Re: RELENG_4 IPX commit broke net/mars_nwe?

2005-01-13 Thread Boris Popov
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 08:50:02PM +0300, Igor B. Bykhalo wrote:
 
 Looks like the follwoing commit broke net/mars_nwe port
 on my RELENG_4 file server box:

Yes, it seems to be.  Mars_nwe have different idea about
added macro:

# define sipx_node sipx_addr.x_host.c_host
# define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.c_net
# define ipx_netlong(iaddr) (((union ipx_net_u *)(((iaddr).x_net)))-long_e)

 
  Edit src/sys/netipx/ipx.h
   Add delta 1.15.2.1 2005.01.02.13.00.51 rwatson
 
 
 ===
 RCS file: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v
 retrieving revision 1.15
 retrieving revision 1.15.2.1
 diff -u -p -r1.15 -r1.15.2.1
 --- src/sys/netipx/ipx.h1999/08/28 18:21:52 1.15
 +++ src/sys/netipx/ipx.h2005/01/02 13:00:51 1.15.2.1
 @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@
   *
   * @(#)ipx.h
   *
 - * $FreeBSD: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v 1.15 
 1999/08/28 18:21:52 jhay Exp $
 + * $FreeBSD: /usr/local/www/cvsroot/FreeBSD/src/sys/netipx/ipx.h,v 1.15.2.1 
 2005/01/02 13:00:51 rwatson Exp $
   */
  
  #ifndef _NETIPX_IPX_H_
 @@ -108,6 +108,7 @@ union ipx_host {
  union ipx_net {
 u_char  c_net[4];
 u_short s_net[2];
 +   u_int   u_net;
  };
  
  union ipx_net_u {
 @@ -131,6 +132,8 @@ struct sockaddr_ipx {
 charsipx_zero[2];
  };
  #define sipx_port sipx_addr.x_port
 +#define sipx_network sipx_addr.x_net.u_net
 +#define sipx_node sipx_addr.x_host.c_host
  
  /*
   * Definitions for IPX Internetwork Packet Exchange Protocol
 

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Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3?

2005-01-13 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 02:11:27 +0100 Anthony Atkielski
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Scott Bennett writes:

SB I notice that the 5.2.1 boot messages refer to the second core as an
SB AP, which I'm guessing stands for attached processor. If that
SB guess is correct, then it means that only the first core is able to
SB perform certain functions, and the AP core has to get the first core
SB to do those things for it when it needs them done.

AP just stands for application processor, from what I've seen. My
impression from snooping in the code and looking elsewhere is that an AP
is just a processor that is halted during system boot. The processor
that executes the boot sequence is the bootstrap processor (BSP). Once
the boot proceeds far enough to allow synchronization of multiple
processors, the other processors (APs all) are started by the BSP.

 Oh, good.  That sounds much better than what I was thinking.

This doesn't necessarily mean that the BSP is special in any other way
outside of startup or shutdown, and hopefully it is not, as that would
defeat much of the conceptual purpose behind SMP. I know that on
operating systems that insist on keeping one processor special for
certain tasks, the speed of this processor often becomes a bottleneck on
heavily loaded systems, as it tops out trying to handle all the
restricted stuff for the other processors and itself.

 Usually that sort of restriction has a basis in hardware.  For example,
IBM's MP mainframes *used to* require that the same processor that started
an I/O operation be the one that fielded the interrupt(s) upon completion
of the operation.  Some machines also had the main processor/attached
processor configuration, in which the attached processor had no access to
the I/O hardware at all, so all I/O handling had to be done by the main
processor because the AP had no way to do it.

SB What Intel claims is essentially that the HT-enabled CPUs allow
SB snappier responses in interactive processes when a CPU-bound process
SB is running.

That I can believe.  One of the great advantages to a multiple-processor
system is that it's much less likely to bog down if a process decides to
hog a processor (unless the process runs multiple threads).  I think MP
is more interesting for its ability to run completely independent
processes or threads than it is for its ability to run multiple
threads doing the same thing.  Few applications require multiple
high-speed processors churning through code all at once.

 My main interest in such things at present is for dividing the workload
in fluid dynamics and, most especially, geophysical fluid dynamics models.
Those, of course, do immense amounts of number-crunching with occasional,
massive bouts of I/O.  I want to play around with making a two-threaded
version of a GFD model (either atmospheric or oceanic) to see what, if any,
savings there may be in elapsed time by running on both cores vs. just one.
Such a model would have both threads doing essentially the same things,
though operating upon different parts of the arrays involved.
 But first, I still have to get a usable FreeBSD system going. :-(


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Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386

2005-01-13 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:54, Doug Poland wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm having a problem with gmirror.  It would seem that I cannot add my
 first disk to the mirror after booting off the second drive.  My current
 status is a degraded mirror and I cannot see any of the partitions on
 disk one.

 For a guide, I'm using the excellent instructions at:
 http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/

 My system has identical WD 80GB SATA drives (ad4 and ad6).  I've
 followed the steps in the document that are labeled:

   GEOM mirror Approach 2: Single Slice, Preferred, More Flexible

 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad6 bs=512 count=79
 # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad6

 # gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6s1
 # gmirror load

 # bsdlabel -w -B /dev/mirror/gm0s1
 # bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/gm0s1

 # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1a
 # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /mnt
 # dump -L -0 -f- / | (cd /mnt; restore -r -v -f-)
 # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1d
 # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /mnt/var
 # dump -L -0 -f- /var | (cd /mnt/var; restore -r -v -f-)
 # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1e
 # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /mnt/tmp
 # dump -L -0 -f- /tmp | (cd /mnt/tmp; restore -r -v -f-)
 # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /mnt/usr
 # dump -L -0 -f- /usr | (cd /mnt/usr; restore -r -v -f-)
 # cp -p /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/etc/fstab.orig

 # sed -e 's/dev\/ad4s1/dev\/mirror\/gm0s1/g' /mnt/etc/fstab.orig
 # echo 'swapoff=YES' /mnt/etc/rc.conf
 # echo 'geom_mirror_load=YES' /mnt/boot/loader.conf
 # echo 1:ad(6,a)/boot/loader /boot.config

 # shutdown -r now

 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79

You probably destroyed your slice table here. The dd command only makes sense 
if you insert whole disks (ie. /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6) as providers. Otherwise 
you need to create (or already have) a valid slice table on the disk, which 
enables gmirror to locate and insert your slice. 

(!) Before you start to correct your gmirror setup, please read all of my 
comments, because to me it looks like you run a mirror of ad6 and not ad6s1.
  
First you want to stop the mirror, you accidently started on ad4 (as seen in 
your 'gmirror list' output):
  # gmirror stop -v mirror

Then remove the gmirror metadata from ad4:  
  # gmirror remove -v mirror /dev/ad4

Clean out the first few sectors on ad4:
  # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79

Write out slice table where the only slice on te disk is ad4s1 (**:
  # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad4

After that go on with your procedure to add /dev/ad4s1 to mirror gm0s1: 

 # gmirror configure -a gm0s1

(**
Your 'gmirror list' output below looks like your mirror gm0s1 doesn't 
use /dev/ad6s1 as provider, it more likely uses /dev/ad6. So if this is the 
case, you may want to mirror the whole device (/dev/ad4), instead of the 
slice (/dev/ad4s1). Also, in this case don't use command 'fdisk -v -B 
- -I /dev/ad4', because MBR and slice table will be copied from ad6. 

[ # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4  instead of /dev/ad4s1] 

 # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1


 At this point I see...

  Unknown provider ad4s1

 A gmirror list reveals:

 Geom name: mirror
 State: DEGRADED
 Components: 2
 Balance: load
 Slice: 2048
 Flags: NONE
 SyncID: 2
 ID: 4216140117
 Providers:
 1. Name: mirror/mirror
  ^^ 
Mediasize: 80026361344 (75G)
Sectorsize: 512
Mode: r0w0e0
 Consumers:
 1. Name: ad4
   ^^^
This looks if you have entered a command like
'gmirror label -v -n -b load mirror /dev/ad4'?

Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G)
Sectorsize: 512
Mode: r0w0e0
State: ACTIVE
Priority: 0
Flags: NONE
SyncID: 2
ID: 3073402045

 Geom name: mirror.sync

 Geom name: gm0s1
 State: COMPLETE
 Components: 1
 Balance: round-robin
 Slice: 4096
 Flags: NONE
 SyncID: 1
 ID: 3205827760
 Providers:
 1. Name: mirror/gm0s1
Mediasize: 80026329088 (75G)
Sectorsize: 512
Mode: r5w5e1
 Consumers:
 1. Name: ad6
   ^^^
Same as above, this looks to me like you have entered a command like 'gmirror 
label -v -n -b round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6' instead of 'gmirror label -v -n -b 
round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6s1'? Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe there are some stale 
metadata on your disks?

Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G)
Sectorsize: 512
Mode: r5w5e2
State: ACTIVE
Priority: 0
Flags: DIRTY
SyncID: 1
ID: 1606771156

 geom name: gm0s1.sync

[...]

 webhost02# bsdlabel /dev/ad4
 bsdlabel: /dev/ad4: no valid label found

As I said above, your slice table has been zeroed by the dd command.

Cheers,
ch

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FBSD boot loader?

2005-01-13 Thread John Conover

Is there a 1024 cylinder limit on the first slice for a dual boot
PC system using the FBSD boot loader?

I presume there is, but I couldn't find it in the handbook. Maybe I
missed it.

Thanks,

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dhcpd for ipv6

2005-01-13 Thread Erik Norgaard
Hi,
kame dhcpd does not support address allocation and isc-dhcpd does not 
support ipv6 - despite ipv6 being defined in 1996. This makes running an 
ipv6 based local network cumbersome to manage.

Does anyone know of alternatives? I would like to set up a lan with 
ipv4/6 and an ipv6to4 gateway. How do you manage your ipv6 lan?

Cheers, Erik
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Re: FBSD boot loader?

2005-01-13 Thread Christian Hiris
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On Thursday 13 January 2005 10:02, John Conover wrote:
 Is there a 1024 cylinder limit on the first slice for a dual boot
 PC system using the FBSD boot loader?

This depends if your computers BIOS supports disk packet interface, see 'man 8 
boot0cfg', scroll down to -o options, option packet. If your box is not too 
old, this should work. 

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=boot0cfgsektion=8

Cheers,
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RE: Trouble starting MySQL

2005-01-13 Thread Freek Nossin
People should really check /usr/ports/CHANGES after synchronising the ports
tree.

One of the entries in the file is: 
(there are also entries for the other mysql versions)

20041019:
  AFFECTS: users of databases/mysql41-server
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  The MySQL Daemon must now be enabled / disabled in rc.conf.
  See the script for details. 

I hope this helps ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: woensdag 12 januari 2005 15:10
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Trouble starting MySQL

On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 09:35:21AM -, Walker, Michael wrote:
 
 Greetings all,
 I installed MySQL from ports (mysql-4.1.7) then tried to start it. 
 Nothing doing - wo way.
 
 Starting it from /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh nothing happens. 
 No error message is emitted, but no running instance of mysql either.
 
 snip
 
 Read /usr/loca/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh you now have to start mysqld 
 from your rc.conf file.

I am confused.  I run FreeBSD 4.10 stable with mysql-server-4.0.21 installed
from the ports.

I have nothing in my rc.conf file for mysql, but I do have a
/usr/local/etc/rc.d/mysql-server.sh file.

When I rebooted the machine last month, mysql started without anything in
the rc.conf file.  

Why?
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Re: Security port: automated integration in the mail/file server - to do or not to do ?

2005-01-13 Thread Adi Pircalabu
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 16:58:10 +0200
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 While I try to make my ports as user friendly and automated as
 possible, I would vote for 2) above. I hate when something just
 changes on my system without me telling it to do so explicitly; plus I
 could very well install the port today and wait to the end of the week
 to switch it on for testing; plus there will always be some strange
 edge cases when you'll just break some custom configuration.

Thank you for answering. I'll think about your answer, trying to balance
the opinions on this topic, but the adequate decision is still quite
difficult to take at this moment. Any other opinions which I should
consider?

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Re: 4.9 rebooting

2005-01-13 Thread Shane Ambler
I would agree with looking into hardware problems - I have a MSI-694 dual
proc machine that about two or three months ago started rebooting once or
twice a week for no apparent reason, then one hot day it became several
times a day and I shut it down before going away for xmas. Now it won't even
attempt to start with both cpu's - with one it will boot but at one of the
hardware probes (just after keyboard) it restarts, as if someone is hitting
the reset button.

If it is failing hardware you may find no indication of the fault - the
faulty hardware may cause the same effect as someone pressing the reset
button - your logs would show normal operation then dmesg would show system
boot with disks unmounted properly and starting (or delaying) fsck.


On 13/1/05 8:06 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If this was something like a kernel panic there would be a
 message in /var/log/messages
 
 If nothing is in there then it's probably failing hardware.
 My experiences in those cases is that no matter what logging you
 turn on, nothing gets logged, the machine just reboots.
 
 If it's a remote colocated server maybe the UPS it's on
 is shot, and it's getting power fluctuations.  Or maybe
 it's overheating or it's clogged with dust.
 
 Ted
 
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 Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 10:40 AM
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 Subject: 4.9 rebooting
 
 
 I have a remote server which has begun re-booting every few days.
 
 Are there any logs which I can examine that may provide a clue as to
 the reason? Or any logging I can turn on/up ? I realize that
 during a reboot, logs are seldom up-to-date, but any clue would
 be handy.
 
