Re: Cacti staged and migration issue (was Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2014-08-18 Thread Adam McDougall
On 08/15/2014 14:16, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
 Hi!
 
 Consequently, I have no idea how to set the owner/group on those
 directories in stagedir.
 
 As can be seen, with some help I was able to find a solution.
 I also changed the patches to shebangfixes 8-}
 
 But: There's a real issue coming up in
 
 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192618#c13
 
 Can you have a look and probably provide a write-up on how to
 migrate a running cacti install to the new hier(7) setup ?
 

I've been using the updated port since last night on a new server
install, working well so far.  On my old server I would have had to
update the configs but I've been meaning to replace it anyway.  Thanks.

I think it would be a good idea copy or move the pkg-message updated
path tips to /usr/ports/UPDATING to increase chances of it being read.
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Cacti staged and migration issue (was Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2014-08-15 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

 Consequently, I have no idea how to set the owner/group on those
 directories in stagedir.

As can be seen, with some help I was able to find a solution.
I also changed the patches to shebangfixes 8-}

But: There's a real issue coming up in

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192618#c13

Can you have a look and probably provide a write-up on how to
migrate a running cacti install to the new hier(7) setup ?

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-13 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 23:42 -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:31:08PM -0700 I heard the voice of
 Dennis Glatting, and lo! it spake thus:
  
  do_install in the Makefile does the chown.
 
 Generally you'd want to do something more like using @owner/@group in
 plist, rather than chown'ing in the stage.  Doing that would break
 building as non-root, too.

What's the order? plist cannot change owner/group unless it is defined.
Or, does plist execution happen /after/ the make process creates the
owner/group entries?





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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-13 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

 On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 23:42 -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
  On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:31:08PM -0700 I heard the voice of
  Dennis Glatting, and lo! it spake thus:
   
   do_install in the Makefile does the chown.
  
  Generally you'd want to do something more like using @owner/@group in
  plist, rather than chown'ing in the stage.  Doing that would break
  building as non-root, too.
 
 What's the order? plist cannot change owner/group unless it is defined.
 Or, does plist execution happen /after/ the make process creates the
 owner/group entries?

If you some file bin/myfile1 in the pkg-plist which need to be owned by some
user etc, then:

[...]
bin/myfile0
@owner www
@group www
bin/myfile1
@owner root
@group wheel
bin/myfile2
[...]

should probably work. Can you try it ?

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-13 Thread olli hauer
On 2014-08-13 18:37, Dennis Glatting wrote:
 On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 23:42 -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:31:08PM -0700 I heard the voice of
 Dennis Glatting, and lo! it spake thus:

 do_install in the Makefile does the chown.

 Generally you'd want to do something more like using @owner/@group in
 plist, rather than chown'ing in the stage.  Doing that would break
 building as non-root, too.
 
 What's the order? plist cannot change owner/group unless it is defined.
 Or, does plist execution happen /after/ the make process creates the
 owner/group entries?
 


In case the port defines USERS and GROUPS from ports/(U|G)IDs, then
this GROUPS/USERS are created in a early step during port / packet
installation and they are available before pkg-plist is processed.

USERS=  $user (list) from UIDs
GROUPS= $group (list) from GIDs

In case the port requires user / group not in UIDs/GIDs then request
an entry for them.

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-13 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 18:43 +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
 Hi!
 
  On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 23:42 -0500, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
   On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:31:08PM -0700 I heard the voice of
   Dennis Glatting, and lo! it spake thus:

do_install in the Makefile does the chown.
   
   Generally you'd want to do something more like using @owner/@group in
   plist, rather than chown'ing in the stage.  Doing that would break
   building as non-root, too.
  
  What's the order? plist cannot change owner/group unless it is defined.
  Or, does plist execution happen /after/ the make process creates the
  owner/group entries?
 
 If you some file bin/myfile1 in the pkg-plist which need to be owned by some
 user etc, then:
 
 [...]
 bin/myfile0
 @owner www
 @group www
 bin/myfile1
 @owner root
 @group wheel
 bin/myfile2
 [...]
 
 should probably work. Can you try it ?
 

I am setting permissions on directories and the man page for pkg-create
isn't clear. It says:

 @owner user
 Set default ownership for all subsequent files to user.  
 Use without an arg to set back to default (root) ownership.

Perhaps it means files in the generic?

Another issue I is the directories are made in the Makefile (do_install)
because pkg-create doesn't mention a mkdir function. The Porter's
Handbook mentions @exec mkdir however the StageDir WIKI states it is
ignored and directory creation should remain in post-install,
specifically:

Directory creation should remain in the post-install: target (in
particular because pkgng doesn't work like pkg_install in that
area and pkgng ignores the @exec mkdir, and directly packs the
directory even if empty). 

Consequently, I have no idea how to set the owner/group on those
directories in stagedir.







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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-12 Thread Dennis Glatting
Done. Thanks.



On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 06:58 +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
 Hi!
 
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 08:29 +, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
 portname:   net-mgmt/cacti
 description:Web-driven graphing interface for RRDTool
 maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: Not staged. See
 
Deleting Cacti would be a problem.
 
   Can you submit a patch ?
 
  I have a directory tree tested and ready. There are changes, deletions,
  and additions so I did not create a diff tree against what is currently
  in the ports tree.
 
 I normally use
 
 diff -r -u -N old-dir new-dir
 
 to create diffs if there are changes, deletions and additions.
 
 You can also create a shar of the whole directory:
 
 tar cf cacti.shar --format shar cacti
 
  What do I do with this?
 
 Then you can either create a new problem report (PR) on the bug tracker
 and add the shar/diff to that problem report as attachment.
 
 The bug tracker can be found here:
 
 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/
 
 Or you put it on some website, post/mail the URL and I'll create
 the PR.
 


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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-12 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

 Done. Thanks.

Found it at:

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192618

Looks cool!

I'll test it on poudriere, but it's CEST here and I have to get up
early, so it will take probably until tomorrow evening to get to it.

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-12 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Tue, 2014-08-12 at 21:34 +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
 Hi!
 
  Done. Thanks.
 
 Found it at:
 
 https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=192618
 
 Looks cool!
 
 I'll test it on poudriere, but it's CEST here and I have to get up
 early, so it will take probably until tomorrow evening to get to it.
 

Kewlness. I'm interested in what comes out.





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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-12 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

  I'll test it on poudriere, but it's CEST here and I have to get up
  early, so it will take probably until tomorrow evening to get to it.

There is one issue with the ordering of 'add the cacti user/group' and
'using it for a chown', but I do not know the fix right away. Will look
at it when I find a bit more time.

===   Generating temporary packing list
=== Creating users and/or groups.
/bin/mkdir -p 
/usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage//usr/local/share/cacti
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage/var/log/cacti
/bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage/var/db/cacti/rra
/bin/mkdir -p 
/usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage/var/db/cacti/scripts
/usr/sbin/chown -R cacti:cacti 
/usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage/var/log/cacti  
/usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage/var/log/cacti
chown: cacti: illegal group name
*** Error code 1

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-12 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Wed, 2014-08-13 at 06:17 +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
 Hi!
 
