Re: FreeBSD Linux distro
On Thursday 21 February 2008 23:03, D G Teed wrote: For example, no where in this have I heard a peep about backup software. Anyone serious about IT is serious about backup. Yet there is no support for EMC (Legato) Networker in FreeBSD, and this is why our organization is migrating away from this FreeBSD. Petty quibble: I suspect that you mean ``there is no support for FreeBSD in EMC Networker'' rather than the other way round. Picking a backup solution that can't back up some of your servers, and opting to fix the problem by getting rid of the servers, seems to me to be doing things the wrong way round - irrespective of which OS you're forcing yourself to get rid of. Of course, EMC Networker may be so much better than any other backup solution as to justify the work involved in moving working services to a different platform - I don't know Networker so I can't really comment, although I agree with most of what you said about making sure you pick a platform which supports what you're trying to do. I say most because my own feeling as a sysadmin is that you must have a very good reason to run more than the bare minimum range of operating systems you can - which is an argument for moving away from some platforms if you're already running several. I am in the process of moving from multiple platforms, ranging from Windows NT4, through e-smith (server-in-a-box based on Red Hat), Debian, and FreeBSD, from 4.8 up to date. We are aiming to end up with a bunch of FreeBSD boxes, all using a standard build from a central buildserver, plus one or two boxes running Windows Server 2003 supporting users, who are all running Windows desktops and applications, including apps which run on the server, with clients connecting over the network. It's taken a while but every time we get rid of an old box my workload in supporting the rest of the system drops a little. Note: I'm not saying everyone should standardise on FreeBSD - that's just what I'm most familiar with at the moment, and when I started to move things round we had more FreeBSD servers than anything else, so it made sense to pick that and bring the rest into line, where we were able to, especially because the other OSes were mainly running on hardware which was due for replacement soon anyway, so that the migration could be seen as being in the ordinary course of maintenance and not extra load on busy systems staff. (Sorry: when I realised I'd started my reply with a few lines which by accident were tapering off at the ends I couldn't resist trying to see how long I could keep it up. It's foolish, I know, but it is a fun exercise in picking your words carefully and yet still trying to make sense. If you aren't reading with a fixed width font, you may not be getting the effect of the layout anyway: so if you can't see it, I'm sorry for taking up yet more of your time, just to play about with line lengths and make up pretty patterns in your mail reader. I'll stop now or at least once I can taper down to the length of the given name I sign off with). Jonathan (Whew!) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Linux distro
Yes! This is the best answer to this question so far. Just UNIX nothing more :-) --Oliver Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by not being linux at all. FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends from the user how it's being used. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Every four seconds a woman has a baby. Our problem is to find this woman and stop her. pgpp7yyxmniKF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years.
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Predrag Punosevac Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 12:25 PM To: David Kelly Cc: Gary Kline; FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years. David Kelly wrote: On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:02:25AM -0800, Gary Kline wrote: Nutshell, I'd like anyone's ideas/experiences with some of these new HP/ or whateverbrand printers. I wouldn't *mind* if I could scan in text from a techy paper into HTML or PDF or text. But mostly, like 99.44% plain black text. My old deskjet used gs as a filter to print PostScript. Do we have any such plugin support, or are printers still roll-your-own? [FWIW, I can't seem to get CUPS working... altho it maay be my misssing /dev/lpt0.] Why don't you check http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting for the most comprehensive information available. Just couple a comments. I would keep native LPD spooling system instead installing CUPS unless you need to use something like HPLIP drivers. You do not need CUPS for the hplip drivers, you can use lpd if you want. To be perfectly clear on this, all that CUPS is, is 4 things: Spool manager - LPD does this Speaks IPP protocol - LPD also does this except it speaks LPR protocol Easy user interface for the options needed by some of the more complex filters. - lpd does NOT do this BUT, you can do it by writing your own filter script and coding the options you want into it. Note that most options are set once and forget, so CUPS really doesen't add much here. CUPS uses Postscript PPD files to automagically generate the webpage the user fills out to select these options. web-interface for job mangement - well who needs this for a personal printer attached to a workstation? The reason CUPS is used so much is that it dummifies the chain of hooking together programs into a black box. So, people who don't understand what is going on can setup a printer by clicking