Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-10-04 Thread Francisco Reyes
Bill Moran writes: Have you tried contacting the Foundation? http://www.freebsdfoundation.org/ It's my understanding that they coordinate most of this money - developers stuff ... I think I explored that route. It's been a month or so now.. but if memory serves me well that was not a viable

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-10-02 Thread Francisco Reyes
Kris Kennaway writes: There are a number of PRs I filed, but those aren't all of the problems. It will require fairly major work to fix - the best hope would be if someone was funded to work on it. A couple of months back the place I work for had a number of issues with NFS. We tried to

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-10-02 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Francisco Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kris Kennaway writes: There are a number of PRs I filed, but those aren't all of the problems. It will require fairly major work to fix - the best hope would be if someone was funded to work on it. A couple of months back the place I

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-23 Thread Robert Joosten
Hi, That's interesting. Are you getting a could not lock the passwd file: EOPNOTSUPP failure with rpc.lockd not enabled? Negative, I rebuild the kernel on one box today, commented out rpc.lockd=YES in /etc/rc.conf and rebooted into single user mode and remounted / rw. I then ran

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-23 Thread pbdlists
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 04:12:03PM -0700, Perry Hutchison wrote: File locking works reasonably well within a single system (defined as a combination of hardware and software that all crashes together :) I doubt anyone will ever get it to work all that well when the locks must be shared

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-22 Thread Robert Joosten
Hi, Hmmm, is there a way to run pxe-boxes without rpc.lockd and then still able to run adduser and so on ? Safely? No. But then, flock() doesn't work via NFS even if rpc.lockd is running, so you aren't any worse off. flock() .. hmm yeah, I discoverd trouble with sendmail as well, it

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-22 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Sep 22, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Robert Joosten wrote: Hmmm, is there a way to run pxe-boxes without rpc.lockd and then still able to run adduser and so on ? Safely? No. But then, flock() doesn't work via NFS even if rpc.lockd is running, so you aren't any worse off. flock() .. hmm yeah, I

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-22 Thread Robert Joosten
Hi, I observed running a pxe client running fbsd 5.[45] being served by nfs-box running 5 (and 4 nowadays because of asr0 trouble due to geom) having disabled rpc.lockd the box doens't let me run adduser, but with rpc.lockd enabled it's fine with 'em. Is that strange or am I missing

6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Michael Conlen
I recall that FreeBSD 6.1 had some NFS lockd issues that were a show stopper at one time for me however I'm having trouble finding information on the current state of NFS. Anyone have a pointer to information? -- Michael Conlen ___ freebsd

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:21:08PM -0400, Michael Conlen wrote: I recall that FreeBSD 6.1 had some NFS lockd issues that were a show stopper at one time for me however I'm having trouble finding information on the current state of NFS. Anyone have a pointer to information? rpc.lockd

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Michael Conlen
On Sep 21, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:21:08PM -0400, Michael Conlen wrote: I recall that FreeBSD 6.1 had some NFS lockd issues that were a show stopper at one time for me however I'm having trouble finding information on the current state of NFS. Anyone

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:42:44PM -0400, Michael Conlen wrote: On Sep 21, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:21:08PM -0400, Michael Conlen wrote: I recall that FreeBSD 6.1 had some NFS lockd issues that were a show stopper at one time for me however I'm

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Michael Conlen
On Sep 21, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:42:44PM -0400, Michael Conlen wrote: On Sep 21, 2006, at 2:22 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:21:08PM -0400, Michael Conlen wrote: I recall that FreeBSD 6.1 had some NFS lockd issues

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
wrote: I recall that FreeBSD 6.1 had some NFS lockd issues that were a show stopper at one time for me however I'm having trouble finding information on the current state of NFS. Anyone have a pointer to information? rpc.lockd remains unreliable; avoid using it if practical

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Sep 21, 2006, at 11:42 AM, Michael Conlen wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 02:21:08PM -0400, Michael Conlen wrote: I recall that FreeBSD 6.1 had some NFS lockd issues that were a show stopper at one time for me however I'm having trouble finding information on the current state of NFS. Anyone

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Robert Joosten
Hi, rpc.lockd remains unreliable; avoid using it if practical. Hmmm, is there a way to run pxe-boxes without rpc.lockd and then still able to run adduser and so on ? Regards, Robert ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 11:43:16PM +0200, Robert Joosten wrote: Hi, rpc.lockd remains unreliable; avoid using it if practical. Hmmm, is there a way to run pxe-boxes without rpc.lockd and then still able to run adduser and so on ? Use the nolockd option to mount_nfs, that's what I meant

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Robert Joosten
Hi Kris, rpc.lockd remains unreliable; avoid using it if practical. Hmmm, is there a way to run pxe-boxes without rpc.lockd and then still able to run adduser and so on ? Use the nolockd option to mount_nfs, nolockd, aha. Okay, I'll look at that, thx. Regards, Robert

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Sep 21, 2006, at 2:43 PM, Robert Joosten wrote: rpc.lockd remains unreliable; avoid using it if practical. Hmmm, is there a way to run pxe-boxes without rpc.lockd and then still able to run adduser and so on ? Safely? No. But then, flock() doesn't work via NFS even if rpc.lockd is

Re: 6.1 and NFS

2006-09-21 Thread Perry Hutchison
rpc.lockd remains unreliable; avoid using it if practical. statd and lockd have been problematic ever since Sun invented them a couple of decades ago, at least partly because what they are trying to do is fundamentally not computable. (There is no way to distinguish between the other side