Re: Easiest desktop BSD distro

2011-03-29 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 29 Mar 2011 at 13:59:44 PDT Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 02:45:27PM -0500, Jason Hsu wrote: I want to learn BSD. I find that the best way to familiarize myself with a distro is to adopt it as my main distro (for web browsing, email, word processing, etc.). But the

Re: searching for a good IDE

2011-03-27 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 07:02:33 PDT Alokat wrote: On 03/27/11 15:49, Bruce Cran wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 15:41:28 +0200 Alokatmail...@alokat.org wrote: I'm searching for a good IDE for my development stuff - c, c++, python, rails, php Can someone advise one? And I don't wanna use

Re: searching for a good IDE

2011-03-27 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 11:57:46 PDT Chris Brennan wrote: On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Quoth Charlie Kester on Sunday, 27 March 2011: Personally, I prefer vim. ;) +1 Someone will object that the OP asked for an IDE. IMO, vim Integrates

Re: Apple FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 05:51:06 PST Tom Worster wrote: and as far as investing in corporate stock is concerned, oss virtue (like environmental virtue or sweat shop virtue) is just so much marketing blather. a corporation's responsibility is to make money for its investors. business ethics is and

Re: Apple FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 09 Mar 2011 at 14:00:37 PST Nerius Landys wrote: This is not a technical question. Basically I have some cash sitting around. I'm thinking of investing part of it with a company that I believe in. Apple came to mind. You could say that I'd like to judge Apple's moral character before

Re: Apple FreeBSD relationship

2011-03-10 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 10:48:05 PST Jerry wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:04 -0800 Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net articulated: On Thu 10 Mar 2011 at 05:51:06 PST Tom Worster wrote: and as far as investing in corporate stock is concerned, oss virtue (like environmental virtue or sweat

Re: HAL must die!

2011-03-07 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 07 Mar 2011 at 09:00:14 PST Chad Perrin wrote: Did you know you can configure YouTube to use HTML5 instead of Flash now? Adobe is in danger of becoming irrelevant. Meh. I never watch videos on the website anyway. I download them with cclive, as mp4's. Not sure what any of this

Re: Bug report marked [regression]

2011-03-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 06 Mar 2011 at 10:58:57 PST Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 6 Mar 2011, Lars Eighner wrote: If my bug report is marked [regression] what does that mean? Am I a troglodyte or a Luddite or something? Regression is something that used to work but doesn't any more. Like me. I'm retired

Re: Purchased Binaries

2011-03-04 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 04 Mar 2011 at 13:24:32 PST Doug Hardie wrote: I have a client who has purchased some software. I don't know anything much about it yet other than it claims to run on Debian and CentOS. I suspect its binaries. I will have access to things like the developer, name etc. on Monday. However,

Re: Build error nasm

2011-03-02 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 02 Mar 2011 at 08:56:25 PST Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list Trying to build nasm-2.09.04,1 Bails out at cc -c -O2 -pipe -fno-strict-aliasing -W -Wall -std=c99 -pedantic -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -o regdis.o regdis.c cc -o ndisasm ndisasm.o disasm.o sync.o nasmlib.o ver.o insnsd.o

Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-19 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 19 Feb 2011 at 13:50:22 PST Mike Jeays wrote: On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 16:37:14 -0500 Alfredo Perez alfredo...@gmail.com wrote: I am missing them all, can you upload them somewhere? They are all online at bsdmag.org I think they'd like you to subscribe to their newsletter before

Re: BSD Magazine PDFs

2011-02-18 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 18 Feb 2011 at 08:13:19 PST MFV wrote: Hello, I've been downloading BSD Mag since it first came out and your list is identical to mine. Same here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Best Laptop to buy for Freebsd Without OS?

2011-02-17 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 17 Feb 2011 at 10:43:24 PST Jorge Biquez wrote: Hello all. I am evaluating to buy a new laptop for using it only with Freebsd. I know in the website mention some options. Thing is that here the most powerful ones (I3, I5 I7) are sold ONLY with Windows installed and that increase the

Re: Could any port be sucking up bandwidth?

