Two xorg-server packages?

2008-06-14 Thread Chad Perrin
I seem to have two xorg-server packages on a FreeBSD system of mine, and
I'm not sure why.  With one of them, there's no problem:

  xorg-server-1.4_10,1=  up-to-date with port 

One of them won't upgrade:

  xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1needs updating (port has 1.2.99.903_2,1) 

  ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-servers/xorg-server-snap:
  is outdated
  ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
  - x11-servers/xorg-server-snap (marked as IGNORE)

. . . and portaudit says it's vulnerable:

  Affected package: xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1
  Type of problem: xorg -- multiple vulnerabilities.
  Reference:
  
http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/fe2b6597-c9a4-11dc-8da8-0008a18a9961.html

Why do I have this xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 package?  It appears to be
nothing but an older version.  Should I remove it, or figure out how to
upgrade it?  Is it actually just an older version of the same package, or
is it a different/separate package entirely?

Any help figuring this out would be appreciated.

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Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Coleman

Ryan Coleman wrote:

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Bruce Cran wrote:

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in 
kernel mode

Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address  = 0x0
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = 
supervisor read, page not present

Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer= 0x20:0x0
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer  =
0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame
pointer  = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel:
code segment   = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags   = interrupt 
enabled, resume, IOPL = 0

Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process= 925 (cp)
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number= 12
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s
Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device defined.


This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new fBSD
6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide?


To be of any use we need a backtrace.  See 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html 


for details.  First you need to configure a dump device then when
the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by
default.  You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace.



It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though.

Kris



It's crashed twice and stalled on the dump. Any thoughts?


Anyone? I'm going to have to disable the dump as I need the machine to 
come back up if possible.

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Re: Intermittent -- yet regular -- v6.3 kernel panic

2008-06-14 Thread Bruce Cran
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:24:07 -0500
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ryan Coleman wrote:
  Kris Kennaway wrote:
  Bruce Cran wrote:
  On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:49:29 -0500
  Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while
  in kernel mode
  Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1; apic id = 01
  Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault virtual address  = 0x0
  Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: fault code = 
  supervisor read, page not present
  Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: instruction pointer=
  0x20:0x0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: stack pointer
  = 0x28:0xec0ea8e0 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: frame
  pointer  = 0x28:0xec0ea8e4 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2
  kernel: code segment   = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type
  0x1b Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1,
  gran 1 Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: processor eflags   =
  interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0
  Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: current process= 925
  (cp) Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: trap number= 12
  Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: panic: page fault
  Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: cpuid = 1
  Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Uptime: 1h21m59s
  Jun 12 23:02:41 UnixBox2 kernel: Cannot dump. No dump device
  defined.
 
 
  This is a regular occurrence, but varies by source. Brand new
  fBSD 6.3 machine, what more information do I need to provide?
 
  To be of any use we need a backtrace.  See 
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html 
 
  for details.  First you need to configure a dump device then when
  the system crashes a crash dump will be written to /var/crash by
  default.  You then run kgdb on the file to get the backtrace.
 
 
  It's quite likely to be due to bad hardware though.
 
  Kris
 
 
  It's crashed twice and stalled on the dump. Any thoughts?
 
 Anyone? I'm going to have to disable the dump as I need the machine
 to come back up if possible.

Since it sounds like it's bad hardware, the dump isn't going to
provide any useful information so you may as well disable it until
you can swap out the RAM etc.

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Re: Two xorg-server packages?

2008-06-14 Thread Odhiambo Washington
When did you lastly update your ports tree using any of the different
methods available?



On 6/14/08, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I seem to have two xorg-server packages on a FreeBSD system of mine, and
 I'm not sure why.  With one of them, there's no problem:

   xorg-server-1.4_10,1=  up-to-date with port

 One of them won't upgrade:

   xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1needs updating (port has 1.2.99.903_2,1)

   ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-servers/xorg-server-snap:
   is outdated
   ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
   - x11-servers/xorg-server-snap (marked as IGNORE)

 . . . and portaudit says it's vulnerable:

   Affected package: xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1
   Type of problem: xorg -- multiple vulnerabilities.
   Reference:

 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/fe2b6597-c9a4-11dc-8da8-0008a18a9961.html

 Why do I have this xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 package?  It appears to be
 nothing but an older version.  Should I remove it, or figure out how to
 upgrade it?  Is it actually just an older version of the same package, or
 is it a different/separate package entirely?

 Any help figuring this out would be appreciated.

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Re: okay, it's time to ask....

2008-06-14 Thread Jos Chrispijn

Gary Kline wrote:

Cann anybody clue me in?
  
I personally haven't had this problem, but perhaps you can have a peek 
at: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-449946.html


Jos
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Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial installation

2008-06-14 Thread Edward Lay
From: Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and
dns for hosts.

Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers
are listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers.

Thanks for the suggestion.  Those files already exist with valid
entries though.  In any event, it doesn't seem like a hostname problem
as I can nslookup arbitrary hosts and then try and then ping the IP
numbers directly which fails for hosts beyond the local subnet.  

It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of
problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP
address, I get no answer.  Now I know the gateway is functioning as
every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and
in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine
where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this
or at least some way of approaching the problem. 

thanks

ed



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Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?

2008-06-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar

in answer to Wojciech's ... there is already windows!, i don't think
there is anything 'wrong' with that os. in fact, i rather liked win95
and win98. on old machines back then win95 was a really easy install and
required only 50M - you had to work much harder to put on linux (especially X).


there is nothing wrong in any product as long as it's sold with normal 
free marked rules, and nobody is forced using it.


And that's the true problem with windows - that it is forced. for example 
- using our taxpayers money - it's in every school's computer and children 
have no choice but have their brain washed.

but it's OT.



however, things are very different now and the *nix world offers a lot
more. if some people don't want this and prefer to pay for propriety,
more limited software then they can certainly find what they are
looking for with xp, vista and whatever else is conjured up.


it's not more limited software, it's more limited from our point of 
view.


from their point of view unix is limited, because you can't just click 
install and get cool colourfull icons and windows.


And LET IT BE THAT WAY. so please do not improve FreeBSD in that aspect.
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Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?

2008-06-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar

. . . but you'd still get a cooler desktop by going with something
else, like MacOS X, Ubuntu, or PC-BSD (in increasing order of coolness
in the glitzy, unnecessary dancing rodents sense) without having to
actually express any personal preferences during setup.


so even better - let FreeBSD be like it is.

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ports/net/asterisk build problem

2008-06-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar

ends with this at linking:
__sync_sub_and_fetch_4'
manager.o(.text+0x1c09): In function `accept_thread':
/usr2/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.20.1/include/asterisk/lock.h:1118: 
undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4'

manager.o(.text+0x4b5c): In function `action_waitevent':
/usr2/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.20.1/include/asterisk/lock.h:1164: 
undefined reference to `__sync_sub_and_fetch_4'

manager.o(.text+0x6e8c): In function `generic_http_callback':
/usr2/ports/net/asterisk/work/asterisk-1.4.20.1/include/asterisk/lock.h:1118: 
undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4'




anyone know where these __sync_* functions are?

