Openoffice complete failure?

[Olivier Nicole]

Hi,

I just finished installing OpenOffice 2.0.3rc3 from the ports.

1) at starts it complains that:

I18N: Operating system doesn't support locale "en_US"

2) it keeps on starting on the welcome window, with acceptation of the
   licence and so on.

3) When I try to create and save a simple document it spits at me:

   General input/output error

What is going wrong?

Bests,

Olivier
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Re: Apache22 + PHP5 installation issues

[bsd]

> php 5.1.4 seems currently broken. try portdowngrade to the last 5.1.2
> port.
>
> Iv.
>
>

Many thanks, I'll try that.

Rob


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Re: forcing boot

[Lawrence Horvath]

On 6/4/06, Mikko Työläjärvi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Jun 4, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Lawrence Horvath wrote:
>
> How can i force normal boot up even if the filesystem was uncleanly
> dismounted,
> i have a box that it looks like the HD is failing, but i still need
> some of the info off it, so i would like to get it to boot normally
> anyway so i can sftp/scp the files off it then i can replace the HD,
> but it refuses boot anything but single user mode.

In single user mode /etc/netstart should bring up the network. If you
have data on partitions other than the root, you can manually mount
them read-only.

$.02,
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ahh netstart shoulde work great, gonna try that soon as i get home,
thank you, i think thats just what i needed
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Re: ldconfig -m for libs... how about upgrading @INC for perl modules??

[Kris Kennaway]

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 08:16:41PM -0700, Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After upgrading perl, a lot of applications broke,
> primarily because the new perl looks into
> site_perl/5.8.8 however my application modules are
> still in site_perl/5.8.7
> 
> Question:
> Is there an "ldconfig -m" sort of thing for this job?
> My new perl package installation process didn't bother
> about this one...
> Any idea? Thanks.

/usr/ports/UPDATING

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Re: Resizing Windows partitions ( was: Re: mount windows xp )

[David King]

Good luck, and if you need to resize some Windows partitions  
look  into partition magic.
If your budget doesn't allow for partition magic you might try Boot  
It NG from

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/


I also have good experiences with Gparted (http:// 
gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php), they have a LiveCD at http:// 
gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php


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Re: shmget: No space on device (sshit)

[David King]

Here it is. There looks to be quite a few share memory segments (192)
of size 64k owned by root, for a total of 12MB.
Any way to find out who (i.e. what process) owns these?

Yes.  Read the man page.


Okay, so the following command line (as well as a manual  
verification) produces no results
# ipcs -pm | cut -c 50-56 | while read r; do if [ "$r" -gt 1 ]; then  
ps axuww|grep -E "^[a-z]+[  ]+$r"; fi; done


That cuts out the CPID (creator PID?) of each of the shared memory  
segments from the output of "ipcs -pm" and then tries to find each of  
those PIDs in the output of "ps".


That leads me to believe that all of the processes that allocated the  
shm segments are no longer around. The machine has only been up for  
nine days this time around, so whatever program is doing it is doing  
it in relatively little time. Can you think of a way to track that,  
other than by PID (since those PIDs are disappearing)? It may be  
sshit itself; can anyone on the list read enough Perl to spot shared  
memory leaks? (it's a short script, 182 non-comment lines, that I can  
attach, and that is in /usr/ports/security/sshit)



Anything here that would prevent sshit from allocating more?
Sure.  That's the point to this.  You trimmed out all your config  
information,
but how many shared memory segments are you allowing?  How many  
semaphores?
If those are near 192 and 10, you may be hitting the limit on how  
_many_

are allowed, not how much memory they can use.


I have all of the IPC-related sysctls listed below. I do see that  
kern.ipc.shmmni is set to 192, and that kern.ipc.semmni is set to 10.  
Are those the maximums? What does MNI mean in those names? Is there a  
man page or recommended document that describes what these mean in  
detail?


# sysctl -a | grep ipc
kern.ipc.maxsockbuf: 262144
kern.ipc.sockbuf_waste_factor: 8
kern.ipc.somaxconn: 128
kern.ipc.max_linkhdr: 16
kern.ipc.max_protohdr: 60
kern.ipc.max_hdr: 76
kern.ipc.max_datalen: 132
kern.ipc.nmbclusters: 10944
kern.ipc.maxpipekva: 5341184
kern.ipc.pipes: 94
kern.ipc.pipekva: 819200
kern.ipc.pipefragretry: 0
kern.ipc.pipeallocfail: 0
kern.ipc.piperesizefail: 0
kern.ipc.piperesizeallowed: 1
kern.ipc.msgmax: 16384
kern.ipc.msgmni: 40
kern.ipc.msgmnb: 2048
kern.ipc.msgtql: 40
kern.ipc.msgssz: 8
kern.ipc.msgseg: 2048
kern.ipc.semmap: 30
kern.ipc.semmni: 10
kern.ipc.semmns: 60
kern.ipc.semmnu: 30
kern.ipc.semmsl: 60
kern.ipc.semopm: 100
kern.ipc.semume: 10
kern.ipc.semusz: 92
kern.ipc.semvmx: 32767
kern.ipc.semaem: 16384
kern.ipc.shmmax: 134217728
kern.ipc.shmmin: 1
kern.ipc.shmmni: 192
kern.ipc.shmseg: 128
kern.ipc.shmall: 8192
kern.ipc.shm_use_phys: 0
kern.ipc.shm_allow_removed: 0
kern.ipc.numopensockets: 223
kern.ipc.maxsockets: 10944
kern.ipc.nsfbufs: 2992
kern.ipc.nsfbufspeak: 5
kern.ipc.nsfbufsused: 0
ripcb:   180,10956,  2, 42,  266
security.jail.sysvipc_allowed: 0

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Re: MySQL port won't understand SSL configuration directives

[Matt Bostock]

Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

> The FreeBSD ports of MySQL don't install a my.cnf file; if they did,
> it would be in /usr/local/etc/, not /etc.  So it looks as if this is
> something you've done.

Thanks for your reply Greg.

From experience I've found that MySQL usually looks for /etc/my.cnf, and
it obviously is if it's complaining about a directive in there.

> The /x refers to a file name, of
> course. Does the file exist?

Yes; the SSL CA points to /dev/null and the certificate and key both
point to their respective files in /var/db/mysql/ssl/, chowned
mysql:mysql and chmod 440.

> Which version of MySQL?  This facility was introduced with release 4.0
> of MySQL.

4.1, fresh from the ports today.

Many thanks,
Matt



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ldconfig -m for libs... how about upgrading @INC for perl modules??

[Mark Jayson Alvarez]

Hi,

After upgrading perl, a lot of applications broke,
primarily because the new perl looks into
site_perl/5.8.8 however my application modules are
still in site_perl/5.8.7

Question:
Is there an "ldconfig -m" sort of thing for this job?
My new perl package installation process didn't bother
about this one...
Any idea? Thanks.

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Re: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the 8237R?

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> > > 
> > > >notice this thread is in reference to
> > swapping a MB for another MB and
> > > >coments like yours are not appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Please notice I never said what the box was
> > doing nor did I ask for your
> > > >opinion of what MB/NIC I use in my systems.
> > > 
> > > Makes no difference, he has as much right to
> > sound off as you do
> > > as long as he sounds off on FreeBSD or a
> > directly related topic.  This
> > > is a public forum.  If you don't like a post,
> > delete it.
> > 
> > So, I guess that means that the original poster
> > can spout off and say that
> > the response contained irrelevant and offensive
> > material if he wants as well.
> > Getting those types of responses is one way
> > that persons (at least some of
> > them who have sufficient perception) learn how
> > to make appropriate and
> > meaningful responses.  
> > 
> > > As I've said before on this mailing list,
> > freebsd-questions is a public
> > > mailing list that is FREE support.  You don't
> > "have it your way" you
> > > "have it the responders way"
> > 
> > And the original poster subsequently became a
> > responder.
> > 
> > > If you can shuck some pearls out of the
> > oyster bed here, your doing
> > > better than most, but you have no right to
> > urinate all over the oyster
> > > bed just because you don't find any pearls.
> > 
> > Wow, I am stunned.
> > 
> > > If you want it "your way" I suggest you
> > investigate PAID support.  There
> > > are plenty of people out there taking money
> > for support, and they will
> > > give you the support any way you want, on as
> > nice a silver platter and
> > > bed of roses and as polite as you want.
> > 
> > Pecuniary reward is not the only reason to
> > learn how to make reasonable,
> > meaningful responses that are to the point of
> > the question and to be
> > able to understand the difference.   Being able
> > to post responses that
> > are respected in the community is another
> > reward and may occasionally
> > require learning from peoples comments on the
> > quality of the responses.
> > 
> > jerry
> > 
> > > 
> > > > This SERVER is
> > > >purpose built
> > > >and runs stable 24/7 as a low volume
> > outbound mail server so
> > > >the performance
> > > >of the NIC is not my primary concern.
> > > 
> > > You have no need to justify what your doing
> > to him or to me or to
> > > anybody.
> > > Why bother doing it.
> > > 
> > > > Please keep your useless
> > > >comments to
> > > >yourself as they do nothing but waste disk
> > space, CPU time and
> > > >the valuable
> > > >time of people who attempt to help others on
> > this list.
> 
> How is informing someone that they're wasting
> their money on a MB a waste of time? I'm sure
> you've wasted thousands of your employers dollars
> with your ignorant recommendations, Jerry. I can
> get hours of entertainment just googling you.

I think by now, people have lost track of who has posted what.
I think I have am already not sure which is which on the later posts.

I don't really care what the responses were.   It is just
that Teddy got all flamey about the original poster telling
someone that their response was not helpful.   Seems like he
likes to dish it out but isn't as big on lunching on his
own menu.   

Of course, my post was almost as off-topic as Teddy's, but
it did apply to an extra comment made by the original poster.


> Ok, here's a test to illustrate my point. I have
> a server with a big file (352MB). 2 client
> machines running the same version of Freebsd:
> 
> 1) AMD 1.8Ghz Opteron - onboard bge controller:
> 
> Ftp results: 4MB/s
> 
> 2) Intel 2.0Ghz Celeron 845 Chipset, onboard fxp
> controller:
> 
> ftp results: 11MB/s
> 
> I think we'll all agree that a 1.8Ghz opteron is
> substantially faster (and more expensive) then a
> 2.0Ghz Celeron? (or will Jerry ask me to prove
> this also)? Its not rocket science. What good is
> the extra horsepower of the cpu doing you if
> you're using a crap controller? Its mindless
> stupidity; which is about what you'd expect from
> a sys admin, and not an engineer. The problem
> with this list is that its all sys admins, so
> learning from other idiots just causes  you to be
> just as stupid at your "teachers".

I haven't asked anyone to prove anything.   What you say may be true.  
So what.   The original poster just said it is irrelevant to the 
question asked.   Seemed to take a little offense too that seemed a 
little excessively touchy, but that's his business.

jerry

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Re: MySQL port won't understand SSL configuration directives

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Sunday,  4 June 2006 at 15:07:39 +, Matt Bostock wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I compiled the MySQL port with WITH_OPENSSL=yes, but it won't start as it
> complains about the SSL directives in /etc/my.cnf;
>
> [ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: unknown variable 'ssl-ca=/x'
>
> Any help is much appreciated,

The FreeBSD ports of MySQL don't install a my.cnf file; if they did,
it would be in /usr/local/etc/, not /etc.  So it looks as if this is
something you've done.  The /x refers to a file name, of
course.  It's barely possible that the error message is wrong and that
it's really saying "can't find file /x".  Does the file exist?

Which version of MySQL?  This facility was introduced with release 4.0
of MySQL.

Greg
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Re: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the 8237R?

[Jerry McAllister]

> 
> > > 
> > > >notice this thread is in reference to
> > swapping a MB for another MB and
> > > >coments like yours are not appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Please notice I never said what the box was
> > doing nor did I ask for your
> > > >opinion of what MB/NIC I use in my systems.
> > > 
> > > Makes no difference, he has as much right to
> > sound off as you do
> > > as long as he sounds off on FreeBSD or a
> > directly related topic.  This
> > > is a public forum.  If you don't like a post,
> > delete it.
> > 
> > So, I guess that means that the original poster
> > can spout off and say that
> > the response contained irrelevant and offensive
> > material if he wants as well.
> > Getting those types of responses is one way
> > that persons (at least some of
> > them who have sufficient perception) learn how
> > to make appropriate and
> > meaningful responses.  
> > 
> > > As I've said before on this mailing list,
> > freebsd-questions is a public
> > > mailing list that is FREE support.  You don't
> > "have it your way" you
> > > "have it the responders way"
> > 
> > And the original poster subsequently became a
> > responder.
> > 
> > > If you can shuck some pearls out of the
> > oyster bed here, your doing
> > > better than most, but you have no right to
> > urinate all over the oyster
> > > bed just because you don't find any pearls.
> > 
> > Wow, I am stunned.
> > 
> > > If you want it "your way" I suggest you
> > investigate PAID support.  There
> > > are plenty of people out there taking money
> > for support, and they will
> > > give you the support any way you want, on as
> > nice a silver platter and
> > > bed of roses and as polite as you want.
> > 
> > Pecuniary reward is not the only reason to
> > learn how to make reasonable,
> > meaningful responses that are to the point of
> > the question and to be
> > able to understand the difference.   Being able
> > to post responses that
> > are respected in the community is another
> > reward and may occasionally
> > require learning from peoples comments on the
> > quality of the responses.
> > 
> > jerry
> > 
> > > 
> > > > This SERVER is
> > > >purpose built
> > > >and runs stable 24/7 as a low volume
> > outbound mail server so
> > > >the performance
> > > >of the NIC is not my primary concern.
> > > 
> > > You have no need to justify what your doing
> > to him or to me or to
> > > anybody.
> > > Why bother doing it.
> > > 
> > > > Please keep your useless
> > > >comments to
> > > >yourself as they do nothing but waste disk
> > space, CPU time and
> > > >the valuable
> > > >time of people who attempt to help others on
> > this list.
> 
> How is informing someone that they're wasting
> their money on a MB a waste of time? I'm sure
> you've wasted thousands of your employers dollars
> with your ignorant recommendations, Jerry. I can
> get hours of entertainment just googling you.