2011-01-25 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 25 Jan 2011 at 22:49:40 PST Gary Kline wrote: Guys, Before the 11th of January I was streaming both audio and video streams with little to zero wait time. In other words, I could stream about 50 minutes of audio with only a second or two of pause time delay [[AKA congestion]]. After

Re: putting /tmp to memory

2011-01-23 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 23 Jan 2011 at 11:13:23 PST Terrence Koeman wrote: -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of kellyremo Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 14:47 To: FreeBSD Subject: putting /tmp to memory Importance: High

Re: Colorized compiler/linker messages

2011-01-22 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 22 Jan 2011 at 18:00:52 PST Michael D. Norwick wrote: Good Day, I have seen this for some time when building ports and was wondering how it was done. GCC when compiling and linking certain programs, ebook for example, emits messages in various colors. How is that done? Where does

Re: How to adjust man page line length [SOLVED]

2011-01-20 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 19 Jan 2011 at 21:36:19 PST David Kelly wrote: On Jan 19, 2011, at 10:51 PM, David J. Weller-Fahy wrote: [...] That did the job, but made `man -k`, which my fingers find familiar, unusable. I remembered you were running a CURRENT snapshot, so figured I'd check the difference between

Re: Where to post FreeBSD tutorials?

2010-12-30 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 30 Dec 2010 at 17:17:31 PST Xn Nooby wrote: If I write a document about how to do something with FreeBSD, is there a good place to post it, or a link to it? Something like how to edit a video in FreeBSD, not official documentation. I usually have to google things to find them, and often

Re: Problem with dbus update

2010-12-29 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 27 Dec 2010 at 15:10:35 PST Charlie Kester wrote: On Mon 27 Dec 2010 at 12:13:32 PST Alexander Konotop wrote: Same problem. It's seems like it's not hanging, but awaiting of something. We've been discussing this on the forums. The problem seems to be that textproc/man2html is broken

Re: How to build a BROKEN port?

2010-12-29 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 29 Dec 2010 at 17:31:37 PST Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Giorgos == Giorgos Keramidas keram...@ceid.upatras.gr writes: Giorgos Edit it's 'Makefile'. Look for an assignment of the form: Minor nit... that's its not it's. If you can't say it is or it has in place, then it's its, not it's.

Re: Problem with dbus update

2010-12-27 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 27 Dec 2010 at 12:13:32 PST Alexander Konotop wrote: Same problem. It's seems like it's not hanging, but awaiting of something. We've been discussing this on the forums. The problem seems to be that textproc/man2html is broken. Warren Block pointed out that if you deinstall man2html,

Re: printer recommendations?

2010-12-20 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 20 Dec 2010 at 19:53:32 PST Reed Loefgren wrote: On 12/20/10 18:05, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 12:25:03 -0800, David Brodbeckg...@gull.us wrote: On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:42 AM, Charlie Kestercorky1...@comcast.net wrote: As a last gasp effort, I gave my LJ4+ a thorough

Re: bash increment in a given way

2010-12-11 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 11 Dec 2010 at 06:34:20 PST S Mathias wrote: It's ok, that i can use this, when i want an incrementing sequence, in a given way: # {START..END..INCREMENT} $ for i in {0..10..2}; do echo Welcome $i times; done Welcome 0 times Welcome 2 times Welcome 4 times Welcome 6 times Welcome 8

Re: bash increment in a given way

2010-12-11 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 11 Dec 2010 at 09:57:08 PST Charlie Kester wrote: On Sat 11 Dec 2010 at 06:34:20 PST S Mathias wrote: It's ok, that i can use this, when i want an incrementing sequence, in a given way: # {START..END..INCREMENT} $ for i in {0..10..2}; do echo Welcome $i times; done Welcome 0 times

Re: printer recommendations?

2010-12-08 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 07 Dec 2010 at 23:39:26 PST Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 21:57:49 -0800, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: My LJ4+ was connected via parallel and I never noticed any problems with error messages or the speed. Error messages: This started with FreeBSD 7. The system

Re: printer recommendations?