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Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial installation

2008-06-14 Thread Peter Boosten



Edward Lay wrote:

From: Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED]


It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of
problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP
address, I get no answer.  Now I know the gateway is functioning as
every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and
in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine
where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this
or at least some way of approaching the problem. 



netmask?

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Re: Restoring freeBSD boot loader

2008-06-14 Thread Lionel
Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 At 05:12 PM 6/13/2008, Lionel wrote:

   I've had to install Windows XP in dual boot on a freeBSD box, and of
 course it erased the bootloader to replace it with its own. Now I'd like
 to restore the freeBSD bootloader.

   I've tried booting with the install CD and I use the fdisk utility to
 mark the fbsd partition bootable and then said I wanted to install the
 freeBSD bootloader, but I didn't know how to make it actually write the
 changes to the disk.

   So... is it possible to restore the bootloader this way? Maybe I could
 install lilo from a live CD but I don't want to install grub from
 windows because I'll probably remove it soon, but I think lilo just
 places itself in the boot segment so it should be fine.

   Any help would be most welcome...

 --
 Lionel

 Look in the tools folder on the FreeBSD install CD for booteasy.
 Booteasy will run from Windows and install the boot loader.  It will
 also save the old MBR to a floppy, hard disk, or USB disk for safety.

 -Derek

  Ah, thank you and all those who answered me, really helpful. I'm going
to try this right away.

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Re: [OT]Change font for aterm

2008-06-14 Thread Kemian Dang
Thank you, I am trying 14 and 16 pix to find one suits me :)

2008/6/11 Frank Shute [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:39:21PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:

 2008/6/8 Frank Shute [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 06:06:38PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
 
  2008/6/8 Frank Shute [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   On Sun, Jun 08, 2008 at 03:41:53PM +0100, Kemian Dang wrote:
  
   Dear All,
  
   I used to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono in Gnome-terminal, by change
   the configure in the menu.
   Now I am using aterm, but I also want to use that font.
  
   I can see it by fc-list:
  
   [3:39pm:kemian] ~ fc-list | grep Sans Mono
   Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold
   Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Oblique
   Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Bold Oblique
   Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
  
   I add entry in .Xresources:
  
   Aterm*font:   xft:Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:style=Roman
  
   Use:
  
   Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream\ vera\ sans\ 
   mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15
  
   in ~/.Xdefaults (all on one line).
  
 
  aterm still complain can not find this font.
 
   Then:
  
   $ xrdb -load
 
  Sorry. should have been:
 
  $ xrdb -load ~/.Xdefaults
 
 
  This command did not give any output, it held there and nothing happened.
  I have to Ctrl+C to stop it.
 
  
   The size of the font can be varied by changing the 16 in that line.
  
   $ xlsfonts | less
 
  This did not give the output of bitstream vera sans mono.
 
  Does the dir /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/ exist?
 
  If not you have to install: x11-fonts/bitstream-vera and follow the
  instructions to change your xorg.conf and then restart X.
 
  If it exists, you have to add the dir to xorg.conf like so:
 
 FontPath /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/
 
  under the Files section. Restart X.
 
  X should read ~/.Xdefaults on start up  your font will be used for
  aterm.
 
  xlsfonts should also now list the bitstream vera fonts.
 
  Regards,

 Thanks a lot, it works.
 There is no font path in the xorg.conf, and after I add them in, it comes 
 out.
 Another thing is, it did not recognize the \  to space, the   will work.
 The font line I am using is:
 Aterm*font: -bitstream-bitstream vera sans
 mono-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-1

 Though the font seems a little bigger than I suppose, anyway, it works.

 Hi Kemian,

 I'm glad you got it working.

 To change the size of the font, you want to change the the first 0 in
 the line to the font size you require in pixels. E.g: I use:

 -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15

 for a 16px font. I like it big!

 You can test it beforehand by using xfd (in ports if not already
 installed) i.e:

 $ xfd -fn -bitstream-bitstream vera sans mono\
 -medium-r-normal--16-0-0-0-m-0-iso8859-15

 Use iso8859-15 if you want € (the euro) in your character set.


 Sorry for replying later due to lot of work these days.


 No worries. I assumed you'd got it to work.

 --
 Best wishes,
 Kemian

 Regards,

 --

  Frank


  Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html





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Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?

2008-06-14 Thread Alberto Rizzi

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:

Hi all,

I brought a new ThinkPad T61 for work, the hardware is as follows:

T7300(2GHz), 2GB RAM, 120GB 5400rpm HD, 15.4in 1680x1050 LCD, 128MB 
nVIDIA Quadro NVS 140M, CDRW/DVDRW, Intel 802.11agn(n-disabled), 
Bluetooth, Modem, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure chip, Intel Turbo, 9c 
Li-Ion,

I have a T61, T7100, 1GB RAM, integrated graphics, 3945ABG...


My current working involves scientific calculation and programming. I'm 
from a linux background(redhat, debian, ubuntu), but after some googling 
and comparison, I found FreeBSD more stable and I want to try FreeBSD.  
I am tired of a dual-boot system, so I want to just install FreeBSD or 
another linux distribution(maybe ubuntu) on my notebook.


My questions are:
1) Can FreeBSD work well with my hardware? The display card, CDRW/DVDRW, 
wireless, Ethernet and battery managment are the most important.



There are some problems with the 3945 wifi driver (wpi) but it works
under 7-STABLE. If you have 4965AGN you need iwn driver which is only (i
think) in -CURRENT (8.0)
2) I have read the FreeBSD Handbook. According to Chapter 10: Linux 
Binary Compatibility, it seems that FreeBSD lacks support of many 
commercial softwares such as MATLAB, Oracle, Mathematica. Is the linux 
binary compatibility stable enough for work ?


Thanks a lot.

I run Matlab (maybe R14SP3 or something similar) under FreeBSD 7-STABLE
on this laptop with linux_base-fc4.
I use i386 and not x64

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Re: Fwd: twe0 interrupt storm

2008-06-14 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hello Stanislav,

Thursday, June 12, 2008, 3:45:36 PM, you wrote:

 Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller:

Is it MSI mobo by any cnance?
I am seeing these interrupt storms on a few boxes (irq21 too, twe(4) or
fxp(4) attached to these) with an

Base Board Information
Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD
Product Name: MS-7368
Version: 1.0

I was unable so far to fix this problem...seems like some hardware
issue

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Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial installation

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Coleman



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On Jun 14, 2008, at 5:11 AM, Peter Boosten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Edward Lay wrote:

From: Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of
problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP
address, I get no answer.  Now I know the gateway is functioning as
every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet  
and

in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine
where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause  
this

or at least some way of approaching the problem.


netmask?

