually will run under a modified FreeBSD that runs on an appliance. We want to get away from hand rolling everything to leverage all teh work in getting ports working well on FreeBSD. We have some extra s

Re: best way to tune ports to add a CLFAGS entry

2016-06-28 Thread Julian Elischer
On 29/06/2016 8:43 AM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 6/28/16 9:52 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: At work I am doing various cross compiles in order to make a product under freebsd that actually will run under a modified FreeBSD that runs on an appliance. We want to get away from hand rolling

Re: best way to tune ports to add a CLFAGS entry

2016-06-28 Thread Julian Elischer
On 29/06/2016 12:01 PM, Chris H wrote: On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:52:51 +0800 Julian Elischer wrote At work I am doing various cross compiles in order to make a product under freebsd that actually will run under a modified FreeBSD that runs on an appliance. We want to get away from hand rolling

Re: [SOLVED] Segfault in OpenSSL even though ports GnuTLS demanded (irssi and loudmouth)

2016-08-01 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/08/2016 5:16 AM, Bertram Scharpf wrote: On Thursday, 28. Jul 2016, 17:56:46 -0400, Jung-uk Kim wrote: On 07/28/16 05:37 PM, Bertram Scharpf wrote: On Thursday, 28. Jul 2016, 15:37:00 -0400, Jung-uk Kim wrote: On 07/28/16 02:02 PM, Bertram Scharpf wrote: Program received signal SIGSEGV

Fwd: ipfw divert filter for IPv4 geo-blocking (port?)

2016-08-01 Thread Julian Elischer
Is there a ports committer who could take this in? Since this announcement, he's made several fixes and enhancements, including the ability to directly populate ipfw tables with country ranges etc. Very useful, and we should have it in ports, probably in net-mgmt/ I've kicked the tires and it

Re: freebsd-update and portsnap users still at risk of compromise

2016-08-10 Thread Julian Elischer
/ports svn{lite} co https://svn.FreeBSD.org/ports/head /usr/ports make index rm -rf /usr/sbin/portsnap /var/db/portsnap/* I'd also be interested in hearing from hardenedbsd users regarding the pros and cons of cutting over to that distribution. Roger On 2016-07-29 09:00, Julian

Re: Passwordless accounts vi ports!

2016-08-10 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/08/2016 1:16 PM, Ngie Cooper wrote: On Aug 10, 2016, at 22:05, O. Hartmann wrote: I just checked the security scanning outputs of FreeBSD and found this surprising result: [...] Checking for passwordless accounts: polkitd::565:565::0:0:Polkit Daemon User:/var/empty:/usr/sbin/nologin puls

dependency explosions

2016-09-30 Thread Julian Elischer
Hi ports people. It seems to me that there has been an explosion in ports dependencies recently. Things that used to need a few dependencies are now pulling in things one would never imagine. We just had to add the openjdk7 port to something and the number of dependencies is at 120 and rising

Re: dependency explosions

2016-10-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit : There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages. Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running make config. but you can never really know the effect. th

Re: dependency explosions

2016-10-04 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit : There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages. Some dependencies are often optional, and can be unchecked by running make config. Such a 'minimum' install sh

Re: dependency explosions

2016-10-05 Thread Julian Elischer
On 4/10/2016 11:38 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/10/2016 à 05:18, Julian Elischer a écrit : On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit : There is a need for a "minimum" install of a lot of packages. Some dependencies are often opt

Re: dependency explosions

2016-10-05 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/10/2016 1:39 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: Julian Elischer wrote on 10/05/2016 22:04: On 4/10/2016 11:38 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/10/2016 à 05:18, Julian Elischer a écrit : On 3/10/2016 5:14 AM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit : There is a need

Re: dependency explosions

2016-10-05 Thread Julian Elischer
On 5/10/2016 2:20 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/10/2016 à 22:04, Julian Elischer a écrit : Another thing that might be good woudl be a way to tell ports "remove all the ports that were just build dependencies". pkg autoremove hmm I didn't know that would remove build deps fo

ports capable of coping with --relocate?

2016-10-09 Thread Julian Elischer
for packages I'm using : * PKG_DBDIR=/$(FOO)/var/db/pkg pkg add --relocate /$(FOO) $(PKGNAME)* to build up an image in location "$FOO" that I can tar up and install onto a machine. however some other ports fail to find that a dependency has been installed.. e.g. libglib2 is installed in

Re: ports capable of coping with --relocate?