2010-12-03 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 03 Dec 2010 at 19:29:52 PST Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 19:26:43 -0700 (MST), Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: The last time I used parallel on FreeBSD, it was slow...well, slower than expected. Haven't really tested USB printers for speed. Ethernet is superior in many

printer recommendations?

2010-12-02 Thread Charlie Kester
My old HP Laserjet 4+ is broken and I'm thinking about buying a new printer. I'd appreciate hearing recommendations from the list. My requirements: - Compatible with FreeBSD (obviously) - Laserjet preferred. Black White only. I don't need to print photos or business brochures. - Very

Re: new user questions. (Before I back myself into a corner!)

2010-11-27 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 26 Nov 2010 at 14:31:23 PST Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Polytropon on Friday, 26 November 2010: FIVE! Using a tiling window manager like xmonad, just open another xterm. Either share a workspace between them, or put one of them in a different workspace, depending on whether you like to be

Re: new user questions. (Before I back myself into a corner!)

2010-11-23 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 23 Nov 2010 at 17:43:32 PST Beech Rintoul wrote: On Tuesday 23 November 2010 13:55:51 Dave wrote: SNIP Have a small web server, again I've read that Apache can do a good job, but I don't want (nor need) all it's facilities, in particular I need to lock it down so no Put's can happen

Re: JMicron JMB363 PCIe controler doesn't work

2010-11-15 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 15 Nov 2010 at 00:32:37 PST Wojciech Puchar wrote: the only way to make ANY discussion forum usable is to have moderation and clear rules of posting. Otherwise it will be destroyed. Buy random people or actually by someone spreading nonsense willingfully. Or both I notice that

Re: History of C (Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?)

2010-11-14 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 14 Nov 2010 at 16:29:10 PST Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 02:39:32PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: About 2000, 2001 was when I shucked my muuz game/mind-machine effort. It was over 10K line of C-ish code that I rehacked into C++. Figured since C++ was

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-12 Thread Charlie Kester
Since this discussion refuses to die, I hope the participants will heed my suggestion and collect the results on a webpage somewhere so we don't have to go over it all many times again in the future. So far, I haven't seen anything said that wasn't already said five, ten, fifteen or even twenty

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 15:44:01 PST Chris Brennan wrote: Must we continue to beat this already dead horse? Apparently the answer is yes, when we're not beating the equally dead horse of the CLI vs GUI debate. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 16:05:33 PST Gary Gatten wrote: Let's start a thread listing dead horses to beat: M$ vs Novell Unix vs Linux Mainframe vs PC DAS vs SAN Top-posting vs Bottom posting Blah blah blah vs Yada yada yada OK, I'll play: Gnome vs KDE Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's) GPL vs BSDL C

Re: Why do you use a devil as a mascot?

2010-11-12 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 12 Nov 2010 at 16:47:40 PST Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Charlie == Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net writes: Charlie OK, I'll play: Charlie Gnome vs KDE Charlie Ports vs Packages (vs PBI's) Charlie GPL vs BSDL Charlie C vs any other programming language Perl vs Readability Coming

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 08 Nov 2010 at 02:06:24 PST Matthias Apitz wrote: I think this philosofic discussion has little or nothing todo with FreeBSD. Could you move this elsewhere, or off-list? Thanks It's also a very very OLD argument. Surely the debating points have already been collected on a webpage

Re: [OT] writing filters in sh

2010-10-28 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 28 Oct 2010 at 13:52:27 PDT Chip Camden wrote: stage_directionSmacks forehead as if starring in a V-8 commercial/stage_direction A friend of mine used to call that a Neanderthal Moment. (Smack your forehead, shrug your shoulders, and imagine it is reshaping your body.)