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I sometimes have to add a route. To t
Rc.conf or manually to /route/
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Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial installation

2008-06-14 Thread Pascal S Clermont

Edward Lay wrote:

From: Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED]



  

Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and
dns for hosts.



  

Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers
are listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers.



Thanks for the suggestion.  Those files already exist with valid
entries though.  In any event, it doesn't seem like a hostname problem
as I can nslookup arbitrary hosts and then try and then ping the IP
numbers directly which fails for hosts beyond the local subnet.  


It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of
problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP
address, I get no answer.  Now I know the gateway is functioning as
every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and
in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine
where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this
or at least some way of approaching the problem. 


thanks

ed

  
There are 3 things that need to be configured in order to have a network 
connection on an initial start, the IP, Gateway and Route.
I am ruling out the fact that it might be the firewall, cause you state 
that this on an an initial install  and I would try another ether cable 
if after this setup it still doesn't work.


make sure both these entry are in your rc.conf :
ifconfig_vr0=inet 192.168.0.100 netmask 255.255.255.0
defaultrouter=192.168.0.1

You will need to replace vr0 by your network card, and replace all IPs 
for your own. if you modify the settings in the rc.conf you can execute 
/etc/netstart in order for the settings to take effect.


Pascal S. Clermont
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Re: Fwd: twe0 interrupt storm

2008-06-14 Thread Stanislav
Dear Daniel,

Yes, you're right:
Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
System Information
Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD
Product Name: MS-7368
Version: 1.0
Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
UUID: Not Present
Wake-up Type: Power Switch
SKU Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Family: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

Thank you very much!

Kind Regards

2008/6/14 Daniel Gerzo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello Stanislav,

 Thursday, June 12, 2008, 3:45:36 PM, you wrote:

 Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 controller:

 Is it MSI mobo by any cnance?
 I am seeing these interrupt storms on a few boxes (irq21 too, twe(4) or
 fxp(4) attached to these) with an

 Base Board Information
Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD
Product Name: MS-7368
Version: 1.0

 I was unable so far to fix this problem...seems like some hardware
 issue

 --
 Best regards,
  Danielmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Unable to reach hosts outside my subnet after initial installation

2008-06-14 Thread Jon Radel

Edward Lay wrote:

From: Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Check and/or create /etc/nsswitch.conf so you are looking in files and
dns for hosts.



Check or create /etc/resolv.conf make sure your upsteam DNS servers
are listed in this file along with any local caching DNS servers.


Thanks for the suggestion.  Those files already exist with valid
entries though.  In any event, it doesn't seem like a hostname problem
as I can nslookup arbitrary hosts and then try and then ping the IP
numbers directly which fails for hosts beyond the local subnet.  


It seems more like a router/gateway network configuration type of
problem. I've just discovered that when I ping the gateway's IP
address, I get no answer.  Now I know the gateway is functioning as
every other host on the network can reach the rest of the internet and
in fact, I've just successfully ping'd the gateway from the machine
where I'm writing this message. So I'm wondering what could cause this
or at least some way of approaching the problem. 


Do you have access to the gateway?  If so, can you ping the new machine 
from there?  If not, check the arp table on the gateway to see if your 
new machine has shown up.  Check that 128.32.157.5/32 routes the same 
place as the rest of the /24.


Only things I can think of that haven't already been covered are 
firewalling on the gateway, a rogue route for the /32 on the gateway, 
and the arp table on the gateway being locked down or having a static 
entry (or really, really long expire times) for the IP address you've 
given newdewey.  Ordinarily I'd worry that you had a longer netmask on 
the gateway than on your new machine, but with dewey at .3 (which works, 
yes?), newdewey  at .5, and the gateway at .1, this would be hard to 
arrange.


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Re: Fwd: twe0 interrupt storm

2008-06-14 Thread FreeBSD
Be careful with hetzner.de hosting, here is their answer:

The controller is compatible with the mainboard. With linux there are no
problems. FreeBSD is also not officially supported by us (only
Debian/Ubuntu/Suse).

Sorry, but it is not possible to buy a new model only for a few customers.

2008/6/14 Stanislav [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dear Daniel,

 Yes, you're right:
 Handle 0x0001, DMI type 1, 27 bytes
 System Information
Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD
Product Name: MS-7368
Version: 1.0
Serial Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
UUID: Not Present
Wake-up Type: Power Switch
SKU Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Family: To Be Filled By O.E.M.

 Thank you very much!

 Kind Regards

 2008/6/14 Daniel Gerzo [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hello Stanislav,

 Thursday, June 12, 2008, 3:45:36 PM, you wrote:

 Hi, I have problem on FreeBSD 6.2, 7.0 with 3ware 8006-2LP RAID-1 
 controller:

 Is it MSI mobo by any cnance?
 I am seeing these interrupt storms on a few boxes (irq21 too, twe(4) or
 fxp(4) attached to these) with an

 Base Board Information
Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERANTIONAL CO.,LTD
Product Name: MS-7368
Version: 1.0

 I was unable so far to fix this problem...seems like some hardware
 issue

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Testing RAM

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Coleman
As you've probably read in my previous posts I'm having issues, most 
likely with the RAM.


How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring I'd 
drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp -rvn 
commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB RAID5.


Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with gpt (1 
large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there another way? A 
better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am sure the speed of reading 
from a RAID5 is lost with it's redundancies.


TIA,
Ryan
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Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....]

2008-06-14 Thread Sahil Tandon
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   The only thing I seemto remember is that in 2003, phpBB2 was
   installed withthe data directory, /usr/local/www/data/
   Now itis installed in theweb ``root'' irectory, /usr/local/www
 
   Below is what happened with lynx.
 
 p4 22:05 Jail:: aristotle [2672] lynx http://localhost/phpBB2/
   404 Not Found
  Not Found
 
   The requested URL /phpBB2/ was not found on this server.

What do your apache logs say about this?  Look for an error associated with 
trying to find this phpBB2 location.  Does it exist?  Is your httpd.conf 
configured to make that location available?

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Re: ports/net/asterisk build problem

2008-06-14 Thread Sahil Tandon
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4'

 anyone know where these __sync_* functions are?

Do you set CPUTYPE in /etc/make.conf?  There has been some discussion about 
this before; check the archives for some commonly suggested solutions.

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Re: Testing RAM

2008-06-14 Thread Roland Smith
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:45:20AM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
 As you've probably read in my previous posts I'm having issues, most 
 likely with the RAM.
 
 How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring I'd 
 drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp -rvn 
 commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB RAID5.

Use sysutils/memtest86

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64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Coleman
I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately 
but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're 
willing to share (as am I).


This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit 
cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have 
anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of 
fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from 
scratch?

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RE: Testing RAM

2008-06-14 Thread David Christensen
Ryan Coleman wrote:

 How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing?

I use Memtest86 to test memory:

http://www.memtest86.com/ 


HTH,

David

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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Sahil Tandon
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately 
 but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're 
 willing to share (as am I).