I think by now, people have lost track of who has posted what.
I don't really care what the responses were.   It is just
that Teddy got all flamey about the original poster telling
someone that their response was not helpful.   Seems like he
likes to dish it out but isn't as big on lunching on his
own menu.   

Of course, my post was almost as off-topic as Teddy's, but
it did apply to a comment made by the original poster.


> Ok, here's a test to illustrate my point. I have
> a server with a big file (352MB). 2 client
> machines running the same version of Freebsd:
> 
> 1) AMD 1.8Ghz Opteron - onboard bge controller:
> 
> Ftp results: 4MB/s
> 
> 2) Intel 2.0Ghz Celeron 845 Chipset, onboard fxp
> controller:
> 
> ftp results: 11MB/s
> 
> I think we'll all agree that a 1.8Ghz opteron is
> substantially faster (and more expensive) then a
> 2.0Ghz Celeron? (or will Jerry ask me to prove
> this also)? Its not rocket science. What good is
> the extra horsepower of the cpu doing you if
> you're using a crap controller? Its mindless
> stupidity; which is about what you'd expect from
> a sys admin, and not an engineer. The problem
> with this list is that its all sys admins, so
> learning from other idiots just causes  you to be
> just as stupid at your "teachers".

I haven't asked anyone to prove anything.   What you say may be true.  
So what.   The original poster just said it is irrelevant to the 
question asked.   Seemed to take a little offense too that seemed a 
little excessively touchy, but that's his business.

jerry

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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

[Olivier Nicole]

> I cannot get it to reveal the crosslink that is preventing the removal.

I beleive you tried find -inum.

Do you have any lost+found directory at the root top level of the
filesystem?

I haven't seen any mention of the version of the FreeBSD you are
running, nor the type of file system you are having problem with.

If you have spare disk/partition, I beleive you could always copy
everything (but the problem files) to a new partition and newfs the
one making problem.

best regards,

Olivier
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Re: forcing boot

[Mikko Työläjärvi]

On Jun 4, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Lawrence Horvath wrote:

How can i force normal boot up even if the filesystem was uncleanly 
dismounted,

i have a box that it looks like the HD is failing, but i still need
some of the info off it, so i would like to get it to boot normally
anyway so i can sftp/scp the files off it then i can replace the HD,
but it refuses boot anything but single user mode.


In single user mode /etc/netstart should bring up the network. If you
have data on partitions other than the root, you can manually mount
them read-only.

   $.02,
   /Mikko
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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

[Jack Stone]

From: Chris Whitehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:59:48 +0100


[EMAIL PROTECTED]


I can move the entire directory package, i.e.,
local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
 but, not just the file.
Also, any move must be within the same partition.

I cannot get it to reveal the crosslink that is preventing the removal.

THX
Jack


Update your locate database and see if there are any other instances of the 
file? Just a shot in the dark


Chris



Chris: Yes, there are others:

The one I can't delete:
/tmp2/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
and the others
/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/Sys/Hostname.pm
/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm

What would be the issue if the above exists?

THX
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Re: is vinum in FBSD 6.0?

[Greg 'groggy' Lehey]

On Friday,  2 June 2006 at  5:04:15 -0500, Kevin Kinsey wrote:
> Travis H. wrote:
>>
>> Is there some kind of IP lawsuit over vinum or something?
>
> If so, it's never been mentioned ;-)

It has now, but it's the first time I've heard of it.

> It's a valid question, but I don't think Greg's that kind of guy.
> As for Veritas, I *think* they had some sort of agreement (re: the
> name), (but I could be blowing smoke there); IIRC, vinum(8) was
> "patterned after the idea of" the Veritas software, and not in any
> way a "copy" or "clone" of it

In fact, I never asked VERITAS.  I only modelled Vinum on VxVM,
anyway; there are big differences.

In any case, there was one IP issue at the very beginning: I developed
the RAID-5 functionality under contract with Cybernet Inc., and part
of that agreement was that I would not release it until 18 months
after it became functional.  That time has long passed, and RAID-5 has
of course been released.  There have never been any conflicts arising
from IP issues, neither with Cybernet, VERITAS, myself or anybody
else.

> As others have stated, vinum has been replaced by "gvinum".  Greg
> had stated in the past that the GEOM layer's introduction had "badly
> broken vinum", so I'm guessing that vinum was removed so that no one
> would attempt to use it on a newer system and get "unexpected"
> results.

The original intention was to modify Vinum to work with GEOM.  Lukas
did the work, and he chose to rewrite significant parts of it, and
also to rename it.  I disagreed with both of these decisions (see the
problems they've caused, like what's being discussed here), but he's
the man, and he gets to call the shots.

Greg
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Re: building xgl

[Jim Stapleton]

shoot, so close-

I got to the last step:


cvs -z3 -d :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/xorg co -r
xgl-0-0-1 xserver
cd xserver/xorg

sed -i '' -E 's/@APP_MAN_SUFFIX@/man/g' doc/Makefile.am

CFLAGS="-I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include" \
XLIB_CFLAGS="-I/usr/X11R6/include" \
XLIB_LIBS="-lX11 -L/usr/X11R6/lib" \
GL_CFLAGS="-I/usr/X11R6/include" \
GL_LIBS="-lGL -L/usr/X11R6/lib" \
DRIPROTO_CFLAGS="-I/usr/X11R6/include/X11/dri" \
DRIPROTO_LIBS="-L/usr/X11R6/lib" \
XSERVERLIBS_CFLAGS="-I/usr/X11R6/include" \
XSERVERLIBS_LIBS=" -lxkbfile -lXxf86misc -lXxf86vm -lXaw -lXmu -lXt \
   -lXpm -lXext -lX11 -L/usr/X11R6/lib" \
XSERVERCFLAGS_CFLAGS="-I/usr/X11R6/include/extensions" \
XSERVERCFLAGS_LIBS="-lxkbfile -lXfont -lXau -lfontenc -L/usr/X11R6/lib" \
XORGCONFIG_DEP_CFLAGS="-I/usr/X11R6/include" \
XORGCONFIG_DEP_LIBS="-lxkbfile -lX11 -L/usr/X11R6/lib" \
XORGCFG_DEP_CFLAGS="-I/usr/X11R6/include" \
XORGCFG_DEP_LIBS="-lxkbui -lxkbfile -lXxf86misc -lXxf86vm -lXaw -lXmu -lXt \
   -lXpm -lXext -lX11 -L/usr/X11R6/lib" \
XGLMODULES_CFLAGS="-I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include" \
XGLMODULES_LIBS="-lglitz -lXfont -lfreetype -lfontconfig -lfntstubs -lXrender \
   -lXrandr -lXau -lxkbfile -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib" \
XGLXMODULES_CFLAGS="-I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include" \
XGLXMODULES_LIBS="-lglitz-glx -ldrm -lXfont -lfontconfig -lfreetype
-L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib" \
FREETYPE_CFLAGS="-I/usr/local/include" \
FREETYPE_LIBS="-lfreetype -L/usr/local/lib" \
./autogen.sh --enable-xgl --disable-xorg --disable-xprint --enable-glx \
--enable-dri --with-mesa-source=/opt/SRC/Mesa \
--with-release-snap=1 --disable-dmx --disable-xvfb \
--disable-xnest --enable-xglx --enable-xkb \
--disable-kdriveserver --prefix=/opt/fdo --disable-builddocs && \
make && make install



and it bailed on me with this error:

/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/xmms.m4:62: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_XMMS
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/wxwin.m4:36: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_OPTIONS_WXCONFIG
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/wxwin.m4:59: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_WXCONFIG
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/speex.m4:10: warning:
underquoted definition of XIPH_PATH_SPEEX
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/smpeg.m4:13: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SMPEG
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/pilot-link.m4:1: warning:
underquoted definition of AC_PILOT_LINK_HOOK
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/linc.m4:1: warning: underquoted
definition of AM_PATH_LINC
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/libmikmod.m4:11: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBMIKMOD
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/libfame.m4:6: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBFAME
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/libart.m4:11: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBART
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/libIDL.m4:6: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBIDL
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:9: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_IMLIB
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:167: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/gtk.m4:7: warning: underquoted
definition of AM_PATH_GTK
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted
definition of AM_PATH_GLIB
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/audiofile.m4:12: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_AUDIOFILE
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/ao.m4:9: warning: underquoted
definition of XIPH_PATH_AO
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/aalib.m4:12: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_AALIB
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/ORBit.m4:4: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_ORBIT
autoreconf: running: /usr/local/gnu-autotools/bin/autoconf
configure.ac:464: error: possibly undefined macro: XTRANS_CONNECTION_FLAGS
 If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow.
 See the Autoconf documentation.
autoreconf: /usr/local/gnu-autotools/bin/autoconf failed with exit status: 1



or this error, if I removed the slashes that were outside of quotes,
at the end of the lines:

/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/libfame.m4:6: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBFAME
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/libart.m4:11: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBART
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/libIDL.m4:6: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBIDL
/usr/local/gnu-autotools/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:9: warning:
underquoted definition of AM_PATH

growisofs and dual layer dvd

[Andy Miller]

I'm attempting to burn a dual layer dvd video, but not having much luck.  
Here's what happens:

> growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cd1=DVD.iso -speed=2
Executing 'builtin_dd if=DVD.iso of=/dev/pass1 obs=32k seek=0'
/dev/pass1: splitting layers at 1992528 blocks
:-[ SEND DVD+R DOUBLE LAYER RECORDING INFORMATION failed with 
SK=2h/ASC=04h/ACQ=01h]: Resource temporarily unavailable

Am I missing something?  If anyone has gotten this to work, I'd be interested 
in hearing
what you had to do.  Thanks in advance.

Here's some more info incase it helps:

> sudo dvd+rw-mediainfo /dev/cd1
INQUIRY:[SONY][DVD RW DRU-720A ][JY08]
GET [CURRENT] CONFIGURATION:
 Mounted Media: 2Bh, DVD+R Double Layer
 Media ID:  RICOHJPN/D00
 Current Write Speed:   2.4x1385=3324KB/s
 Write Speed #0:2.4x1385=3324KB/s
GET [CURRENT] PERFORMANCE:
 Write Performance: 2.4x1385=3324KB/[EMAIL PROTECTED] -> 0]
 Speed Descriptor#0:00/0 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s [EMAIL PROTECTED]/s
READ DVD STRUCTURE[#0h]:
 Media Book Type:   E1h, DVD+R DL book [revision 1]
 Legacy lead-out at:2086912*2KB=4273995776
DVD+R DOUBLE LAYER BOUNDARY INFORMATION:
 L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2086912*2KB, can still be set
READ DISC INFORMATION:
 Disc status:   blank
 Number of Sessions:1
 State of Last Session: empty
 Number of Tracks:  1
READ TRACK INFORMATION[#1]:
 Track State:   blank
 Track Start Address:   0*2KB
 Next Writable Address: 0*2KB
 Free Blocks:   4173824*2KB
 Track Size:4173824*2KB
 ROM Compatibility LBA: 262144
READ CAPACITY:  0*2048=0

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xedit problem

[Vitaly D]

hello again

i have a little problem
when attemptin to start xedit i have the folloving message :

Error: Shell widget fileMenu has zero width and/or height

i'm using XFree86 4.6.0. at the beginig xedit worked just fine. But recently 
i've installed Gtk+ and openmotif. remouving libXm and libMrm (openmotif 
libs) didn't help.


Maybe one of you knows where the problem comes from

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Re: difference between deinstall and pkg_delete?

[RW]

On Friday 02 June 2006 08:53, Mikhail Goriachev wrote:
> Jon Falconer wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I see in the man page for ports the following:
> >
> >  reinstallUse this to restore a port after using
> > pkg_delete(1) when you should have used deinstall.
> >
> > So I'm wondering what is the difference between pkg_delete and using
> > "make deinstall" from within the ports directory? What does "make
> > deinstall" do that pkg_delete does not do? What does pkg_delete do that
> > "make deinstall" does not do?
>
> Hi,
>
> This will point you in the right direction:
>
> http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-29467.html

Actually I think that points in wrong direction. There is a lot of 
misinformation about this that is repeated ad-nauseum.

Most ports use the standard deinstall target which calls pkg_delete; there is 
only one port in the whole tree that defines it own deinstall target, and 
that one installs its own versions of the pkg_* utilities. 