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 05 Oct 2010 at 06:25:05 PDT Mark Blackman wrote: Jon Radel wrote: I'm somewhat unclear on how that follows. Might it not be that many manufacturers, busily dealing with Microsoft, and easing into Linux now that it has significant mindshare, have simply decided that there's no economic

Re: Which OS for notebook

2010-10-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 06 Oct 2010 at 07:31:58 PDT Mark Blackman wrote: Charlie Kester wrote: On Tue 05 Oct 2010 at 06:25:05 PDT Mark Blackman wrote: There's also the whole train of thought that says FreeBSD isn't really aimed at the desktop/laptop/notebook use model and any benefit in that arena is entirely

Re: PDF to HTML translations

2010-09-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 12:02:07 PDT Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: I've started looking at the Xpdf tools as well as pdftohtml. Other suggestions from within ports would be appreciated. Additional options other than what can be found in ports might also be useful,

Re: PDF to HTML translations

2010-09-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 16:09:41 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: On Mon 06 Sep 2010 at 12:02:07 PDT Warren Block wrote: On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: I've started looking at the Xpdf tools as well as pdftohtml. Other suggestions from within ports would be appreciated. Additional options

Re: well, i guess it's time to ask.....

2010-08-18 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 18 Aug 2010 at 20:16:51 PDT Depo Catcher wrote: On 8/18/2010 8:10 PM, Gary Kline wrote: 've hesitated. on my 3.0gh thinkpad, streams fly flawlessly. So if i buy one of the notebooks with a Stream what kind of movies? Some video players (like VLC) have hardware acceleration that

Re: Upgrading ports while processes are running.

2010-08-17 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 17 Aug 2010 at 15:05:27 PDT Danny Carroll wrote: I wonder what happens when you upgrade a port, don't restart, then the following week upgrade it again hmmm. I don't think it would be any different than not restarting it after the first upgrade (assuming the port doesn't try to

Re: OT: Open source will testament software

2010-08-04 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 04 Aug 2010 at 11:51:17 PDT Gary Kline wrote: There actually are a some boiler-plate files of [[CANNED]] wills out there. ---i found and filled one such out several years ago, but eventually deleted the file. i figure that it really =is= worth paying $75

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-25 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 00:57:14 PDT per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: This discussion has drifted badly OT Yes, and it really should be killed, now. Please. My thanks to those few who did NOT take it as an occasion for Christian-bashing. I'm not a Christian either, but I do get tired of it being

Re: BSD logo

2010-07-25 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 14:42:14 PDT Matthew Seaman wrote: Besides, I suspect that the OP was not in fact genuinely offended but merely trying to stir up trouble Which makes it all the more disappointing that so many of you took the bait. I stand by my previous comments. Please end this

Re: I donot like using mergemaster ?

2010-07-25 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 25 Jul 2010 at 18:17:09 PDT zaxis wrote: I want to upgrade my freebsd 8.0 to 8.1. I have read all the steps about upgrading freebsd. I feel mergemaster is difficult to use e.g. which parameters should i use ? (you may wish to use -U or -ai or -Fi) I usually use -p when invoking

Re: PDF storage software recommendations?

2010-06-18 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 17 Jun 2010 at 19:57:03 PDT Polytropon wrote: Maybe my answer will sound low level, but it works - REALLY works - and works with mostly every kind of data. It's good to see someone recommending a true Unix-style solution. :) ___

Re: concerning flash under freebsd

2010-06-15 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 15 Jun 2010 at 15:11:47 PDT Programmer in Training wrote: Don't install it. isn't a valid option. Sure it is. The fact that it's an option you don't want to accept doesn't make it invalid. I also take issue with the well use a supported OS schtick. I will tell Adobe to provide a

Re: freebsd - for the win

2010-06-12 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 12 Jun 2010 at 13:12:55 PDT Chip Camden wrote: Call me fatalistic, but I think there is a direct relationship between FreeBSD's high quality and it's lack of popularity. If it catered to the common herd, its compromises would be many. I think we're straying from the original topic,

Re: freebsd - for the win

2010-06-12 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 12 Jun 2010 at 18:17:22 PDT Michelle Konzack wrote: Hello Charlie Kester, Am 2010-06-12 15:51:32, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: I worked at Microsoft Developer Support in a previous life, beginning at the time that Visual C++ and MFC were first introduced. Hahaha, you where Killed

Re: office apps

2010-06-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 01:34:16PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it up and open a spreadsheet. Short of the full suite,

Re: office apps

2010-06-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 21:44:45 PDT Alejandro Imass wrote: On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:38 AM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: On Sun 06 Jun 2010 at 20:56:50 PDT Chad Perrin wrote: [...] I'm not sure what to do with PPT's.  Can PowerPoint save to PDF, which is what almost everyone

Re: which is the basic differences between the shells?