 This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit 
 cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have 
 anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of fBSD I 
 should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from scratch?

6.3 supports 64-bit.  http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.3R/announce.html

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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Kris Kennaway

Ryan Coleman wrote:
I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately 
but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're 
willing to share (as am I).


This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit 
cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have 
anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of 
fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from 
scratch?


6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par with 
the 32-bit version.  Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards 
compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your 
problems.


Kris
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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Coleman

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Ryan Coleman wrote:
I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well 
lately but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and 
you're willing to share (as am I).


This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 
64-bit cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might 
this have anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit 
version of fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or 
should I go from scratch?


6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par 
with the 32-bit version.  Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards 
compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your 
problems.


Kris

But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go again?
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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Ryan Coleman wrote:

I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately but 
there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're willing to 
share (as am I).


This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit cpu, 
but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have anything to 
do with the crashes?


you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance, but 
32-bit version should work fine too.

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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Sahil Tandon
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Kris Kennaway wrote:
 Ryan Coleman wrote:
 I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately 
 but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're 
 willing to share (as am I).

 This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit 
 cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have 
 anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of fBSD 
 I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from scratch?

 6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par with 
 the 32-bit version.  Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards 
 compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your 
 problems.

 Kris

 But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go again?

An upgrade may be possible, but a new installation is recommended.  Search 
the archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/ for context.

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Re: 64-bit? [Thanks!]

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Coleman

Thanks everyone!

I'm going to do a fresh install to a new drive that I am picking up in 
an hour or so from a local retailer.


--
Ryan

Sahil Tandon wrote:

Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Kris Kennaway wrote:


Ryan Coleman wrote:
  
I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well lately 
but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and you're 
willing to share (as am I).


This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit 
cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have 
anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit version of fBSD 
I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or should I go from scratch?

6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par with 
the 32-bit version.  Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards 
compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your 
problems.


Kris
  

But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go again?



An upgrade may be possible, but a new installation is recommended.  Search 
the archives at http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-amd64/ for context.


  


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Re: ports/net/asterisk build problem

2008-06-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar

works. thank you very much!


On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Sahil Tandon wrote:


Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


undefined reference to `__sync_fetch_and_add_4'

anyone know where these __sync_* functions are?


Do you set CPUTYPE in /etc/make.conf?  There has been some discussion about
this before; check the archives for some commonly suggested solutions.

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Re: 64-bit? [Thanks!]

2008-06-14 Thread RW
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:02:25 -0500
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks everyone!
 
 I'm going to do a fresh install to a new drive that I am picking up
 in an hour or so from a local retailer.

If this is a server than you almost certainly should go with the 64 bit
version. If it's for a desktop then I would suggest you search the
list for the pros and cons - I'm not going to go into them, it's been
done to death.
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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Kris Kennaway

Ryan Coleman wrote:

Kris Kennaway wrote:

Ryan Coleman wrote:
I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well 
lately but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and 
you're willing to share (as am I).


This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 
64-bit cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might 
this have anything to do with the crashes? Is there a stable 64-bit 
version of fBSD I should install? Will it upgrade the 32-bit or 
should I go from scratch?


6.3 supports 64-bit amd64-compatible CPUs, and stability is on par 
with the 32-bit version.  Besides which, amd64 CPUs are full backwards 
compatible when run in 32-bit mode, so this is not the source of your 
problems.


Kris
But will it upgrade or do I have to strike the current install and go 
again?


Easiest thing is to reinstall.  I wouldn't bother until you have fixed 
your hardware though -- you'll just be wasting your time.


Kris
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Re: Is FreeBSD suitable for my thinkpad T61 ?

2008-06-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:48:10AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 . . . but you'd still get a cooler desktop by going with something
 else, like MacOS X, Ubuntu, or PC-BSD (in increasing order of coolness
 in the glitzy, unnecessary dancing rodents sense) without having to
 actually express any personal preferences during setup.
 
 so even better - let FreeBSD be like it is.

There's a reason I use FreeBSD rather than PC-BSD, or any of the others I
mentioned.

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Re: Two xorg-server packages?

2008-06-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 09:53:06AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
 When did you lastly update your ports tree using any of the different
 methods available?

I run `portsnap fetch update` (among other things) almost daily, and did
so yesterday a couple of times in the course of trying to figure out
what's going on with that particular Xorg package before sending a
message to the list about it.

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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Kris Kennaway

Wojciech Puchar wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008, Ryan Coleman wrote:

I'm full of questions, I know... And I haven't been googling well 
lately but there seem to be a lot of you with a lot of knowledge and 
you're willing to share (as am I).


This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 
64-bit cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this 
have anything to do with the crashes?


you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance


This is workload-dependent.  Some workloads run more slowly on a 64-bit 
CPU, others faster.


Kris

, but

32-bit version should work fine too.
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ssh Public Keys Suddenly Stopped working for one account.

2008-06-14 Thread Martin McCormick
We have an account on several FreeBSD systems that is
used for  automation. Several systems can talk to each other via
ssh by using public keys so that scripts don't have to hold
passwords.

Last night, an account that has been working for years
suddenly won't let any of its cyber cohorts in without a
password.

I bet I accidentally changed something sometime, but I
can't figure out what.

The public keys hadn't changed since 2005 although
today, I blew them all away and made new ones which still don't
work on this one system but work on all others.

There is no password expiration timeout (the first thing
I thought of) since the account is several years old.

All other accounts on this same system with public keys
from their remote partners still work fine.

The ownership and permissions look right on the account
directory.

Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing?

I can telnet in to the account on the localhost via the
usual password which you can't do on an expired account.

I even did a stupid sort of measure which was to reset
the password to itself and that didn't change anything.

Many thanks for other suggestions.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group
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Re: ssh Public Keys Suddenly Stopped working for one account.

2008-06-14 Thread prad
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:02:07 -0500
Martin McCormick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   All other accounts on this same system with public keys
 from their remote partners still work fine.
 
   The ownership and permissions look right on the account
 directory.
 
how about on the client computer? for instance, id_rsa is supposed to
be 600. the ownership should be set for the account on .ssh and
authorized_keys.

   Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing?

we had only one problem getting a mac to log in which was strange. the
client generated the id_rsa.pub and id_rsa keys. it wouldn't work - and
apparently all the permissions were set correctly at both ends.

so we did the whole thing from scratch again - and this time it worked.

conclusion: the system is picky about the rsa key. :D :D

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Re: ssh Public Keys Suddenly Stopped working for one account.

2008-06-14 Thread Derek Ragona

At 01:02 PM 6/14/2008, Martin McCormick wrote:

We have an account on several FreeBSD systems that is
used for  automation. Several systems can talk to each other via
ssh by using public keys so that scripts don't have to hold
passwords.

Last night, an account that has been working for years
suddenly won't let any of its cyber cohorts in without a
password.