 This is a remote co-located server which will take a fairly
 expensive trip to get hands-on with. I'd like to have ammunition
 at hand before I commit to the trip.
 
 Thanks,
 Jim
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Re: Production Release 5.3 Installation Won't Boot

2005-01-13 Thread babaloo munchies
Greetings,

Thank you for your quick response.  The CD image
itself was fine--the 5.3 installation disc booted on a
newer laptop.

I finally gave up and used floppies and was able to
install 5.3 from CD on the pentium mmx desktop.  This
is strange because the 4.8 installation cd booted fine
on the same pentium desktop.

One difference between 4.8  5.3 is that the 5.3 loads
ACPI , but is the ACPI module loaded in the
installation kernel? Is it an interrupt problem?  I
don't know.  But I do have 5.3 running happily on it
now thanks to teh floppies.

(sorry if I don't understand the FreeBSD kernel or if
I'm using the wrong terminology.  In GNU/Linux I
believe ACPI must be compiled into the kernel.)

thank you gods (devils) of FreeBSD.  FYI, this pentium
mmx machine running 5.3 is a ROCKET even when compared
to an optimally compiled Gentoo Linux kernel.  I have
never seen any machine boot as fast, restart apache 
serve webpages as fast as this, and it's only a
pentium mmx. wow.  



--- Fabian Keil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 31 December 2004 14:03, Andrew L. Gould
 wrote:
  On Friday 31 December 2004 05:19 am, babaloo
 munchies wrote:
 
   I downloaded ISO images disc 1  disc 2  the
 boot
   disk for FreeBSD 5.3 to install on a Pentium MMX
   machine.  None of these discs will boot for the
   installation!  What happens is the CD drive
 fires up,
   I see a couple of lines from FreeBSD--the
 bootloader
   or something--it acts like it's trying to boot. 
 The
   CD drive spins up, the two or three lines flash
 on the
   screen but then the whole computer restarts.  It
 keeps
   doing this over and over again for each disc.
  
   I had an old FreeBSD 4.8 disc and it booted
 fine.  I
   thought maybe my burner had problems so I burned
 a
   Linux distro and it booted fine.
  
   So the problem cannot be the CD medium (3 cds w/
 same
   problem?), not the CD burner and not the
 machine.
   What's going on?  This is the third time I've
 tried
   FreeBSD and failed to get it to work.  I just
 give up
   and revert to linux because at least I can
 install it
   each and every time.  But I want to use FreeBSD.
  
   Any help would be appreciated.
  
  Perhaps the problem is with the iso image.  Try
 downloading the iso file 
  for CD1 again.
 
 Comparing the md5sum of the image with the one at
 the server
 might save bandwidth. 
 
 Regards
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Re: Production Release 5.3 Installation Won't Boot

2005-01-13 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
I had the same problem (continous boot cycle if booting
from the CDROM media).
In my case FreeBSD 5.3 did not like my Promise IDE
controller ...
babaloo munchies schrieb:
One difference between 4.8  5.3 is that the 5.3 loads
ACPI , but is the ACPI module loaded in the
installation kernel? Is it an interrupt problem?  I
don't know.  But I do have 5.3 running happily on it
now thanks to teh floppies.
AFAIK - FreeBSD, per defualt, does not boot with ACPI
enabled.
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Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3?

2005-01-13 Thread Andrea Venturoli
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Where these computations in which all threads were doing pretty much the
same thing?
Not exactly the same algorithm and on different set of data.

And was it floating-point?
Yes.

(Doesn't the processor have just one FPU, or something like that?)
I don't really know (I made this test almost for fun and curiosity), but 
I really supposed this must be true. Anyway I saw both CPU at 100%.



An AMD processor will also melt or catch fire if the CPU fan fails,
whereas an Intel processor won't.
In the past.
Nowadays they have some sort of protection.
BTW I've already seen a couple of (old) Athlons with a failing fan; they 
run overheated probably for months with occasional system lockups, but 
they are now working good with a new fan.
I'll stop here, we are going OT (and flaming :)...

 bye
av.
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Re: FreeBSD 5.3 - Write failure on transfer

2005-01-13 Thread lists
Further to this problem, I have tried installing FreeBSD5.3 on a second 
hp netserver and I continue to get the same problem during the install 
process.

Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 1425408 bytes)
After two weeks of stuffing around I am giving up on 5.3 - there is 
clearly something wrong with 5.3 - there does not appear to be anything 
wrong with the hardware - its appears to be a FreeBSD 5.3 issue -. I 
have gone back to 4.10 which installs fine. Somewhere between 4.10 and 
5.3 something has broken in relation to an installation on a netserver box.

Has anyone else got a hp netserver LC2000r or similar box and been able 
to get 5.3 installed?

Lino
lists wrote:
It looks like it is having a problem relating to the mounting the 
drives. When I rerun the FreeBSD5.3 install a second time - it lists 
the drives from the first install but they are missing the mount 
locations.

Any suggestions on a work around?
Lino
lists wrote:
Loren M. Lang wrote:
On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 03:53:33PM +1030, Lino Fusco wrote:
 

Hi,
I am a newbie to this list and I hope I am posting to the correct 
list - apologies if I am off target.

I am installing FreeBSD 5.3 on a  hp netserver LC2000r. The box is 
a dual processor P3 with three scsi2 drives running in a raid1 
configuration with one hot spare.

We have six of these boxes. Three of them are running FreeBSD 4.8 
or 4.9 without a hitch.

I decided to install 5.3 from CD on a fourth box and I am having a 
problem.

I go through the install process. When it goes to write the file 
structure to the drives it does this in a around 1 second - this 
seems very fast. Then it starts copying from the CD and I quickly 
get the following error:

Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 1425408 bytes)
I click ok and the next error message is:
unable to transfer the base distribution from acd0, do you want to 
try to retrieve it again?.

So this has started me troubleshooting the possible causes of the 
problem:

1) First stop was to suspect the freebsd iso I had burnt was 
suspect. So I re burnt the cd  and the problem persisted. I then 
suspected the ISO I had downloaded was corrupted. So I downloaded 
it again, burnt the cd but the problem still persisted.

2) I then suspected the second copy could have come from a cache 
and therefore may have the same problem as the first copy - so I 
checked the md5 signature but it lines up with the original from 
freebsd.org

3) I suspected the CD Rom drive - so I swapped it with one of our 
other Netserver boxes - problem still persisted.

4)I suspected a drive formatting problem - so I went back into the 
SCSI software, redid the raid drives and reformatted them - problem 
still persisted.

5) I suspected another hardware problem - so I pulled out FreeBSD 
4.9 to see if that would install - and it did install without any 
errors. That sort of discounts there being any hardware problems. 
It points to something specific to freebsd 5.3.

So this is where I have got to - FreeBSD 4.9 will install without 
errors but 5.3 will not install.

I suspect the problem has to do with the initial setting up of the 
file structure - 5.3 is doing this in about one second whereas 4.9 
takes closer to a minute to do this.

Any thoughts or suggestion?
  

I believe FreeBSD 5.3 does support using UFS 1 in the install, just
check the option in the disklabel program, but if the partitioning also
fails then that may not be the problem.
 

Lino
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Hi,
Tried setting the partitions to UFS1 - FreeBSD 5.3 then takes closer 
to a minute to setup the partitions just like 4.9 - but still get the 
same error message when it goes to copy the files.

Thanks but did not work.
Lino
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ACPI error at boot

2005-01-13 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

When the machine boots, I get those messages about ACPI.

I am clueless about the meaning/gravity. Machine is a SE7501WV2 from
Intel, with dual Xeon.

Help please.

Bests,

Olivier

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Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Wed Jan 12 10:59:15 ICT 2005
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ACPI APIC Table: INTEL  SWV25   
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.06GHz (3056.82-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf29  Stepping = 9
  Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,C
MOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
real memory  = 2147418112 (2047 MB)
avail memory = 2100158464 (2002 MB)
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [DEB_] had invalid type (Integer) fo
r Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [MLIB] had invalid type (Integer) fo
r Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [DATA] had invalid type (String) for
 Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [SIO_] had invalid type (String) for
 Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [LEDP] had invalid type (String) for
 Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [GPEN] had invalid type (String) for
 Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [GPST] had invalid type (String) for
 Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [WUES] had invalid type (String) for
 Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [WUSE] had invalid type (String) for
 Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [SBID] had invalid type (String) for
 Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ACPI-0697: *** Warning: Type override - [SWCE] had invalid type (String) for
 Scope operator, changed to (Scope)
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on motherboard
ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 48-71 on motherboard
lapic0: Forcing LINT1 to edge trigger
npx0: [FAST]
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: INTEL SWV25 on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
acpi_ec0: Embedded Controller: GPE 0x8 port 0xca7,0xca6 on acpi0
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
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Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3?

2005-01-13 Thread Olivier Nicole
 Did it start up when you replaced the fan, or was it gone for good?

It was dead for good, well it is still dead as a matter of fact :)

 I thought all the boxed P4 processors came with their own fan, so there
 should never be a case in which a PC is sold with a P4 but no CPU fan.

So did I, so did I, but one sees strange things when buying a machine
from a cheap assembly shop (I was not the first buyer, I just got the
machine when it became unusable and then I was curious so I opened it,
what the first owner never did).

Olivier
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Re: pkg_info question

2005-01-13 Thread Louis LeBlanc
On 01/12/05 06:01 PM, Kris Kennaway sat at the `puter and typed:
 On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 08:45:30PM -0500, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
  Hey folks.  I'm trying to make a cruft killing run through my
  installed packages.
  
  What would make this a lot easier is if I could easily get a list of
  packages that are installed that are NOT required by other packages.
  
  I know that `pkg_info -aR` will give me all packages along with those
  that require it.   Anyone know how best to get a list of packages
  without dependant packages installed?
 
 pkg_cutleaves

Excellent!  Precisely what I was looking for.  Thanks Kris!

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anyone using Putty and ssh-agent?

2005-01-13 Thread Dan Langille
I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable.  
Anyone succeeded?

I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is  
just putty, not ssh-agent.
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Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent?

2005-01-13 Thread Jon Krause

From: Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent?


: I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable.  
: Anyone succeeded?
: 
: I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is  
: just putty, not ssh-agent.
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What version of Putty are you using?  
There are know issues with ssh2 on earlier versions of Putty.
Try Putty Release 0.56

Best, Jon

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Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent?

2005-01-13 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
If you are using PuTTY on Windows why don't you use
pageant.exe on Windows as well?
Dan Langille schrieb:
I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable.  
Anyone succeeded?

I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is  
just putty, not ssh-agent.
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Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent?

2005-01-13 Thread Dan Langille
On 13 Jan 2005 at 14:29, Daniel S. Haischt wrote:

 Dan Langille schrieb:
  I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable.  
  Anyone succeeded?
  
  I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is  
  just putty, not ssh-agent.

 If you are using PuTTY on Windows why don't you use
 pageant.exe on Windows as well?

I'm not using Windows.  I'm using FreeBSD 5.3-stable.
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Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent?

2005-01-13 Thread Dan Langille
On 13 Jan 2005 at 8:29, Jon Krause wrote:

 From: Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent?
 
 
 : I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable.  
 : Anyone succeeded?
 : 
 : I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is  
 : just putty, not ssh-agent.

 
 What version of Putty are you using?  
 There are know issues with ssh2 on earlier versions of Putty.
 Try Putty Release 0.56

It is Putty 0.56.

And I have solved the issue.  I was getting prompted for my user 
name.  I assumed that indicated ssh-agent was not working.  I entered 
my user name, and I'm logged in.

I went to the configuration items and set Auto-login username to 
'dan'.  Now when I run putty, all I need to do is specify the 
hostname, and I'm logged in.

[for those trying to find out how to do this, the hosts I logged into 
already have my public ssh key in their ~/.ssh/authorized_keys2 file]


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Cut and paste in Emacs

2005-01-13 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

There is that strange and annoying behaviours that I have noticed with
Emacs 21.3.1. Other versions I used to use were in the 19ish and had
no problem.

When I select some text with the mouse in Emacs, i can copy it into
another X window application, but I cannot copy it in a Win2K
application.

When I select some text in any other X Window application, I can copy
it into Win2k, so the mechanism select in X, paste in w2k is working.

So now when I want to copy/paste from emacs to w2k, I have to paste in
some other place, select again and finally paste in w2k.

Any clue/help would be welcome.

best regards,

Olivier
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Re: FBSD boot loader?

2005-01-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 
 Is there a 1024 cylinder limit on the first slice for a dual boot
 PC system using the FBSD boot loader?
 
 I presume there is, but I couldn't find it in the handbook. Maybe I
 missed it.
 

Not if you have a reasonably recent BIOS.
FreeBSD can handle it just fine as long as the BIOS can deal with
it to get started.

This is a question handled often and I believe there is a FAQ on it
that can explain it much better than I can.

jerry

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Re: gmirror problem on 5.3-R i386

2005-01-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Hello,
 
 I'm having a problem with gmirror.  It would seem that I cannot add my
 first disk to the mirror after booting off the second drive.  My current
 status is a degraded mirror and I cannot see any of the partitions on
 disk one.  
 