2010-06-05 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 05 Jun 2010 at 16:24:36 PDT Alejandro Imass wrote: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas terie...@gmail.com wrote: hello, i am coming from the linux world where i was using the bash shell but i found out that there are also much more. can u tell me the basic differences

Re: unexpected operator .sh error

2010-05-31 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 31 May 2010 at 19:58:41 PDT Aiza wrote: Chris Hill wrote: On Tue, 1 Jun 2010, Aiza wrote: Added some code to a .sh script. When I run the script works but issues this message [: =: unexpected operator No line number telling where to look. I am not ever sure its talking about. IS [:

Re: Problem compiling lsof

2010-05-25 Thread Charlie Kester
On Tue 25 May 2010 at 11:17:36 PDT Arthur Barlow wrote: I did this and sure enough vm_memattr_t is defined as a parameter in a typedef as follows: typedef int d_mmap2_t (struc cdev *dev, vm_offset_t offset, vm_paddr_t *paddr, int nprot, vm_memattr_t *memattr); So the question is, why

Re: Problem compiling lsof

2010-05-24 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 24 May 2010 at 18:54:11 PDT Lowell Gilbert wrote: Arthur Barlow arthurbar...@gmail.com writes: Sorry about the false start. Fat fingers. I'm trying to compile the lsof program in FreeBSD 8.0 on an i686 machine. There is a error referencing dlsof.h and it looks like there is an ugly

Re: Problem compiling lsof

2010-05-24 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 24 May 2010 at 20:24:49 PDT Arthur Barlow wrote: [r...@uranus /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof]# HASPSEUDOFS -DHASNULLFS -DHASIPv6 -DHAS_STRFTIME -DLSOF_VSTR=\8.0-STABLE\) cc -pipe -march=athlon -fno-strict-aliasing -march=athlon -DHASEFFNLINK=i_effnlink -DHASF_VNODE -DHASSBSTATE

Re: Problem compiling lsof

2010-05-24 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 24 May 2010 at 21:55:01 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: The Configure script grep's for vm_memattr_t in ${LSOF_INCLUDE}/sys/conf.h and sets HAS_VM_MEMATTR_T if the grep succeeds. The build failure tells us that your /usr/src/sys/conf.h uses vm_memattr_t, so it seems the Configure is testing

Re: How long do you go without upgrading FreeBSD to a newer release?

2010-05-16 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 16 May 2010 at 08:42:44 PDT Dan Naumov wrote: Just a thought/question that has recently come to my mind: How long do you usually wait until upgrading to a newer release of FreeBSD? My machines are all for personal use only, and it wouldn't be a disaster if any of them went down for an

Re: diablo-jdk not installing correctly

2010-04-25 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 25 Apr 2010 at 17:57:27 PDT Jonathan Chen wrote: On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 07:34:19PM -0400, herbey zepeda wrote: [...] I am concerned because according to the literature diablo is supposed to be the maintained jdk for FreeBSD. And I realize that I am having to download version 7.1 when

Re: Build error with mplayer

2010-04-12 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 12 Apr 2010 at 17:50:58 PDT Neil Short wrote: Am I missing something? dvb_tune.c:33:19: error: error.h: No such file or directory It's a known problem. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/145437 ___

Re: are the are C [or C++] src sites ....

2010-04-11 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 11 Apr 2010 at 15:39:16 PDT Gary Kline wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:45:15PM -0700, Charlie Kester wrote: i used more strict search terms and found around 30 sites. none seemed that promising. what i am thinking of is functions that work in any

Re: perl links

2010-04-10 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 10 Apr 2010 at 09:26:33 PDT Randal L. Schwartz wrote: parv == parv p...@pair.com writes: parv So, you are the guilty one. By that logic, every software should parv assume some location, so that people can have fun with link farm parv maintainance. Keep in mind, the scene has changed

Re: are the are C [or C++] src sites ....