The port system uses a series of cookie files to keep track of what has been 
done. For example if you type "make && make" the port will only build once, 
because the first make sets the "build cookie". There is also an Install 
cookie which leads to a problem when you go through the sequence

make install
pkg_delete
make install

because pkg_delete doesn't know about the port cookies. The deinstall and 
reinstall targets both delete the cookie and so using one or the other avoids 
the problem.  

In practice this is virtually a non-issue since most people, and all build 
tools, will do a make clean at some point in the sequence.
















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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Jack Stone]

From: Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 20:06:25 -0400

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 06:57:27PM -0500, Jack Stone wrote:
> >From: James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:57:52 -0700
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:42:16 -0500
> >> From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> >>
> >> >From: "Ricardo Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:39:05 -0300
> >> >
> >> >This occurred to me once, I simply booted the system in single user
> >mode
> >> >and
> >> >removed the file.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Nope, that didn't work either. really strangest undeletes I've 
ever

> >> encounted.
> >>
> >> THX
> >> Jack
> >
> >Have you posted the output of ls -lo (problem filename) ?
> >
>
> I have not posted it, but here it is for the 2 files:
> dr1# ls -lo *.pm
> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  - 5 Jun  4 13:58 Hostname.pm
> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  - 0 Jun  6  2004 Syslog.pm
>
> HTH

Unmount (or drop to single-user mode) and fsck -f the drive to fix the
filesystem corruption.

Kris


That was already done long before I posted the problem as I mentioned in an 
earlier post of this thread.


Jack

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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Kris Kennaway]

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 06:57:27PM -0500, Jack Stone wrote:
> >From: James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:57:52 -0700
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:42:16 -0500
> >> From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> >>
> >> >From: "Ricardo Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:39:05 -0300
> >> >
> >> >This occurred to me once, I simply booted the system in single user 
> >mode
> >> >and
> >> >removed the file.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Nope, that didn't work either. really strangest undeletes I've ever
> >> encounted.
> >>
> >> THX
> >> Jack
> >
> >Have you posted the output of ls -lo (problem filename) ?
> >
> 
> I have not posted it, but here it is for the 2 files:
> dr1# ls -lo *.pm
> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  - 5 Jun  4 13:58 Hostname.pm
> -rwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  - 0 Jun  6  2004 Syslog.pm
> 
> HTH

Unmount (or drop to single-user mode) and fsck -f the drive to fix the
filesystem corruption.

Kris


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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Jack Stone]

From: James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:57:52 -0700

> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:42:16 -0500
> From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> >From: "Ricardo Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:39:05 -0300
> >
> >This occurred to me once, I simply booted the system in single user 
mode

> >and
> >removed the file.
> >
>
> Nope, that didn't work either. really strangest undeletes I've ever
> encounted.
>
> THX
> Jack

Have you posted the output of ls -lo (problem filename) ?



I have not posted it, but here it is for the 2 files:
dr1# ls -lo *.pm
-rwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  - 5 Jun  4 13:58 Hostname.pm
-rwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  - 0 Jun  6  2004 Syslog.pm

HTH

THX,
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Re: shmget: No space on device (sshit)

[Bill Moran]

David King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >> I'm trying to use sshit.pl from /usr/ports/secrurity/sshit, and I'm
> >> having some trouble with it that I think may be a bug, or a mis-
> >> configuration on my part. [...]
> > How about the output from 'ipcs -b'.
> 
> Here it is. There looks to be quite a few share memory segments (192)  
> of size 64k owned by root, for a total of 12MB.
> Any way to find out who (i.e. what process) owns these?

Yes.  Read the man page.

> Anything here that would prevent sshit from allocating more?

Sure.  That's the point to this.  You trimmed out all your config information,
but how many shared memory segments are you allowing?  How many semaphores?
If those are near 192 and 10, you may be hitting the limit on how _many_
are allowed, not how much memory they can use.

> 
> Message Queues:
> T ID KEYMODE   OWNERGROUP QBYTES
> 
> Shared Memory:
> T ID KEYMODE   OWNERGROUP  SEGSZ
> m  65536 1768452979 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65537 134881 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65538 936011 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65539  21505 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65540 708471 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65541 393998 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65542 463840 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65543 239768 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65544 315355 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65545 647301 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65546 758220 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65547 319092 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65548 438209 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65549 264750 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65550 900372 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65551 450947 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65552 319143 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65553 667132 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65554 678503 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  6 205070 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65556 261008 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65557 746913 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65558 537169 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65559 148677 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65560 466431 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65561 847944 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65562 493283 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65563 291515 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65564 273361 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65565 361511 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65566 943679 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65567 104850 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65568 923027 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65569  99654 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65570 109215 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65571 151776 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65572 780233 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65573  36300 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65574 996835 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65575 905752 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65576 413185 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65577 738308 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65578 378455 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65579 292777 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65580 280534 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65581 922167 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65582 205803 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65583 843486 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65584 643431 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65585 619205 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65586 466482 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65587 842890 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65588 421007 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65589 123134 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65590 203026 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65591 126853 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65592 560544 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65593 777368 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65594 347079 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65595 548244 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65596 223498 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65597 211499 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65598 426141 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65599 929676 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65600 589519 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65601 238356 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65602 903119 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65603 742518 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
> m  65604 1

Re: libssl

[Vitaly D]

From: Dan Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Vitaly D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: libssl
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 17:44:42 -0500

OpenSSL is included in the base system.  You can check to see what
version you have by looking in the /usr/include/openssl/opensslv.h
header file.



Hello, Dan

I don't have openssl.h i've installed minimal distro without ssl. That's why 
i ask my question where from comes the ssl support on FreeBSD: OpenSSL or 
any other 9maybe home-made). But i guess it is openssl because of 
/usr/include/openssl you have mentionned above.


just to be sure.
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Re: shmget: No space on device (sshit)

[David King]

I'm trying to use sshit.pl from /usr/ports/secrurity/sshit, and I'm
having some trouble with it that I think may be a bug, or a mis-
configuration on my part. [...]

How about the output from 'ipcs -b'.


Here it is. There looks to be quite a few share memory segments (192)  
of size 64k owned by root, for a total of 12MB.

Any way to find out who (i.e. what process) owns these?
Anything here that would prevent sshit from allocating more?

Message Queues:
T ID KEYMODE   OWNERGROUP QBYTES

Shared Memory:
T ID KEYMODE   OWNERGROUP  SEGSZ
m  65536 1768452979 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65537 134881 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65538 936011 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65539  21505 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65540 708471 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65541 393998 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65542 463840 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65543 239768 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65544 315355 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65545 647301 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65546 758220 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65547 319092 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65548 438209 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65549 264750 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65550 900372 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65551 450947 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65552 319143 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65553 667132 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65554 678503 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  6 205070 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65556 261008 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65557 746913 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65558 537169 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65559 148677 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65560 466431 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65561 847944 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65562 493283 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65563 291515 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65564 273361 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65565 361511 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65566 943679 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65567 104850 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65568 923027 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65569  99654 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65570 109215 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65571 151776 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65572 780233 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65573  36300 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
m  65574 996835 --rw-r--r-- rootwheel  65536
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Re: libssl

[Dan Nelson]

In the last episode (Jun 04), Vitaly D said:
> just wondering which version of libssl is used by FreeBSD? Is it
> openssl ?  because i want to install libssl but without using ports
> system.

OpenSSL is included in the base system.  You can check to see what
version you have by looking in the /usr/include/openssl/opensslv.h
header file.

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Re: i wish to buy your site

[Hunter Fuller]

On  04 Jun 2006, at 9:10 PM, Alex de Kruijff wrote:


On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 08:52:18AM +, Hunter Fuller wrote:

Whose again? Mine? You sent this mail to quite a few people!


So did you.

Intentionally. :)




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Re: forcing boot

[Garrett Cooper]

On Jun 4, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Lawrence Horvath wrote:

How can i force normal boot up even if the filesystem was uncleanly  
dismounted,

i have a box that it looks like the HD is failing, but i still need
some of the info off it, so i would like to get it to boot normally
anyway so i can sftp/scp the files off it then i can replace the HD,
but it refuses boot anything but single user mode.

Thanks

--
-Lawrence


Don't think you can do that really because it's a failsafe with /etc/ 
rc. You may just want to try adding noauto to /etc/fstab for the time  
being so that booting doesn't halt on your system, then login and  
transfer all the data off your disk that you can. Since TERM isn't  
set in single-user mode, I've found learning how sed works is a very  
good thing to do. I believe this would fix your problem (can't test  
since my FBSD box has been down due to SCSI disk controller/PSU  
failure):


#!/bin/csh

FSTAB=/etc/fstab; #just a variable to reference the old fstab

if [ -ne $1 ]; then # the device filename length should be non-zero
cp -p $FSTAB $FSTAB.tmp; #backup the old fstab
	cat $FSTAB.tmp | sed -e s|^$1.*rw|$1.*rw,noauto|g > $FSTAB #replace  
rw for the old partition in fstab with rw,noauto

fi

-Garrett
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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

[Chris Whitehouse]

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


I can move the entire directory package, i.e.,
local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
 but, not just the file.
Also, any move must be within the same partition.

I cannot get it to reveal the crosslink that is preventing the removal.

THX
Jack


Update your locate database and see if there are any other instances of 
the file? Just a shot in the dark


Chris

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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[James Long]

> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:42:16 -0500
> From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
> 
> >From: "Ricardo Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:39:05 -0300
> >
> >This occurred to me once, I simply booted the system in single user mode 
> >and
> >removed the file.
> >
> 
> Nope, that didn't work either. really strangest undeletes I've ever 
> encounted.
> 
> THX
> Jack

Have you posted the output of ls -lo (problem filename) ?

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forcing boot

[Lawrence Horvath]

How can i force normal boot up even if the filesystem was uncleanly dismounted,
i have a box that it looks like the HD is failing, but i still need
some of the info off it, so i would like to get it to boot normally
anyway so i can sftp/scp the files off it then i can replace the HD,
but it refuses boot anything but single user mode.

Thanks

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Re: Help: Novice - Hardware Advice!

[Karl Vogel]

>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2006 12:09:50 +0200, 
>> "Maan Jee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

M> I wanna build a super duper FreeBSD web server box with apache2, mysql5,
M> php, etc.  But I am just unsure about what kind of hardware I should buy
M> since I am not having a big budget but do have a reasonable

   Have a look at the Ars Technica system guide, updated every few months:

   http://arstechnica.com/guides/buyer/system-guide-200604.ars
   Ars System Guide: April 2006 edition
   Brian Won
   Sunday, April 16, 2006

   Recommendations come in the form of three hypothetical computers.

   Budget Box: This puppy is dedicated to finding the least expensive
   options possible while still giving you full functionality.  The Budget
   Box may sound cheap, but it's not.  It's simply inexpensive jet power,
   priced at under US$800.

   Hot Rod: This one's been juiced up, but with limited funds.  Think of
   the auto hobbyist.  He may not buy the fastest car out there, but he
   does the best he can with what he's got.  We try to keep the Hot Rod
   under US$1,600.

   God Box: This is for the guy who has just won the lottery, or whose
   company is funding the purchase (same thing).
   
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vogelke at pobox dot com   http://www.pobox.com/~vogelke

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Next day the sun wouldn't rise. --Steven Wright

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Re: FreeBSD and newer HDD problems ?

[Pavel Duda]

Nikolas Britton wrote:

On 6/4/06, Pavel Duda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I've forgot to add that system is FreeBSD 6.0 (no custom kernel), P4
1.8GHz, 384MB RAM, Realtek gigabit NIC (8169), Intel EE NIC 10/100mbit.



What SATA controller are you using?, and have you tried this with
FreeBSD 6.1? if not you should.




It is PATA controller on i845 mobo so it is quite old. It works in 
UDMA100 mode. Next week I will probably try to hook it to ATA UDMA133 
PCI card to see if there is some difference.


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Re: mount windows xp

[Atanas Atanasov]

I often do this and there are two practical solutions. One is as
Garrett mentioned to simply have a small FAT32 partition that suits
your needs (remember max file size is 4GB), call it buffer, and mount
if from both OS. A better solution may be to use samba. This is much
better, but you need an extra server running either pure Windows or
some alternative OS with samba server. Then you simply access this
server from both OS and it should not be a problem hopefully.
Sometimes I am surprised by the wonders an extra smbfs record in fstab
can do. It is very very practical, believe me. It has saved me out of
sticky situations a number of times. Just remember to put tight
security settings on the file server.

Atanas
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libssl

[Vitaly D]

Hello

just wondering which version of libssl is used by FreeBSD? Is it openssl ? 
because i want to install libssl but without using ports system.


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Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?

[Donald J. O'Neill]

On Sunday 04 June 2006 12:54, Mikhail Goriachev wrote:
> Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
> > On Sunday 04 June 2006 12:19, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> >> On 6/4/06, Jonathan Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system
> >>> where the port had never been previously installed?
> >
> > No, you can't.
> >
> >> Yes... but what's the point?... when you can make your own
> >> packages. instead of typing 'make install' type 'make package',
> >> this will spit out a .tbz file you can use with pkg_add etc...
> >> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html
> >
> > Now, this is what I do, except do it "make package-recursive", that
> > way you get any packages that have been installed as requirements.
> >
> > Be sure to do "mkdir /usr/ports/packages", otherwise, the packages
> > you're making are going to be stored in the individual port. If you
> > have /usr/ports/packages, they'll be stored in one location that
> > you can copy elsewhere, cd or dvd for instance.
>
> You could also use pkg_create.
>
> man pkg_create
>
> Cheers,
> Mikhail.