   I'll test it on poudriere, but it's CEST here and I have to get up
   early, so it will take probably until tomorrow evening to get to it.
 
 There is one issue with the ordering of 'add the cacti user/group' and
 'using it for a chown', but I do not know the fix right away. Will look
 at it when I find a bit more time.
 
 ===   Generating temporary packing list
 === Creating users and/or groups.
 /bin/mkdir -p 
 /usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage//usr/local/share/cacti
 /bin/mkdir -p /usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage/var/log/cacti
 /bin/mkdir -p 
 /usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage/var/db/cacti/rra
 /bin/mkdir -p 
 /usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage/var/db/cacti/scripts
 /usr/sbin/chown -R cacti:cacti 
 /usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage/var/log/cacti  
 /usr/local/home/pi/myp/net-mgmt/cacti/work/stage/var/log/cacti
 chown: cacti: illegal group name
 *** Error code 1
 

do_install in the Makefile does the chown. The user+group cacti is
defined (USERS+GROUPS) but I guess its installation in passwd/group
comes later in the process. The passwd/group insertion use to be done in
a script in files, which I did away with.

Hmm...




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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-12 Thread Matthew D. Fuller
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 09:31:08PM -0700 I heard the voice of
Dennis Glatting, and lo! it spake thus:
 
 do_install in the Makefile does the chown.

Generally you'd want to do something more like using @owner/@group in
plist, rather than chown'ing in the stage.  Doing that would break
building as non-root, too.


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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-11 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:36 +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
 Hi!
 
  On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 08:29 +, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
   portname:   net-mgmt/cacti
   description:Web-driven graphing interface for RRDTool
   maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
   deprecated because: Not staged. See
 
  Deleting Cacti would be a problem.
 
 Can you submit a patch ?
 

I have a directory tree tested and ready. There are changes, deletions,
and additions so I did not create a diff tree against what is currently
in the ports tree.

What do I do with this?




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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-11 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

   On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 08:29 +, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
portname:   net-mgmt/cacti
description:Web-driven graphing interface for RRDTool
maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
deprecated because: Not staged. See

   Deleting Cacti would be a problem.

  Can you submit a patch ?

 I have a directory tree tested and ready. There are changes, deletions,
 and additions so I did not create a diff tree against what is currently
 in the ports tree.

I normally use

diff -r -u -N old-dir new-dir

to create diffs if there are changes, deletions and additions.

You can also create a shar of the whole directory:

tar cf cacti.shar --format shar cacti

 What do I do with this?

Then you can either create a new problem report (PR) on the bug tracker
and add the shar/diff to that problem report as attachment.

The bug tracker can be found here:

https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/

Or you put it on some website, post/mail the URL and I'll create
the PR.

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-07 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 08:29 +, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
 portname:   net-mgmt/cacti
 description:Web-driven graphing interface for RRDTool
 maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: Not staged. See
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports-announce/2014-May/80.html
 expiration date:2014-08-31
 build errors:   none.
 overview:
 http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=net-mgmtportname=cacti
 
 

Deleting Cacti would be a problem.




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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-07 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

 On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 08:29 +, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
  portname:   net-mgmt/cacti
  description:Web-driven graphing interface for RRDTool
  maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
  deprecated because: Not staged. See

 Deleting Cacti would be a problem.

Can you submit a patch ?

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-07 Thread Dennis Glatting
On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:36 +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
 Hi!
 
  On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 08:29 +, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
   portname:   net-mgmt/cacti
   description:Web-driven graphing interface for RRDTool
   maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
   deprecated because: Not staged. See
 
  Deleting Cacti would be a problem.
 
 Can you submit a patch ?
 

Is it not being maintained?

I hate this tool (Cacti) but I have to support it for a client. If that
means taking over maintenance, then I offer to do so. However, I am not
a port maintainer, although I have done some local stuff, so there is a
learning curve. A mentor would help.

Ditto www/squid where the latest rev is 3.5 but ports is 3.3. I am
running a patched 3.4.






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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-07 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 07.08.2014 um 18:07 schrieb Dennis Glatting:
 On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:36 +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
 Hi!

 On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 08:29 +, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
 portname:   net-mgmt/cacti
 description:Web-driven graphing interface for RRDTool
 maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: Not staged. See

 Deleting Cacti would be a problem.

 Can you submit a patch ?

 
 Is it not being maintained?

No. Setting MAINTAINER=po...@freebsd.org is the placeholder for
unmaintained ports.

 I hate this tool (Cacti) but I have to support it for a client. If that
 means taking over maintenance, then I offer to do so. However, I am not
 a port maintainer, although I have done some local stuff, so there is a
 learning curve. A mentor would help.

We have the Porter's Handbook which is a reasonable starting point,
and we have the ports mailing list here for support - just toss your
questions here.

Regarding staging in particular, we also have
https://wiki.freebsd.org/ports/StageDir.

 Ditto www/squid where the latest rev is 3.5 but ports is 3.3. I am
 running a patched 3.4.

The formalities for a ports maintainer are minimal, your e-mail would
already be sufficient.  Make a copy of the original cacti directory,
change it until you think it's good, then make a diff (diff -Nur
/old/directory /new/directory) and upload it somewhere, or if you think
it's already good to go, file it to our bugzilla and mention the bug ID
here, mentioning you made a patch to make it support staging to prevent
expiry.

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2014-08-07 Thread Kubilay Kocak
On 8/08/2014 2:07 AM, Dennis Glatting wrote:
 On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 17:36 +0200, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
 Hi!

 On Thu, 2014-08-07 at 08:29 +, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
 portname:   net-mgmt/cacti
 description:Web-driven graphing interface for RRDTool
 maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: Not staged. See

 Deleting Cacti would be a problem.

 Can you submit a patch ?

 
 Is it not being maintained?
 
 I hate this tool (Cacti) but I have to support it for a client. If that
 means taking over maintenance, then I offer to do so. However, I am not
 a port maintainer, although I have done some local stuff, so there is a
 learning curve. A mentor would help.

Happy to help out Dennis, and there's more of us on IRC who can support you:

#bsdports - Efnet
#freebsd-ports - Freenode

 
 Ditto www/squid where the latest rev is 3.5 but ports is 3.3. I am
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2013-04-21 Thread Chris Rees
On 21 April 2013 11:55, Koichiro IWAO m...@vmeta.jp wrote:
 2013-04-21 17:30 に lini...@freebsd.org さんは書きました:

 portname:   net-im/rubygem-termtter
 description:Terminal based Twitter client
 maintainer: d...@freebsd.org

 deprecated because: Does not work with Ruby 1.9
 expiration date:2013-05-02
 build errors:   none.
 overview:

 http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=net-importname=rubygem-termtter


 I strongly disagree to delete net-im/rubygem-termtter.
 It is mismarked as BROKEN by portmgr for one year even if it perfectly works
 with ruby 1.9.