I bet I accidentally changed something sometime, but I
can't figure out what.

The public keys hadn't changed since 2005 although
today, I blew them all away and made new ones which still don't
work on this one system but work on all others.

There is no password expiration timeout (the first thing
I thought of) since the account is several years old.

All other accounts on this same system with public keys
from their remote partners still work fine.

The ownership and permissions look right on the account
directory.

Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing?

I can telnet in to the account on the localhost via the
usual password which you can't do on an expired account.

I even did a stupid sort of measure which was to reset
the password to itself and that didn't change anything.

Many thanks for other suggestions.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Network Operations Group


If you upgraded one system to a new major version (sometimes point releases 
will cause a problem too) the system will regenerate its keys, so you need 
to then propagate the new keys.  Other than that, if you have a drive error 
causing the key files to not be readable is the only other time I've seen 
this problem.


-Derek

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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar


you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance


This is workload-dependent.  Some workloads run more slowly on a 64-bit CPU, 
others faster.
could you please give an example of slower running FreeBSD/amd64 thing 
than FreeBSD/i386?


there are more memory usage sometimes, that's why i use 32-bit squid 
binary on 64-bit systems

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sendmail's outgoing IPs

2008-06-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
is it possible to make sendmail choose it's outgoing IP when sending mail 
from list of four in random or round-robin way?


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Re: ssh Public Keys Suddenly Stopped working for one account.

2008-06-14 Thread Per olof Ljungmark

Martin McCormick wrote:

We have an account on several FreeBSD systems that is
used for  automation. Several systems can talk to each other via
ssh by using public keys so that scripts don't have to hold
passwords.

Last night, an account that has been working for years
suddenly won't let any of its cyber cohorts in without a
password.

I bet I accidentally changed something sometime, but I
can't figure out what.

The public keys hadn't changed since 2005 although
today, I blew them all away and made new ones which still don't
work on this one system but work on all others.

There is no password expiration timeout (the first thing
I thought of) since the account is several years old.

All other accounts on this same system with public keys
from their remote partners still work fine.

The ownership and permissions look right on the account
directory.

Does this sound familiar and what else am I missing?

I can telnet in to the account on the localhost via the
usual password which you can't do on an expired account.

I even did a stupid sort of measure which was to reset
the password to itself and that didn't change anything.

Many thanks for other suggestions.


cat /var/log/auth.log ?

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Doubt about hanged ESTABLISHED connections on netstat...

2008-06-14 Thread Agus
Hi guys,

Today i was on my Freebsd6.1 logged from my notebook through SSH...somehow i
lost my Internet connection on my laptop; i realized that, cause i couldnt
type anything on ssh so i checked and i had lost internet connectionI
reset my router..connect through Internet, now working, to my BSD again and
i can see the old connections as ESTABLISHED.They are hanged there cause
of the loss of my connection i guessSo my doubt and question was;
Is this normal behaviour, who is in charge of managing this? the TCP
stack, or can i config SSH...If someone who's got the time and willing to
explain, share thoughts about this, i ll be grateful...

Cheers,
Agustin
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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Kris Kennaway

Wojciech Puchar wrote:


you should run 64-bit version on 64-bit machine for performance


This is workload-dependent.  Some workloads run more slowly on a 
64-bit CPU, others faster.
could you please give an example of slower running FreeBSD/amd64 thing 
than FreeBSD/i386?


there are more memory usage sometimes, that's why i use 32-bit squid 
binary on 64-bit systems


Precisely that.  If your application relies on memory I/O, it may run 
slower because data is typically bigger so takes longer to copy.  Some 
java applications can fall into this category, for example.


Kris
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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar
there are more memory usage sometimes, that's why i use 32-bit squid binary 
on 64-bit systems


Precisely that.  If your application relies on memory I/O, it may run slower 
because data is typically bigger so takes longer to copy.  Some java 
applications can fall into this category, for example.


Kris


thanks. i don't know if squid runs slower (it consumes little CPU anyway) 
but 64-bit version takes 30% more RAM

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Re: ssh Public Keys Suddenly Stopped working for one account.

2008-06-14 Thread Martin McCormick
Per olof Ljungmark writes:
 cat /var/log/auth.log ?

Thank you!  This makes me feel down-right stupid. It
just slipped my mind. I've kind of gotten out of the habit of
looking at auth.log since we put the system in question behind a
firewall and it is not accessible from the general Internet any
more.

sshd[1746]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory 
/usr/home/automation

I said that the ownership looked okay for that
directory. It needed to be 755 so everybody on the system in
question can at least look at files in it. Somehow, yesterday or
the day before, I accidentally had it set to 775 which is not
good. I think I remember realizing I was in the wrong directory,
once, and that may have been when I did it.

sshd and sendmail will both refuse to operate on files
that are writable by other than the owner. I had looked at those
permissions several times and the fact that it was
drwxrwxr-x instead of drwxr-xr-x
hadn't sunk in yet.

Many thanks.

Martin
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Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....]

2008-06-14 Thread Gary Kline
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 10:48:16AM -0400, Sahil Tandon wrote:
 Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The only thing I seemto remember is that in 2003, phpBB2 was
  installed withthe data directory, /usr/local/www/data/
  Now itis installed in theweb ``root'' irectory, /usr/local/www
  
  Below is what happened with lynx.
  
  p4 22:05 Jail:: aristotle [2672] lynx http://localhost/phpBB2/
  404 Not Found
 Not Found
  
The requested URL /phpBB2/ was not found on this server.
 
 What do your apache logs say about this?  Look for an error associated with 
 trying to find this phpBB2 location.  Does it exist?  Is your httpd.conf 
 configured to make that location available?
 


ah, good point!  hadn't thought of checing the error log.

Below is the entry from 11june08.  (10.47.0.250 == my jail,
aristotle.) what to i add to httpd.conf?  sorry, but
i'veforgotten if i needed to had to set up my three phpbb
forms as virtual pages {or whatever} ; also there are 
diffs between apacche13 and apache22.   my lan volunteer set
up apache22 when my network collapsed lastt winter and i 
did not watch.

Hm. The virtual sites have been moved to the apache22 subdir
./Includes/httpd-local.conf.  




Directory /usr/local/www/jottings
AllowOverride None
Order Allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

Directory /usr/local/www/bsd
AllowOverride None
Order Allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

Directory /usr/local/www/philosophy
AllowOverride None
Order Allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory


.


so, doi set up myphpbb[23] here??

 you know, i shoull have but didn't have a copy of my
original httpd.conf.  well, live  learn.



~

p4 13:17 Jail:: aristotle [2683] gr phpbb error.log
/var/log/httpd
32327:[Wed Jun 11 17:20:18 2008] [error] [client 10.47.0.250] File does
not exist: /usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb
32328:[Wed Jun 11 17:20:42 2008] [error] [client 10.47.0.250] File does
not exist: /usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb3



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Re: sendmail's outgoing IPs

2008-06-14 Thread Sahil Tandon
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 is it possible to make sendmail choose it's outgoing IP when sending mail 
 from list of four in random or round-robin way?