Yes, you could, if it's already installed on the computer. If I took the 
output from pkg_info and compared it to what packages were 
in /usr/ports/packages/All, I could use pkg_create to build the missing 
packages I wanted to save to do a fast reinstall. But, if the port 
hasn't been built and installed yet, pkg_create will complain about it 
and conk out.

Don
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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

[Jack Stone]

From: Duane Whitty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:58:11 -0300

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 02:57:38PM -0500, Jack Stone wrote:
> >From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500
> >
> >>From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >>Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400
> >>
> >>"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >>> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >>> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
> >>> >
> >>> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.
> >>> >
> >>> >[...]
> >>> >
> >>> >>Here are the files and the error message:
> >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not
> >>permitted
> >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not 
permitted

> >>> >
> >>> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:
> >>> >
> >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
> >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm
> >>> >
> >>> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag
> >>would
> >>> >be set, but it's something to try.
> >>> >
> >>> >HTH.
> >>> >
> >>> >--
> >>> >Chris Hill   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!
> >>
> >>If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, 
and

> >>they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the
> >>partition.
> >>
> >>I had this happen a number of years ago.  We had dirty power and the
> >>system
> >>would reboot on occasion during brownout.  We finally got UPS on the
> >>system,
> >>but months later we had files that wouldn't delete.  The only way we
> >>finally
> >>got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck.  I expect the 
disk
> >>suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took 
time

> >>before we noticed.
> >>
> >>Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the 
files

> >>open.
> >>
> >>HTH.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Bill Moran
> >>
> >
> >Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very 
mysteries.

> >A free cigar to anyone who solves this one!
> >
>
> Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2 files, I
> tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a solution IF I 
could

> only do that.
>
> Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/" to /usr
>
> mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link
>
> Does this new hint stike any bells?
>
> THX
> Jack
>
Hi,

Since you can move the directory can you move (rename) the file?
If you can mv just the files can you access/modify the files?

Because of the cross-device link error message maybe this is hard link
related?  Any files with the same name floating around?  Obviously this
isn't normal hard link behaviour but maybe a link was somehow damaged?


Best Regards,

Duane Whitty
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I can move the entire directory package, i.e.,
local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
 but, not just the file.
Also, any move must be within the same partition.

I cannot get it to reveal the crosslink that is preventing the removal.

THX
Jack

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Re: i wish to buy your site

[Alex de Kruijff]

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 08:52:18AM +, Hunter Fuller wrote:
> Whose again? Mine? You sent this mail to quite a few people!

So did you.
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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

[Jack Stone]

From: "Nikolas Britton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:37:52 -0500

On 6/4/06, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link

Does this new hint stike any bells?



http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group%3A%2A.freebsd.%2A+%22terminated+with+1+%28non-zero%29+status%3A+Cross-device+link%22&qt_s=Search

If that doesn't help try using a hammer :-)



Nothing new there. I guess it's the hammer.

Where is Superman when you need him...??

THX
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Re: how to instaal

[Alex de Kruijff]

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 07:26:45PM +0200, dezwarte wrote:
>  I have buy last a alphaserver800 5/400 so I like to learn freebsd and how
> it works.
> 
> But it is all new for me so I want to instaal it on my new machine.
> 
> Is there enyody who can give me some examples "how to install" it on a
> alphaserver800

The FreeBSD handbook expains the process step by step. You can find it
at: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/. Feel free to write this list if
you have problem afther reading this.

freebsd-alpha is a technical list. The charter for the alpha list is:
"This is the technical mailing list. It is for individuals actively
working on porting FreeBSD to the Alpha from HP (Formerly Digital
Equipment Corp. and Compaq), to bring up problems or discuss alternative
solutions. Individuals interested in following the technical discussion
are also welcome."

The charter for freebsd-questions is: "This is the mailing list for
questions about FreeBSD. You should not send how to questions to the
technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty
technical."

-- 
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Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply.

Howtos based on my personal use, including information about 
setting up a firewall and creating traffic graphs with MRTG
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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

[Jack Stone]

From: Garrett Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 13:37:37 -0700

On Jun 4, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Jack Stone wrote:


From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500


From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400

"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:
> >
> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >>Here are the files and the error message:
> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not  
permitted
> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not  
permitted

> >
> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:
> >
> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm
> >
> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the  flag 
would

> >be set, but it's something to try.
> >
> >HTH.
> >
> >--
> >Chris Hill   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!

If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should  delete, 
and

they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and  fsck the
partition.

I had this happen a number of years ago.  We had dirty power and  the 
system
would reboot on occasion during brownout.  We finally got UPS on  the 
system,
but months later we had files that wouldn't delete.  The only way  we 
finally
got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck.  I expect  the 
disk

suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it  took time
before we noticed.

Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the  files 
open.


HTH.

--
Bill Moran



Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very  
mysteries.

A free cigar to anyone who solves this one!



Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2  files, I 
tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a  solution IF I 
could only do that.


Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/"  to /usr

mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link

Does this new hint stike any bells?

THX
Jack


	I assume that you tried deleting this as root? Sometimes files have  been 
resistant to my deleting them unless I am root, even when I'm  the owner.
	Have you also tried doing something to the file to write to it, like  cat 
or echo? My theory is that maybe if you did that then tried to  delete the 
file, it will work because you flushed the previous  information and closed 
the file properly.

Best of luck,
-Garrett


Good suggest & I thought you had the answer. I was able to write to the 
(zero bytes) file with cat and it took the new bytes. But, still can't 
delete.


BTW: Have the permissions set to 777 too.

How to find that "crosslink" and break it is the issue I guess.

The mystery continues.

THX
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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

[Duane Whitty]

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 02:57:38PM -0500, Jack Stone wrote:
> >From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500
> >
> >>From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >>Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400
> >>
> >>"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >>> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >>> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
> >>> >
> >>> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.
> >>> >
> >>> >[...]
> >>> >
> >>> >>Here are the files and the error message:
> >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not 
> >>permitted
> >>> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted
> >>> >
> >>> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:
> >>> >
> >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
> >>> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm
> >>> >
> >>> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag 
> >>would
> >>> >be set, but it's something to try.
> >>> >
> >>> >HTH.
> >>> >
> >>> >--
> >>> >Chris Hill   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!
> >>
> >>If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, and
> >>they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the
> >>partition.
> >>
> >>I had this happen a number of years ago.  We had dirty power and the 
> >>system
> >>would reboot on occasion during brownout.  We finally got UPS on the 
> >>system,
> >>but months later we had files that wouldn't delete.  The only way we 
> >>finally
> >>got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck.  I expect the disk
> >>suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took time
> >>before we noticed.
> >>
> >>Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the files 
> >>open.
> >>
> >>HTH.
> >>
> >>--
> >>Bill Moran
> >>
> >
> >Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very mysteries.
> >A free cigar to anyone who solves this one!
> >
> 
> Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2 files, I 
> tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a solution IF I could 
> only do that.
> 
> Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/" to /usr
> 
> mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link
> 
> Does this new hint stike any bells?
> 
> THX
> Jack
> 
Hi,

Since you can move the directory can you move (rename) the file?
If you can mv just the files can you access/modify the files?

Because of the cross-device link error message maybe this is hard link
related?  Any files with the same name floating around?  Obviously this
isn't normal hard link behaviour but maybe a link was somehow damaged?


Best Regards,

Duane Whitty
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Re: Removing Port Directories

[Alex de Kruijff]

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 01:05:21PM -0500, Jacob Jennings wrote:
> I was wondering if there is a way to remove unwanted port directories
> such as /usr/ports/biology, /usr/ports/astro, etc. without the system
> coughing a hairball, or could I just manually delete them with a "rm
> -fR"?

You could do a 'rm -fR' relatively safely. Many port rely on other
ports. If these live in the the categories you have removed then
upgrading or installing these port could fail. This is nothing critical
and you should be able to fix this later.
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Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply.

Howtos based on my personal use, including information about 
setting up a firewall and creating traffic graphs with MRTG
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Resizing Windows partitions ( was: Re: mount windows xp )

[Lorin Lund]

Garrett Cooper wrote:
...

Good luck, and if you need to resize some Windows partitions look  
into partition magic.

-Garrett


If your budget doesn't allow for partition magic you might try Boot It 
NG from

http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/


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Re: FreeBSD and newer HDD problems ?

[Nikolas Britton]

On 6/4/06, Pavel Duda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I've forgot to add that system is FreeBSD 6.0 (no custom kernel), P4
1.8GHz, 384MB RAM, Realtek gigabit NIC (8169), Intel EE NIC 10/100mbit.



What SATA controller are you using?, and have you tried this with
FreeBSD 6.1? if not you should.


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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

[Nikolas Britton]

On 6/4/06, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link

Does this new hint stike any bells?



http://groups.google.com/groups/search?q=group%3A%2A.freebsd.%2A+%22terminated+with+1+%28non-zero%29+status%3A+Cross-device+link%22&qt_s=Search

If that doesn't help try using a hammer :-)


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Re: Apache22 + PHP5 installation issues

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php 5.1.4 seems currently broken. try portdowngrade to the last 5.1.2 port.

Iv.

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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

[Garrett Cooper]

On Jun 4, 2006, at 12:57 PM, Jack Stone wrote:


From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500


From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400

"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:
> >
> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >>Here are the files and the error message:
> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not  
permitted
> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not  
permitted

> >
> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:
> >
> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm
> >
> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the  
flag would

> >be set, but it's something to try.
> >
> >HTH.
> >
> >--
> >Chris Hill   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!

If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should  
delete, and
they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and  
fsck the

partition.

I had this happen a number of years ago.  We had dirty power and  
the system
would reboot on occasion during brownout.  We finally got UPS on  
the system,
but months later we had files that wouldn't delete.  The only way  
we finally
got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck.  I expect  
the disk
suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it  
took time

before we noticed.

Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the  
files open.


HTH.

--
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Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very  
mysteries.

A free cigar to anyone who solves this one!



Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2  
files, I tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a  
solution IF I could only do that.


Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/"  
to /usr


mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link

Does this new hint stike any bells?

THX
Jack


	I assume that you tried deleting this as root? Sometimes files have  
been resistant to my deleting them unless I am root, even when I'm  
the owner.
	Have you also tried doing something to the file to write to it, like  
cat or echo? My theory is that maybe if you did that then tried to  
delete the file, it will work because you flushed the previous  
information and closed the file properly.

Best of luck,
-Garrett
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Re: mount windows xp

[Garrett Cooper]

On Jun 4, 2006, at 12:58 PM, Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:



Hi, thank you guys so much for the answer, I use mount_ntfs and now
it's okay. But.. I want to move a file from freebsd disk to xp disk,
as root. i cd to where I want to file to go e.g. /mnt/My
Doument.../here, then run mv /path/to/file .
it gives: ./xxx no such file or directory

?? what now??

p.s. i tried copy and it's the same..

many thanks!!

TFC



Welcome to the wonderful world of sharing a partition between 2 OSes.  
Basically, the only filesystem you can use for sharing data read/ 
write between Windows and Unix is FAT32. It's just that Windows  
doesn't really have any promising read/write capable drivers (there's  
an ext2/3 driver, but that still is kind of iffy), and Unix doesn't  
have true NTFS write support (Linux is the closest to having true  
NTFS write support, IIRC). So, that leaves you with FAT32, which can  
only be created in 32GB partitions, because of the file data size  
limitations (32 bit ints I believe?).
	Good luck, and if you need to resize some Windows partitions look  
into partition magic.

-Garrett
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Re: mount windows xp

[Tsu-Fan Cheng]

Hi, thank you guys so much for the answer, I use mount_ntfs and now
it's okay. But.. I want to move a file from freebsd disk to xp disk,
as root. i cd to where I want to file to go e.g. /mnt/My
Doument.../here, then run mv /path/to/file .
it gives: ./xxx no such file or directory

?? what now??

p.s. i tried copy and it's the same..

many thanks!!

TFC



On 6/3/06, Tsu-Fan Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

hi,
  i have a problem when trying to mount windows xp disk, I have
freebsd6.1/amd64 on a SATA and wondows xp on a 80gb regular ATA disk
separatly. I boot into freebsd and under /dev, it shows:
ad0
ad0s1
ad4
 ad4s1

...
ad0 is the win$$ disk and ad4 is fbsd disk. I use mount_msdosfs /dev/ad0s1
/mnt
it gives:
Invalid argument
i heard something about not being to mount a disk too big, so I put the
"MSDOSFS_LARGE" option in my kernel config, sitll no use. any idea??
thanks!!

TFC


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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files - New Hint

[Jack Stone]

From: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:52:01 -0500


From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400

"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:
> >
> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >>Here are the files and the error message:
> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not 
permitted

> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted
> >
> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:
> >
> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm
> >
> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag 
would

> >be set, but it's something to try.
> >
> >HTH.
> >
> >--
> >Chris Hill   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!

If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, and
they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the
partition.

I had this happen a number of years ago.  We had dirty power and the 
system
would reboot on occasion during brownout.  We finally got UPS on the 
system,
but months later we had files that wouldn't delete.  The only way we 
finally

got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck.  I expect the disk
suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took time
before we noticed.

Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the files 
open.


HTH.

--
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Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very mysteries.
A free cigar to anyone who solves this one!



Since I learned I could "mv" the directory that contains the 2 files, I 
tried to move it to another partition, figuring I had a solution IF I could 
only do that.


Here's the new error when I tried to move the directory from "/" to /usr

mv: /bin/rm: terminated with 1 (non-zero) status: Cross-device link

Does this new hint stike any bells?

THX
Jack

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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Jack Stone]

From: Bill Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 14:40:22 -0400

"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:
> >
> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >>Here are the files and the error message:
> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not 
permitted

> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted
> >
> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:
> >
> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm
> >
> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag 
would

> >be set, but it's something to try.
> >
> >HTH.
> >
> >--
> >Chris Hill   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!

If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, and
they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the
partition.

I had this happen a number of years ago.  We had dirty power and the system
would reboot on occasion during brownout.  We finally got UPS on the 
system,
but months later we had files that wouldn't delete.  The only way we 
finally

got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck.  I expect the disk
suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took time
before we noticed.

Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the files 
open.


HTH.

--
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Hi, Bill: Yes, tried all of that before and again no joy -- very mysteries.
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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Jack Stone]

From: Lowell Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 12:53:03 -0400

"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
>>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
>>
>>On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:
>>
>>>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>Here are the files and the error message:
>>>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not permitted
>>>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted
>>
>>Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:
>>
>># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
>># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm
>>
>> ...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag
>> would be set, but it's something to try.
>>
>>HTH.
>>
>>--
>>Chris Hill   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!

There are other flags.  Use "ls -lo" to see if any are set, rather
trying to reset them and then retrying the delete command.


Indeed, tried that early on and see no flags set at all.

THX
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Re: Ask a Question

[Lisandro Grullon]

Hi Kevin,
After going through all my options with the areca 1120, the solution was
easy and at the same time hard for someone new to FreeBSD. The card works
100% with freeBSD 6.1, the only thing I needed to do was upgrade to the
latest firmware from the website. Specifically the one that you guys are
beta testing dated "5/26/2006 2:15:00 PM" you might want to tell all your
comstomers using this card with FreeBSD to upgrade to the latest firmware if
they are having issues. Thank you again for e-mailing back and forward,
again this is not a FreeBSD bug, it appears to be a firmware bug that is
fixed in your latest "Beta" firmware.

Your FreeBSd user,

Lisandro Grullon

On 5/29/06, Areca Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Dear Sir,

as we known, our controller driver had been buildin from FreeBSD 5.4, and
6.0 also. so we didn't make new installation disk for FreeBSD after that.

and regarding the firmware changes, normally we will added these changes
into the firmware released note.
for the Beta version, because we are testing it still, so we didn't upload
changes to avoid confusion.
i will forward your comment to our engineers, thanks for your suggestion.

and regarding the AMD64 FreeBSD 6.1 installation. after kernel loaded, and
system shows no hard disk for installation.
could you please switch to console, and do a dmesg to check the driver
status ?
does our driver module loaded ? any error message on the driver ?

we had tested FreeBSD 6.1 i386 edition before, it had buildin our
controller driver, no additional driver disk needed. but we didn't verifyed
AMD64 edition, i will ask our testing to verify it.


Best Regards,


Kevin Wang

Areca Technology Tech-support Division
Tel : 886-2-87974060 Ext. 223
Fax : 886-2-87975970
Http://www.areca.com.tw 
Ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw 

- Original Message -
*From:* Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* Areca Support <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2006 10:14 PM
*Subject:* Re: Ask a Question

I am about to flahs the firmware of this board, maybe that would fix the
problem;however, I would recoemend that your evelopment team post, what
these two firmware version are all about. What I mean is what changes happen
in each of the two version that you guys are currently beta testing. Bellow
is the link.

ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw/RaidCards/BIOS_Firmware/ARC1120/Beta



On 5/26/06, Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Your website doesn't mention anything about supporting FreeBSD 6.0,
> what's the status on those drivers. The freeBSd community would really like
> to see some drivers supporting the current Release of FreeBSD.  A lot of my
> collegues are just waiting for the driver release before they make their
> purchase, can you elaborate on this. Lisandro
>
>  On 5/24/06, Areca Support < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dear Sir,
> >
> > This is Kevin Wang from Areca Technology, Tech-Support Team.
> > regarding your problem, it looks like a FreeBSD bug, here is a
> > discussion i
> > found in google :
> > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=429394
> >
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> >
> > Kevin Wang
> >
> > Areca Technology Tech-support Division
> > Tel : 886-2-87974060 Ext. 223
> > Fax : 886-2-87975970
> > Http://www.areca.com.tw
> > Ftp://ftp.areca.com.tw
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Lisandro Grullon" < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:14 PM
> > Subject: Ask a Question
> >
> >
> > > Your name : Lisandro Grullon
> > > YourEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Category : PCI SATA ll RAID controller
> > > Model name : Areca 1120
> > > Firmware Version : V1.39
> > > Disk Vendor : Seagate
> > > Disk model : ST3300822AS
> > > Disk Firmware Version :
> > > HBA Vendor :
> > > HBA Model Name :
> > > Motherboard Vendor : Tyan
> > > Motherboard Model name : S2885
> > > Motherboard BIOS Version : Latest
> > > Your Question : I am having a problem configuring the controller in
> > > FreeBSD 6.1. It all works out ok, the OS detects the card and I use
> > the
> > > drivers you supply in the website. The only problem is that when I
> > try
> > > creating the partition using the fdisk/label from sysinstall I am
> > getting
> > > a "disk geometry" error. Aparently the geometry is not correct, if
> > there a
> > > way that I could check the geometry of the volume/drive that are
> > attach to
> > > the controller, please let me know.
> > >
> > > Your Cumstomer,
> > > Lisandro Grullon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
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> Division of Continuing Education
> Director of Network Operations
> Lisandro Office:1718-552-1178
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>



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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Jack Stone]

From: "Ricardo Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:39:05 -0300

This occurred to me once, I simply booted the system in single user mode 
and

removed the file.



Nope, that didn't work either. really strangest undeletes I've ever 
encounted.


THX
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Re: docs/98344: [patch] An update of the article "Choosing the FreeBSD Version that is Right for You"

[Duane Whitty]

On Fri, Jun 02, 2006 at 02:10:08AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thank you very much for your problem report.
> It has the internal identification `docs/98344'.
> The individual assigned to look at your
> report is: freebsd-doc. 
> 
> You can access the state of your problem report at any time
> via this link:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=98344
> 
> >Category:   docs
> >Responsible:freebsd-doc
> >Synopsis:   [patch] An update of the article "Choosing the FreeBSD 
> >Version that is Right for You"
> >Arrival-Date:   Fri Jun 02 02:10:08 GMT 2006

Hi,

If anyone is interested in taking a look at the article [1]
I finally submitted it is posted on my site along with the
diff [2], as per the above PR.  This is a merge of my article
that only covered version labels with the existing article
"Choosing the FreeBSD Version that is Right for You". I botched
the link to the patch in the PR (forgot the colon in http://, sorry)

[1]Choosing the FreeBSD Version that is Right for You
http://www.dwlabs.ca/freebsd/docs/version-guide/article.html

[2]version-guide.diff

http://www.dwlabs.ca/freebsd/docs/version-guide/version-guide.diff

As always I look forward to any constructive feedback should anyone have
the time and desire to give some.  That goes for both the article and
the actual PR (I've never submitted a PR for something like this before).

Sincerely,

Duane Whitty
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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Bill Moran]

"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
> >Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:
> >
> >>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.
> >
> >[...]
> >
> >>Here are the files and the error message:
> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not permitted
> >>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted
> >
> >Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:
> >
> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
> ># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm
> >
> >...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag would 
> >be set, but it's something to try.
> >
> >HTH.
> >
> >--
> >Chris Hill   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!

If flags and permissions are all set so that the files should delete, and
they still don't, reboot the system into single user mode and fsck the
partition.

I had this happen a number of years ago.  We had dirty power and the system
would reboot on occasion during brownout.  We finally got UPS on the system,
but months later we had files that wouldn't delete.  The only way we finally
got rid of them was to reboot in single user and fsck.  I expect the disk
suffered some subtle corruption during an unclean boot and it took time
before we noticed.

Another option would be to use fstat to make sure nothing has the files open.

HTH.

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Re: Removing Port Directories

[Mikhail Goriachev]

Jacob Jennings wrote:
> I was wondering if there is a way to remove unwanted port directories
> such as /usr/ports/biology, /usr/ports/astro, etc. without the system
> coughing a hairball, or could I just manually delete them with a "rm
> -fR"?


I guess you could. Make sure you don't re-fetch them when you cvsup port
collection. For more info consult:

/usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile


You could also investigate /usr/ports/misc/porteasy


Cheers,
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Re: FreeBSD and newer HDD problems ?

[Mikhail Goriachev]

Pavel Duda wrote:
>>
>> Currently there are a few active threads related to similar issues
>> (controllers and their drivers). You might be interested in following
>> them:
>>
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-June/123577.html
>>
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-June/123588.html
>>
>> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-June/123673.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mikhail.
>>
> 
> Hmmm so how you explain that with Debian system on SAME machine I'm ABLE
> to get transfer speeds about 10MB/s ?? Or do you mean I can't go faster
> with FreeBSD and only solution is switch to Linux ??


I'd blame drivers. The other question I won't answer, but you might find
  explanation by following the threads I gave you. Apparently, there are
some issues with some controllers and their drivers.


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Removing Port Directories

[Jacob Jennings]

I was wondering if there is a way to remove unwanted port directories
such as /usr/ports/biology, /usr/ports/astro, etc. without the system
coughing a hairball, or could I just manually delete them with a "rm
-fR"?
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Re: mount windows xp

[Atanas Atanasov]

My appologies, you are right. However if ntfs is not loaded then
mount_ntfs loads it automatically so he doesn't need to worry about
anything - just write mount_ntfs /dev/... ... and ready.

Atanas
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Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?

[Mikhail Goriachev]

Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
> On Sunday 04 June 2006 12:19, Nikolas Britton wrote:
>> On 6/4/06, Jonathan Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system
>>> where the port had never been previously installed?
> 
> No, you can't.
> 
>> Yes... but what's the point?... when you can make your own packages.
>> instead of typing 'make install' type 'make package', this will spit
>> out a .tbz file you can use with pkg_add etc...
>> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html
> 
> Now, this is what I do, except do it "make package-recursive", that way 
> you get any packages that have been installed as requirements.
> 
> Be sure to do "mkdir /usr/ports/packages", otherwise, the packages 
> you're making are going to be stored in the individual port. If you 
> have /usr/ports/packages, they'll be stored in one location that you 
> can copy elsewhere, cd or dvd for instance.

You could also use pkg_create.

man pkg_create

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Re: FreeBSD and newer HDD problems ?

[Pavel Duda]

Mikhail Goriachev wrote:

Pavel Duda wrote:


Hello,
I've recently bought new big HDD (WDC RE, 320GB) and it looks like
FreeBSD has some troubles with it when trying to transfer files over
network.

If I try to perform some "synthetic" test like 'dd if=/dev/zero
of=/wdc320/testfile' then I get some decent speeds about 40MB/s. When I
try to copy some big files from my older disk (IBM 40GB) I still have
write about 25-27MB/s.

Problem comes when I try to copy something to disk over network (tried
samba, ftp) disk write speed is very low - about 5-6MB/s at max.
When testing this issue I've start 'systat -vmstat 1' and noticed that
my new disk is very busy (60-100%) and speed (MB/s) jumps up and down.
If I write files with 'dd' or transfer them from disk 2 disk then write
speed and disk load is almost constant (about 60%). When transfering
files over network to old HDD then disk load is low (40-50%) and speed
is constant (8-9MB/s).

To be sure that disk it is not some kind of disk problem I've installed
Debian 3.1r2 with same version of samba and I get 9-11MB/s transfer
speeds (in both directions) !!

Also it doesn't matter if I use transfer data over gigabit card or
100mbit card. Results are similar. FreeBSD is in avarage very very slow
(3MB) while Debian works fine (10MB). Because my server is primarily
used for transfer files (Samba + PDC) it is crucial for me to have
highest transfer speeds possible and I'd like to stick with FreeBSD :-/.

Does someone has any idea what could be wrong or how could I determine
what causes this problem ?




Hi,

This effect is normal since you're transferring files over relatively
slow network. The speed through 100Mb/s Ethernet will be around 5 or
6MB/s and probably you can't go any faster due to your hardware
limitations (switch, cables, processor, controllers and especially their
drivers).

Currently there are a few active threads related to similar issues
(controllers and their drivers). You might be interested in following them:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-June/123577.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-June/123588.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-June/123673.html


Cheers,
Mikhail.



Hmmm so how you explain that with Debian system on SAME machine I'm ABLE 
to get transfer speeds about 10MB/s ?? Or do you mean I can't go faster 
with FreeBSD and only solution is switch to Linux ??


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Re: FreeBSD and newer HDD problems ?