Don't worry, GNATS is checked before any ports are deleted; it won't
go anywhere.

Most of us have a load of commits queued during the hard freeze, and
they haven't gone in yet.

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2013-04-21 Thread olli hauer
On 2013-04-21 12:55, Koichiro IWAO wrote:
 2013-04-21 17:30 に lini...@freebsd.org さんは書きました:
 portname:   net-im/rubygem-termtter
 description:Terminal based Twitter client
 maintainer: d...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: Does not work with Ruby 1.9
 expiration date:2013-05-02
 build errors:   none.
 overview:
 http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=net-importname=rubygem-termtter
 
 I strongly disagree to delete net-im/rubygem-termtter.
 It is mismarked as BROKEN by portmgr for one year even if it perfectly works 
 with ruby 1.9.
 

Would you mind to test the following patch (update to 2.1.0).
http://people.freebsd.org/~ohauer/diffs/rubygem-termtter.diff

The patch updates the port to version 2.1.0 (ruby 1.9 is supported since 1.3.x)

Patch is not tested, I avoid to install ruby on my machines.


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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2013-04-21 Thread Koichiro IWAO

I found some problems in your patch.

- probably distinfo is not correct
- net/rubygem-rubytter needs to be updated to 1.5.0 or newer

2013-04-22 3:47 olli hauer wrote:
The patch updates the port to version 2.1.0 (ruby 1.9 is supported 
since 1.3.x)


I can't make out why the port was marked as broken almost 2 years ago.
When the port was marked as broken, PORTVERSION was 1.9.0 (already 
newer than 1.3.x).

It can't be broken with ruby 1.9.

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2013-04-22 3:47 olli hauer wrote:

On 2013-04-21 12:55, Koichiro IWAO wrote:

2013-04-21 17:30 に lini...@freebsd.org さんは書きました:

portname:   net-im/rubygem-termtter
description:Terminal based Twitter client
maintainer: d...@freebsd.org
deprecated because: Does not work with Ruby 1.9
expiration date:2013-05-02
build errors:   none.
overview:
http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=net-importname=rubygem-termtter


I strongly disagree to delete net-im/rubygem-termtter.
It is mismarked as BROKEN by portmgr for one year even if it 
perfectly works with ruby 1.9.




Would you mind to test the following patch (update to 2.1.0).
http://people.freebsd.org/~ohauer/diffs/rubygem-termtter.diff

The patch updates the port to version 2.1.0 (ruby 1.9 is supported 
since 1.3.x)


Patch is not tested, I avoid to install ruby on my machines.


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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-27 Thread Mark Linimon
The problem with portsmon not updating its ports tree has now been
solved.

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-22 Thread Chris Rees

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On 22/12/2011 10:06, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 lini...@freebsd.org wrote:

 portname: misc/gtkfind
 description: The program to use to have to remember all the
 options to find(1)
 maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: No more public distfiles, no more upstream
 expiration date: 2011-12-03
 build errors: none.
 overview:
http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=miscportname=gtkfind

 This was supposed to have been resuscitated. Is its continued
 inclusion here fallout from the svn/cvs issue, or is there another
 problem?

Don't worry, it's still definitely undeprecated :)

Mark, has the tree got out of date again?

Chris
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-21 Thread perryh
lini...@freebsd.org wrote:

 portname:   misc/gtkfind
 description:The program to use to have to remember all the
 options to find(1)
 maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: No more public distfiles, no more upstream
 expiration date:2011-12-03
 build errors:   none.
 overview:   
 http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=miscportname=gtkfind

This was supposed to have been resuscitated.  Is its continued
inclusion here fallout from the svn/cvs issue, or is there another
problem?
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 03:07:44AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
  Also, its last update appears to be in 2003, and it's long dead
 
 s/long dead/in good enough shape to be useful/

Indeed:

Project Activity != Project Health
http://blogstrapping.com/?page=2011.065.16.43.41
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-11 Thread Chris Rees
On 11 December 2011 18:01, Chad Perrin c...@apotheon.net wrote:
 On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 03:07:44AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
  Also, its last update appears to be in 2003, and it's long dead

 s/long dead/in good enough shape to be useful/

 Indeed:

    Project Activity != Project Health
    http://blogstrapping.com/?page=2011.065.16.43.41

Perry, has kindly (and not for the first time either) stepped up to
put his name on the port, which now means that it can stay, and any
problems can be addressed by him.

If he's right he need never answer any emails about it :)

Chris
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-11 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 06:45:48PM +, Chris Rees wrote:
 On 11 December 2011 18:01, Chad Perrin c...@apotheon.net wrote:
  On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 03:07:44AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
  Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:
  
   Also, its last update appears to be in 2003, and it's long dead
 
  s/long dead/in good enough shape to be useful/
 
  Indeed:
 
     Project Activity != Project Health
     http://blogstrapping.com/?page=2011.065.16.43.41
 
 Perry, has kindly (and not for the first time either) stepped up to
 put his name on the port, which now means that it can stay, and any
 problems can be addressed by him.
 
 If he's right he need never answer any emails about it :)

That sounds a bit like the situation with the port I'm maintaining.
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-10 Thread perryh
lini...@freebsd.org wrote:

 portname:   misc/gtkfind
 description:The program to use to have to remember all the options
 to find(1)
 maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: No more public distfiles, no more upstream

Looking at the Makefile, it appears that this port does not claim to
have a MASTER_SITES other than MASTER_SITE_BACKUP, i.e. the FreeBSD
servers.  IOW, it looks as if we _are_ the upstream.

 expiration date:2011-12-03
 build errors:   none.
 overview:   
 http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=miscportname=gtkfind
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-10 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 08:00:05AM -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
  portname:   misc/gtkfind
  description:The program to use to have to remember all the options
  to find(1)
  maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
  deprecated because: No more public distfiles, no more upstream
 
 Looking at the Makefile, it appears that this port does not claim to
 have a MASTER_SITES other than MASTER_SITE_BACKUP, i.e. the FreeBSD
 servers.  IOW, it looks as if we _are_ the upstream.
 
In other word all upstream died and as our mirror were the only place to find
the distfiles $someone add it as a master_site.

regards,
Bapt


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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-10 Thread Chris Rees

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On 10/12/2011 16:00, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 lini...@freebsd.org wrote:

 portname: misc/gtkfind
 description: The program to use to have to remember all the options
 to find(1)
 maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: No more public distfiles, no more upstream

 Looking at the Makefile, it appears that this port does not claim to
 have a MASTER_SITES other than MASTER_SITE_BACKUP, i.e. the FreeBSD
 servers. IOW, it looks as if we _are_ the upstream.

Hm.  Are you interested in using it? I don't mind hosting it but it
could do with a maintainer.  Remember, we're only the upstream if
someone is responsible for it.