2016-10-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On 9/10/2016 10:35 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: for packages I'm using : * PKG_DBDIR=/$(FOO)/var/db/pkg pkg add --relocate /$(FOO) $(PKGNAME)* to build up an image in location "$FOO" that I can tar up and install onto a machine. however some other ports fail to find that a

harder and harder to avoid pkg

2016-10-11 Thread Julian Elischer
As the number of dependencies between packages get ever higher, it becomes more and more difficult to compile packages and the dependence on binary precompiled packages is increased. However binary packages are unsuitable for some situations. We really need to follow the lead of some of the Li

Re: harder and harder to avoid pkg

2016-10-11 Thread Julian Elischer
On 11/10/2016 12:51 PM, olli hauer wrote: On 2016-10-11 20:59, Julian Elischer wrote: As the number of dependencies between packages get ever higher, it becomes more and more difficult to compile packages and the dependence on binary precompiled packages is increased. However binary packages

Re: harder and harder to avoid pkg

2016-10-11 Thread Julian Elischer
for pkg to have the ability to have two manifests. We are doing similar to what Roger says, but it's just so much work... -Alfred On 10/11/16 11:59 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: As the number of dependencies between packages get ever higher, it becomes more and more difficult to compile p

Re: harder and harder to avoid pkg

2016-10-12 Thread Julian Elischer
On 12/10/2016 1:13 AM, Vlad K. wrote: On 2016-10-11 20:59, Julian Elischer wrote: are unsuitable for some situations. We really need to follow the lead of some of the Linux groups and have -runtime and -devel versions of packages, OR we what woudlbe smarter, woudl be to have several &quo

Re: harder and harder to avoid pkg

2016-10-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 13/10/2016 5:42 AM, David Demelier wrote: 2016-10-12 10:04 GMT+02:00 Andrea Venturoli : On 10/12/16 09:24, Matthieu Volat wrote: And GNU/Linuxes can be a PITA when you have to track -dev(el) packages (which sometimes really requires -bin, -app or whatever), or worst, describe to people how

Re: harder and harder to avoid pkg

2016-10-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 13/10/2016 10:33 AM, RW via freebsd-ports wrote: On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:59:47 -0700 Julian Elischer wrote: As the number of dependencies between packages get ever higher, it becomes more and more difficult to compile packages and the dependence on binary precompiled packages is increased

Re: gcc5 dependency challenges

2016-10-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 14/10/2016 12:48 AM, Dewayne Geraghty wrote: After some rudimentary performance testing I note that we get up around 3% improvement in application performance when we use gcc5 for our package builds. However building ports with gcc results in gcc5 being a dependency. Examining ldd, we find th

Re: harder and harder to avoid pkg

2016-10-14 Thread Julian Elischer
On 14/10/2016 4:27 AM, Matthieu Volat wrote: On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 13:05:35 +0200 David Demelier wrote: 2016-10-14 11:22 GMT+02:00 Baptiste Daroussin : It is imho doable in both sides. We could imagine tagging the plist/manifest so pkg can allow a user to install only the things tagged as runt

private ports and pkgs versioning

2016-10-17 Thread Julian Elischer
Is there a standard way of naming a pkg that is locally compiled (maybe with a different set of options, or a local patch) so that it doesn't get confused with generic ports that are from freeBSD.org? I want to use mostly standard pkgs but need to compile a few myself (this can't be an uncommo

really to pkg people

2016-11-28 Thread Julian Elischer
Is it at all possible for the ports/pkg people to QUIT DELETING STUFF! It's most disconcerting when a quarterly collection of packages disappears and one has nowhere to get new packages that match all the ones out in the field. Since 10.3 is the latest 10 release and the release_3 collection i

Re: jython on FreeBSD 10 ports

2016-12-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/12/2016 12:46 AM, Ruslan Makhmatkhanov wrote: Julian Elischer wrote on 12/02/2016 17:19: On 29/11/2016 1:57 PM, Ruslan Makhmatkhanov wrote: Julian Elischer wrote on 11/29/2016 08:34: Ruslan, I'm just wondering if the 404 is supposed to be removed from the email address I ha

Re: FOCAL

2016-12-03 Thread Julian Elischer
Some friends and I have a pdp8 here.. we replaed the bulbs with leds about 25 years ago, but last time we tried it, it still ran.. model number escapes me.. its currently at a friend's place. It was the controller for a DISTEC (?) display, the predecessor for the wonderful gt40 and used as a fr

what is the purpose of the quarterly ports branches?