[Mikhail Goriachev]

Pavel Duda wrote:
> Hello,
> I've recently bought new big HDD (WDC RE, 320GB) and it looks like
> FreeBSD has some troubles with it when trying to transfer files over
> network.
> 
> If I try to perform some "synthetic" test like 'dd if=/dev/zero
> of=/wdc320/testfile' then I get some decent speeds about 40MB/s. When I
> try to copy some big files from my older disk (IBM 40GB) I still have
> write about 25-27MB/s.
> 
> Problem comes when I try to copy something to disk over network (tried
> samba, ftp) disk write speed is very low - about 5-6MB/s at max.
> When testing this issue I've start 'systat -vmstat 1' and noticed that
> my new disk is very busy (60-100%) and speed (MB/s) jumps up and down.
> If I write files with 'dd' or transfer them from disk 2 disk then write
> speed and disk load is almost constant (about 60%). When transfering
> files over network to old HDD then disk load is low (40-50%) and speed
> is constant (8-9MB/s).
> 
> To be sure that disk it is not some kind of disk problem I've installed
> Debian 3.1r2 with same version of samba and I get 9-11MB/s transfer
> speeds (in both directions) !!
> 
> Also it doesn't matter if I use transfer data over gigabit card or
> 100mbit card. Results are similar. FreeBSD is in avarage very very slow
> (3MB) while Debian works fine (10MB). Because my server is primarily
> used for transfer files (Samba + PDC) it is crucial for me to have
> highest transfer speeds possible and I'd like to stick with FreeBSD :-/.
> 
> Does someone has any idea what could be wrong or how could I determine
> what causes this problem ?
> 

Hi,

This effect is normal since you're transferring files over relatively
slow network. The speed through 100Mb/s Ethernet will be around 5 or
6MB/s and probably you can't go any faster due to your hardware
limitations (switch, cables, processor, controllers and especially their
drivers).

Currently there are a few active threads related to similar issues
(controllers and their drivers). You might be interested in following them:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-June/123577.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-June/123588.html
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-June/123673.html


Cheers,
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Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?

[Donald J. O'Neill]

On Sunday 04 June 2006 12:19, Nikolas Britton wrote:
> On 6/4/06, Jonathan Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system
> > where the port had never been previously installed?
>

No, you can't.

> Yes... but what's the point?... when you can make your own packages.
> instead of typing 'make install' type 'make package', this will spit
> out a .tbz file you can use with pkg_add etc...
> http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html

Now, this is what I do, except do it "make package-recursive", that way 
you get any packages that have been installed as requirements.

Be sure to do "mkdir /usr/ports/packages", otherwise, the packages 
you're making are going to be stored in the individual port. If you 
have /usr/ports/packages, they'll be stored in one location that you 
can copy elsewhere, cd or dvd for instance.

Don
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Re: how to instaal

[Ricardo Carvalho]

There is a mailing list dedicated to alpha: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 6/4/06, dezwarte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Dear,



I have buy last a alphaserver800 5/400 so I like to learn freebsd and how
it works.

But it is all new for me so I want to instaal it on my new machine.

Is there enyody who can give me some examples "how to install" it on a
alphaserver800





Thanks



Regards erwin

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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Ricardo Carvalho]

This occurred to me once, I simply booted the system in single user mode and
removed the file.

On 6/4/06, Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hello:
I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them. I can even move
them
to another directory, but still cannot delete. Can chmod too, but still
same
resistance;

I originally figured they occupied a bad spot on the HD, but now not sure
about that.

Please, any suggestions about what to do to remove these files?

Here are the files and the error message:
rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not permitted
rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted

I've gone all the way down to the last dir and tried to delete them there.
No joy!
All directories in between only include the dirs and no files. I want to
delete the entire path of directories, but those 2 stubborn files will not
permit that.

rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys: Directory not empty

Please, any help appreciated!

Thank you,
Jack L Stone.

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how to instaal

[dezwarte]

Dear,

 

 I have buy last a alphaserver800 5/400 so I like to learn freebsd and how
it works.

But it is all new for me so I want to instaal it on my new machine.

Is there enyody who can give me some examples "how to install" it on a
alphaserver800

 

 

Thanks

 

Regards erwin

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Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?

[Nikolas Britton]

On 6/4/06, Jonathan Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system where the
port had never been previously installed?



Yes... but what's the point?... when you can make your own packages.
instead of typing 'make install' type 'make package', this will spit
out a .tbz file you can use with pkg_add etc...
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2003/08/07/FreeBSD_Basics.html



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Re: n00b question again

[Pete C]

Quoting Vitaly D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


From: Pete C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: freebsd 
Subject: Re: n00b question again
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:28:44 -0400

Quoting dharam paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


No Sir, the freebsd machine is an independent machine
, intext mode only and is meant for only serving
internet to the windows machines. Yahoo messenger is
not installed on this machine.



guessing . . . but most (nOOb) gateway machines use 192.168.1.1 . . .



what should use a not noob gateway machine ?




192.168.1.1 is OK . . . I was just guessing that this is what was used  
(could have been different), and that the 192.168.1.14 he mentioned  
was not the gateway machine, but another computer behind the gateway .  
. .


Pete C

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Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?

[Jonathan Horne]

On Sunday 04 June 2006 11:46, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Jonathan Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > i have a system that i tend to tear up quite often.  sometimes
> > accidently, sometimes not.  recompiling kde is quite a long process (and
> > when i try to do it from packages, something is always messed up).
> >
> > so, i was under the impression that if you *did not* make install clean
> > (thus, only using 'make clean') and save your work directories, then when
> > it came time to reinstall something, you would not have to go thru the
> > compile process, and skip straight to the installation?
> >
> > example is, last night i compiled xorg from ports, but then tried to
> > (against my better judgement) pull down kde from packages.  utter
> > catastrophe, after removing the non-working kde-package, kde3 port would
> > not even compile after that.  anyway, long story short, i backed up
> > my /usr/ports, /usr/src, /usr/obj, and reinstalled.  using my restored
> > backup files, reapplying my old kernel and installworld went just without
> > issue, i skipped the buildworld and buildkernel just fine, no hitches. 
> > but when i went to reinstall the xorg from last night (all the work
> > directories were still there), 'make install' returned no output, and
> > nothing happened.  what gives?
>
> "make reinstall".  See "man ports".
>
> > i ended up having to do a make clean on my ports dir before i could
> > continue. in the future for me, is there a way to proeperly retain all
> > the precompiled stuff, and just skip right to the installation portion of
> > my previously compiled ports?
>
> I would tend to build your own packages, and keep them around.  Then
> you can reinstlal them easily.

ah, thank you for your reply... i finally exhale while waiting in anticpation!

so, could i theoretically use 'make reinstall' on a fresh system where the 
port had never been previously installed?  im trying to build my system using 
the minimal install, and then recover my previous /boot /usr/src /usr/obj 
(then make installworld etc), then turn to my recovered /usr/ports and just 
begin installing previously compiled applications.

thanks,
jonathan
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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Jack Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
>>Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)
>>
>>On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:
>>
>>>I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>Here are the files and the error message:
>>>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not permitted
>>>rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted
>>
>>Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:
>>
>># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
>># chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm
>>
>> ...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag
>> would be set, but it's something to try.
>>
>>HTH.
>>
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>
> Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!

There are other flags.  Use "ls -lo" to see if any are set, rather
trying to reset them and then retrying the delete command.
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Re: Video capture/editing?

[Mark Kane]

On Sun, Jun 04, 2006, at 06:51:05 -0500, Laurence Sanford wrote:
> Some time ago I purchased a Pinnacle video capture/editing package to
> be used on a windows computer. Honestly, this is the last thing I
> keep a windows computer around for. The capture setup is a PCI card
> with a breakout unit on it, the editing software, obviously Studio. A
> number of things have driven me to the point where I simply cannot
> stand the windows/Pinnacle setup any more, mostly a lack of stability.

I know what you mean here. After building new machines with fast
hardware, reinstalling Windows, and not even having that many programs
installed or running...it would freeze up, be slow after a week, have
the explorer.exe constantly crashing, etc. I couldn't reboot every
week, so I finally switched to FreeBSD on the desktop and everything is
going great.

> Looking through the ports collection I found avidemux2 and kino. What
> I need to know is this - will one of these two programs replace the
> basic editing functionality of pinnacle for me, and can I use the
> same capture hardware? I suspect the capture hardware will be an
> issue, but I'm certainly open to suggestions. Thanks in advance for
> any input.

I use Avidemux2 on a daily basis for converting video files. It's
awesome for converting and setting simple in/out points in a clip, but
it doesn't have the functionality of a timeline or effects, etc. You
can load in another clip and "append" it to the current one and then
export it to whatever format though.

I have not been able to try Kino yet. For some reason,
whenever I start it, I get: 

(kino:8760): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_move: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW
(window)' failed

...and the program never starts. I've contacted them about it, but the
developers were not sure. It could be that I'm running the amd64
version of FreeBSD, and it may work fine in i386.

There are a couple other programs you might want to look into --
multimedia/jahshaka and multimedia/pitivi. I've used Jahshaka 1.9a9 from
ports and it's not the easiest to use nor the most stable, although
the functionality looks great. They have an updated 2.0 RC3 on their
site for which the screenshots look amazing, however it's still an RC
so it's not been updated in ports yet (and it seems to be a hard one
to compile yourself). I have not tried Pitivi.

On the hardware, I'm not sure if it would work. I do most of my
capturing on the one non-FreeBSD machine I have left -- a Mac with
Final Cut Pro. However, I have been able to capture directly from my
Canon GL-2 via Firewire on my FreeBSD machine using fwcontrol(8). From
there, I take the .dv file, run it through ffmpeg to output it to a
format that Avidemux2 can load, and then use Avidemux2 to export that
further or do basic cuts.

I suggest trying them all and seeing what works best for you. :)

Hope that helps.

-Mark

P.S. There is one other editor that looks amazing, however it has
not been ported to FreeBSD yet (and I can't get it to compile either).
It's called Cinelerra:  http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php3

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Re: mount windows xp

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Atanas Atanasov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If you are using a GENERIC kernel, then ntfs is built in the kernel.

No, it's not, in 6.1 at least.  
I don't recall that it ever was in the past, either.
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Re: how to avoid recompiling applications?

[Lowell Gilbert]

Jonathan Horne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> i have a system that i tend to tear up quite often.  sometimes accidently, 
> sometimes not.  recompiling kde is quite a long process (and when i try to do 
> it from packages, something is always messed up).
>
> so, i was under the impression that if you *did not* make install clean 
> (thus, 
> only using 'make clean') and save your work directories, then when it came 
> time to reinstall something, you would not have to go thru the compile 
> process, and skip straight to the installation?
>
> example is, last night i compiled xorg from ports, but then tried to (against 
> my better judgement) pull down kde from packages.  utter catastrophe, after 
> removing the non-working kde-package, kde3 port would not even compile after 
> that.  anyway, long story short, i backed up 
> my /usr/ports, /usr/src, /usr/obj, and reinstalled.  using my restored backup 
> files, reapplying my old kernel and installworld went just without issue, i 
> skipped the buildworld and buildkernel just fine, no hitches.  but when i 
> went to reinstall the xorg from last night (all the work directories were 
> still there), 'make install' returned no output, and nothing happened.  what 
> gives?

"make reinstall".  See "man ports".

> i ended up having to do a make clean on my ports dir before i could continue. 
>  
> in the future for me, is there a way to proeperly retain all the precompiled 
> stuff, and just skip right to the installation portion of my previously 
> compiled ports?

I would tend to build your own packages, and keep them around.  Then
you can reinstlal them easily.
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Re: n00b question again

[Vitaly D]

From: Pete C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: freebsd 
Subject: Re: n00b question again
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 11:28:44 -0400

Quoting dharam paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


No Sir, the freebsd machine is an independent machine
, intext mode only and is meant for only serving
internet to the windows machines. Yahoo messenger is
not installed on this machine.



guessing . . . but most (nOOb) gateway machines use 192.168.1.1 . . .



what should use a not noob gateway machine ?

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Re: FreeBSD and newer HDD problems ?

[Pavel Duda]

Pavel Duda wrote:

Hello,
I've recently bought new big HDD (WDC RE, 320GB) and it looks like 
FreeBSD has some troubles with it when trying to transfer files over 
network.


If I try to perform some "synthetic" test like 'dd if=/dev/zero 
of=/wdc320/testfile' then I get some decent speeds about 40MB/s. When I 
try to copy some big files from my older disk (IBM 40GB) I still have 
write about 25-27MB/s.


Problem comes when I try to copy something to disk over network (tried 
samba, ftp) disk write speed is very low - about 5-6MB/s at max.
When testing this issue I've start 'systat -vmstat 1' and noticed that 
my new disk is very busy (60-100%) and speed (MB/s) jumps up and down. 
If I write files with 'dd' or transfer them from disk 2 disk then write 
speed and disk load is almost constant (about 60%). When transfering 
files over network to old HDD then disk load is low (40-50%) and speed 
is constant (8-9MB/s).


To be sure that disk it is not some kind of disk problem I've installed 
Debian 3.1r2 with same version of samba and I get 9-11MB/s transfer 
speeds (in both directions) !!


Also it doesn't matter if I use transfer data over gigabit card or 
100mbit card. Results are similar. FreeBSD is in avarage very very slow 
(3MB) while Debian works fine (10MB). Because my server is primarily 
used for transfer files (Samba + PDC) it is crucial for me to have 
highest transfer speeds possible and I'd like to stick with FreeBSD :-/.