2010-04-10 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 10 Apr 2010 at 08:19:38 PDT Gary Kline wrote: Sites of parts of websites that have example C functions? [continuing from the ^Subject. I have googled around and found practically nothing; yet, wen I was looking for a math function I found at least two

Re: Online school for FreeBSD

2010-04-10 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 10 Apr 2010 at 16:14:36 PDT David Newman wrote: On 4/10/10 3:08 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 09:34:59PM -0800, jt wrote: I've been doing searches for online schools that teach FreeBSD. I've been trying to learn on an off for years but when it

Re: usage of /usr/bin

2010-04-07 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 07 Apr 2010 at 00:24:51 PDT Fbsd1 wrote: Why are there RELEASE base files in /usr/bin. I thought /usr was to only contain binaries installed from ports or packages. In many configurations, /bin and /usr/bin are not in the same slice. In some cases, they're not even on the same drive.

Re: usage of /usr/bin

2010-04-07 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 07 Apr 2010 at 10:13:10 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: Think about scenarios where /usr fails to mount for some reason. Then look at what's in /bin compared to what's in /usr/bin, and perhaps you'll understand the logic of it. I should add that comparing the contents of /usr/sbin and /sbin

Re: Creating multiple directories simultaneously

2010-03-26 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 26 Mar 2010 at 04:44:56 PDT Jerry wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:32:58 +, Daniel Bye freebsd-questi...@slightlystrange.org articulated: On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 07:12:48AM -0400, Jerry wrote: I could have sworn that I saw a method of creating several directories, actually a parent

Re: Creating multiple directories simultaneously

2010-03-26 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 26 Mar 2010 at 08:49:08 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: Understand how this works, however, so you won't need to look it up again, but can apply it yourself in whatever variation is needed. It's called brace expansion. For extra credit, and to test your understanding, see if you can explain

Re: Creating multiple directories simultaneously

2010-03-26 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 26 Mar 2010 at 10:01:21 PDT Jerry wrote: On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:28:15 -0700, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net articulated: For extra credit, and to test your understanding, see if you can explain how the following work: $ mkdir -p FOO/{foo-,bar-}{1,2,3} $ cp foo{,.bak} Maybe I

Re: Patch Submission to a Port

2010-03-22 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 22 Mar 2010 at 14:50:03 PDT Alejandro Imass wrote: Hi, I have finally tested and verified a patch for /usr/ports/graphics/sane-backends To whon or where should I submit it? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/porting-submitting.html

Re: Patch Submission to a Port

2010-03-22 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 22 Mar 2010 at 15:08:43 PDT Charlie Kester wrote: On Mon 22 Mar 2010 at 14:50:03 PDT Alejandro Imass wrote: Hi, I have finally tested and verified a patch for /usr/ports/graphics/sane-backends To whon or where should I submit it? http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books

Re: OT: dead box

2010-03-21 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sun 21 Mar 2010 at 11:26:55 PDT Frank Shute wrote: On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 09:08:44AM -0400, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Murphy never said anything about *when* things go wrong... But the swine said they *would* go wrong...;) Hey, don't shoot the messenger! On second thought, perhaps that

Re: Elegant way to hack port source

2010-03-19 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 19 Mar 2010 at 10:01:59 PDT Roland Smith wrote: On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:35:30PM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: Hi, I need to modify a file from a port before building. Specifically, the sane-backends pnm.c driver has a bug and the folks at the original project has not fixed for a

Re: Elegant way to hack port source

2010-03-19 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 19 Mar 2010 at 13:06:41 PDT Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Charlie == Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net writes: Charlie Whenever I modify a port like this, I usually make a copy of it under Charlie root's home directory and install it from there. That way, I can keep Charlie my copy

Re: Elegant way to hack port source

2010-03-19 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 19 Mar 2010 at 14:34:23 PDT Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Friday, March 19, 2010 17:04:17 -0400 Alejandro Imass a...@p2ee.org wrote: To the O.P.: How about submiting the patch to the community so it can be added by the port maintainer?  If it actually fixes a bug in the software you can't

Re: Elegant way to hack port source

2010-03-19 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 19 Mar 2010 at 15:07:44 PDT Paul Schmehl wrote: --On Friday, March 19, 2010 15:01:27 -0700 Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: Again, no need for the separate 'make extract' step. In fact, I'd go straight to 'make build' or 'make install' here, and skip the separate 'make patch

Re: How to send a patch in a proper way?