Also, its last update appears to be in 2003, and it's long dead

Chris
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-10 Thread perryh
Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:

  portname: misc/gtkfind
...
  Looking at the Makefile, it appears that this port does not
  claim to have a MASTER_SITES other than MASTER_SITE_BACKUP, i.e.
  the FreeBSD servers. IOW, it looks as if we _are_ the upstream.
 
 Hm.  Are you interested in using it? I don't mind hosting it but
 it could do with a maintainer.  Remember, we're only the upstream
 if someone is responsible for it.

I will maintain it if no one else comes forward.

 Also, its last update appears to be in 2003, and it's long dead

s/long dead/in good enough shape to be useful/

:)
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-12-10 Thread Janketh Jay

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On 12/11/2011 04:07 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 Chris Rees cr...@freebsd.org wrote:

 portname: misc/gtkfind
 ...
 Looking at the Makefile, it appears that this port does not
 claim to have a MASTER_SITES other than MASTER_SITE_BACKUP, i.e.
 the FreeBSD servers. IOW, it looks as if we _are_ the upstream.

 Hm. Are you interested in using it? I don't mind hosting it but
 it could do with a maintainer. Remember, we're only the upstream
 if someone is responsible for it.

I can also reliably host this so there is more than one upstream.
Lemme know if you need me. :)



 I will maintain it if no one else comes forward.

 Also, its last update appears to be in 2003, and it's long dead

 s/long dead/in good enough shape to be useful/

 :)

Regards,
Janky Jay, III


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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-10-22 Thread Chris Rees
On 21 October 2011 07:31,  lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
 As part of an ongoing effort to reduce the number of problems in
 the FreeBSD ports system, we periodically schedule removal of ports
 that have been judged to have outlived their usefulness.  Often,
 this is due to a better alternative having become available and/or
 the cessation of development on the existing port.  In some cases,
 ports are marked for removal because they fail to build and install
 correctly from their sources, or otherwise fail in operation.

 The ports, and the reason and date that they have been scheduled
 for removal, are listed below.  If no one has stepped forward before
 that time to propose a way to fix the problems (such as via a PR),
 the ports will be deleted.

 portname:           databases/postgresql-plpython
 description:        A module for using Python to write SQL functions
 maintainer:         po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: (error in parsing Makefile)
 expiration date:    2011-04-02
 build errors:       none.
 overview:           
 http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=databasesportname=postgresql-plpython



How did this one get in this email? It was fixed two weeks ago...

Chris
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-10-22 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov

Chris Rees wrote on 22.10.2011 18:34:

On 21 October 2011 07:31,lini...@freebsd.org  wrote:


portname:   databases/postgresql-plpython
description:A module for using Python to write SQL functions
maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
deprecated because: (error in parsing Makefile)
expiration date:2011-04-02
build errors:   none.
overview:   
http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=databasesportname=postgresql-plpython




How did this one get in this email? It was fixed two weeks ago...

Chris


Looks like that this portsmon working with some outdated ports tree, 
because it builds? (not sure what the name postgresql-plpython-7.4.30_1 
actually mean) with postgresql 7.4, that's marked as deprecated in it's 
ports tree and doesn't exist in current ports tree.


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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-10-22 Thread Mark Linimon
Bitrot on the original portsmon, due to be replaced by a new instance.
Feel free to ignore.

mcl
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-10-08 Thread Chris Rees
On 8 October 2011 10:53,  per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 lini...@freebsd.org wrote:

 portname:           net-mgmt/portmon
 deprecated because: No more public distfiles

 I was able to fetch it earlier today:

 $ ( cd /usr/ports/net-mgmt/portmon  make fetch-recursive )
 === Fetching all distfiles for portmon-2.0 and dependencies
 ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
 ===  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
 = portmon-2.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
 = Attempting to fetch from http://voodoo.bawue.com/download/.
 portmon-2.0.tar.gz                            100% of  104 kB   71 kBps

Looks like a false negative when bapt tested it, I've undeprecated it
since the stated reason is no longer true.

Chris
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-10-08 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 10:27:12AM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
 On 8 October 2011 10:53,  per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
  lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
 
  portname:           net-mgmt/portmon
  deprecated because: No more public distfiles
 
  I was able to fetch it earlier today:
 
  $ ( cd /usr/ports/net-mgmt/portmon  make fetch-recursive )
  === Fetching all distfiles for portmon-2.0 and dependencies
  ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
  ===  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
  = portmon-2.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
  = Attempting to fetch from http://voodoo.bawue.com/download/.
  portmon-2.0.tar.gz                            100% of  104 kB   71 kBps
 
 Looks like a false negative when bapt tested it, I've undeprecated it
 since the stated reason is no longer true.
 

This one in particular as been test for times with in three weeks to make sure
(because I'm a user of it) upstream was down.

I'm happy to see that it is up again.

regards,
Bapt


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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-10-08 Thread Chris Rees
On 8 Oct 2011 23:29, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote:

 On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 10:27:12AM +0100, Chris Rees wrote:
  On 8 October 2011 10:53,  per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
   lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
  
   portname:   net-mgmt/portmon
   deprecated because: No more public distfiles
  
   I was able to fetch it earlier today:
  
   $ ( cd /usr/ports/net-mgmt/portmon  make fetch-recursive )
   === Fetching all distfiles for portmon-2.0 and dependencies
   ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
   ===  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
   = portmon-2.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
   = Attempting to fetch from http://voodoo.bawue.com/download/.
   portmon-2.0.tar.gz100% of  104 kB   71
kBps
 
  Looks like a false negative when bapt tested it, I've undeprecated it
  since the stated reason is no longer true.
 

 This one in particular as been test for times with in three weeks to make
sure
 (because I'm a user of it) upstream was down.

 I'm happy to see that it is up again.


I'll see about sticking the distfiles on my mirror too then, if upstream is
unreliable.

Chris
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-10-07 Thread perryh
lini...@freebsd.org wrote:

 portname:   net-mgmt/portmon
 deprecated because: No more public distfiles

I was able to fetch it earlier today:

$ ( cd /usr/ports/net-mgmt/portmon  make fetch-recursive )
=== Fetching all distfiles for portmon-2.0 and dependencies
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===  License check disabled, port has not defined LICENSE
= portmon-2.0.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
= Attempting to fetch from http://voodoo.bawue.com/download/.
portmon-2.0.tar.gz100% of  104 kB   71 kBps
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Re: Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-25 Thread Chris Rees
On 24 August 2011 14:47, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote:
 On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Peter Jeremy wrote:

   portname:           sysutils/cpuburn

   Actually, the mastersite has been discontinued by the ISP.  It looks
   like it's still available elsewhere but I can't find a replacement
   mastersite.

 
 So this one is correct???

 It seems to be - which is unfortunate.

 Can it be unbroken by using the Internet archive?