Does someone has any idea what could be wrong or how could I determine 
what causes this problem ?


Thanks for any advice.
Pavel

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I've forgot to add that system is FreeBSD 6.0 (no custom kernel), P4 
1.8GHz, 384MB RAM, Realtek gigabit NIC (8169), Intel EE NIC 10/100mbit.



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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[David J Brooks]

On Sunday 04 June 2006 08:11, Jack Stone wrote:
> Hello:
> I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them. I can even move
> them to another directory, but still cannot delete. Can chmod too, but
> still same resistance;
>
> I originally figured they occupied a bad spot on the HD, but now not sure
> about that.
>
> Please, any suggestions about what to do to remove these files?
>
> Here are the files and the error message:
> rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not permitted
> rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted
>
> I've gone all the way down to the last dir and tried to delete them there.
> No joy!
> All directories in between only include the dirs and no files. I want to
> delete the entire path of directories, but those 2 stubborn files will not
> permit that.
>
> rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys: Directory not empty
>
> Please, any help appreciated!

I had a similar problem recently with some a directory created on the fly by 
ktorrent. Everytime I tried to delete them they would appear in the trashcan, 
I would flush them, and sooner or later the directory and all its files would 
be right back where they started.

I finally noticed that they reappeared everytime I restarted ktorrent. So I 
went poking under the hood and found a reference to them in deep down in 
~/.kde/share/apps/ktorrent/cache folder. Apparently ktorrent was recreating 
empty files in anticipation of downloading a torrent that was no longer in 
the queue. 

Perhaps something similar is going on with your machine?

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FreeBSD and newer HDD problems ?

[Pavel Duda]

Hello,
I've recently bought new big HDD (WDC RE, 320GB) and it looks like 
FreeBSD has some troubles with it when trying to transfer files over 
network.


If I try to perform some "synthetic" test like 'dd if=/dev/zero 
of=/wdc320/testfile' then I get some decent speeds about 40MB/s. When I 
try to copy some big files from my older disk (IBM 40GB) I still have 
write about 25-27MB/s.


Problem comes when I try to copy something to disk over network (tried 
samba, ftp) disk write speed is very low - about 5-6MB/s at max.
When testing this issue I've start 'systat -vmstat 1' and noticed that 
my new disk is very busy (60-100%) and speed (MB/s) jumps up and down. 
If I write files with 'dd' or transfer them from disk 2 disk then write 
speed and disk load is almost constant (about 60%). When transfering 
files over network to old HDD then disk load is low (40-50%) and speed 
is constant (8-9MB/s).


To be sure that disk it is not some kind of disk problem I've installed 
Debian 3.1r2 with same version of samba and I get 9-11MB/s transfer 
speeds (in both directions) !!


Also it doesn't matter if I use transfer data over gigabit card or 
100mbit card. Results are similar. FreeBSD is in avarage very very slow 
(3MB) while Debian works fine (10MB). Because my server is primarily 
used for transfer files (Samba + PDC) it is crucial for me to have 
highest transfer speeds possible and I'd like to stick with FreeBSD :-/.


Does someone has any idea what could be wrong or how could I determine 
what causes this problem ?


Thanks for any advice.
Pavel

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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Jack Stone]

From: Chris Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:39:51 -0400 (EDT)

On Sun, 4 Jun 2006, Jack Stone wrote:


I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them.


[...]


Here are the files and the error message:
rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not permitted
rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted


Make sure the files do not have the system immutable flag set:

# chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm
# chflags noschg local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm

...and then see if you can't delete them. I don't know why the flag would 
be set, but it's something to try.


HTH.

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Chris: Tried that at the very first. No joy!

THX
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Re: Cannot delete stubborn files

[Jack Stone]

From: Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Cannot delete stubborn files
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 09:17:09 -0400 (EDT)


--- Jack Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello:
> I have 2 files that resists all efforts to delete them. I can even
> move them
> to another directory, but still cannot delete. Can chmod too, but
> still same
> resistance;
>
> I originally figured they occupied a bad spot on the HD, but now not
> sure
> about that.
>
> Please, any suggestions about what to do to remove these files?
>
> Here are the files and the error message:
> rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Hostname.pm: Operation not
> permitted
> rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys/Syslog.pm: Operation not permitted
>
> I've gone all the way down to the last dir and tried to delete them
> there.
> No joy!
> All directories in between only include the dirs and no files. I want
> to
> delete the entire path of directories, but those 2 stubborn files
> will not
> permit that.
>
> rm: local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys: Directory not empty

Try:

# rm -rf local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/mach/Sys



Peter: That's among the first thigs tried, at all levels -- no joy!

The problem seems to be the *.pm files at the end of the path. Once they can 
be deleted, then all dirs should then go.


THX
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Re: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the 8237R?

[Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC]

On Jun 4, 2006, at 9:25 AM, Danial Thom wrote:


The
seemingly tiny different between gigabit and
100Mb/s speeds could be the difference between
the window staying open or the process going to
sleep.
.


Or the fact that they are on 32bit/33mhz pci busses instead of faster  
busses.


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Re: freesd boxes refusing scp and sftp?

[Jonathan Horne]

On Sunday 04 June 2006 10:03, Benjamin Lutz wrote:
> On Sunday 04 June 2006 16:45, Jonathan Horne wrote:
> > my freebsd boxes are refusing connections (or erroring them out, im not
> > sure which it is at this time).  when i try to scp a file or make a sftp
> > connection, this is what i get:
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sftp tyche
> > Connecting to tyche...
> > Password:
> > Received message too long 538976288
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
> >
> > i get something similar (yet equally aggravating!) when i scp too.  can
> > someone point me in the right direction here?
>
> For scp and sftp to work, the machine must not print anything at login
> time. So if you, say, have your machine print a fortune cookie at login,
> you need to disable that.
>
> Cheers
> Benjamin

ohhh.  well that explains it... i was having my .bashrc give me a 
'cal' upon login.  i guess ill take that off :)

thanks!
jonathan
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Re: n00b question again

[Pete C]

Quoting dharam paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


No Sir, the freebsd machine is an independent machine
, intext mode only and is meant for only serving
internet to the windows machines. Yahoo messenger is
not installed on this machine.



guessing . . . but most (nOOb) gateway machines use 192.168.1.1 . . .

. . . is one of the internal boxes (192.168.1.14) running yahoo  
messenger ? ? ?


Pete C


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Re: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the 8237R?

[Danial Thom]

I would guess the gigabit switch vs my cheapo
100Mb/s switch would make that sort of
difference. You have to do the test with the same
hardware, same server, same switches otherwise
you have no relative comparision that's valid.
The server could make a huge difference also. Ftp
servers are kind of kludgy in the way that they
decide on how to dispatch packets. I'd guess that
if you put an intel card into the box you'd get
similar relative differences in throughput.

Its not a good test anyway, but you have to
simplify things for jerry and the gang. A better
way to test is to generate a consistent load and
look at CPU usage. The efficiency of the server,
windowing, etc will all affect an FTP transfer
too much to use it as a complete test. The
seemingly tiny different between gigabit and
100Mb/s speeds could be the difference between
the window staying open or the process going to
sleep.
.

--- "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Jun 4, 2006, at 8:42 AM, Danial Thom wrote:
> >
> > How is informing someone that they're wasting
> > their money on a MB a waste of time? I'm sure
> > you've wasted thousands of your employers
> dollars
> > with your ignorant recommendations, Jerry. I
> can
> > get hours of entertainment just googling you.
> >
> > Ok, here's a test to illustrate my point. I
> have
> > a server with a big file (352MB). 2 client
> > machines running the same version of Freebsd:
> >
> > 1) AMD 1.8Ghz Opteron - onboard bge
> controller:
> >
> > Ftp results: 4MB/s
> 
> You have something wrong then.I have 2 such
> machines, both with  
> the bge on a simple 32bit/33mhz pci bus, not on
> a 64 bit or a faster  
> pci-x bus (Tyan S2850 boards in both, both with
> Opteron 244  
> (1.8ghz)).  They are connected together with a
> low level (ie, less  
> expensive) gigabit switch with standard MTU
> size
> 
> bge1:
>
flags=8843
> mtu 1500
> 
> options=1a
>  inet 192.168.2.129 netmask 0xff00
> broadcast 192.168.2.255
>  ether 00:e0:81:60:0c:f7
>  media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX
> )
>  status: active
> 
> bge1:
>
flags=8843
> mtu 1500
> 
> options=1a
>  inet 192.168.2.110 netmask 0xff00
> broadcast 192.168.2.255
>  inet6 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe64:ae9d%bge1
> prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
>  inet 192.168.2.111 netmask 0x
> broadcast 192.168.2.111
>  inet 192.168.2.112 netmask 0x
> broadcast 192.168.2.112
>  inet 192.168.2.113 netmask 0x
> broadcast 192.168.2.113
>  inet 192.168.2.114 netmask 0x
> broadcast 192.168.2.114
>  ether 00:e0:81:64:ae:9d
>  media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX
> )
>  status: active
> 
> I ftp'ed a 3.9GB file between them using simple
> ftp protocol.
> 
> 4227530240 bytes sent in 05:06 (13.16 MB/s)
> 
> Both have dual bge ethernet ports and this was
> on the secondary port  
> on each, bge1.   The primary port, bge0, on
> each is hooked to a  
> 100BaseT switch and one server (origination)
> was serving a bunch of  
> http/php on bge0 and the other was serving
> clamav/spamassassin at the  
> same time.
> 
> On the origination side I did top and the load
> barely moved during  
> the ftp and system CPU time was a few % higher.
>  Not ideal but not a  
> deal breaker either.
> 
> Chad
> 
> >
> > 2) Intel 2.0Ghz Celeron 845 Chipset, onboard
> fxp
> > controller:
> >
> > ftp results: 11MB/s
> >
> > I think we'll all agree that a 1.8Ghz opteron
> is
> > substantially faster (and more expensive)
> then a
> > 2.0Ghz Celeron? (or will Jerry ask me to
> prove
> > this also)? Its not rocket science. What good
> is
> > the extra horsepower of the cpu doing you if
> > you're using a crap controller? Its mindless
> > stupidity; which is about what you'd expect
> from
> > a sys admin, and not an engineer. The problem
> > with this list is that its all sys admins, so
> > learning from other idiots just causes  you
> to be
> > just as stupid at your "teachers".
> >
> > DT
> >
> >
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Re: route malfunction wrong info

[Atom Powers]

On 6/4/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi,
I'm running Freebsd 6.1RC-1.

Can anyone tell me if this is a bug or not?
-Vlan137 is up
-I issue a route get subnet from valn137 and I see the route exists
-I issue an ifconfig vlan137 down
-I then issue route get (subnet on the downed interface) and is show it as up
Shouldn't this route dissapear when I issue the ifconfig vlan137 down?


I don't think so, assuming you are using static routes.
Even if an interface is down, the system is still attached to that
network even though it won't use it; so that is still a valid route
even if it can't be used.
If you "destroy"-ed that interface I bet the route would dissipear. Or
you could use a dynamic routing protocol.

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Re: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the 8237R?

[Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC]

On Jun 4, 2006, at 8:42 AM, Danial Thom wrote:


How is informing someone that they're wasting
their money on a MB a waste of time? I'm sure
you've wasted thousands of your employers dollars
with your ignorant recommendations, Jerry. I can
get hours of entertainment just googling you.

Ok, here's a test to illustrate my point. I have
a server with a big file (352MB). 2 client
machines running the same version of Freebsd:

1) AMD 1.8Ghz Opteron - onboard bge controller:

Ftp results: 4MB/s


You have something wrong then.I have 2 such machines, both with  
the bge on a simple 32bit/33mhz pci bus, not on a 64 bit or a faster  
pci-x bus (Tyan S2850 boards in both, both with Opteron 244  
(1.8ghz)).  They are connected together with a low level (ie, less  
expensive) gigabit switch with standard MTU size


bge1: flags=8843 mtu 1500
options=1a
inet 192.168.2.129 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
ether 00:e0:81:60:0c:f7
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX )
status: active

bge1: flags=8843 mtu 1500
options=1a
inet 192.168.2.110 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.2.255
inet6 fe80::2e0:81ff:fe64:ae9d%bge1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
inet 192.168.2.111 netmask 0x broadcast 192.168.2.111
inet 192.168.2.112 netmask 0x broadcast 192.168.2.112
inet 192.168.2.113 netmask 0x broadcast 192.168.2.113
inet 192.168.2.114 netmask 0x broadcast 192.168.2.114
ether 00:e0:81:64:ae:9d
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX )
status: active

I ftp'ed a 3.9GB file between them using simple ftp protocol.

4227530240 bytes sent in 05:06 (13.16 MB/s)

Both have dual bge ethernet ports and this was on the secondary port  
on each, bge1.   The primary port, bge0, on each is hooked to a  
100BaseT switch and one server (origination) was serving a bunch of  
http/php on bge0 and the other was serving clamav/spamassassin at the  
same time.


On the origination side I did top and the load barely moved during  
the ftp and system CPU time was a few % higher.  Not ideal but not a  
deal breaker either.