2016-12-05 Thread Julian Elischer
they are effectively useless because the results are not archived, and the quarterly pkg branch actually changes day by day, so making two machines from the same quarterly branch can give you different machines (making it useless for paying work) not to mention that if you use the quarterly pk

Re: The ports collection has some serious issues

2016-12-12 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/12/2016 6:05 PM, Vlad K. wrote: On 2016-12-08 06:16, Daniil Berendeev wrote: I mean, they are the FIRST landing point of a change. And the only QA we ask for that change is a confirmation that poudriere and portlint have been run, the rest is at liberty of committers how far they'll go

Re: The ports collection has some serious issues

2016-12-12 Thread Julian Elischer
On 8/12/2016 8:28 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Thu, Dec 08, 2016 at 05:16:24AM +, Daniil Berendeev wrote: Hello guys! First of all, it's not a hate mail, I appreciate all the work done on the system and I enjoy using FreeBSD every day. But after some recent experience I'd like to point

Re: what is the purpose of the quarterly ports branches?

2016-12-13 Thread Julian Elischer
On 7/12/2016 10:12 PM, George Mitchell wrote: On 12/06/16 21:59, Jason Unovitch wrote: On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 10:48:20PM +, Ben Woods wrote: On Tue., 6 Dec. 2016 at 4:44 am, Julian Elischer wrote: they are effectively useless because the results are not archived, and the quarterly pkg

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-14 Thread Julian Elischer
Please add my voice to this.. It's not really that much that needs to be done. lets just call it 'learning from experience' Also, the quarterly PACKAGES should be kept around a bit longer too. and the pkg archives need to be in a layout that the system installer can be pointed at them in 4 years

Re: (In)Stability of the Quarterly Branch

2016-12-16 Thread Julian Elischer
On 15/12/2016 9:43 PM, Torsten Zuehlsdorff wrote: On 15.12.2016 14:16, David Demelier wrote: [...] What I want: a ports tree that matches the FreeBSD version like OpenBSD. You have FreeBSD 11.0? You get a ports tree for that version specifically. No major update, no breaking changes. Just bug

Re: what is the purpose of the quarterly ports branches?

2016-12-16 Thread Julian Elischer
On 16/12/2016 4:01 PM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, at 23:14, Grzegorz Junka wrote: I heard that ports' SVN is mirrored to Github. Isn't it enough to just create a branch or tag for each quarterly release? Even if quarterly packages are deleted, re-building packages from such br

Re: The ports collection has some serious issues

2016-12-19 Thread Julian Elischer
On 18/12/2016 10:16 AM, John Marino wrote: On 12/17/2016 19:35, Peter Jeremy wrote: $ cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/synth/ && make [ about an hour of grinding away elided ] ===> ini_file_manager-03_2 depends on file: /usr/local/gcc6-aux/bin/ada - not found ===> gcc6-aux-20160822 is only for amd64

Re: New 2017Q1 branch

2017-01-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 2/01/2017 10:39 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: can we ask the server admins to not delete the 1016Q4 pkg collection immediately? it is stable and works while 2017Q1 is not yet in that state. Hi, The 2017Q1 branch has been created. It means that the next update on the quarterly packages will be

Re: FreeBSD Port: samba43-4.3.11_1 and 44 and 45

2017-01-02 Thread Julian Elischer
On 23/12/2016 3:10 AM, Jane wrote:' what this requires is someone to track it.. how about *you* :-) tracking a port and sending in Makefile updates is not too hard if you keep on top of it.. Hi, Is it me or is it lately impossible to keep samba ports updated to their latest security re

Re: suggested patch for bsd.ports.mk

2017-01-03 Thread Julian Elischer
for the task if I'm to do it myself. Julian On 13/05/2016 12:11 AM, Julian Elischer wrote: This patch is pretty self explanatory. it allows us to keep patches for various ports separately in a sparse hierarchy while not having to write to the ports tree itself. In case the list scrubs

Re: suggested patch for bsd.ports.mk

2017-01-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/01/2017 6:31 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: Sometime ago I proposed the following change. I got several "yes please" from members of the public, but no actionable response from members of the ports group So I am asking again. As a src committer I don't feel qualified to do th

Re: suggested patch for bsd.ports.mk

2017-01-03 Thread Julian Elischer
On 3/01/2017 6:44 PM, Vlad K. wrote: On 2017-01-03 11:31, Julian Elischer wrote: Sometime ago I proposed the following change. I got several "yes please" from members of the public, but no actionable response from members of the ports group So I am asking again. I haven't c

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