   --- Makefile    2 Aug 2011 17:03:41 -       1.9
   +++ Makefile    24 Aug 2011 13:46:21 -
   @@ -9,5 +9,5 @@
     PORTVERSION=   1.4
     CATEGORIES=    sysutils
   -MASTER_SITES=  http://pages.sbcglobal.net/redelm/
   +MASTER_SITES=
  http://web.archive.org/web/20070304200856/http://pages.sbcglobal.net/redelm/
     DISTNAME=      cpuburn_${PORTVERSION:S/./_/g}
     EXTRACT_SUFX=  _tar.gz

 If so, quite a few other victims of this latest purging can be given a new
 life.

Mi,

Matthias recently made reference on this subject, if you care to take a look:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2011-August/223266.html

Thanks for sorting cpuburn by the way.

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-25 Thread Matthias Andree
Am 24.08.2011 15:47, schrieb Mikhail T.:
 On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Peter Jeremy wrote:
   portname:   sysutils/cpuburn
   Actually, the mastersite has been discontinued by the ISP.  It
 looks
   like it's still available elsewhere but I can't find a replacement
   mastersite.
 
 So this one is correct???
 It seems to be - which is unfortunate.
 Can it be unbroken by using the Internet archive?
 
--- Makefile2 Aug 2011 17:03:41 -   1.9
+++ Makefile24 Aug 2011 13:46:21 -
@@ -9,5 +9,5 @@
  PORTVERSION=   1.4
  CATEGORIES=sysutils
-MASTER_SITES=  http://pages.sbcglobal.net/redelm/
+MASTER_SITES=   
 http://web.archive.org/web/20070304200856/http://pages.sbcglobal.net/redelm/
 
  DISTNAME=  cpuburn_${PORTVERSION:S/./_/g}
  EXTRACT_SUFX=  _tar.gz
 
 If so, quite a few other victims of this latest purging can be given a
 new life. Yours,

Wrong way.  Either you become or find the/a new upstream maintainer or
it gets removed.  We don't need to prolong life of otherwise dead
software.  Again, FreeBSD ports are not a museum.  For further
arguments, Chris has linked to an earlier message I'd sent.

If a port is really that important, someone can/will pick it up.
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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-25 Thread Mikhail T.

On 25.08.2011 08:48, Chris Rees wrote:

On 24 August 2011 14:47, Mikhail T.mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com  wrote:


Can it be unbroken by using the Internet archive?

...
If so, quite a few other victims of this latest purging can be given a new
life.



Matthias recently made reference on this subject, if you care to take a look:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-ports/2011-August/223266.html



Thanks for the pointer. I disagree with Matthias very strongly on this -- and 
made my disagreement known in the past. It remains my deeply-held opinion, that 
only those ports, which fail to build, ought to be removed from the tree. I'm 
happy to learn, amdmi3@ is of similar persuasion. Matthias warns, that 
something we mirrored years ago could be missing crucial patches -- but 
that's inevitable even with actively-maintained ports, and FreeBSD, wisely, 
makes no promises of software quality or security.


Matthias' proposal to remove unmaintained ports makes it impossible to find a 
PERFECT program, port it and wash one's hands away from it. Sooner or later 
somebody will come to claim, your software is too old and thus /could/ contain 
security holes, and therefor must be removed. Because we have too many ports 
or something.


Perhaps more importantly, Matthias' argument is different from the problem at 
hand -- he seems to dislike old distfiles, but the current campaign targets not 
the old pieces, but those, for which the master-sites' have disappeared. For 
example, the sources of audio/adpcm date to 1994, but the port only got into 
trouble, when the FTP-site hosting it disappeared from the Internet... Likewise, 
sysutils/cpuburn's sources are from 2003, but the port arose no questions, until 
ATT discontinued subscribers' web-spaces (where the author was hosting the 
distfile) two months ago...


Do we really want to allow ISPs to affect the contents of our ports collection 
in this manner?


If we were really ruled by consensus, these unfortunate ports would've stayed 
because, evidently, there is no consensus, as Dmitry and Matthias discuss at the 
very beginning of the e-mail you linked to...


It appears, that the rule currently being applied, is: remove, if there are no 
master-sites other than FreeBSD's mirrors (the deprecation messages state 
something else, but this is the real meaning). Though this rule is refreshingly 
objective, I still don't like it -- FreeBSD claimed there is a port for it 
long before the catchy there is an app for it, and this remains a major 
selling point for the OS.


But, if the rule's application is unstoppable, then I'd save most of the victims 
of the current purge by switching them to archive.org. It can even be done 
automatically by a clever script... Yours,


   -mi

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Re: Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-24 Thread Mikhail T.

On -10.01.-28163 14:59, Peter Jeremy wrote:

  portname:   sysutils/cpuburn

  Actually, the mastersite has been discontinued by the ISP.  It looks
  like it's still available elsewhere but I can't find a replacement
  mastersite.


So this one is correct???

It seems to be - which is unfortunate.

Can it be unbroken by using the Internet archive?

   --- Makefile2 Aug 2011 17:03:41 -   1.9
   +++ Makefile24 Aug 2011 13:46:21 -
   @@ -9,5 +9,5 @@
 PORTVERSION=   1.4
 CATEGORIES=sysutils
   -MASTER_SITES=  http://pages.sbcglobal.net/redelm/
   +MASTER_SITES= 
   http://web.archive.org/web/20070304200856/http://pages.sbcglobal.net/redelm/

 DISTNAME=  cpuburn_${PORTVERSION:S/./_/g}
 EXTRACT_SUFX=  _tar.gz

If so, quite a few other victims of this latest purging can be given a 
new life. Yours,


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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 22 Aug 2011 22:49, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org wrote:

 On 2011-Aug-21 08:30:13 +0200, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
 portname:   cad/tkgate
 description:A Tcl/Tk based digital circuit editor and simulator
 maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: No more public distfiles
 expiration date:2011-09-01
 build errors:   none.
 overview:
http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=cadportname=tkgate

 I have no problem fetching this port from the mastersite.

I'll take a look.


 portname:   sysutils/cpuburn
 description:CPU/memory stress testing utilities
 maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: No more public distfiles
 expiration date:2011-09-01
 build errors:   none.
 overview:
http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=sysutilsportname=cpuburn

 Actually, the mastersite has been discontinued by the ISP.  It looks
 like it's still available elsewhere but I can't find a replacement
 mastersite.

So this one is correct???

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 August 2011 07:45, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 22 Aug 2011 22:49, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org wrote:

 On 2011-Aug-21 08:30:13 +0200, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
 portname:           cad/tkgate
 description:        A Tcl/Tk based digital circuit editor and simulator
 maintainer:         po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: No more public distfiles
 expiration date:    2011-09-01
 build errors:       none.
 overview:
  http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=cadportname=tkgate

 I have no problem fetching this port from the mastersite.

 I'll take a look.


You're correct, I've undeprecated this one.