Chad



2) Intel 2.0Ghz Celeron 845 Chipset, onboard fxp
controller:

ftp results: 11MB/s

I think we'll all agree that a 1.8Ghz opteron is
substantially faster (and more expensive) then a
2.0Ghz Celeron? (or will Jerry ask me to prove
this also)? Its not rocket science. What good is
the extra horsepower of the cpu doing you if
you're using a crap controller? Its mindless
stupidity; which is about what you'd expect from
a sys admin, and not an engineer. The problem
with this list is that its all sys admins, so
learning from other idiots just causes  you to be
just as stupid at your "teachers".

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Re: n00b question again

[Nick Withers]

On Sun, 4 Jun 2006 15:52:40 +0100 (BST)
dharam paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello to all,
> 
> I was concerned about the security and bandwidth usage
> in my intranet. 
> The netstat -anW command gives me following output:
> 
> Active Internet connections (including servers)
> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address  Foreign
> Address(state)
> tcp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.22   
> 192.168.1.10.1150  ESTABLISHED
> tcp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.49988
> 66.218.71.234.443  TIME_WAIT
> tcp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.56459

(snip)

> It can bee seen that yahoo servers have established
> contact with my NIC (192.168.1.14]. Why so?

Or you've established a connection with a Yahoo server, which
is far more likely. I'm assuming you're talking about the
"66.218.71.234" (pclick1.data.ssl.scd.yahoo.com) connection...

> Is it valid?

You can see that the port on the Yahoo server is 443 (which is
used by HTTPS, typically) and the port on your machine is
high (above 1024). In order for a tcp connection to work, there
is a port dedicated to it on both the client and the server.
Typically, clients get / use high-numbered ports when
establishing a remote connection.

> Or is Yahoo using my bandwidth?

Depends on your point of view here! You're using Yahoo's
bandwidth, and it has to use your bandwidth to give you
anything back... So technically yes.

> At least one of the foreign addresses that have established contact
> with my NIC is that of Yahoo?
> How do I avoid it?

Firewall off Yahoo's IP renge(s)? :-)

> Please advise. TIA.
> 
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MySQL port won't understand SSL configuration directives

[Matt Bostock]

Hello,

I compiled the MySQL port with WITH_OPENSSL=yes, but it won't start as it
complains about the SSL directives in /etc/my.cnf;

[ERROR] /usr/local/libexec/mysqld: unknown variable 'ssl-ca=/x'

Any help is much appreciated,
Matt :)

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Re: n00b question again

[dharam paul]

No Sir, the freebsd machine is an independent machine
, intext mode only and is meant for only serving
internet to the windows machines. Yahoo messenger is
not installed on this machine.

--- Pete C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Quoting dharam paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> 
> >
> > Send instant messages to your online friends
> http://in.messenger.yahoo.com
> > ___
> 
> 
> are you running yahoo messenger on the machine ? ? ?
> 
> 
> Pete C
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: freesd boxes refusing scp and sftp?

[Benjamin Lutz]

On Sunday 04 June 2006 16:45, Jonathan Horne wrote:
> my freebsd boxes are refusing connections (or erroring them out, im not
> sure which it is at this time).  when i try to scp a file or make a sftp
> connection, this is what i get:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sftp tyche
> Connecting to tyche...
> Password:
> Received message too long 538976288
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
>
> i get something similar (yet equally aggravating!) when i scp too.  can
> someone point me in the right direction here?

For scp and sftp to work, the machine must not print anything at login time. 
So if you, say, have your machine print a fortune cookie at login, you need 
to disable that.

Cheers
Benjamin


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Re: n00b question again

[Pete C]

Quoting dharam paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:




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Re: building xgl

[vayu]

On Jun 4, 2006, at 6:38 AM, Jim Stapleton wrote:


On 6/4/06, Jim Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Does anyone have experience building XGL on Freebsd?

It has Makefile.am files, but no other files needed for automake  
(such

as configure.ac/configure.in). Does anyone know where I can find them
for this program, or if there is a trivial manner to generate them
(following the gnu automake tutorial, changeing the names as
appropriate, is only producing errors).

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton




Here's an account of somebody who's done it. He covers the automake  
issues.  It seems a little over my head.  I've got it working on  
Linux and really can't wait to get it on FreeBSD.


http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39615&highlight=xgl



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n00b question again

[dharam paul]

Hello to all,

I was concerned about the security and bandwidth usage
in my intranet. 
The netstat -anW command gives me following output:

Active Internet connections (including servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q  Local Address  Foreign
Address(state)
tcp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.22   
192.168.1.10.1150  ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.49988
66.218.71.234.443  TIME_WAIT
tcp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.56459
203.200.85.169.80  ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.58081
203.200.85.162.80  ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.61314
203.200.85.163.80  ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.61863
213.171.218.79.80  TIME_WAIT
tcp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.56925
203.200.85.163.80  ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  *.8080 *.*   
LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.59185   
127.0.0.1.54912ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.54912   
127.0.0.1.59185ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.50009   
127.0.0.1.55820ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.55820   
127.0.0.1.50009ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.62365   
127.0.0.1.55311ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.55311   
127.0.0.1.62365ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.61045   
127.0.0.1.53667ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.53667   
127.0.0.1.61045ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.54799   
127.0.0.1.62139ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  127.0.0.1.62139   
127.0.0.1.54799ESTABLISHED
tcp4   0  0  *.139  *.*   
LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  *.445  *.*   
LISTEN
tcp4   0  0  *.22   *.*   
LISTEN
tcp6   0  0  *.22 
*.*   

LISTEN
udp4   0  0  *.3401 *.*
udp4   0  0  *.3130 *.*
udp4   0  0  *.51191*.*
udp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.138   *.*
udp4   0  0  192.168.1.14.137   *.*
udp4   0  0  *.138  *.*
udp4   0  0  *.137  *.*
udp4   0  0  *.514  *.*
udp6   0  0  *.514
*.*   

Active UNIX domain sockets
Address  Type   Recv-Q Send-QInode Conn
Refs  Nextref Addr
c17bc000 stream  0  0 c17bd1080   
00 /var/run/devd. 
pipe
c17bbaf0 dgram   0  00 c17bbe38   
00
c17bbc08 dgram   0  00 c17bbec4   
00
c17bbe38 dgram   0  0 c17ad5280
c17bbaf00 /var/run/logpr  
   iv
c17bbec4 dgram   0  0 c17ad6300
c17bbc080 /var/run/log 
It can bee seen that yahoo servers have established
contact with my NIC (192.168.1.14]. Why so? Is it
valid? Or is Yahoo using my bandwidth? At least one of
the foreign addresses that have established contact
with my NIC is that of Yahoo?
How do I avoid it?
Please advise. TIA.

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freesd boxes refusing scp and sftp?

[Jonathan Horne]

my freebsd boxes are refusing connections (or erroring them out, im not sure 
which it is at this time).  when i try to scp a file or make a sftp 
connection, this is what i get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sftp tyche
Connecting to tyche...
Password:
Received message too long 538976288
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

i get something similar (yet equally aggravating!) when i scp too.  can 
someone point me in the right direction here?

thanks a bunch,
jonathan
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Re: Does FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE support the 8237R?

[Danial Thom]

--- Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> > 
> > >notice this thread is in reference to
> swapping a MB for another MB and
> > >coments like yours are not appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > >Please notice I never said what the box was
> doing nor did I ask for your
> > >opinion of what MB/NIC I use in my systems.
> > 
> > Makes no difference, he has as much right to
> sound off as you do
> > as long as he sounds off on FreeBSD or a
> directly related topic.  This
> > is a public forum.  If you don't like a post,
> delete it.
> 
> So, I guess that means that the original poster
> can spout off and say that
> the response contained irrelevant and offensive
> material if he wants as well.
> Getting those types of responses is one way
> that persons (at least some of
> them who have sufficient perception) learn how
> to make appropriate and
> meaningful responses.  
> 
> > As I've said before on this mailing list,
> freebsd-questions is a public
> > mailing list that is FREE support.  You don't
> "have it your way" you
> > "have it the responders way"
> 
> And the original poster subsequently became a
> responder.
> 
> > If you can shuck some pearls out of the
> oyster bed here, your doing
> > better than most, but you have no right to
> urinate all over the oyster
> > bed just because you don't find any pearls.
> 
> Wow, I am stunned.
> 
> > If you want it "your way" I suggest you
> investigate PAID support.  There
> > are plenty of people out there taking money
> for support, and they will
> > give you the support any way you want, on as
> nice a silver platter and
> > bed of roses and as polite as you want.
> 
> Pecuniary reward is not the only reason to
> learn how to make reasonable,
> meaningful responses that are to the point of
> the question and to be
> able to understand the difference.   Being able
> to post responses that
> are respected in the community is another
> reward and may occasionally
> require learning from peoples comments on the
> quality of the responses.
> 
> jerry
> 
> > 
> > > This SERVER is
> > >purpose built
> > >and runs stable 24/7 as a low volume
> outbound mail server so
> > >the performance
> > >of the NIC is not my primary concern.
> > 
> > You have no need to justify what your doing
> to him or to me or to
> > anybody.
> > Why bother doing it.
> > 
> > > Please keep your useless
> > >comments to
> > >yourself as they do nothing but waste disk
> space, CPU time and
> > >the valuable
> > >time of people who attempt to help others on
> this list.

How is informing someone that they're wasting
their money on a MB a waste of time? I'm sure
you've wasted thousands of your employers dollars
with your ignorant recommendations, Jerry. I can
get hours of entertainment just googling you.

Ok, here's a test to illustrate my point. I have
a server with a big file (352MB). 2 client
machines running the same version of Freebsd:

1) AMD 1.8Ghz Opteron - onboard bge controller:

Ftp results: 4MB/s

2) Intel 2.0Ghz Celeron 845 Chipset, onboard fxp
controller:

ftp results: 11MB/s

I think we'll all agree that a 1.8Ghz opteron is
substantially faster (and more expensive) then a
2.0Ghz Celeron? (or will Jerry ask me to prove
this also)? Its not rocket science. What good is
the extra horsepower of the cpu doing you if
you're using a crap controller? Its mindless
stupidity; which is about what you'd expect from
a sys admin, and not an engineer. The problem
with this list is that its all sys admins, so
learning from other idiots just causes  you to be
just as stupid at your "teachers".

DT

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route malfunction wrong info

[Tyrone.VanDerHaar]

Hi,
I'm running Freebsd 6.1RC-1.

Can anyone tell me if this is a bug or not?
-Vlan137 is up
-I issue a route get subnet from valn137 and I see the route exists
-I issue an ifconfig vlan137 down
-I then issue route get (subnet on the downed interface) and is show it as up
Shouldn't this route dissapear when I issue the ifconfig vlan137 down?
ifconfig vlan137
vlan137: flags=8943 mtu 1500
inet xxx.xxx.xxx.177 netmask 0xfff0 broadcast xxx.xxx.xxx.191
ether 00:30:48:85:1a:8e
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX )
status: active
vlan: 137 parent interface: bge0
ifconfig vlan137 down
vlan137: flags=8942 mtu 1500
inet xxx.xxx.xxx.177 netmask 0xfff0 broadcast xxx.xxx.xxx.191
ether 00:30:48:85:1a:8e
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX )
status: active
vlan: 137 parent interface: bge0
route get 
route to: xxx.xxx.xxx.176
destination: xxx.xxx.xxx.176
   mask: 255.255.255.240
  interface: vlan137
  flags: 
 recvpipe  sendpipe  ssthresh  rtt,msecrttvar  hopcount  mtu expire
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OpenOffice install

[Pete C]

Trying to setup openoffice 1.1.5 on a FBSD6.1 box (pkg was added  
during install) and just wondering about where to install what . . .  
there a multiple accounts on the one machine that need access . . . do  
I do a "Local Install" as root (to /usr/local/bin ??? (pls  
confirm/suggest alt)) and then a "Workstation Install" as each user to  
their home dir ? ? ?


TIA

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Re: i wish to buy your site

[Hunter Fuller]

There are several ways you just embarrassed yourself.
On  04 Jun 2006, at 9:49 AM, bill hunt wrote:


dear webmaster.
My name is Bill Hunt and I'm interested in purchsing your site.
1) You tried to purchase a website and you don't even know what it  
represents. More on this later.

the price is nagotiable

2) You failed to spell "negotiable" correctly.

and I'm willing to pay as much as we can agree on.
please let me know if it's ok by you and we'll start nagotiating.
3) You asked a mailing list for an open source project to sell a  
website.
This tells me you obviously haven't read anything to do with the  
mailing list - you just randomly picked an email address and asked to  
buy the website using this address. Therefore, you probably know  
nothing about BSD. Maybe next time you try to acquire a site you  
should actually *know what it is* beforehand.

yours,
Bill

Whose again? Mine? You sent this mail to quite a few people!

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Re: building xgl

[Jim Stapleton]

disregard:

it seems I went to a website that mislead me into thinking I had found
XGL, when it was in fact, something else (and smaller), on Novel's
website.

Thank you,
-Jim Stapleton

On 6/4/06, Jim Stapleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Does anyone have experience building XGL on Freebsd?

It has Makefile.am files, but no other files needed for automake (such
as configure.ac/configure.in). Does anyone know where I can find them
for this program, or if there is a trivial manner to generate them
(following the gnu automake tutorial, changeing the names as
appropriate, is only producing errors).

Thanks,
-Jim Stapleton


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