2010-03-19 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 19 Mar 2010 at 15:20:49 PDT Adam PAPAI wrote: Hi, As of today I'll try to help and create bugfix patches for usr/src and usr/ports. I've already done 2 patches and posted it to the -current list but don't really know what is the best way to post the patches. Who will check them? who

Re: Elegant way to hack port source

2010-03-19 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 19 Mar 2010 at 16:02:45 PDT Greg Larkin wrote: The makepatch target recurses through the work/foobar directory and creates diffs for all file.ext/file.ext.orig pairs. It writes them to the files/ directory with the patch- prefix on each so the patch target processes them. Now it's my

Re: Which gdb GUI do you use?

2010-03-18 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 18 Mar 2010 at 00:15:30 PDT Yuri wrote: I know there is ddd, but it has so many bugs that it makes it barely usable. There is emacs, but I am not used to it and don't like it. It's love it or hate it usually for most people. There is some GUI called Insight, for some reason it's not in

Re: API to find the memory usage of a process.

2010-03-18 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 18 Mar 2010 at 18:30:00 PDT J. Johnston wrote: On 03/18/10 10:28, Jayadev Kumar wrote: Hi, I need to find the memory usage of a process, from inside the process. Is there any system call do this ? I was trying to find it from 'top' utility source code. I couldn't find the port

Re: Any generic way to fix problem that configure doesn't find libraries in /usr/local/lib?

2010-02-24 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 24 Feb 2010 at 12:05:10 PST Yuri wrote: Every time I run configure script it fails to find libraries in /usr/local/lib because it has some hard-coded paths not including /usr/local/lib and /usr/local/lib. Every time I need to edit configure to fix it up. Is there any generic tool or

Re: Intel D510MO Mini-ITX Motherboard - Is anyone using FreeBSD on this?

2010-01-29 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 29 Jan 2010 at 01:36:15 PST Dan Naumov wrote: Reports of successes with both adm64 andi386 versions of 8.0-RELEASE and Intel D510MO board have been showing up on a few different discussion forums now. I have to correct myself in regard to the Supermicro X7SPA-H board. The board seems to

Re: Xorg Not Finding AGP Card

2010-01-29 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 29 Jan 2010 at 12:15:03 PST Programmer In Training wrote: First time I installed FreeBSD (yes, there was a first time, I managed to hose the root account and had to start over again) I was asked something about whether or not my vid card was PCI or AGP. I answered AGP (as that is all I

Re: Intel D510MO Mini-ITX Motherboard - Is anyone using FreeBSD on this?

2010-01-28 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 25 Jan 2010 at 02:00:47 PST Charlie Kester wrote: http://www.mini-box.com/D510MO-mini-ITX-Intel I'm thinking of ordering one of these motherboards, which have the newest dual-core Atom processor and NM10 chipset. I'm intrigued by its low-power, fanless operation. I already have FreeBSD

Intel D510MO Mini-ITX Motherboard - Is anyone using FreeBSD on this?

2010-01-25 Thread Charlie Kester
http://www.mini-box.com/D510MO-mini-ITX-Intel I'm thinking of ordering one of these motherboards, which have the newest dual-core Atom processor and NM10 chipset. I'm intrigued by its low-power, fanless operation. I already have FreeBSD running on one of the older Atom mobo's, so I know not to

Re: Intel D510MO Mini-ITX Motherboard - Is anyone using FreeBSD on this?