 For a guide, I'm using the excellent instructions at:
 http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/
 
 My system has identical WD 80GB SATA drives (ad4 and ad6).  I've
 followed the steps in the document that are labeled: 
 
   GEOM mirror Approach 2: Single Slice, Preferred, More Flexible
 
 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad6 bs=512 count=79
 # fdisk -v -B -I /dev/ad6
 
 # gmirror label -v -n -b round-robin gm0s1 /dev/ad6s1
 # gmirror load
 
 # bsdlabel -w -B /dev/mirror/gm0s1
 # bsdlabel -e /dev/mirror/gm0s1
 
 # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1a
 # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1a /mnt
 # dump -L -0 -f- / | (cd /mnt; restore -r -v -f-)
 # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1d
 # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1d /mnt/var
 # dump -L -0 -f- /var | (cd /mnt/var; restore -r -v -f-)
 # newfs -U /dev/mirror/gm0s1e
 # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1e /mnt/tmp
 # dump -L -0 -f- /tmp | (cd /mnt/tmp; restore -r -v -f-)
 # mount /dev/mirror/gm0s1f /mnt/usr
 # dump -L -0 -f- /usr | (cd /mnt/usr; restore -r -v -f-)
 # cp -p /mnt/etc/fstab /mnt/etc/fstab.orig
 
 # sed -e 's/dev\/ad4s1/dev\/mirror\/gm0s1/g' /mnt/etc/fstab.orig
 # echo 'swapoff=YES' /mnt/etc/rc.conf
 # echo 'geom_mirror_load=YES' /mnt/boot/loader.conf
 # echo 1:ad(6,a)/boot/loader /boot.config
 
 # shutdown -r now
 
 # dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad4 bs=512 count=79

Well, I am not so familiar with gmirror, but the dd in each case
completely overwrites the slice and partition tables and any other
boot stuff at the beginning of the disk with zeros.   That is often 
done to make sure it is clear and treated as a clean disk.  I see that 
after the first dd  (to /dev/ad6) you have an fdisk which then writes 
a slice table.
But, after the second dd (to /dev/ad4) you do not have any fdisk
so it might not know what to do with that.  You may need an equivalent
fdisk here too.

jerry

 
 # gmirror configure -a gm0s1
 # gmirror insert gm0s1 /dev/ad4s1
 
 At this point I see...
 
   Unknown provider ad4s1
 
 A gmirror list reveals:
 
 Geom name: mirror
 State: DEGRADED
 Components: 2
 Balance: load
 Slice: 2048
 Flags: NONE
 SyncID: 2
 ID: 4216140117
 Providers:
 1. Name: mirror/mirror
Mediasize: 80026361344 (75G)
Sectorsize: 512
Mode: r0w0e0
 Consumers:
 1. Name: ad4
Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G)
Sectorsize: 512
Mode: r0w0e0
State: ACTIVE
Priority: 0
Flags: NONE
SyncID: 2
ID: 3073402045
 
 Geom name: mirror.sync
 
 Geom name: gm0s1
 State: COMPLETE
 Components: 1
 Balance: round-robin
 Slice: 4096
 Flags: NONE
 SyncID: 1
 ID: 3205827760
 Providers:
 1. Name: mirror/gm0s1
Mediasize: 80026329088 (75G)
Sectorsize: 512
Mode: r5w5e1
 Consumers:
 1. Name: ad6
Mediasize: 80026361856 (75G)
Sectorsize: 512
Mode: r5w5e2
State: ACTIVE
Priority: 0
Flags: DIRTY
SyncID: 1
ID: 1606771156
 
 Geom name: gm0s1.sync
 
 Here's a snippet of /var/log/messages after the first reboot:
 
 Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1 created 
 (id=3205827760).
 Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 
 detected.
 Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 
 activated.
 Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider 
 mirror/gm0s1 launched.
 Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror created 
 (id=4216140117).
 Jan 12 17:47:21 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 
 detected.
 Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Force device mirror start due 
 to timeout.
 Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Cannot update metadata on disk 
 ad4 (error=1).
 Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 
 activated.
 Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider 
 mirror/mirror launched.
 Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Cannot update metadata on disk 
 ad4 (error=1).
 Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 
 disconnected.
 Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider 
 mirror/mirror destroyed.
 Jan 12 17:47:25 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror destroyed.
 Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel
 
 Subsequent reboots reveal:
 
 Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror created 
 (id=4216140117).
 Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror: provider ad4 
 detected.
 Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1 created 
 (id=3205827760).
 Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 
 detected.
 Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: GEOM_MIRROR: Device gm0s1: provider ad6 
 activated.
 Jan 12 17:57:32 webhost02 kernel: 

Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent?

2005-01-13 Thread Nelis Lamprecht
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:26:43 -0500, Dan Langille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm trying to get putty and ssh-agent working under 5.3-stable.
 Anyone succeeded?
 
 I have plain ssh working with ssh-agent, but not putty. The issue is
 just putty, not ssh-agent.
 --

Similiar problems have been noted on this list before with putty, the
solution was to set PasswordAuthentication to yes in your sshd_config
which is disabled by default in 5.3

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dspam

2005-01-13 Thread Olga Zenkova
Hi!
I use dspam-2.10.3. Is it possible to use it not for
all users of FreeBSD system?

Thanks,
Olga   

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Re: Cut and paste in Emacs

2005-01-13 Thread Kris Maglione
Olivier Nicole wrote:
When I select some text with the mouse in Emacs, i can copy it into
another X window application, but I cannot copy it in a Win2K
application.
 

It would be helpful to know how you access the win2k application 
(rdesktop, vmware, ...).
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Re: Replacing both disks in RAID1

2005-01-13 Thread Toomas Aas
Toomas Aas wrote:
I have a small server running FreeBSD 4.10, 2 x 80 GB drives mirrored on 
Promise TX2 integrated RAID1 controller. I'd like to replace the 80 GB 
drives with 200 GB drives.

Here's my current plan:
1. Attach one of the new drives to free ICH4 IDE port on motherboard, 
partition it and transfer the data using dump/tar.

2. Remove the 80 GB drives, attach 200 GB drives (one with data, one 
blank) to TX2 IDE ports and re-create the mirror using Promise onboard 
BIOS utility.

3. Reboot, fix the fstab (if necessary) and be done with it.
I have one doubt with it. Currently my partitions are ar0s1a (/), ar0s1b 
(swap), ar0s1e (/var) etc. When I create corresponding partitions on the 
new drive while it is attached to ICH4 controller, the partitions are 
created as ad0s1a, ad0s1b etc. When I then move this drive to TX2 port 
and re-create the mirror the partitions should again be ar0s1a, ar0s1b 
etc. Will it just work or will it not work at all?
Another thought - maybe I shouldn't create the new array using the 
Promise BIOS utility, but instead should bring the server up and use 
'atacontrol create RAID1'? What do you think? Which method has a better 
chance of success?

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Re: dspam

2005-01-13 Thread Kris Maglione
Olga Zenkova wrote:
Hi!
I use dspam-2.10.3. Is it possible to use it not for
all users of FreeBSD system?
 

This is the wrong mailing list for this type of question, since it 
doesn't really relate to bsd, so much as your MTA/LDA.

Regardless, yes, it is possible, in any number of ways. What is your 
current setup?
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Re: dspam

2005-01-13 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
Hello,
I am using DSPAM 3.3-DEVEL but i guess DSPAM 2.10
works the same way regarding your question.
If you compiled DSPAM with the opt-out option
the user needs to place a .nodspam file in his
home directory if he wants to *not* use DSPAM.
Try some googeling to get some more details.
Olga Zenkova schrieb:
Hi!
I use dspam-2.10.3. Is it possible to use it not for
all users of FreeBSD system?
Thanks,
Olga   

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Re: Cut and paste in Emacs

2005-01-13 Thread Jon Drews
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:24:49 +0700 (ICT), Olivier Nicole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When I select some text with the mouse in Emacs, i can copy it into
 another X window application, but I cannot copy it in a Win2K
 application.
 
 When I select some text in any other X Window application, I can copy
 it into Win2k, so the mechanism select in X, paste in w2k is working.
 

This may be similar to a problem in copying from Emacs and pasting
into Gnumeric. Any way try this:

1) In EMACS do:  M-x clipboard-kill-ring-save RET
2) Then highlight the text and save it (either withe mouse or by
C-SPACE, followed by ESC-w, at the end of the region to be copied.

See this e-mail: 
Copying from EMACS to Gnumeric
http://www.silug.org/lists/silug-discuss/200407/msg00066.html
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Re: Definitions of process states in top

2005-01-13 Thread Chuck Swiger
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Is there someplace where I can find definitions of the process states
that I see in the STATE column of top?  RUN and CPU1 are easy enough
to figure out, but most of the rest are mysterious.
The states are scattered throughout the kernel:
sys/kern/kern_time.c:   error = tsleep(nanowait, PWAIT | PCATCH, nanslp,
src/sys/kern/tty.c: ttyin : ttyhup,
sys/kern/sys_pipe.c:piperd, 0)) == 0)
...for a few common states (nanslp, ttyin, piperd).  Use a command like:
find /usr/src/sys | xargs grep piperd
...and replace piperd with whatever state it is that you are curious about.
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Re: dhcpd for ipv6

2005-01-13 Thread Chuck Swiger
Erik Norgaard wrote:
kame dhcpd does not support address allocation and isc-dhcpd does not 
support ipv6 - despite ipv6 being defined in 1996. This makes running an 
ipv6 based local network cumbersome to manage.
You're absolutely right.
Does anyone know of alternatives?
Certainly: use IPv4.  ISC's dhcpd does just fine with classic IPv4 
addresses.
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Re: NFS Mount Issue

2005-01-13 Thread Colin J. Raven
Colin J. Raven wrote:

 I'm trying to mount my home directory on my office box (5.3-RELEASE) 
on my home box (5.3-RELEASE) and there is _no_ _way_ I have ever been 
able to make this work.

 /etc/exports on the NFS server is configured correctly (other 
exports to other boxen work fine)
 my entry reads:
 /usr/home/colin -mapall root 12.34.56.789 #home IP


Output of `showmount -e` is more usefull, then we can see what is 
actually exported. NFS is very sensitive to errors in exports. You 
probably don't want to use -mapall root, but rather -maproot=root, 
see exports(5). Get rid of the comment, just to be sure.

Sorry, this got lost as I was replacing my server, just managed to get 
the last dregs of data off the old one.


From /etc/exports on the office server
/usr/home/colin -maproot=root 123.45.6.789


Second: What have you set in your rc.conf? Are all things up and 
running?

From /etc/rc.conf
nfs_client_enable=YES
nfs_client_flags=-n 4 # Flags to nfsiod (if enabled)

from ps -aux |grep nfsiod
root   60  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL   Wed11AM   0:00.00 [nfsiod 
0]
root   61  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL   Wed11AM   0:00.00 [nfsiod 
1]
root   62  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL   Wed11AM   0:00.00 [nfsiod 
2]
root   63  0.0  0.0 0   12  ??  IL   Wed11AM   0:00.00 [nfsiod 
3]


when - from the console as root - I do:


 mount -v office.nfs.server:/usr/home/colin /office-box


You forgot to specify '-t nfs' or use 'mount_nfs' ?

OK, I now tried mount_nfs -LT office.nfs.server:/usr/home/colin 
/home/colin/office-box (line wrapped in mail client only)


I get rewarded with this message:

First try:
 [udp] office.nfs.server:/usr/home/colin: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: 
Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak

This time:
I get:
RPCPROG_NFS: RPC: Program not registered



quote:
Today I encounted this error for the first time. I was compiling a 
kernel on my fast box and while I was waiting I set up the slow box. I 
did this:

$ mount polo:/usr/src /usr/src
polo:/usr/src: RPCPROG_MNT: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client 
credential too weak

That confused me. I checked /var/log/messageson the NFS server:


 mountd[95]: mount request from 10.0.0.20 from unprivileged port


Ahhh! I wasn't root when I tried to mount! I su'd to root, and all was 
well.
quote-end.

Well I was root when I did it, and that didn't seem to matter.



I think it would help following an updated guide :-), I have had no 
problem exporting my /home. And, then post relevant settings from 
rc.conf, exports, `showmount -e` etc.

OK, I'm in the FreeBSD handbook now


PS: I note you are nfs-exporting across the internet, are you sure that 
is a good idea? Consider tunneling.

I tried googling on that, I wasn't successful in finding anything 
relevant to FreeBSD, most of the stuff seems to be highly Linux 
specific. It's a good idea, and one I'd like to do, but first I'd just 
like to be able to prove it works...then work upwards to tunneling


Just a thought here, I'm behind an ADSL router, should I be port 
forwarding some-port-or-other?

This should be *so* simple, clearly I'm overlooking something - and 
knowing me - something obvious.

Sorry for the delay in responding, but at least now I found my missing 
mail off the dead server.

-Colin
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Re: Sound not working - none of the other posts helped

2005-01-13 Thread Karol Kwiatkowski
SRINIVASAN, KESHAV wrote:
 
 I'm using the latest 5.3-stable build along with the Xfce4 window
 manager. I have a Sound Blaster Audigy card.
 I don't have the line 'device sound' in my kernel, but I have the
 following two lines in my loader.conf file:
 
 sound_load=YES
 
 snd_emu10k1_load=YES
 
 Sound doesn't work in X (tried playing an MP3 using a graphical MP3
 player). It doesn't work in command line either (tried using a console
 MP3 player as well). Any idea how to fix this?

I don't use emu10k1 driver (emu10kx[1] instead), but since no one has
replied yet (probably due to missing details):

First I would check if modules are loaded and if card is recognized.

Try following commands (you should see similar output with emu10k1):

 blackacidevil: # kldstat
 Id Refs AddressSize Name
  [...snip...]
  31 0xc0827000 11c90snd_emu10kx.ko
  [...snip...]