Chris

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-23 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2011-Aug-23 07:45:04 +0100, Chris Rees utis...@gmail.com wrote:
On 22 Aug 2011 22:49, Peter Jeremy peterjer...@acm.org wrote:

 On 2011-Aug-21 08:30:13 +0200, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
 portname:   cad/tkgate
 I have no problem fetching this port from the mastersite.

I'll take a look.

Thanks for undeprecating this.

 portname:   sysutils/cpuburn
 Actually, the mastersite has been discontinued by the ISP.  It looks
 like it's still available elsewhere but I can't find a replacement
 mastersite.

So this one is correct???

It seems to be - which is unfortunate.

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Re: audio/adpcm (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2011-08-22 Thread Chris Rees
On 22 August 2011 03:24, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote:
 On -10.01.-28163 14:59, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:

 portname:           audio/adpcm
 description:        An Intel/DVI IMA ADPCM codec library
 maintainer:po...@freebsd.org
 deprecated because: No more public distfiles
 expiration date:    2011-09-01
 build errors:       none.

 overview:http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=audioportname=adpcm

 At least in this particular case, I don't think, the removal is warranted.

 The public distfiles disappeared not because of a deliberate action by the
 developer or copyright-holder, but simply because the entire ftp.cwi.nl is
 now gone. Sites continue to host the file -- we should allow CWI.net to sort
 things out with their FTP-server (or, perhaps, they intend to offer the same
 code over HTTP later).

Could you add those extra sites to MASTER_SITES then please?

Chris
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Re: audio/adpcm (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2011-08-22 Thread Mikhail T.

On 22.08.2011 04:46, Chris Rees wrote:

On 22 August 2011 03:24, Mikhail T.mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com  wrote:

On -10.01.-28163 14:59, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:

portname:   audio/adpcm
description:An Intel/DVI IMA ADPCM codec library
maintainer:po...@freebsd.org
deprecated because: No more public distfiles
expiration date:2011-09-01
build errors:   none.

overview:http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=audioportname=adpcm

At least in this particular case, I don't think, the removal is warranted.

The public distfiles disappeared not because of a deliberate action by the
developer or copyright-holder, but simply because the entire ftp.cwi.nl is
now gone. Sites continue to host the file -- we should allow CWI.net to sort
things out with their FTP-server (or, perhaps, they intend to offer the same
code over HTTP later).

Could you add those extra sites to MASTER_SITES then please?


None of them are official -- and various web-pages continue to refer 
to ftp.cwi.nl as the source.


Since FreeBSD mirrors already provide unofficial mirrors, is there a 
point in adding those at this time?


   -mi

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-22 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2011-Aug-21 08:30:13 +0200, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:
portname:   cad/tkgate
description:A Tcl/Tk based digital circuit editor and simulator
maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
deprecated because: No more public distfiles
expiration date:2011-09-01
build errors:   none.
overview:   
http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=cadportname=tkgate

I have no problem fetching this port from the mastersite.

portname:   sysutils/cpuburn
description:CPU/memory stress testing utilities
maintainer: po...@freebsd.org
deprecated because: No more public distfiles
expiration date:2011-09-01
build errors:   none.
overview:   
http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=sysutilsportname=cpuburn

Actually, the mastersite has been discontinued by the ISP.  It looks
like it's still available elsewhere but I can't find a replacement
mastersite.

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-21 Thread Michel Talon
I notice in the list the port math/pari which is not some obscure
abandonware, but one of the most proeminent free computer algebra software.

So i look at the pari web page and then:

niobe% fetch
http://pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr/pub/pari/unix/pari-2.5.0.tar.gz
pari-2.5.0.tar.gz 100% of 2650 kB 6412 kBps

.


niobe% ./Configure 
Configuring pari-2.5.0 (STABLE) 


Ok. Type make install when you are ready
Bye !

niobe% gmake gp
Making gp in Ofreebsd-i386



niobe% cd Ofreebsd-i386 
niobe% gp-dyn
 GP/PARI CALCULATOR Version 2.5.0
(released)
 i386 running freebsd (ix86/GMP-5.0.1
kernel) 32-bit version
compiled: Aug 21 2011, gcc-4.2.1
20070719  [FreeBSD]
   (readline v6.1 enabled, extended help
enabled)

   Copyright (C) 2000-2011 The PARI
Group

PARI/GP is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and
comes WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY WHATSOEVER.

Type ? for help, \q to quit.
Type ?12 for how to get moral (and possibly technical) support.

parisize = 400, primelimit = 500509
? 5*6
%1 = 30
? 

In other words everything works completely out of the box, without any
intervention. 


After that people will say that the freebsd ports are the best thing
since sliced bread!



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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-21 Thread Chris Rees
On 21 August 2011 10:05, Michel Talon ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr wrote:
 I notice in the list the port math/pari which is not some obscure
 abandonware, but one of the most proeminent free computer algebra software.

 So i look at the pari web page and then:

 niobe% fetch
 http://pari.math.u-bordeaux.fr/pub/pari/unix/pari-2.5.0.tar.gz
 pari-2.5.0.tar.gz                             100% of 2650 kB 6412 kBps

 .


 niobe% ./Configure
 Configuring pari-2.5.0 (STABLE)
 

 Ok. Type make install when you are ready
 Bye !

 niobe% gmake gp
 Making gp in Ofreebsd-i386
 


 niobe% cd Ofreebsd-i386
 niobe% gp-dyn
                                     GP/PARI CALCULATOR Version 2.5.0
 (released)
                             i386 running freebsd (ix86/GMP-5.0.1
 kernel) 32-bit version
                                compiled: Aug 21 2011, gcc-4.2.1
 20070719  [FreeBSD]
                                   (readline v6.1 enabled, extended help
 enabled)

                                       Copyright (C) 2000-2011 The PARI
 Group

 PARI/GP is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and
 comes WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY WHATSOEVER.

 Type ? for help, \q to quit.
 Type ?12 for how to get moral (and possibly technical) support.

 parisize = 400, primelimit = 500509
 ? 5*6
 %1 = 30
 ?

 In other words everything works completely out of the box, without any
 intervention.

Looks like the outdated version we have in ports isn't kept there any
more. Would you like to be the port's new maintainer? We can extend
the expiration date if you work on getting it to work again.

 After that people will say that the freebsd ports are the best thing
 since sliced bread!

Not sure I understand what you're saying here.

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-21 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

 On 21 August 2011 10:05, Michel Talon ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr wrote:
  I notice in the list the port math/pari which is not some obscure
  abandonware, but one of the most proeminent free computer algebra software.
[...]
  In other words everything works completely out of the box, without any
  intervention.
 
 Looks like the outdated version we have in ports isn't kept there any
 more. Would you like to be the port's new maintainer?

I'll have a look at it.

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-21 Thread Chris Rees
On 21 August 2011 15:34, Kurt Jaeger li...@opsec.eu wrote:
 Hi!