What problem are you trying to solve?  And this really is a question for the 
sendmail mailing list. :-)

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Re: How do I install pphpBB2? [WAS: Re: okay, it's time to ask....]

2008-06-14 Thread Sahil Tandon
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Directory /usr/local/www/jottings
 AllowOverride None
 Order Allow,deny
 Allow from all
 /Directory
 
 Directory /usr/local/www/bsd
 AllowOverride None
 Order Allow,deny
 Allow from all
 /Directory
 
 Directory /usr/local/www/philosophy
 AllowOverride None
 Order Allow,deny
 Allow from all
 /Directory
 
 
 .
 
 
   so, doi set up myphpbb[23] here??

Perhaps.

 32327:[Wed Jun 11 17:20:18 2008] [error] [client 10.47.0.250] File does
 not exist: /usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb

That seems pretty clear to me.  Apache is looking for phpbb in 
/usr/local/www/thought.org/phpbb, where it does not exist.  Fix that or 
configure apache to look in the appropriate location.

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Re: sendmail's outgoing IPs

2008-06-14 Thread Matthew Seaman

Wojciech Puchar wrote:
is it possible to make sendmail choose it's outgoing IP when sending 
mail from list of four in random or round-robin way?


Not easily.  sendmail(8) defaults to binding to all IPs on the machine
(INADDR_ANY) and the IP it will use to send with will just be whatever
would be the default from the routing table to reach the destination.

You can control what interfaces sendmail will listen on by using the
DAEMON_OPTIONS() macro in /etc/mail/$(hostname).mc and you can
set what IP number the machine will use as the origin address using
the CLIENT_OPTIONS() macro.  However, CLIENT_OPTIONS() doesn't give
you any method of cycling through multiple IP numbers.

What could you do? Run four instances of sendmail in different jails
as outgoing mail relays, each bound to a different IP.  Supposing your
server is called 'smtp.your.dom.ain' then you can make that an A record
which returns those 4 different IP numbers.  Clients looking the server
up in the DNS will get a randomised list of IPs (or round-robin,
depending on the configuration of the DNS servers you're using).

Alternatively you can use one instance of sendmail and do NAT tricks
to rewrite the packets on the way out of the firewall.  See 
http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/nat.html and the 'NAT LOAD BALANCE' example
in pf.conf(5).  Note however that you should take care to ensure that
the hostname your MTA helos as matches whatever IP or IPs are ultimately
used in the connection to the other MTA, or your message may well be
refused as likely to be spam.

There are also recipes I've seen on the comp.mail.sendmail newsgroup
for running sendmail with multiple virtual identities depending on the
sender address of the e-mail, which isn't exactly what you asked for
but might be good enough.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: 64-bit?

2008-06-14 Thread Rob

Ryan Coleman wrote:
This machine is running a D2C E4600 which (as I understand) is a 64-bit 
cpu, but I'm running fBSD 6.3 which is *not* 64-bit? Might this have 


All AMD  Intel x86 processors made in the last several years have the 
traditional x86 32 bit instruction set, as well as AMD's 64 bit set.


See:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64

  -R
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Re: sendmail's outgoing IPs

2008-06-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar

from list of four in random or round-robin way?


What problem are you trying to solve?  And this really is a question for the


i have 3 different links to ISP all are ADSL's so outgoing bandwidth is 
low, i would like to spread the load generated by outgoing mails.

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Re: sendmail's outgoing IPs

2008-06-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar

What could you do? Run four instances of sendmail in different jails
as outgoing mail relays, each bound to a different IP.  Supposing your


that's what i was thinking about, but believed there is smarted method.


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md devices mounted with async

2008-06-14 Thread RW

mdmfs(8) has an example of a malloc-backed md device mounted with the
async option. Is there any point in doing this with malloc and vnode
devices? In neither case does a write to the file-system require a write
to a physical disk.
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Re: Two xorg-server packages?

2008-06-14 Thread Zane C.B.
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 00:06:47 -0600
Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I seem to have two xorg-server packages on a FreeBSD system of
 mine, and I'm not sure why.  With one of them, there's no problem:
 
   xorg-server-1.4_10,1=  up-to-date with port 
 
 One of them won't upgrade:
 
   xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1needs updating (port has
 1.2.99.903_2,1) 
 
   ** Port marked as IGNORE: x11-servers/xorg-server-snap:
   is outdated
   ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
   - x11-servers/xorg-server-snap (marked as IGNORE)
 
 . . . and portaudit says it's vulnerable:
 
   Affected package: xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1
   Type of problem: xorg -- multiple vulnerabilities.
   Reference:
   
 http://www.FreeBSD.org/ports/portaudit/fe2b6597-c9a4-11dc-8da8-0008a18a9961.html
 
 Why do I have this xorg-server-1.2.99.903_1,1 package?  It appears
 to be nothing but an older version.  Should I remove it, or figure
 out how to upgrade it?  Is it actually just an older version of the
 same package, or is it a different/separate package entirely?
 
 Any help figuring this out would be appreciated.

I would just compile x11-server/xorg-server and once it is done do a
pkg_delete on xorg-server-snap. Then install
xorg-server/xorg-server. What it is complaining about is
x11-servers/xorg-server-snap being marked as to be ignored, which it
should be now as it is a out of date snap shot of xorg-server from
some time back.
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Re: Testing RAM

2008-06-14 Thread Zane C.B.
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring
 I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp
 -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB
 RAID5.
 
 Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with
 gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there
 another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am sure
 the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's redundancies.

For something that large, ZFS would be my choice.
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Re: Testing RAM

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Coleman

Zane C.B. wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring
I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp
-rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB
RAID5.

Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with
gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there
another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am sure
the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's redundancies.



For something that large, ZFS would be my choice
I take it that's not something I can do after the fact, right? I am not 
looking forward to redoing 1.6TB in file copying a second time

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Re: Two xorg-server packages?

2008-06-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 04:57:49PM -0500, Zane C.B. wrote:
 
 I would just compile x11-server/xorg-server and once it is done do a
 pkg_delete on xorg-server-snap. Then install
 xorg-server/xorg-server. What it is complaining about is
 x11-servers/xorg-server-snap being marked as to be ignored, which it
 should be now as it is a out of date snap shot of xorg-server from
 some time back.

Should that be x11-servers/xorg-server, instead of
xorg-server/xorg-server?

. . . or are you referring to something else?

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PORTS - no longer updated

2008-06-14 Thread Jos Chrispijn

I use a port that no longer is supported thru the regular ports.

p5-Text-ParseWords-3.1 Parse text into an array of tokens or array of arrays

** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
   - textproc/p5-Text-ParseWords (port directory error)

Have tried to remove it, but then I get the message that there are still 
other installed programs are using it.