Here I've got only 'snd_emu10kx' listed because 'sound' is compiled in
the kernel. There should be module sound loaded on your system.


 blackacidevil: # dmesg | grep pcm
 pcm0: EMU10Kx PCM Interface on emu10kx0
 pcm0: TriTech TR28602 AC97 Codec

 blackacidevil: # cat /dev/sndstat
 FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
 Installed devices:
 pcm0: EMU10Kx PCM Interface on emu10kx0 (16p/1r/0v channels duplex default)


If all is OK try adjusting volume with /usr/sbin/mixer.

If not try 'pciconf -lv' and search for sound card information.
Also check emu10kx website (below) - scroll down to 'Basic
troubleshooting tips'.

Hope that helps a bit.

Karol

[1] emu10kx can be found:
http://chibis.persons.gfk.ru/audigy/
works great with 5.3-RELEASE-p4 and Audigy (class=0x040100
card=0x00511102 chip=0x00041102 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00)


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Re: anyone using Putty and ssh-agent?

2005-01-13 Thread Brian McCann
I've had similar problems with PuTTY as well...and upgrading PuTTY
fixed the problem, but I'm curious about the whole
PasswordAuthentication thing.  I am testing out 5.3 now for our
production environment, and I haven't touched the sshd config file,
yet I can still login using usernames and passwords.  How is this
possible?  And how would have upgradding PuTTY fixed this?

Thanks,
--Brian

 Similiar problems have been noted on this list before with putty, the
 solution was to set PasswordAuthentication to yes in your sshd_config
 which is disabled by default in 5.3
 
 Nelis
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kernel panic booting 5.3 releng

2005-01-13 Thread Alex Shaw
Hi,

Im experiancing a problem while updating my laptop to 5.3. I currently run 
5.1-RELEASE version from a while back (should have updated a long time ago I 
know), on my Dell C840 Latitude. I followed the instructions on 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

cvsuping from the RELENG_5_3

At the point where I reboot into single user mode it all falls over. The new 
GENERIC kernel fails to boot, stopping after the memory detection with a kernel 
panic page fault 12.

The instruction pointer is 0x8:0xc0621604

Digging about I found the faq here

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/advanced.html#KERNEL-PANIC-TROUBLESHOOTING

After following the instructions and running the following

nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep 06216

I get the following two functions returned

c0621664 t sysctl_bus
c0621688 t sysctl_devices

From this information can anyone give me an idea of whats going wrong ?, or 
how/where I might go about fixing it ?. I have included the result of a boot 
attempt below.

...
real memory = 536748032 (511MB)
avail memory = 515559424 (491MB)
kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address   = 0x696370
fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0621604
stack pointer   = 0x10:0xc0c21d48
frame pointer   = 0x10:0xc0c21d58
code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags= resume, 10PL=0
current process = 0 (swapper)
trap number = 12
panic: page fault
uptime: 1s


I havent gone any further in the update process, as I can still boot my machine 
using the old kernel now saved to /boot/safe. I didnt want to run the install 
world if the new kernel wont boot, fearing it would update and overwrite 
crucial bits of the OS and prevent the laptop from booting the old kernel.

I'm lost really in where to go from here or what the best options are to try 
and get the machine updated correctly. 

Thanks

Alex
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Re: dhcpd for ipv6

2005-01-13 Thread Miguel Mendez
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 10:24:03 +0100
Erik Norgaard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

 Does anyone know of alternatives? I would like to set up a lan with 
 ipv4/6 and an ipv6to4 gateway. How do you manage your ipv6 lan?

I just run rtadvd on the box that handles my ipv6 tunnel (I'm using
he.net for that) and let the other boxen autoconfigure. Since the
addresses are generated using the MAC address I wrote them down and
entered them in the dns config manually.

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Thank you!

2005-01-13 Thread Boris Spirialitious
I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed
to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report
a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they 
make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product 
this linux!
 
Boris


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Download from Windows

2005-01-13 Thread Jeff Spector
I had downloaded the tar for apache on my windows 2000 machine. Is there 
anyway to burn a cd which will be recognized by FREEBSD ? 

Jeff

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Re: Thank you!

2005-01-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed
 to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report
 a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they 
 make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product 
 this linux!

Glad you're happy.
Sorry you can not seem to comprehend a user volunteer supported system.

Bye,

jerry

  
 Boris
 
   
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Re: Thank you!

2005-01-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:57:49AM -0800, Boris Spirialitious wrote:
 I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed
 to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report
 a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they 
 make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product 
 this linux!

It's wonderful that you're so happy now!!

Kris

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Re: Thank you!

2005-01-13 Thread Duo
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Boris Spirialitious wrote:
I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed
to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report
a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they
make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product
this linux!
Boris
NEXT WE USE THIS LEENUX TO KILL MOOSE AND SQUIRREL!
Trolls, they stay so crunchy in milk.
*plonk*
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Re: Thank you!

2005-01-13 Thread martin hudec
Hello,

On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 09:57:49AM -0800 or thereabouts, Boris Spirialitious 
wrote:
 I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed
 to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report
 a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they 
 make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product 
 this linux!

   Nice to hear that you've found for what you have been looking for :).
   Just three things:

   1.) Maybe you could try to fix that problem (if it was really small)
   by yourself. Maybe you could be more regardful to others and their
   time.

   2.) Looks like you gonna shit on linux when something larger will
   emerge, and it will, and there will be noone to help you. Maybe then
   you will revert back to Windows.

   3.) Don't forget to shut the lights and close the door after you
   leave.


Bon voyage,

Martin

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Re: Thank you!

2005-01-13 Thread Jason Stewart
On 13/01/05 09:57 -0800, Boris Spirialitious wrote:
 I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed
 to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report
 a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they 
 make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product 
 this linux!
  
 Boris


You're Welcome!

And thanks for taking the time to earn yourself an entry in my hall of
fame!:

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Re: Download from Windows

2005-01-13 Thread Hexren
JS I had downloaded the tar for apache on my windows 2000 machine. Is there 
JS anyway to burn a cd which will be recognized by FREEBSD ? 

JS Jeff

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I would guess that a standard CD, meaning ISO 9660 Compliant should be
readable under nearly anything. (that is including FreeBSD :)
Burning an ISO CD with Nero should do the trick.

Hexren

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Re: Download from Windows

2005-01-13 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:05:57PM -0500, Jeff Spector wrote:
 I had downloaded the tar for apache on my windows 2000 machine. Is there 
 anyway to burn a cd which will be recognized by FREEBSD ? 

FreeBSD will recognise Joilet filesystems (ie Window's CDROM
filesystems) just fine. Just use your vendor-supplied CD writing
software with Windows.

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Re: Download from Windows

2005-01-13 Thread Chuck Swiger
Jeff Spector wrote:
I had downloaded the tar for apache on my windows 2000 machine. Is there 
anyway to burn a cd which will be recognized by FREEBSD ? 
Sure, popular Windows CD-ROM burning software like Adaptec's EZ/CD-Creator or 
Nero will produce ISO-9660 CD-ROM images which will work with FreeBSD, or 
almost anything else for that matter.

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Re: Thank you!

2005-01-13 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Jan 13 at 09:57, Boris Spirialitious vomited up some 1's and 0's 
thusly:

 I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed
 to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report
 a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they
 make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware.

Odd indeed, if anyone was going to be made fun of it might as well be 
me since I'm such a n00b and incredibly limited in my thinking, yet 
strange to say, I have never noted this to be the case. Yet. (*ducks*)

I assume the hardware you're attempting to run apps on under Linux is of 
absolutely *no* consequence whatsoever. Why ask? It doesn't work, so it 
must be the app. An unsuppported PCMCIA or PCI card? Noo, never happens!
A sound card that doesn't work under Mandrooky15..1? Can't possibly 
be.

 Its like a real product this linux!

I'm ecstatically happy that you have made such a revolutionary discovery 
and also that you are so delighted with it. Long may you continue to 
enjoy the fruits of your research into thoroughly supported OS's.


Troll [burp]

Kind Regards and penguin corpses,
-Colin


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Re: burncd: device busy error when writing .iso

2005-01-13 Thread Jason Morgan
On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 01:42:43PM -0500, Jason Morgan wrote:
 I am attempting to burn an .iso of the 5.3 mini distribution and keep 
 running into the following error:
 
 # burncd -f /dev/acd0 data 5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso fixate
 next writeable LBA 0
 writing from file 5.3-RELEASE-i386-miniinst.iso size 274400 KB
 written this track 640 KB (0%) total 640 KB
 only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes: Device busy
 
 fixating CD, please wait..
 
 I have verified that the drive is working and is accessible.  I have 
 tried different media and keep running into the same result.
 
 # dmesg | grep acd0
 acd0: DVDR PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-108 at ata1-master PIO4
 
 This is a new drive, that I just recently installed.
 
 Oh, I'm running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p11 #7.
 
 Any suggestions?  I've only burned CDs with FreeBSD a few times and 
 never on this system, so I'm kinda a newb.
 
 Thanks for your time.

I finally solved the problem.  I had to include device atapicam in my kernel, 
then used cdrecord instead of burncd, 
using the drive as a scsi device.  Hope this info will help some newb in the 
future.

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Re: Download from Windows

2005-01-13 Thread Jeff Spector
Thanks to all of you who responded. I am newbie to FreeBSD and UNIX so I 
may be asking some silly questions. I will try to burn it again and 
check the parameters. Perhaps I did not mount my cd to the /CDROM folder 
correctly and that is why I can not ls the file. Thanks again

jeff

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To: Jeff Spector [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 13:14:08 -0500
Subject: Re: Download from Windows

 Jeff Spector wrote:
  I had downloaded the tar for apache on my windows 2000 machine. Is
 there 
  anyway to burn a cd which will be recognized by FREEBSD ? 
 
 Sure, popular Windows CD-ROM burning software like Adaptec's
 EZ/CD-Creator or 
 Nero will produce ISO-9660 CD-ROM images which will work with FreeBSD,
 or 
 almost anything else for that matter.
 
 -- 
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How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Richard Morse
Hi!  I have a FreeBSD 5 STABLE computer which is acting as a server.  
Because it doesn't need it, I don't want to install all of X -- my goal 
is that there shouldn't be anything that I can't do over ssh from a 
command-line.

Unfortunately, Oracle doesn't agree with me.
I need to install the Oracle client software on this computer -- it 
won't actually be an Oracle server, but does need to be able to connect 
to various other servers (mostly from PHP and DBD::Oracle).

Apparently, in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X.  But, I 
figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via `ssh 
-X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do the 
display.  However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', when 
I `ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set.

What is the minimum that I need to install to make this work?
Thanks,
Ricky Morse
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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread albi
Richard Morse wrote:
Apparently, in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X.  But, I 
figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via `ssh 
-X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do the 
display.  However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', when I 
`ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set.
did you enable X-forwarding in the sshd-config ? afaik indeed only the 
X-libraries are needed to make remote X over ssh work

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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
simply try to export/set the DISPLAY variable before
installing any additional software.
setenv DISPLAY foo.bar.com:0.0
   
  |
Your actual X-Server -´
If you are using a bourn shell you need to use export
instead of setenv.
Richard Morse schrieb:
Hi!  I have a FreeBSD 5 STABLE computer which is acting as a server.  
Because it doesn't need it, I don't want to install all of X -- my goal 
is that there shouldn't be anything that I can't do over ssh from a 
command-line.

Unfortunately, Oracle doesn't agree with me.
I need to install the Oracle client software on this computer -- it 
won't actually be an Oracle server, but does need to be able to connect 
to various other servers (mostly from PHP and DBD::Oracle).

Apparently, in order to run the installer for 9i, it needs X.  But, I 
figure it shouldn't need all of X, because I intend to connect via `ssh 
-X` from a different computer which is running X to actualy do the 
display.  However, even once I've installed 'x11/xorg-libraries', when I 
`ssh -X` to the box $DISPLAY is not set.

What is the minimum that I need to install to make this work?
Thanks,
Ricky Morse
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Re: FreeBSD 5.3 on Dual Opteron -- experiences?

2005-01-13 Thread Chris Dillon
On Wed, 12 Jan 2005, sp0ng3b0b wrote:
I am getting a quote for a new server.
I would like to get a box with 2x AMD Opterons and an Intel MF 1000 
fiber gigabit card.

Does anyone have any good/bad experiences with Opterons and FreeBSD 
5.3?
FreeBSD 5.3/i386 and 5.3/amd64 both work just fine on my Tyan S2885 
(Thunder K8W) with dual Opteron 244's and 2GB RAM.

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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Doug Poland
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 02:06:20PM -0500, Richard Morse wrote:
 Hi!  I have a FreeBSD 5 STABLE computer which is acting as a server.  
 Because it doesn't need it, I don't want to install all of X -- my goal 
 is that there shouldn't be anything that I can't do over ssh from a 
 command-line.
 
 Unfortunately, Oracle doesn't agree with me.
 
... snip ...
 
 What is the minimum that I need to install to make this work?
 
On my 5.3 servers, I install xorg-libraries so I can run X clients on remote
X servers.  From a remote host use a command similar to:

xserver% ssh -Xf xclient.mydomain.com /path/to/install/directory/OracleInstaller

where: 
  xserver = your X workstation
  xclient = your server w/xorg-libraries installed


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Regards,
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Apache - Bad Output Compression? - bad server response (NSURLErrorDomain:-1011)

2005-01-13 Thread Evolve Networks
Hello! This is my first post here and fairly long but I've tried  
everything I know how to do and haven't been able to track down how to  
fix this error. Any help or suggestions are appreciated!

Just upgraded apache, php, perl and having some strange occassional  
problems. Pages are returned blank here and there.