 On 21 August 2011 10:05, Michel Talon ta...@lpthe.jussieu.fr wrote:
  I notice in the list the port math/pari which is not some obscure
  abandonware, but one of the most proeminent free computer algebra software.
 [...]
  In other words everything works completely out of the box, without any
  intervention.

 Looks like the outdated version we have in ports isn't kept there any
 more. Would you like to be the port's new maintainer?

 I'll have a look at it.


Can I take that as 'I'll have maintainership please!'?

;)

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2011-08-21 Thread Michel Talon
Kurt Jaeger wrote:

 Looks like the outdated version we have in ports isn't kept there any
 more. Would you like to be the port's new maintainer?

I'll have a look at it.

I have played a little with the FreeBSD port for pari:

One needs to modify very little the Makefile:

CONFIGURE_ARGS= --prefix=${PREFIX} --share-prefix=${PREFIX}/share\
--mandir=${PREFIX}/man/man1 --with-gmp=${LOCALBASE}

This is so that the man pages go to the correct position.


MAJOR_VERSION=  2
MINOR_VERSION=  5
REV_VERSION=0

I think all the emacs stuff has become useless.

The good distinfo is

niobe# cat distinfo
MD5 (pari-2.5.0.tar.gz) = 6077c6db56fdd32e39a06a9bf320e1f7
SHA256 (pari-2.5.0.tar.gz) =
5dc923b001ca0f8664facfafcd91946be63faf8f0e1df4b11bfac80f89ec37a2
MD5 (pari-2.5.0.tar.gz) = 0b595a1345679ff482785a686c863e9f
SIZE (pari-2.5.0.tar.gz) = 2714449


The patch files in files/ don't apply cleanly and are useless, except
patch-config-TOP_Make.SH
which removes compiling the doc. This may be fine because the doc is on
the web site, and requires TeX for compiling. Anyways the doc
compile needs make - gmake (and then works) but i don't know how to 
pass that to the system.

The make install installs less files than what is in pkg-plist.
In /usr/local/bin:
gp gp-2.5 gphelp tex2mail

In /usr/local/include/pari
genpari.h  pari.h paricfg.h  paridecl.h parigen.h  parinf.h
paripriv.h parisys.h
mpinl.hparicast.h paricom.h  parierr.h  pariinl.h  pariold.h
paristio.h paritune.h

In /usr/local/share/pari:

niobe# ls -R /usr/local/share/pari
PARI  doc   examples  misc  pari.desc

/usr/local/share/pari/PARI:
822.pm

/usr/local/share/pari/doc:
Makefile  appd.tex  parimacro.tex refcard.pstutorial.dvi
users.tex usersch3.tex
appa.tex  libpari.dvi   pdfmacs.tex   refcard.tex   tutorial.tex
usersch1.tex  usersch4.tex
appb.tex  paricfg.tex   refcard.dvi   translations  users.dvi
usersch2.tex  usersch5.tex

/usr/local/share/pari/examples:
EXPLAIN Makefilecl.gp   contfrac.gp lucas.gpsqufof.gp
Inputrc bench.gpclassno.gp  extgcd.crho.gp  taylor.gp

/usr/local/share/pari/misc:
READMEcolor.dft gpalias   gpfloggprc.dft  pari.xpm  xgp
niobe# ls -R /usr/local/share/pari
PARI  doc   examples  misc  pari.desc

/usr/local/share/pari/PARI:
822.pm

/usr/local/share/pari/doc:
Makefile  appd.tex  parimacro.tex refcard.pstutorial.dvi
users.tex usersch3.tex
appa.tex  libpari.dvi   pdfmacs.tex   refcard.tex   tutorial.tex
usersch1.tex  usersch4.tex
appb.tex  paricfg.tex   refcard.dvi   translations  users.dvi
usersch2.tex  usersch5.tex

/usr/local/share/pari/examples:
EXPLAIN Makefilecl.gp   contfrac.gp lucas.gpsqufof.gp
Inputrc bench.gpclassno.gp  extgcd.crho.gp  taylor.gp

/usr/local/share/pari/misc:
READMEcolor.dft gpalias   gpfloggprc.dft  pari.xpm  xgp

And finally the man pages in /usr/local/man/man1
gp-2.5.1 gp.1 gphelp.1 pari.1 tex2mail.1
and the compressed versions.

Good luck

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audio/adpcm (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2011-08-21 Thread Mikhail T.

On -10.01.-28163 14:59, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:

portname:   audio/adpcm
description:An Intel/DVI IMA ADPCM codec library
maintainer:po...@freebsd.org
deprecated because: No more public distfiles
expiration date:2011-09-01
build errors:   none.
overview:http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=audioportname=adpcm

At least in this particular case, I don't think, the removal is warranted.

The public distfiles disappeared not because of a deliberate action by 
the developer or copyright-holder, but simply because the entire 
ftp.cwi.nl is now gone. Sites continue to host the file -- we should 
allow CWI.net to sort things out with their FTP-server (or, perhaps, 
they intend to offer the same code over HTTP later).


   -mi

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Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion

2010-02-07 Thread Ruslan Mahmatkhanov

Hi!

07.02.2010 10:30, lini...@freebsd.org пишет:

The ports, and the reason and date that they have been scheduled
for removal, are listed below.  If no one has stepped forward before
that time to propose a way to fix the problems (such as via a PR),
the ports will be deleted.


Can please anybody also pick ports/138639 for removal?
Seems like maintainer (kuriyama) isn't available in almost five months.

Thanks.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/138639
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The state of Ada (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2010-01-08 Thread Mikhail T.

01/-10/37 14:59, lini...@freebsd.org wrote:

portname:   devel/adabindx
description:An Ada-binding to the X Window System and *tif
maintainer:po...@freebsd.org
status: BROKEN
deprecated because: has been broken for 3 months
expiration date:2010-01-08
build errors:   none.
overview:http://portsmon.FreeBSD.org/portoverview.py?category=develportname=adabindx


[...]


It looks like a noticeable share of the ports listed have one thing in 
common -- they depend on Ada.


Various gnat-ports would not even build on anything but i386...

Is Ada-support really in such a bad shape by the GNU-project, or is it 
just a FreeBSD problem?


   -mi

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Re: The state of Ada (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2010-01-08 Thread freebsd-ports
 It looks like a noticeable share of the ports listed have one thing in common 
 -- they depend on Ada.
 
 Various gnat-ports would not even build on anything but i386...
 
 Is Ada-support really in such a bad shape by the GNU-project, or is it just a 
 FreeBSD problem?

'Lo.

Current situtation is this:

I've spent a great deal of time getting GCC 4.4 ported to FreeBSD on
i386 and x86_64. I currently do regular builds of GCC from SVN on
7/8 i386/x86_64, the logs and test results of which are available here:

  http://gcc.coreland.ath.cx/

No binaries, sorry. I'm limited by bandwidth and disk space.

As you can see, GNAT works pretty well on FreeBSD and passes most of
ACATS.