2010-01-25 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 25 Jan 2010 at 03:14:42 PST Dan Naumov wrote: Not to steal your discussion thread, but I thought I'd ask (and you'd perhaps too be interested) what's the status of FreeBSD on these 2: Supermicro X7SPA-H: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPA.cfm?typ=H Supermicro

Re: Tuning for very little RAM

2010-01-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 04:25:31 PST Bill Moran wrote: In response to Da Rock freebsd-questi...@herveybayaustralia.com.au: Its been a while- work's has been keeping me very busy for months now. I have revived an old laptop which has very little RAM, and it is absolutely hammering the swap. I'm

Re: Tuning for very little RAM

2010-01-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 09:21:06 PST Charlie Kester wrote: For some ideas on which apps to try, look at the apps bundled in some of the Linux distros that target small machines. http://bengross.com/smallunix.html has a good list of these distros. Hmm, I probably should have checked

Re: Tuning for very little RAM

2010-01-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 09:52:32 PST Warren Block wrote: On Wed, 6 Jan 2010, Charlie Kester wrote: Assuming you have to use X, you'll want to avoid heavyweight desktop environments like KDE or Gnome. I like tiled window managers like musca or dwm myself, but your skeptics will probably want

Re: Tuning for very little RAM

2010-01-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 11:02:49 PST Kaya Saman wrote: [...] I don't think we want to hijack this thread or this forum and turn it into a debate over which window managers and apps are best. As I pointed out in my followup to my original reply, there's already a voluminous discussion on those

Re: Abiword window corruption

2010-01-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 13:16:51 PST Warren Block wrote: With the recent mentions of Abiword, I've reinstalled it. Yet it has the same problem it had the last time I tried it: random pixels under the current row of text, the old cursor isn't erased when you move to a different line. Am I the

Re: Abiword window corruption

2010-01-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 13:52:53 PST Charlie Kester wrote: On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 13:16:51 PST Warren Block wrote: With the recent mentions of Abiword, I've reinstalled it. Yet it has the same problem it had the last time I tried it: random pixels under the current row of text, the old cursor

Re: Abiword window corruption

2010-01-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 14:16:55 PST Charlie Kester wrote: I just remembered that I had implemented a tip I got somewhere for forcing use of the condensed versions of the DejaVu fonts. For the curious, here's where I got that tip: http://keramida.wordpress.com/2009/11/07/dejavu-condensed

Re: Abiword window corruption

2010-01-06 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 14:16:55 PST Charlie Kester wrote: On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 13:52:53 PST Charlie Kester wrote: On Wed 06 Jan 2010 at 13:16:51 PST Warren Block wrote: With the recent mentions of Abiword, I've reinstalled it. Yet it has the same problem it had the last time I tried

Re: What happened to /home?

2009-12-23 Thread Charlie Kester
On Wed 23 Dec 2009 at 22:33:20 PST Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:40:13 -0800, Rem P Roberti remeg...@comcast.net wrote: On 2009.12.24 00:21:47 +, Pieter de Goeje wrote: On Thursday 24 December 2009 00:01:11 Rem P Roberti wrote: Today I booted my laptop and discovered

Re: Root exploit for FreeBSD

2009-12-12 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 11 Dec 2009 at 20:59:57 PST Robert Huff wrote: Ulf Zimmermann writes: Just go to Fry's Electronic. Most of their systems are still MS-Dos with Novell for network, running text based inventory/quote/sales app. Ca _lot_ of small businesses have something similar. And why

Re: malformed man pages

2009-12-04 Thread Charlie Kester
On Fri 04 Dec 2009 at 22:38:22 PST Sagara Wijetunga wrote: Michael Powell wrote: Sagara Wijetunga wrote: [snip] We use /usr/bin/less from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/less, the less-382.tar.gz, unpatched. Why? Does the less need to be patched in FreeBSD? If so, is there such a patch exist?

Re: Newbie questions (updating, ports, etc.)

2009-12-03 Thread Charlie Kester
On Thu 03 Dec 2009 at 01:13:39 PST Richard Mace wrote: I recently installed FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE on my home desktop and am considering making the switch from Debian GNU/Linux. I have a few questions which I am hoping the list can clarify for me. 1.) Keeping installed ports/packages up to date.

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