5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 #0:
Apache/2.0.52 (FreeBSD) PHP/4.3.10 mod_ssl/2.0.52 OpenSSL/0.9.7e  
mod_perl/1.99_18 Perl/v5.8.5

 The only browser that returns an error is Safari, others just return a  
blank page
 bad server response (NSURLErrorDomain:-1011)

Looking around on the web I can't find a definitive solution but it  
appears to be a problem with gzip compression going wrong.

 Has anyone seen this before and can offer a solution? I've rebuilt  
apache, openssl, php, gzip multiple times with no luck.

 httpd-error log shows this
 [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 0190: 93  
5f 2d cd 23 0b ce 73-db 6e 57 06 ee 8b ab 7a ._-.#..s.nWz |
 [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01a0: 85  
e0 77 fa 9e a5 d6 ef-3a 38 93 a9 0f b8 52 29 ..w.:8R) |
 [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01b0: 0b  
f4 a5 98 66 3b 2e 53-8e 75 2d 02 ae 40 2a ce f;[EMAIL PROTECTED] |
 [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01c0: 6e  
07 f8 18 8c 0e 33 91-d7 09 81 3b 51 60 de cd n.3;Q`.. |
 [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01d0: 1a  
2e 02 f5 4b be b0 e2-e4 a4 5e 0f 11 48 0f 27 K.^..H.' |
 [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01e0: 85  
6a 5a 1e 4c cb 8c b2-c0 5b 20 5c b2 4c fc 3a .jZ.L[ \\.L.: |
 [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1478): | 01f0: 32  
33 6e 23n |
 [Tue Jan 11 00:15:42 2005] [debug] ssl_engine_io.c(1484):  
+--- 
--+
 Fatal error 'Unable to read from thread kernel pipe' at line 1100 in  
file /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_kern.c (errno = 0)
 [Tue Jan 11 00:15:46 2005] [notice] child pid 1347 exit signal Abort  
trap (6)

 /var/log/messages shows
 Jan 11 00:15:46 e kernel: pid 1347 (httpd), uid 80: exited on signal 6
Thanks!
Marc Hauge
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Re: Thank you!

2005-01-13 Thread Jacob S
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:57:49 -0800 (PST)
Boris Spirialitious [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed
 to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I
 report a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd
 do they make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a
 real product this linux!
  
 Boris

Congratulations! For the first time in 6 years you have made me ashamed
of the fact that I learned Linux before I learned FreeBSD. I'm glad the
Linux lists I frequent aren't like that.

To the rest of the list members... don't hold him against the rest of
us Linux users. :-) 

Jacob
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problem with mozilla/foxfire

2005-01-13 Thread William Cox
Every time I click on MF, the screen goes black.  Then white.  Next, the 
desktop page icons appear without color. Then, the screen goes white.  
Next, the icons reappear and gradually fill in.  Then, you can access 
MF.  Any suggestions how to solve this  problem which did not exist when 
I initially downloaded MF?

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Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3?

2005-01-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Andrea Venturoli writes:

AV Not exactly the same algorithm and on different set of data.

But similar machine instructions, perhaps?

AV Yes.

Just the contention for the FPU alone might have had the effect of
single-threading the workload.  That plus the SMP overhead might give
you a zero or negative gain with HT.

AV In the past.
AV Nowadays they have some sort of protection.

Unfortunately, AMD lost my business when the first processor nearly
burst into flames.  I try not to make the same mistake twice.  And I've
seen examples of AMD processors that _have_ burst into flames, so why
take a chance?

For me the weakest parts of any machine are the fans and the disk
drives, because they have to move.

-- 
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Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3?

2005-01-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Olivier Nicole writes:

ON It was dead for good, well it is still dead as a matter of fact :)

The AMD processor on my XP system overheated and stalled a few times, before
I realized that the (brand-new) fan had failed.  It still runs okay now,
though, with a reliable fan.

The other AMD processor, on my server, dramatically overheated for 8-12
hours at a time (process stuck in a loop--I never found out why).  It
damaged something that failed intermittently at first (segment
violations in the kernel and in daemons that should never have such
problems), then got worse and worse over a few days, until it failed
completely.

ON So did I, so did I, but one sees strange things when buying a machine
ON from a cheap assembly shop (I was not the first buyer, I just got the
ON machine when it became unusable and then I was curious so I opened it,
ON what the first owner never did).

I decided to build my own.  I was tired of not knowing what was inside
the machine, and finding out the hard and expensive way that many
corners had been cut.  I also got tired of having stacks and stacks of
unused stereo mini-speakers, ultra-cheap keyboards, and equally cheap
mice.  Not to mention paying for Windows and a boatload of absolutely
useless garbage software that I was just going to wipe away immediately
in favor of FreeBSD (and I configure my FreeBSD systems to run FreeBSD
exclusively--none of this dual-boot stuff).  It gives me strange
pleasure to think that the current server has never gotten anywhere near
Windows.  FreeBSD was the first OS to deflower the virgin disk drives.

-- 
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Memory Question

2005-01-13 Thread Colin J. Raven
I'm wondering seriously about this top output:

(2.6 GhZ Celeron 1GB RAM)

Mem: 52M Active, 316M Inact, 134M Wired, 111M Buf, 494M Free
Swap: 2023M Total, 2023M Free

This does add up to the 1GB of memory that my 5.3-RELEASE box has, 
that's not my question.
I always understood in FreeBSD that Free Memory is wasted memory

I compared this to the 5.3-RELEASE box of a colleague.

AMD Athlon (1800-something-or-other) also 1GB RAM

Mem: 467M Active, 224M Inact, 201M Wired, 33M Cache, 111M Buf, 71M Free
Swap: 4096M Total, 1672K Used, 4094M Free

Other than the fact that swap doesn't add up (or doesn't seem to) the 
box of my colleague seems to have a more sensible (classic) amount of 
free memory.

Is there something I can do in order to optimize - which in this case 
paradoxically would seem to mean reduce the amount of free memory?

Regards  TIA,
-Colin
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Re: Memory Question

2005-01-13 Thread Bryan Fullerton
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 21:01:19 +0100, Colin J. Raven
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 Is there something I can do in order to optimize - which in this case
 paradoxically would seem to mean reduce the amount of free memory?

Run more processes that do interesting things. Your top output looks
fairly normal for a machine that's freshly rebooted and/or not
terribly busy.

Bryan
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Re: Memory Question

2005-01-13 Thread Gregor Mosheh
 Is there something I can do in order to optimize -
 which in this case 
 paradoxically would seem to mean reduce the amount
 of free memory?

The simple answer is: Use it! Exactly how depends on
what you're running. Basically, check the docs for all
the stuff your server is running and see what you can
do to throw more memory at it. A lot of software has
docs about performance tuning, and its memory usage
(and performance) can usually be cranked up.

If you're using a database server, check the DB's
config file (postgresql.conf or my.cnf) and allocate a
bunch of memory to buffers. If you're running Apache,
you can increase the spare servers; if your Apache
runs Perl CGI programs, you could consider using
mod_perl.




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Re: Memory Question

2005-01-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Colin J. Raven writes:

CJR I always understood in FreeBSD that Free Memory is wasted memory

In any operating system, free memory is wasted memory.  But if you
suddenly need more memory and you don't have it, system performance will
slide right down into the abyss, no matter which OS you are using ...
and very often it's cost-effective to waste some extra memory to
handle peak loads. Memory's cheap, anyway.

CJR I compared this to the 5.3-RELEASE box of a colleague.
CJR
CJR AMD Athlon (1800-something-or-other) also 1GB RAM
CJR
CJR Mem: 467M Active, 224M Inact, 201M Wired, 33M Cache, 111M Buf, 71M Free
CJR Swap: 4096M Total, 1672K Used, 4094M Free
CJR
CJR Other than the fact that swap doesn't add up (or doesn't seem to) the
CJR box of my colleague seems to have a more sensible (classic) amount of
CJR free memory.

No, he doesn't have enough memory.  A good operating system (which of
course would include FreeBSD) can make the best of the memory it has
under load, by judicious use of the swap file(s), but even the best
swapping algorithms are no match for more RAM.

You can never have too much memory.

CJR Is there something I can do in order to optimize - which in this
CJR case paradoxically would seem to mean reduce the amount of free
CJR memory?

General rules: Reducing memory is never an optimization.  Increasing
memory never reduces performance.

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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Richard Morse
On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:34 PM, Doug Poland wrote:
On my 5.3 servers, I install xorg-libraries so I can run X clients on 
remote
X servers.  From a remote host use a command similar to:

xserver% ssh -Xf xclient.mydomain.com 
/path/to/install/directory/OracleInstaller
Hi!  When I do this, runInstaller complains that $DISPLAY is not 
set... (but see my other responses for more info...)

Thanks,
Ricky
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Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3?

2005-01-13 Thread Andrea Venturoli
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Andrea Venturoli writes:
AV Not exactly the same algorithm and on different set of data.
But similar machine instructions, perhaps?
Yes, both numerical computations.
Basically one thread would model geometry and the other would mesh it.
Frequent stall would arise, as the two process would only by chance 
require the same time, even so the two CPUs were always at full load 
(!?!?!?). I also tried different combinations, e.g. three modelling 
threads and one mesher with, again, equal timings.

BTW, it's worth to mention, I *have* to use a compiler that knows 
nothing about SSE or the like, so all is done with FPU instructions as 
in the old 387s...



Just the contention for the FPU alone might have had the effect of
single-threading the workload.
I've come to the same conclusion. Still I can't put this together with 
100% load on both processors. If, as someone said, there is only one 
FPU, *how* are these figures coming out??? I would have expected 
something like 50%-50% (instead of 100%-0% of the single threaded 
version). *If* there is only one FPU, I'd expect both virtual processors 
being frequently idle waiting for each other.


That plus the SMP overhead might give
you a zero or negative gain with HT.
I tried a multithreaded version on a UP machine (nonsense, I know): the 
locking overhead is there, but very minimal: a process which takes 16 
minutes will require, maybe, 3 seconds more.

 bye
av.
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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Richard Morse
On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:15 PM, Daniel S. Haischt wrote:
simply try to export/set the DISPLAY variable before
installing any additional software.
setenv DISPLAY foo.bar.com:0.0

   |
Your actual X-Server -´
Hi!  I tried this (I had to use xhost first on my local machine), and 
it sort of works.  I get a lot of errors about fonts, and the Oracle 
installer keeps throwing various java exceptions and not doing 
anything, but I don't know if that's because of problems with the 
installer or the X connection.  The font errors I get are:

	Font specified in font.properties not found 
[--symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific]

if you have any idea what I'm missing that would solve this...
Thanks muchly,
Ricky
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Re: Memory Question

2005-01-13 Thread Colin J. Raven
The essence of the original question was:

 Is there something I can do in order to optimize -
 which in this case
 paradoxically would seem to mean reduce the amount
 of free memory?

On Jan 13 at 15:12, Bryan Fullerton suggested:

 Run more processes that do interesting things. Your top output looks
 fairly normal for a machine that's freshly rebooted and/or not
 terribly busy.


On Jan 13 at 12:28, Gregor Mosheh also said in a similar vein:

 The simple answer is: Use it! Exactly how depends on
 what you're running. Basically, check the docs for all
 the stuff your server is running and see what you can
 do to throw more memory at it. A lot of software has
 docs about performance tuning, and its memory usage
 (and performance) can usually be cranked up.

 If you're using a database server, check the DB's
 config file (postgresql.conf or my.cnf) and allocate a
 bunch of memory to buffers. If you're running Apache,
 you can increase the spare servers; if your Apache
 runs Perl CGI programs, you could consider using
 mod_perl.

OK, this makes sense! All the while I was attempting to be as 
economical as seemed possible under the circumstances...or as 
economical as various config settings seemed to allow. I guess this goes 
back to the era I only recently emerged from, where any machine I owned 
had considerably less resources to spare. Or more accurately, *no* 
resources to spare. Odd feeling knowing there's a ton of horsepower 
available that's not (yet) being utilized.

Gentlemen, thank you for the feedback and guidance. My appreciation for 
this OS and this group grows exponentially - daily.

Boris and fellow trolls, please take note.


Regards,
-Colin
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cross-building ports

2005-01-13 Thread Paul Allen
Is there a command-line option to cause ports to be built
for a different architecture than that of the native system?

-Paul
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Re: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Doug Poland
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 03:32:10PM -0500, Richard Morse wrote:
 On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:34 PM, Doug Poland wrote:
 
 On my 5.3 servers, I install xorg-libraries so I can run X clients on
 remote X servers.? From a remote host use a command similar to:
 
 xserver% ssh -Xf xclient.mydomain.com 
 /path/to/install/directory/OracleInstaller
 
 Hi!  When I do this, runInstaller complains that $DISPLAY is not
 set... (but see my other responses for more info...)
 
You have xorg-libraries installed?
X11Forwarding yes in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config?  
If you changed sshd_config did you restart sshd?

-- 
Regards,
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Re: Hyperthreading hurts 5.3?

2005-01-13 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Andrea Venturoli writes:

AV I've come to the same conclusion. Still I can't put this together with
AV 100% load on both processors. If, as someone said, there is only one
AV FPU, *how* are these figures coming out???

The operating system tracks a dispatch of a processor into a process
thread.  After that, it has no idea whether the processor is actually
doing anything or not--from the OS' standpoint, the processor is
running.  So if one thread in one logical processor is actually
executing instructions, and the other is stalled while waiting for a
shared resource in the processor, the OS will still consider both
threads to be running and will charge all of the elapsed time as
processor time ... giving you a figure of 100% busy.