I created the lang/gnat-gcc44 port a couple of months ago and have
worked to ensure that it works on 7/8 i386/x86_64. Unfortunately, there
won't be support for other platforms until somebody else decides to do
the cross compilation and produce bootstrap binaries (it's not particularly
difficult, just time consuming).

  http://coreland.ath.cx/code/gnatport

I've recently written a bsd.gnat.mk file which I hope will soon be
committed to the ports system. This will allow all Ada ports to state
'USE_GNAT=yes' and will remove the requirement to have up to four (!)
different Ada compilers installed in order to use all existing ports
(assuming that they build and work). This also allows one to, for
example, set 'USE_GNAT=gnat-gpl' in /etc/make.conf and use the GNAT GPL
compiler for all ports. This'll currently only work on i386 as the
current version of the compiler seems to lack x86_64 support (maybe the
2010 version will be better).

I'll work on converting all existing ports to this system.

I also have a large number of my own projects to submit (bindings for various
libraries such as SDL, OpenGL, OpenAL and pure Ada libraries).

In short, the current state of Ada on FreeBSD is poor but should shortly
improve exponentially.

M
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Re: The state of Ada (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2010-01-08 Thread John Merryweather Cooper
- Original Message 

From: freebsd-po...@coreland.ath.cx freebsd-po...@coreland.ath.cx
To: John Merryweather Cooper john_m_coo...@yahoo.com
Cc: Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com; ka...@lovetemple.net; 
eisc...@vigrid.com; freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 10:56:38 AM
Subject: Re: The state of Ada (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are 
currently scheduled for deletion)

 It looks like a noticeable share of the ports listed have one thing in common 
 -- they depend on Ada.
 
 Various gnat-ports would not even build on anything but i386...
 
 Is Ada-support really in such a bad shape by the GNU-project, or is it just a 
 FreeBSD problem?

'Lo.

Current situtation is this:

I've spent a great deal of time getting GCC 4.4 ported to FreeBSD on
i386 and x86_64. I currently do regular builds of GCC from SVN on
7/8 i386/x86_64, the logs and test results of which are available here:

  http://gcc.coreland.ath.cx/

No binaries, sorry. I'm limited by bandwidth and disk space.

As you can see, GNAT works pretty well on FreeBSD and passes most of
ACATS.

I created the lang/gnat-gcc44 port a couple of months ago and have
worked to ensure that it works on 7/8 i386/x86_64. Unfortunately, there
won't be support for other platforms until somebody else decides to do
the cross compilation and produce bootstrap binaries (it's not particularly
difficult, just time consuming).

  http://coreland.ath.cx/code/gnatport

I've recently written a bsd.gnat.mk file which I hope will soon be
committed to the ports system. This will allow all Ada ports to state
'USE_GNAT=yes' and will remove the requirement to have up to four (!)
different Ada compilers installed in order to use all existing ports
(assuming that they build and work). This also allows one to, for
example, set 'USE_GNAT=gnat-gpl' in /etc/make.conf and use the GNAT GPL
compiler for all ports. This'll currently only work on i386 as the
current version of the compiler seems to lack x86_64 support (maybe the
2010 version will be better).

I'll work on converting all existing ports to this system.

I also have a large number of my own projects to submit (bindings for various
libraries such as SDL, OpenGL, OpenAL and pure Ada libraries).

In short, the current state of Ada on FreeBSD is poor but should shortly
improve exponentially.

M

USE_GNAT would be a massive improvement.  It would allow the dependent ports to 
potentially strip out the logic necessary to determine which compiler is try to 
build them (and if it will work).

jmc
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Re: The state of Ada (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2010-01-08 Thread Daniel Eischen

On Fri, 8 Jan 2010, John Merryweather Cooper wrote:

Well, the compiler needs to be upgraded to the latest version.  Linux 
gets a compiler out of the box, but we have to bend one to shape. 
Most things stay the same, but there are always subtle differences. 
I'd be happy to help do this (as I'm currently unemployed), but I'm 
also going through a divorce.  You can contact me more directly at 
j.m.cooper at borgsdemons.com.


All the ports that I saw that were broken, were broken
*because* the compiler (lang/gnat) was updated.  Those
ports seemed to be vastly out of date and didn't build
with the latest GPL gnat from ACT.

--
DE
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Re: The state of Ada (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2010-01-08 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 06:56:38PM +, freebsd-po...@coreland.ath.cx wrote:
 I created the lang/gnat-gcc44 port a couple of months ago and have
 worked to ensure that it works on 7/8 i386/x86_64. Unfortunately, there
 won't be support for other platforms until somebody else decides to do
 the cross compilation and produce bootstrap binaries (it's not particularly
 difficult, just time consuming).

IMHO it's not much worth worrying about the state of Ada on our tier-2
architectures.  I just don't see there being any userbase for that.

sparc64 has lots of other ports that need attention more than Ada, and
the other archs ... just need lots of attention.  (Yes, I do know of
people using powerpc and ia64 even as desktops, but they're a small,
brave, minority.)

fwiw, I'm glad you've taken up the banner of fixing this stuff.

mcl
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Re: The state of Ada (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2010-01-08 Thread John Merryweather Cooper
- Original Message 

From: Daniel Eischen deisc...@freebsd.org
To: John Merryweather Cooper john_m_coo...@yahoo.com
Cc: Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com; po...@freebsd.org; 
ka...@lovetemple.net
Sent: Fri, January 8, 2010 11:59:05 AM
Subject: Re: The state of Ada (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are 
currently scheduled for deletion)

On Fri, 8 Jan 2010, John Merryweather Cooper wrote:

 Well, the compiler needs to be upgraded to the latest version.  Linux gets a 
 compiler out of the box, but we have to bend one to shape. Most things stay 
 the same, but there are always subtle differences. I'd be happy to help do 
 this (as I'm currently unemployed), but I'm also going through a divorce.  
 You can contact me more directly at j.m.cooper at borgsdemons.com.

All the ports that I saw that were broken, were broken
*because* the compiler (lang/gnat) was updated.  Those
ports seemed to be vastly out of date and didn't build
with the latest GPL gnat from ACT.

-- DE

That's largely true--I need to take a look and get things going again.  But 
there's still a parallel compiler path that creates problems.  Most ports 
(before being put into the tree) expect to be built with one of the pre-built 
compilers from ACT.  So name and location problems exist.  I'm sorry I've been 
off the wheel but I sold my soul to Microsoft (at least for awhile) . . .

jmc
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Re: The state of Ada (Re: FreeBSD unmaintained ports which are currently scheduled for deletion)

2010-01-08 Thread Mikhail T.

01/08/10 14:59, Daniel Eischen написав(ла):

All the ports that I saw that were broken, were broken
*because* the compiler (lang/gnat) was updated.  Those
ports seemed to be vastly out of date and didn't build
with the latest GPL gnat from ACT. 
Well, I tried to fix one, but my system is amd64, so I couldn't even 
begin... Good to see, somebody is working on it, though...


   -mi

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