Would the only possibility be that I excluded it from being update by 
adding it to pkgtools.conf or is there another way to correct this?


-- Jos
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Re: FreeBSD and User Security

2008-06-14 Thread Zane C.B.
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 22:25:32 +0200
David Naylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 Today I read an article describing how my government had lost
 ZAR200 000 000 from fraud.  This is just under $25 000 000.  The
 article credited this loss largely due to the use of spyware.  
 
 My question is how secure is FreeBSD (including KDE, GNOME and
 XFCE) to attacks, including cracking and spyware.  In addition, is
 there anyway to prevent a user from executing a program that is not
 owned by root (i.e. any program installed by the user), this would
 prevent spyware being installed (assuming root has been properly
 locked down) and subsequently run.  

Ugidfw(8) can be used to help with the executable stuff. The same is
true for using a restricted shell. The important thing is making sure
to make sure the user can't execute any thing other than the few
commands they are suppose to. If allowed access to execute any thing
in a system bin/sbin path, you begin to run into issues with
interpreters, which are as good as being able to execute something
owned by them. You can remove permissions to access them, but that
strikes me as beginning to get a bit hairy in the long run.
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Re: Openvpn on FreeBSD 7

2008-06-14 Thread Novembre
Andrew Berry andrewberry at sentex.net writes:

 
 Hi,
 
 I recently upgraded a machine from FreeBSD 6.3 to 7.0. Everything is  
 working fine except for the OpenVPN server. I had it set up with a  
 bridge configuration, but now even with a basic tunnel I can't get  
 successful ping across the VPN. I can make a connection from both  
 Linux and OS X but neither can actually use the tunnel. Are there any  
 changes in 7 which might affect this? Anyone else using OpenVPN on 7.0?
 
 Thanks,
 --Andrew


I have the same exact problem. I upgraded from 6.2-RELEASE to 7.0-RELEASE a
while back, recompiled my installed ports, and since then I have problems with
OpenVPN.

I have a laptop (Windows XP SP2) at home and a desktop (FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE) at
my office in the university. I have installed Samba 3.0.28,1 on my desktop and
created a share. I can access the share from anywhere within the university
network. But our university network is behind a firewall which blocks all
incoming connections except SSH, so I cannot access my Samba share from home.
What I did was to use Putty to SSH to my desktop at office, setup and OpenVPN
client/server on my laptop/desktop computers, and forward all OpenVPN
connections to my desktop through the SSH connection using Putty. Then I could
connect to my Samba server. It used to work before upgrading to 7.0-RELEASE, but
after that I can't access my shares from home. I have confirmed that my Samba
share is working fine by accessing it from another computer in the university
network, so the only culprit is OpenVPN. It connects, but apparently something
is wrong and I can't access my data...

Any ideas?

Thanks...

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Re: Testing RAM

2008-06-14 Thread Zane C.B.
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:11:32 -0500
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Zane C.B. wrote:
  On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500
  Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring
  I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp
  -rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB
  RAID5.
 
  Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with
  gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there
  another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am
  sure the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's
  redundancies. 
 
  For something that large, ZFS would be my choice
 I take it that's not something I can do after the fact, right? I am
 not looking forward to redoing 1.6TB in file copying a second time

Not that I am aware of.

My big reason I would go with ZFS is it would make future updates
easier as you can do it on the fly if the disks are just being added
to a system.
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Re: PORTS - no longer updated

2008-06-14 Thread Lars Eighner

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Jos Chrispijn wrote:


I use a port that no longer is supported thru the regular ports.

p5-Text-ParseWords-3.1 Parse text into an array of tokens or array of arrays

** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
  - textproc/p5-Text-ParseWords (port directory error)

Have tried to remove it, but then I get the message that there are still 
other installed programs are using it.


Would the only possibility be that I excluded it from being update by adding 
it to pkgtools.conf or is there another way to correct this?


The first step is find out what happened to it.  In this case MOVED tells us
this module has moved to core perl.  I believe upgrading perl and forcing
package delete will do it.  You may have to run pkgdb -F to delete the
dependencies.

You may want to make a note of the packages that depended on it.  I believe
they will still work after you upgrade perl, but you can rebuild them after
perl is upgraded if necessary.

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Re: md devices mounted with async

2008-06-14 Thread Kris Kennaway

RW wrote:

mdmfs(8) has an example of a malloc-backed md device mounted with the
async option. Is there any point in doing this with malloc and vnode
devices? In neither case does a write to the file-system require a write
to a physical disk.


Well, for vnode devices it does write to the disk, but that isn't the 
point; in both cases you are writing to the filesystem that is mounted 
on top of the md, so that will be faster if it is mounted async.


Kris
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Re: Testing RAM

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Coleman

Zane C.B. wrote:

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:11:32 -0500
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

Zane C.B. wrote:


On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 09:45:20 -0500
Ryan Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  

How would I go about slamming the RAM in testing? I was figuring
I'd drop from 4GB to 1GB and just push the board with the same cp
-rvn commands I've been running in an attempt to populate my 7TB
RAID5.

Also, am I using the wrong FS for the RAID? I partitioned it with
gpt (1 large slice) and formatted it with newfs but is there
another way? A better way? I read about ZFS recently but I am
sure the speed of reading from a RAID5 is lost with it's
redundancies. 


For something that large, ZFS would be my choice
  

I take it that's not something I can do after the fact, right? I am
not looking forward to redoing 1.6TB in file copying a second time



Not that I am aware of.

My big reason I would go with ZFS is it would make future updates
easier as you can do it on the fly if the disks are just being added
to a system.
  

Ok, and since I have all 8 ports used on this SATA RAID controller I
won't worry about it.

I reinstalled 6.3-RELEASE for amd64 and I cannot get the DNS client to
work... I can do one lookup and then it stops working. I am so
frustrated.

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Re[2]: Fwd: twe0 interrupt storm

2008-06-14 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hello FreeBSD,

Saturday, June 14, 2008, 4:38:10 PM, you wrote:

 Be careful with hetzner.de hosting, here is their answer:

 The controller is compatible with the mainboard. With linux there are no
 problems. FreeBSD is also not officially supported by us (only
 Debian/Ubuntu/Suse).

Yea, I know they do not officialy support FreeBSD, unluckily :-(

These interrupt storms are the only problem I have with hetzner.de...

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how to view environment variables

2008-06-14 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Hello,

sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various environment 
variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I find out what they 
are set to? set and printenv don't find them. I'm using standard csh and 
 FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE, fuse.ko is loaded and ntfs-3g works except it 
seems very slow.


thanks

Chris
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Re: question about posting to FreeBSD mailing lists

2008-06-14 Thread Novembre
RW fbsd06 at mlists.homeunix.com writes:


 gmane.org offers many mailing lists via its news.gmane.org server and
 most of the lists will allow posting. You need a real email address to
 post, because the first one has to verified.
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Great...this is exactly what I needed. Thanks so much :)

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how to view environment variables

2008-06-14 Thread Robert Huff

Chris Whitehouse writes:

  sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various
  environment variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I
  find out what they are set to? set and printenv don't find
  them. I'm using standard csh

In that case, try setenv with no arguements.  