AV I would have expected something like 50%-50% (instead of 100%-0% of
AV the single threaded version). *If* there is only one FPU, I'd expect
AV both virtual processors being frequently idle waiting for each
AV other.

Yes ... but the OS can't see that, and so OS monitoring tools can't
report it.

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Re: cross-building ports

2005-01-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 12:47:24PM -0800, Paul Allen wrote:
 Is there a command-line option to cause ports to be built
 for a different architecture than that of the native system?

This is not supported.

Kris

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Out of the frying pan...

2005-01-13 Thread John
I just keep painting myself into corners, and I'm hoping that people
can point out some (presumably dumb) things that I am doing, and
recommend a course of action that will get me back to where I want
to be.

I have a Compaq Armada M700 on which I had installed FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE
(as of February, 2004) and life was pretty good.  There were a few
annoyance, but it was a useful working environment.  I didn't have
Java running, I probably needed to find a better browser than Konqeror,
and the sound, touch-pad, and suspend/resume functions didn't work,
so there were things I would have liked to have improved.

All that changed when I tried to install Win98SE in the lower
partition I had reserved for that purpose.  It totally trashed my
/ (with /usr) filesystem, though leaving /home (and /var) alone.
[ I bit the bullet and bought Windows XP Home, which installed
fine - but that's for my kids - I want my FreeBSD! ]

This seemed like a good time to move forward.  I had a set of 5.2.1
CD's, so I installed them.

Things didn't work very well.  Part of it was ACPI problems I didn't
correctly recognize, but my biggest problem was that I couldn't get
OpenOffice to install, because it had moved to Xorg from XFree86,
along with FreeBSD 5.3.

I had a slower, desktop machine with a plenty of disk space, so
I loaded up the source distribution from 5.2.1, cvsup'ed to -STABLE,
did a buildworld, buildkernel, mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj via
NFS, and upgraded the laptop to 5.3.  Since then, I've been playing
a challenging game of update the package to try to get all the
requisite packages for Xorg and kde in place (not to mention OpenOffice,
and I'm not even there yet).

Have you already guessed my problem?  My / and /usr single filesystem,
which is 1.5Gb in size, that had been about 80% full with XFree86,
kde, fvwm, and OpenOffice is now 101% full and I haven't even gotten
all of kde installed (and all the dependent packages), let alone
OpenOffice.

I see my options as this:
1) Try to figure out the dependency trees for kde, install kde-lite
   instead, and rip out the packages I don't need (theoretically
   possible - but feasible?)
2) Back up /home, reinstall a minimum 5.2.1 system, do the installworld
   and installkernel again, and then do the install of the kde (or
   kde-lite) then restore /home (but how much larger do I need to
   make / and /usr?)
3) Buy or build a 5.3 installation set, and redo the installation,
   using only the distributions I need, and hope it fits.

Other suggestions?  Anything obvious I'm missing?  You folks have been
extrememly helpful so far, so I'm hoping there's a good solution I'm
just missing!
-- 

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Re: automake, autoconf compiling

2005-01-13 Thread Tom Huppi

Hi Keith,

I've recently been struggling with similar issues, and would be
interested to know what others might have found effective.

I have a number of different versions of the auto-tools on my
machine, almost certainly as a result of installing various ports.
It is worth note that one can glean some info on how the FreeBSD
ports infrastructure handles this problem by looking at
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.autotools.mk.  For my part, I found the details
to be too 'ugly' to attempt to emulate in my work, but they are
interesting all-the-same.  To date I have not resorted to
installing any custom, system-wide builds of any of these tools
for fear of harming my ability to use the ports infrastructure and
out of a desire to reduce future maintenance considerations.

For the most part, I have reasonable luck simply calling the
desired tool by it's installed name.  (i.e., 'autoconf259' instead
of 'autoconf'.)  Most of these tools know where to obtain their
helper files due to the PREFIX they were assigned when they
themselves were 'built'.

I have run into situations where aclocal got confused by multiple
macro definitions (for some libtool macros in my case.)  That was
a bit hard to debug, and it may be rare as my research didn't turn
up too many references.

I think it pertinent to expand this question to freebsd-questions
to include a wider audience.  Certainly these are FreeBSD specific
considerations, and probably not extremely arcane ones.

Thanks,

 - Tom


On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Keith Bottner wrote:

 First let me say that I am definitely a newbie to FreeBSD but not to Linux
 or Windows.

 I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble
 identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like.
 Specifically I am trying to get the Apache log4cxx source to compile and of
 course I am running into problems with automake, aclocal, autoheader,
 autoconf and libtoolize not being in the path. I did chase them down in the
 /usr/local/libexec/automake18 and similar directories but placing them in
 the path still generates errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are
 missing at various stages).

 I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting up
 FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across disparate
 projects?

 I have never had this problem on Linux as they have always been properly
 setup on install and I want to get FreeBSD going and do it the way that is
 accepted as the standard so that later generalizing my project with autoconf
 will be standardized as well.

 I appreciate any feedback and realize this is a rather broad question, but
 hey I said I was new to FreeBSD.

 Keith

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Re: cross-building ports

2005-01-13 Thread Jonathan Dama
Thanks for clarifying that I wasn't just missing the
obvious.  I suppose that's not surprising given all the
complicated things some builds do to configure themselves
based on testing the environment.

What about the simple case of building ia32 on an amd64
host?  (Assuming WITH_LIB32 has been set in make.conf)

I have the impression that amd64 has been setup with an 
eye toward running a pure amd64 setup, but one of the
principle benefits of amd64 is it's support for i386
binaries and libraries...

It would be nice (and probably easier on many ports) if the
system was geared to have more ia32 centric userland--which
I might add is the tradition for mang 64-bit OSs.  Having my
64-bit ls is great and all, but really unnecessary +
wasteful.

Are these sorts of changes in the pipeline or?

-Paul

From Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED], Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:08:44PM -0800:
 On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 12:47:24PM -0800, Paul Allen wrote:
  Is there a command-line option to cause ports to be built
  for a different architecture than that of the native system?
 
 This is not supported.
 
 Kris


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Multihomed ISC-DHCPD

2005-01-13 Thread Kris Maglione
First off, my problem is that I can't get dhcpd to reply to a request on 
a new subnet/interface.

I have an isc-dhcpd server running on my gateway box. I just added a new 
nic to connect a wifi ap. I added this subnet declaration:
subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
 range 192.168.1.10 192.168.1.254;
 option routers 192.168.1.1;
 option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;
 option domain-name wifi;
}

to my dhcpd.conf.
I reran dhcpd as: dhcpd -q -f rl0 fxp0
fxp0, the new interface is configured as:
inet 192.168.1.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
I added a firewall rule to allow all traffic via the interface and to 
log it. When I boot the AP, I get this in my log:
Jan 13 15:53:51 fw /kernel: ipfw: 1910 Accept UDP 0.0.0.0:68 
255.255.255.255:67
in via fxp0
Jan 13 15:53:51 fw /kernel: ipfw: 1910 Accept ICMP:8.0 192.168.1.1 
192.168.1.254
out via fxp0
Jan 13 15:53:55 fw /kernel: ipfw: 1910 Accept UDP 0.0.0.0:68 
255.255.255.255:67
in via fxp0
Jan 13 15:54:18 fw last message repeated 2 times

My netstat -r contains:
192.168.1  link#3 UC  10   fxp0
192.168.1.100:a0:c9:1a:a6:03  UHLW0  192lo0
although it sometimes contains a line for 192.168.1.254 via link#3
Any ideas?


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Re: problem with mozilla/foxfire

2005-01-13 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Jan 13, 2005, at 2:50 PM, William Cox wrote:
Any suggestions how to solve this  problem which did not exist when I 
initially downloaded MF?
Just a guess, but one possibility is a corrupted file which is used by 
the app, such as a preferences file.  You might try renaming them and 
starting it again.

Does it work as expected if you login as another user?
TjL
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Re: cross-building ports

2005-01-13 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 01:27:17PM -0800, Jonathan Dama wrote:
 Thanks for clarifying that I wasn't just missing the
 obvious.  I suppose that's not surprising given all the
 complicated things some builds do to configure themselves
 based on testing the environment.
 
 What about the simple case of building ia32 on an amd64
 host?  (Assuming WITH_LIB32 has been set in make.conf)
 
 I have the impression that amd64 has been setup with an 
 eye toward running a pure amd64 setup, but one of the
 principle benefits of amd64 is it's support for i386
 binaries and libraries...
 
 It would be nice (and probably easier on many ports) if the
 system was geared to have more ia32 centric userland--which
 I might add is the tradition for mang 64-bit OSs.  Having my
 64-bit ls is great and all, but really unnecessary +
 wasteful.
 
 Are these sorts of changes in the pipeline or?

I don't believe anyone is working on it, but you can always just use
precompiled packages.

Kris


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kernel panic booting 5.3 releng

2005-01-13 Thread Alex Shaw
Hi,

Im experiancing a problem while updating my laptop to 5.3. I currently run a 
5.1-RELEASE version from a while back (should have updated a long time ago I 
know), on my Dell C840 Latitude. I followed the instructions on 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

cvsuping from RELENG_5_3

At the point where I reboot into single user mode it all falls over. The new 
GENERIC kernel fails to boot, stopping after the memory detection with a kernel 
panic page fault 12.

The instruction pointer is 0x8:0xc0621604

Digging about I found the faq here

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/advanced.html#KERNEL-PANIC-TROUBLESHOOTING

After following the instructions and running the following

nm -n /boot/kernel/kernel | grep 06216

I get the following two functions returned

c0621664 t sysctl_bus
c0621688 t sysctl_devices

From this information can anyone give me an idea of whats going wrong ?, or 
how/where I might go about fixing it ?. I have included the result of a boot 
attempt below.

...
real memory = 536748032 (511MB)
avail memory = 515559424 (491MB)
kernel trap 12 with interrupts disabled

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault virtual address   = 0x696370
fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc0621604
stack pointer   = 0x10:0xc0c21d48
frame pointer   = 0x10:0xc0c21d58
code segment= base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b
= DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1
processor eflags= resume, 10PL=0
current process = 0 (swapper)
trap number = 12
panic: page fault
uptime: 1s


I havent gone any further in the update process, as I can still boot my machine 
using the old kernel now saved to /boot/safe. I didnt want to run the install 
world if the new kernel wont boot, fearing it would update and overwrite 
crucial bits of the OS preventing the laptop from booting the old kernel.

I'm lost really in where to go from here or what the best options are to try 
and get the machine updated correctly. 

Thanks

Alex
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Re: automake, autoconf compiling

2005-01-13 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
PLEASE DON'T TOP-POST.  THANK YOU :-)

On 2005-01-13 16:24, Tom Huppi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Keith Bottner wrote:
 I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble
 identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like.
 [...] I did chase them down in the /usr/local/libexec/automake18 and
 similar directories but placing them in the path still generates
 errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are missing at various
 stages).

 I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting
 up FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across
 disparate projects?

 I've recently been struggling with similar issues, and would be
 interested to know what others might have found effective.

I use autoconf/automake and libtool daily at work[1].

The programs I write have to run on at least 3 different operating
systems (FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris) without the need for constant
manual tweaking of the source.

The best way to do that is to use the same version of autotools on all
those platforms.  So, I install the latest possible versions of these
tools with --prefix=/opt/autotools on all the machines I have to use,
and stop worrying about all the details.

When I have to use the tools, I add /opt/autotools/bin at the beginning
of my PATH.  When I don't need them, I remove /opt/autotools/bin from my
path.

This has worked wonders so far.

- Giorgos



[1] The operative keyword here is at work.  I don't use autoconf and
friends for programs I write on my own.  I prefer bsd.*.mk for that.
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Re: Out of the frying pan...

2005-01-13 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:24 pm, John wrote:
 I just keep painting myself into corners, and I'm hoping that people
 can point out some (presumably dumb) things that I am doing, and
 recommend a course of action that will get me back to where I want
 to be.

 I have a Compaq Armada M700 on which I had installed FreeBSD
 4.9-STABLE (as of February, 2004) and life was pretty good.  There
 were a few annoyance, but it was a useful working environment.  I
 didn't have Java running, I probably needed to find a better browser
 than Konqeror, and the sound, touch-pad, and suspend/resume functions
 didn't work, so there were things I would have liked to have
 improved.

 All that changed when I tried to install Win98SE in the lower
 partition I had reserved for that purpose.  It totally trashed my
 / (with /usr) filesystem, though leaving /home (and /var) alone.
 [ I bit the bullet and bought Windows XP Home, which installed
 fine - but that's for my kids - I want my FreeBSD! ]

 This seemed like a good time to move forward.  I had a set of 5.2.1
 CD's, so I installed them.

 Things didn't work very well.  Part of it was ACPI problems I didn't
 correctly recognize, but my biggest problem was that I couldn't get
 OpenOffice to install, because it had moved to Xorg from XFree86,
 along with FreeBSD 5.3.

 I had a slower, desktop machine with a plenty of disk space, so
 I loaded up the source distribution from 5.2.1, cvsup'ed to -STABLE,
 did a buildworld, buildkernel, mounted /usr/src and /usr/obj via
 NFS, and upgraded the laptop to 5.3.  Since then, I've been playing
 a challenging game of update the package to try to get all the
 requisite packages for Xorg and kde in place (not to mention
 OpenOffice, and I'm not even there yet).

 Have you already guessed my problem?  My / and /usr single
 filesystem, which is 1.5Gb in size, that had been about 80% full with
 XFree86, kde, fvwm, and OpenOffice is now 101% full and I haven't
 even gotten all of kde installed (and all the dependent packages),
 let alone OpenOffice.

 I see my options as this:
 1) Try to figure out the dependency trees for kde, install kde-lite
instead, and rip out the packages I don't need (theoretically
possible - but feasible?)
 2) Back up /home, reinstall a minimum 5.2.1 system, do the
 installworld and installkernel again, and then do the install of the
 kde (or kde-lite) then restore /home (but how much larger do I need
 to make / and /usr?)
 3) Buy or build a 5.3 installation set, and redo the installation,
using only the distributions I need, and hope it fits.

 Other suggestions?  Anything obvious I'm missing?  You folks have
 been extrememly helpful so far, so I'm hoping there's a good solution
 I'm just missing!

1. Upgrade the hard drive.

2. If you're going to install Windows, install it before you install 
FreeBSD.

3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather than 
5.2.1.

4. Building OpenOffice requires massive resources.  Use the binary 
packages.

5. When you install from ports, make sure you make install clean to 
remove working files when they're no longer needed.

6. Use portupgrade (in the ports) to upgrade applications; but exclude 
OpenOffice.  Not only can portupgrade take care of dependencies, but it 
has options to look for binary packages online before opting to compile 
from source.

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould







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Re: Multihomed ISC-DHCPD

2005-01-13 Thread Kris Maglione
I get this from tcpdump when I boot the AP:
17:07:14.250764 0.0.0.0.bootpc  255.255.255.255.bootps:  xid:0xa2dc15d6 
[|bootp] (DF)
17:07:14.251781 arp who-has 192.168.1.254 tell 192.168.1.1
17:07:15.000903 192.168.1.1.bootps  192.168.1.254.bootpc: 
xid:0xa2dc15d6 Y:192.168.1.254 S:192.168.1.1 file [|bootp] [tos 0x10]
17:07:18.251051 0.0.0.0.bootpc  255.255.255.255.bootps: xid:0xa2dc15d6 
secs:4 [|bootp] (DF)
17:07:18.251961 192.168.1.1.bootps  192.168.1.254.bootpc: 
xid:0xa2dc15d6 secs:4 Y:192.168.1.254 S:192.168.1.1 [|bootp] [tos 0x10]
17:07:25.251540 0.0.0.0.bootpc  255.255.255.255.bootps: xid:0xa2dc15d6 
secs:11 [|bootp] (DF)
17:07:25.252300 192.168.1.1.bootps  192.168.1.254.bootpc: 
xid:0xa2dc15d6 secs:11 Y:192.168.1.254 S:192.168.1.1 [|bootp] [tos 0x10]
17:07:33.252146 arp who-has 192.168.0.225 tell 192.168.0.225 -- ap uses 
default address of 192.168.0.255.
17:07:33.259898 arp who-has firewall.domain tell 192.168.0.225
17:07:41.252748 0.0.0.0.bootpc  255.255.255.255.bootps: xid:0xa2dc15d6 
secs:27 [|bootp] (DF)
17:07:41.253484 192.168.1.1.bootps  192.168.1.254.bootpc: 
xid:0xa2dc15d6 secs:27 Y:192.168.1.254 S:192.168.1.1 [|bootp] [tos 0x10]




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Re: Out of the frying pan...

2005-01-13 Thread John
On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 04:08:53PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:24 pm, John wrote:
  I just keep painting myself into corners, and I'm hoping that people
  can point out some (presumably dumb) things that I am doing, and
  recommend a course of action that will get me back to where I want
  to be.

[ deleted for brevity ]

  I see my options as this:
  1) Try to figure out the dependency trees for kde, install kde-lite
 instead, and rip out the packages I don't need (theoretically
 possible - but feasible?)
  2) Back up /home, reinstall a minimum 5.2.1 system, do the
  installworld and installkernel again, and then do the install of the
  kde (or kde-lite) then restore /home (but how much larger do I need
  to make / and /usr?)
  3) Buy or build a 5.3 installation set, and redo the installation,
 using only the distributions I need, and hope it fits.
 
  Other suggestions?  Anything obvious I'm missing?  You folks have
  been extrememly helpful so far, so I'm hoping there's a good solution
  I'm just missing!
 
 1. Upgrade the hard drive.

Yeah - thinking about that - but should I really need SEVERAL Gb to
support the environment I want?  Maybe...

 2. If you're going to install Windows, install it before you install 
 FreeBSD.

Yup - learned THAT the hard way!  We do need to update the handbook
and other documentation in this regard - the current docs give the
impression that the only problem is that the boot manager gets
lost.  I was, therefore, entirely ready for that, and had everything
at hand to put it back - only to discover after putting the boot
manager back that the problem was far, far worse than that.  Of
course, that may be due to the ancient Windows I was installing.

 3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather than 
 5.2.1.

Sigh.  OK.  I'll have to see if I can build that from what I have
already...  Pointers to a way to build a distribution set for
5.3-STABLE from what I have built?

 4. Building OpenOffice requires massive resources.  Use the binary 
 packages.

Oh, definitely!  That is what I intend to do.

Since I am using OpenOffice, should I use kde-lite instead of the
full kde installation?

 5. When you install from ports, make sure you make install clean to 
 remove working files when they're no longer needed.

OK, but that system, where I have the sources and all, is not hurting
for space.

 6. Use portupgrade (in the ports) to upgrade applications; but exclude 
 OpenOffice.  Not only can portupgrade take care of dependencies, but it 
 has options to look for binary packages online before opting to compile 
 from source.

Ah hah!  This is a trick I didn't know.  I'll learn that.

Thanks!

 Best of luck,
 
 Andrew Gould

Thank you, Andrew.  I'd still like to know why the disk footprint
for what I want seems to have grown to dramatically.  My hunch is
that when I did the installworld I got a bunch of distributions
(to use the install terminology) that I didn't intend, but that's
just speculation on my part.
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RE: How to use X without installing X?

2005-01-13 Thread Pietralla, Siegfried P
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Richard Morse
 Sent: Friday, 14 January 2005 07:37
 To: Daniel S. Haischt
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: How to use X without installing X?
 
 
 On 13 Jan 2005, at 2:15 PM, Daniel S. Haischt wrote:
 
  simply try to export/set the DISPLAY variable before
  installing any additional software.
 
  setenv DISPLAY foo.bar.com:0.0
  
 |
  Your actual X-Server -´
 
 Hi!  I tried this (I had to use xhost first on my local machine), and 
 it sort of works.  I get a lot of errors about fonts, and the Oracle 
 installer keeps throwing various java exceptions and not doing 
 anything, but I don't know if that's because of problems with the 
 installer or the X connection.  The font errors I get are:
 
   Font specified in font.properties not found 
 [--symbol-medium-r-normal--*-%d-*-*-p-*-adobe-fontspecific]
 
 if you have any idea what I'm missing that would solve this...
 
 Thanks muchly,
 Ricky


hi ricky,

this is the way to go - you definitely don't need anything X related on the
server - I've just done this recently ( albeit with hpux and reflection X ).
the install notes should tell you what version of java you need and that
should help you fix up those errors. the font thing I can't help you with -
perhaps you just need to install a font with those properties? or make sure
all your fonts are on the right path / list / whatever ?

also, you could just use another X server - do you have a different working
unix workstation ( sgi, sun, hp, etc )? or even a p.c. running reflection X
or exceed. but note that I can't get cygwin to work for me - I only get
about a quarter of the initial installer screen to show up so I have to kill
it - although it's still worth a quick try if you have a windows box.

hth,
siegfried.
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2005-01-13 Thread Frederic R.

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Re: login.conf problems

2005-01-13 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Static [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Im trying to add a class that will limit processes and session limits, I 
 added this
 ircd:\
:tc=default:\
:copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\
:welcome=/etc/motd:\
:setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K:\
:path=~/bin /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin:\
:manpath=/usr/share/man /usr/local/man:\
:nologin=/var/run/nologin:\
:ftp-chroot:\
:cputime=1h30m:\
:datasize=100M:\
:vmemoryuse=100M:\
:stacksize=2M:\
:memorylocked=4M:\
:memoryuse=8M:\
:filesize=100M:\
:coredumpsize=8M:\
:openfiles=24:\
:maxproc=32:\
:priority=0:\
:requirehome:\
:idletime=30m:\
:sessionlimit=2:\
:umask=002:\
:ignoretime@:\
 Then I proceed to run cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf then I make a user with the 
 login class of ircd, but the session limits dont seem to work, was curious if 
 anyone out there knew how to fix that

Which ones don't work?  [Not all of them are implemented.]

How did you add the new user?  Did the password database get rebuilt?

Do the limits appear to be changed in the output of limits(1)?
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Re: login.conf problems

2005-01-13 Thread Chris
I think the problem here is login.conf cannot do things like limit
cpu% it just kills the process when it reaches the cpu time used, also
on limiting processes say if you want to limit a shell user to run 3
bg processes you cant limit to 3 processes in login.conf because it
will break fg processes for things like running make.  In this
scenarion I believe you need some custom type of script to do what you
are looking for.

Chris


On 13 Jan 2005 17:33:22 -0500, Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Static [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Im trying to add a class that will limit processes and session limits, I 
  added this
  ircd:\
 :tc=default:\
 :copyright=/etc/COPYRIGHT:\
 :welcome=/etc/motd:\
 :setenv=MAIL=/var/mail/$,BLOCKSIZE=K:\
 :path=~/bin /bin /usr/bin /usr/local/bin:\
 :manpath=/usr/share/man /usr/local/man:\
 :nologin=/var/run/nologin:\
 :ftp-chroot:\
 :cputime=1h30m:\
 :datasize=100M:\
 :vmemoryuse=100M:\
 :stacksize=2M:\
 :memorylocked=4M:\
 :memoryuse=8M:\
 :filesize=100M:\
 :coredumpsize=8M:\
 :openfiles=24:\
 :maxproc=32:\
 :priority=0:\
 :requirehome:\
 :idletime=30m:\
 :sessionlimit=2:\
 :umask=002:\
 :ignoretime@:\
  Then I proceed to run cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf then I make a user with 
  the login class of ircd, but the session limits dont seem to work, was 
  curious if anyone out there knew how to fix that
 
 Which ones don't work?  [Not all of them are implemented.]
 
 How did you add the new user?  Did the password database get rebuilt?
 
 Do the limits appear to be changed in the output of limits(1)?
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RE: automake, autoconf compiling

2005-01-13 Thread Keith Bottner
All of the information both of your provided is helpful. I will have to
investigate further. Some of the information that Tom specified helped me to
track down the problem. Basically I have multiple versions of the tools
installed and there are two different directories with aclocal m4 files. If
I explicitly change the shell script to also include the other directory
then everything seems to continue on until compile time when there is a
header that cannot be found. It appears this header alloca.h is located in
/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/sort/alloca.h. I was just wondering if Giorgos method
would also alleviate these problems or if this is just par for the course
when using projects that people have not moved into the ports collection?

Keith 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giorgos Keramidas
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 3:48 PM
To: Tom Huppi
Cc: Keith Bottner; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Org
Subject: Re: automake, autoconf compiling

PLEASE DON'T TOP-POST.  THANK YOU :-)

On 2005-01-13 16:24, Tom Huppi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Keith Bottner wrote:
 I am trying to get a development system setup and am having trouble 
 identifying how FreeBSD handles automake, autoconf and the like.
 [...] I did chase them down in the /usr/local/libexec/automake18 and 
 similar directories but placing them in the path still generates 
 errors (i.e. there continues to be things that are missing at various 
 stages).

 I guess my general question is: What is the standard way for setting 
 up FreeBSD to use these (GNU tools) with the least trouble across 
 disparate projects?

 I've recently been struggling with similar issues, and would be 
 interested to know what others might have found effective.

I use autoconf/automake and libtool daily at work[1].

The programs I write have to run on at least 3 different operating systems
(FreeBSD, Linux and Solaris) without the need for constant manual tweaking
of the source.

The best way to do that is to use the same version of autotools on all those
platforms.  So, I install the latest possible versions of these tools with
--prefix=/opt/autotools on all the machines I have to use, and stop worrying
about all the details.

When I have to use the tools, I add /opt/autotools/bin at the beginning of
my PATH.  When I don't need them, I remove /opt/autotools/bin from my path.

This has worked wonders so far.

- Giorgos



[1] The operative keyword here is at work.  I don't use autoconf and
friends for programs I write on my own.  I prefer bsd.*.mk for that.
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Re: Memory Question

2005-01-13 Thread Eric F Crist
On Jan 13, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Colin J. Raven wrote:
I'm wondering seriously about this top output:
(2.6 GhZ Celeron 1GB RAM)
Mem: 52M Active, 316M Inact, 134M Wired, 111M Buf, 494M Free
Swap: 2023M Total, 2023M Free
This does add up to the 1GB of memory that my 5.3-RELEASE box has,
that's not my question.
I always understood in FreeBSD that Free Memory is wasted memory
I compared this to the 5.3-RELEASE box of a colleague.
AMD Athlon (1800-something-or-other) also 1GB RAM
Mem: 467M Active, 224M Inact, 201M Wired, 33M Cache, 111M Buf, 71M Free
Swap: 4096M Total, 1672K Used, 4094M Free
Other than the fact that swap doesn't add up (or doesn't seem to) the
box of my colleague seems to have a more sensible (classic) amount of
free memory.
Is there something I can do in order to optimize - which in this case
paradoxically would seem to mean reduce the amount of free memory?
Regards  TIA,
-Colin
Colin,
If you want to be made fun of, this is the type of question that will 
push you in that direction (references 'Thanks You!' thread). ;)  Your 
colleague is probably running more applications/services than you, 
which is why he has less available memory.  To use up some of that 
memory, simply start up some more applications.