Robert Huff

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Re: PORTS - no longer updated

2008-06-14 Thread Jos Chrispijn

Lars Eighner wrote:
The first step is find out what happened to it.  In this case MOVED 
tells us

this module has moved to core perl.  I believe upgrading perl and forcing

[-]

Lars, thanks for sharing; I will follow your suggestion. Didn't know 
this MOVED thing...


-- Jos
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Re: how to view environment variables

2008-06-14 Thread Sahil Tandon
Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various environment 
 variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I find out what they are 
 set to? set and printenv don't find them. I'm using standard csh and  
 FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE, fuse.ko is loaded and ntfs-3g works except it seems 
 very slow.
  
Did you read the csh(1) man page?

setenv [name [value]]

Without  arguments,  prints  the names and values of all environment 
variables.  Given name, sets the environment variable name to value or,  
without value, to the null string.
   
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Re: how to view environment variables

2008-06-14 Thread RW
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:27:10 +0100
Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various
 environment variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I find
 out what they are set to? set and printenv don't find them. I'm using
 standard csh and FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE, fuse.ko is loaded and ntfs-3g
 works except it seems very slow.

If you didn't set them, they probably aren't set. You'll need to
consult the fusefs-ntfs documentation (or source) to find the default
value.
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Re: md devices mounted with async

2008-06-14 Thread RW
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:19:46 +0200
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 RW wrote:
  mdmfs(8) has an example of a malloc-backed md device mounted with
  the async option. Is there any point in doing this with malloc and
  vnode devices? In neither case does a write to the file-system
  require a write to a physical disk.
 
 Well, for vnode devices it does write to the disk, 

I meant that a write to the filesystem doesn't require a corresponding
write to disk, and the change can stay in memory indefinitely.
Presumably, more or less, the same inactive pages get written-out to
swap, with or without async.  

 but that isn't the 
 point; in both cases you are writing to the filesystem that is
 mounted on top of the md, so that will be faster if it is mounted
 async.

In that case, why doesn't /etc/rc.d/tmp default to mounting its
swap-backed /tmp with async?
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Re: how to view environment variables

2008-06-14 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Robert Huff wrote:

Chris Whitehouse writes:


 sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various
 environment variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I
 find out what they are set to? set and printenv don't find
 them. I'm using standard csh


	In that case, try setenv with no arguements.  



Robert Huff


No not that either. Shouldn't I somehow be able to get into ntfs-3g's 
environment? From README.FreeBSD


eco# env UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE=2097152 ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /ad0s1
eco# echo $UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE
UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE: Undefined variable.

But it must be getting set because write speed changes when the block 
size is changed.


Chris
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Re: how to view environment variables

2008-06-14 Thread Chris Whitehouse

RW wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:27:10 +0100
Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello,

sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various
environment variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I find
out what they are set to? set and printenv don't find them. I'm using
standard csh and FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE, fuse.ko is loaded and ntfs-3g
works except it seems very slow.


If you didn't set them, they probably aren't set. You'll need to
consult the fusefs-ntfs documentation (or source) to find the default
value.


I think this explains part of my confusion. If the variables are not set 
ntfs-3g assumes some defaults (in README.FreeBSD) but doesn't set them 
as environment variables. I thought ntfs-3g would actually set them. I 
still don't know how to view them when I have explicitly set them, as 
per previous reply to Robert Huff.


eco# env UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE=65536 ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /ad0s1
eco# setenv |grep UBLIO
eco#

Chris


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Re: md devices mounted with async

2008-06-14 Thread Kris Kennaway

RW wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 01:19:46 +0200
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


RW wrote:

mdmfs(8) has an example of a malloc-backed md device mounted with
the async option. Is there any point in doing this with malloc and
vnode devices? In neither case does a write to the file-system
require a write to a physical disk.
Well, for vnode devices it does write to the disk, 


I meant that a write to the filesystem doesn't require a corresponding
write to disk, and the change can stay in memory indefinitely.
Presumably, more or less, the same inactive pages get written-out to
swap, with or without async.  


Well, it doesn't necessarily cause a write to disk for each filesystem 
write, but the synchronization mode of the filesystem to the backing 
store is precisely what the async/noasync/sync mount options control!


but that isn't the 
point; in both cases you are writing to the filesystem that is

mounted on top of the md, so that will be faster if it is mounted
async.


In that case, why doesn't /etc/rc.d/tmp default to mounting its
swap-backed /tmp with async?


It should.

Kris

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Re: how to view environment variables

2008-06-14 Thread RW
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 02:05:07 +0100
Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 RW wrote:
  On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 00:27:10 +0100
  Chris Whitehouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Hello,
 
  sysutils/fusefs-ntfs/files/README.FreeBSD refers to various
  environment variables, eg UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE and others. How do I find
  out what they are set to? set and printenv don't find them. I'm
  using standard csh and FreeBSD 7.0-STABLE, fuse.ko is loaded and
  ntfs-3g works except it seems very slow.
  
  If you didn't set them, they probably aren't set. You'll need to
  consult the fusefs-ntfs documentation (or source) to find the
  default value.
 
 I think this explains part of my confusion. If the variables are not
 set ntfs-3g assumes some defaults (in README.FreeBSD) but doesn't set
 them as environment variables. I thought ntfs-3g would actually set
 them. I still don't know how to view them when I have explicitly set
 them, as per previous reply to Robert Huff.
 
 eco# env UBLIO_BLOCKSIZE=65536 ntfs-3g /dev/ad0s1 /ad0s1
 eco# setenv |grep UBLIO
 eco#

If you set them separately in the shell the new process will inherit
them - env only sets the environment in the new process. This wont buy
you anything though for the reason you mention, and because parent
processes don't pick-up changes to the environment made by
child-processes anyway.
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Re: md devices mounted with async

2008-06-14 Thread RW
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:08:34 +0200
Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 RW wrote:
  I meant that a write to the filesystem doesn't require a
  corresponding write to disk, and the change can stay in memory
  indefinitely. Presumably, more or less, the same inactive pages get
  written-out to swap, with or without async.  
 
 Well, it doesn't necessarily cause a write to disk for each
 filesystem write, but the synchronization mode of the filesystem to
 the backing store is precisely what the async/noasync/sync mount
 options control!

It's not obvious that that's true when the backing-store is swap, I
would have expected that changes would only be written-out when memory
is needed elsewhere rather than to keep the backing-store synchronized.

If I put some big files in /tmp (mounted noasync) the amount of swap
used is often much less the total storage used in /tmp (up to a 1GB
difference, 2/3 of ram), and it can remain like that indefinitely,
which implies that a swap-backed filesystem can remain out of sync with
it's backing-store indefinitely. 

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