:) have a nice day!
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Re: Out of the frying pan...

2005-01-13 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 13 January 2005 04:18 pm, John wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 04:08:53PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
  On Thursday 13 January 2005 03:24 pm, John wrote:
   I just keep painting myself into corners, and I'm hoping that
   people can point out some (presumably dumb) things that I am
   doing, and recommend a course of action that will get me back to
   where I want to be.

 [ deleted for brevity ]

   I see my options as this:
   1) Try to figure out the dependency trees for kde, install
   kde-lite instead, and rip out the packages I don't need
   (theoretically possible - but feasible?)
   2) Back up /home, reinstall a minimum 5.2.1 system, do the
   installworld and installkernel again, and then do the install of
   the kde (or kde-lite) then restore /home (but how much larger do
   I need to make / and /usr?)
   3) Buy or build a 5.3 installation set, and redo the
   installation, using only the distributions I need, and hope it
   fits.
  
   Other suggestions?  Anything obvious I'm missing?  You folks have
   been extrememly helpful so far, so I'm hoping there's a good
   solution I'm just missing!
 
  1. Upgrade the hard drive.

 Yeah - thinking about that - but should I really need SEVERAL Gb to
 support the environment I want?  Maybe...

I don't think you'll ever regret getting more space.  Even if the 
platform doesn't need the space, you never know what immediate needs 
might pop up.

The first wedding/family reunion we attended with a digital camera 
produced almost 400MB of our own 5 Megapixal images.  That doesn't 
include copies of the relative's images.  Being over a thousand miles 
from home is no time to upgrade a laptop. (A slide show of the photos 
was running during the last extended family dinner.)


  2. If you're going to install Windows, install it before you
  install FreeBSD.

 Yup - learned THAT the hard way!  We do need to update the handbook
 and other documentation in this regard - the current docs give the
 impression that the only problem is that the boot manager gets
 lost.  I was, therefore, entirely ready for that, and had everything
 at hand to put it back - only to discover after putting the boot
 manager back that the problem was far, far worse than that.  Of
 course, that may be due to the ancient Windows I was installing.

  3. Definitely go with a clean installation of FreeBSD 5.3 rather
  than 5.2.1.

 Sigh.  OK.  I'll have to see if I can build that from what I have
 already...  Pointers to a way to build a distribution set for
 5.3-STABLE from what I have built?

I suggest downloading and installing the 5.3 Release CD #1; and cvsup it 
from there.  It would give you a clean start.  There were a lot of 
changes from 5.2.1 to 5.3.

A larger hard drive would uncomplicate this issue.


  4. Building OpenOffice requires massive resources.  Use the binary
  packages.

 Oh, definitely!  That is what I intend to do.

 Since I am using OpenOffice, should I use kde-lite instead of the
 full kde installation?

  5. When you install from ports, make sure you make install clean
  to remove working files when they're no longer needed.

 OK, but that system, where I have the sources and all, is not hurting
 for space.

That may be true for /usr/src; but are you also using that system 
for /usr/ports?  How is /tmp being handled?


  6. Use portupgrade (in the ports) to upgrade applications; but
  exclude OpenOffice.  Not only can portupgrade take care of
  dependencies, but it has options to look for binary packages online
  before opting to compile from source.

 Ah hah!  This is a trick I didn't know.  I'll learn that.

 Thanks!

  Best of luck,
 
  Andrew Gould

 Thank you, Andrew.  I'd still like to know why the disk footprint
 for what I want seems to have grown to dramatically.  My hunch is
 that when I did the installworld I got a bunch of distributions
 (to use the install terminology) that I didn't intend, but that's
 just speculation on my part.

It's hard to help with this issue.  Try using 'du' (man du) to find 
directories that are using unexpected amounts of space.

Good luck,

Andrew Gould

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Re: Upgrade to Courier 4.0.1?

2005-01-13 Thread Chris
To be fair it does say in the UPDATING list that this has to be done,
when portupgrade started downloading 4.x instinct made me hit ctrl-c
and check the UPDATING because its a major version change, and the
problem is authlib overwrites part of courier-imap which of course
means you will need to reinstall it after authlib is installed.

Chris


On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:02:07 +1300, Juha Saarinen
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 On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:44:57 -, Scott Bye
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  I updated to this via ports, and the services appear to be running and 
  listening for connections.
 
  However, if I connect to them, I get disconnected immediately, and nothing 
  appears to be logged for any of the services.
 
  It's obviously affecting both POP3 and IMAP, leaving the mail services on 
  my server useless.
 
  I tried reinstalling the port for courier-imap, but it complained that it 
  couldn't find courierlogger. So I reinstalled courier-authlib from ports, 
  and reinstalled courier-imap and it no longer complained. However, the 
  services are still doing exactly the same!
 
  Any ideas what has happened?!
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 Mr Sam, the Courier author, has made some pretty drastic changes
 with the new version. All the auth stuff has been moved into a
 separate package (courier-authlib). You need to add/edit some lines in
 rc.conf (see UPDATING) .
 
 Unfortunately, a straight upgrade of the port doesn't seem to work.
 I'm only using Courier-IMAP here, but had to delete the package and
 reinstall it after Courier-authlib to get things working again.
 
 --
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Re: Out of the frying pan...

2005-01-13 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Thursday 13 January 2005 05:05 pm, you wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 13, 2005 at 05:01:25PM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
  On Thursday 13 January 2005 04:18 pm, John wrote:

 ...

 Thanks, Andrew - any advice on the kde versus kde-lite thing?  I've
 been looking around, and I can't find a clear description of how
 they differ...

This is from the kde-lite port MAKEFILE:

WITHOUT_KDEVELOP=   yes
WITHOUT_KDEEDU= yes
WITHOUT_KDENETWORK= yes
WITHOUT_KDESDK= yes
WITHOUT_KDETOYS=yes
WITHOUT_KDEWEBDEV=  yes
WITHOUT_KOFFICE=yes

Given the space limitations, I'd make a list of things you do on the 
computer that's covered by KDE apps.   Then, install kde-lite and see 
if anything is missing.  If something's missing, install the individual 
port.

For example, if you use kppp (a nifty, ppp dialup program), which is in 
kdenetwork; so you would install it using the port 
at /usr/ports/net/kdenetwork3.

Since you use OpenOffice, however, you don't need koffice taking up 
space.

Best regards,

Andrew Gould
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Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something

2005-01-13 Thread Louis LeBlanc
Ok, I've finally broken down and bought myself one of those fancy
Microsoft thumbball thingys.  I got tired of tracking my mouse around
on a 5X5 square, which is exactly the amount of free space on my
desk right now.

Anyway, since Microsoft is a pretty good accessory company I figured
I'd check their thumbball out.  (I didn't say they were a good
software company)

I got the following immediately after plugging in:
Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: Microsoft Microsoft Trackball 
Optical®, rev 1.10/1.21, addr 2, iclass 3/1
Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir.

The only problem is that it has 5 buttons including the button wheel.

Give a man a hammer, he'll want to use it right?

Well, now I've got these two new hammers, and I can't get them
working quite right.

I've got the following in xorg.conf:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/ums0
Option  Buttons  7
Option  ZAxisMapping 6 7
EndSection


This is what I used to have:
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  Buttons  5
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

And I've restarted Xorg, and xev shows the proper button presses for
the left (button 1) and right (button 3) buttons, wheel press (button
2), and weel scrolls (buttons 4 and 5).  It also shows events for the
side buttons, 6 and 7.

I have the comand `xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7` in my
~/.xinitrc to set the buttons up, but I'm still getting odd behavior
when I roll the wheel.

So what's this strange behavior?  Well, every time I roll the mouse
wheel, I get the Fvwm Builtin menu.  I tried setting a Nop action in
the Fvwm mouse events config for buttons 6 and 7, but that breaks
scrolling with the wheel.  Now I can't seem to get scrolling back.  So
I need to figure out how to stop the menu popup without breaking the
scrolling.  Or at least get the scrolling back.

I've tried this with and without moused, but no change.  Naturally,
I change the Device above to /dev/sysmouse, and moused polls from
/dev/usm0.

I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE, Xorg 6.7.1 (built from ports) and
Fvwm 2.4.19 built with imlib support from the ports.

I think that's all.

Any ideas?

TIA
Lou
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Re: dhcpd for ipv6

2005-01-13 Thread Vince Hoffman

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Chuck Swiger wrote:
Erik Norgaard wrote:
kame dhcpd does not support address allocation and isc-dhcpd does not 
support ipv6 - despite ipv6 being defined in 1996. This makes running an 
ipv6 based local network cumbersome to manage.
You're absolutely right.
Does anyone know of alternatives?
I'm confused, I have a /64 from the hurricane electric tunnelbroker. 
I use rtadvd on the server that is the tunnel endpoint, 
advertise the /64 using rtadvd and use rtsold or XPs equivelent so any 
address's are the prefix then the mac address of the 
client machine (am using rtsold on netbsd and windows XP's ipv6 both of 
which work fine)
so it seems pretty easy to manage a single subnet lan. to me

Vince

Certainly: use IPv4.  ISC's dhcpd does just fine with classic IPv4 
addresses.
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RE: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something

2005-01-13 Thread Mark Beaver
In my experience with these leave the 4 5 as your ZAxisMapping and try it
should keep your wheel working.

I'm not sure how to get the other two to work though, I've always had issues
with that.


Mark Beaver

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 7:08 PM
To: FreeBSD Questions
Subject: Trackball, extra buttons, and X - I've lost something

Ok, I've finally broken down and bought myself one of those fancy
Microsoft thumbball thingys.  I got tired of tracking my mouse around
on a 5X5 square, which is exactly the amount of free space on my
desk right now.

Anyway, since Microsoft is a pretty good accessory company I figured
I'd check their thumbball out.  (I didn't say they were a good
software company)

I got the following immediately after plugging in:
Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: Microsoft Microsoft Trackball
Optical®, rev 1.10/1.21, addr 2, iclass 3/1
Jan 13 17:07:31 keyslapper kernel: ums0: 5 buttons and Z dir.

The only problem is that it has 5 buttons including the button wheel.

Give a man a hammer, he'll want to use it right?

Well, now I've got these two new hammers, and I can't get them
working quite right.

I've got the following in xorg.conf:

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/ums0
Option  Buttons  7
Option  ZAxisMapping 6 7
EndSection


This is what I used to have:
Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
Option  Buttons  5
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5
EndSection

And I've restarted Xorg, and xev shows the proper button presses for
the left (button 1) and right (button 3) buttons, wheel press (button
2), and weel scrolls (buttons 4 and 5).  It also shows events for the
side buttons, 6 and 7.

I have the comand `xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 7` in my
~/.xinitrc to set the buttons up, but I'm still getting odd behavior
when I roll the wheel.

So what's this strange behavior?  Well, every time I roll the mouse
wheel, I get the Fvwm Builtin menu.  I tried setting a Nop action in
the Fvwm mouse events config for buttons 6 and 7, but that breaks
scrolling with the wheel.  Now I can't seem to get scrolling back.  So
I need to figure out how to stop the menu popup without breaking the
scrolling.  Or at least get the scrolling back.

I've tried this with and without moused, but no change.  Naturally,
I change the Device above to /dev/sysmouse, and moused polls from
/dev/usm0.

I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 RELEASE, Xorg 6.7.1 (built from ports) and
Fvwm 2.4.19 built with imlib support from the ports.

I think that's all.

Any ideas?

TIA
Lou
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How can I speed up a dd copy?

2005-01-13 Thread Drumslayer2
 
 Hello
 When I am performing a dd between (2) 36 Gig 160
disks (to duplicate them) it takes about 2.5 hrs. Is
there any way I can speed this up? Is there any better
way I can clone a bootable main disk?

  Thanks

  NH.

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Re: Thank you!

2005-01-13 Thread Boris Spirialitious
Oh, but I do understand! FreeBSD is not good choice for companies
that need support for the latest hardware. Thank you for informing
me.
 
Boris
 
 
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I just wanted to thank you for making Freebsd 5.3 so badly. We changed
 to linux and our application runs so much faster its unbelievable. I report
 a small problem and they work hard to fix it. Not like freebsd do they 
 make fun of me or ask me to give them hardware. Its like a real product 
 this linux!

Glad you're happy.
Sorry you can not seem to comprehend a user volunteer supported system.

Bye,

jerry

 
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making jail on 5.3 release

2005-01-13 Thread Henryk Martinczak
Greetings

I installed FreeBSD 5.3 (it is my first Freebsd) from iso image and I
try to make jail with:

# make world DESTDIR=/jail/test

everything go fine until this: 

cc -0 -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include
-c/usr/src/games/fortune/strfile/strfile.c

make: don't know how to make /jail/test/usr/lib/libc.a. Stop
***Error code 2
Stopping /usr/src.


What is wrong??
Is there any step by step jail config quide ??

Regards,
H.M. 

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Re: How can I speed up a dd copy?

2005-01-13 Thread Matt Emmerton
  Hello
  When I am performing a dd between (2) 36 Gig 160
 disks (to duplicate them) it takes about 2.5 hrs. Is
 there any way I can speed this up? Is there any better
 way I can clone a bootable main disk?

A larger blocksize (bs=) will help dramatically.

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