buttons. That is fine if your printer model is supported. But if it doesen't work or if the model is a new one that the cups people haven't quite yet got around to testing with, or nobody has written a .PPD file for it, you have to understand what is going on then. I've posted the following before, but here's the instructions I use for setting up my C84 without CUPS, so you can see how this kind of thing works. They are just a bit old but still work if you change the version #s. The setup uses the IJS output from Ghostscript and feeds it into gimpprint. The HPLIP scheme works exactly the same way except that instead of gimpprint, you use the hpijs driver along with the required options: 1) setup print queue Add the following to the end of /etc/printcap: lp-epson|Epson C84 Color printer:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lp-epson:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:mx=0:\ :of=/usr/local/bin/epsonfilter:rw: lp-epson-raw|Epson C84 Color Printer - raw for Windows systems:\ :sh:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:sd=/var/spool/output/lp-epson-raw:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:\ :mx#0:rw: Create the print queues: cd /var/spool/output mkdir lp-epson mkdir lp-epson-raw Add in access for the local systems cat /etc/hosts.lpd # $FreeBSD: src/etc/hosts.lpd,v 1.4 1999/08/27 23:23:42 peter Exp $ # # See lpd(8) #machine.domain tedwin2k.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com 192.168.1.60 tedsdesk.ipinc.net ip-port-rtr1.ipinc.net sunrise.ipinc.net nat-rtr# Run some test prints through the queues: cd /etc ls -l | lpr -P lp-text Send a test print page from the Windows 2K workstation via lpr to the print queue on the BSD box (do a chmod 664 on the lock file in the lp-epson-raw queue, since network LPR doesen't set the mask up properly per submitted bug) 2) Install the tools to image a printjob for the Epson, as follows: cd /usr/ports/print/gimp-print make WITHOUT_CUPS=yes cd work/gimp-print-4.2.7/src/escputil ./escputil -i -u -r /dev/lpt0 (checks ink levels) ./escputil -n -u -r /dev/lpt0 (prints nozzle alignment) (try some other commands to see if the level of support is better) cd ../../../../ make WITHOUT_CUPS=yes install cd ../ghostscript-gnu make install Deselect all the printers, leave in stp and ijs driver, as well as all the X-windows drivers and the jpg and other image drivers. test the ghostscript install: cd /root man -t which which.ps gs -dBATCH -sDEVICE=jpeg -sOutputFile=test.jpg which.ps open test.jpg in a browser and see if the page is there Now test gimpprint and ghostscript: first manually with the command, gs -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=/usr/local/bin/ijsgimpprint -sDeviceManufacturer =EPSON -sDeviceModel=escp2-c84 -sIjsParams=Quality=720x360sw,InkType=CMYK ,MediaType=Plain -dIjsUseOutputFD -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sOutputFile=test.out /usr/local/share/ghostscript/7.07/examples/colorcir.ps lpr -P lp-epson-raw test.out Create the file
Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years.
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Predrag Punosevac Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years. Predrag Punosevac wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr What is lpr? Usually printers speak Post Script or PCL printer command language in which case you need a driver. LPD, LPRng, and CUPS are different spooling systems. Did you attach the printer to a computer or is acting as a free standing printer server. There is a lpr driver by Brother for Linux. Brother and Canon have binary blob drivers. Did you use that driver may be? Does anyone know if those binary blobs can be useful for anything on FreeBSD. They appear to be wrappers for standard Ghost Script drivers. They aren't wrappers. The binary drivers generally take the intermediate output from the Ghostscript ijs driver and convert it into whatever the printer understands. If the binary driver is statically built then it likely can be run by the linuxulator under FreeBSD. Most of the time the binary drivers are wrapped in an install script that sets all this up. I will actually try to do that as soon as I get my hands on one of those Brother printers and see if I can get it to work on FreeBSD and OpenBSD. Of course, I will definitely try to set up my wife's Photosmart C5250 with only using LPD:-) Thanks one more time Tad! Predrag Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] PC starter
Automatically turn on your PC. It's a common problem, when using desktop hardware to run a server: after a power failure, the machine needs human action to restart. High-end desktops and server hardware often have a BIOS setting to automatically start when power comes back. Using a low-end, older PC hardware to run some low demanding services is very tempting, but what to do when the UPS runs out of battery, or when there are no UPS at all (for security reason, like a system that controls a door, it may be prefered to avoid using a UPS). The rest at http://www.cs.ait.ac.th/laboratory/door/pcstarter.shtml Bests, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DJ500 dead after = 16 years.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Predrag Punosevac Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years. Predrag Punosevac wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr What is lpr? Usually printers speak Post Script or PCL printer command language in which case you need a driver. LPD, LPRng, and CUPS are different spooling systems. Did you attach the printer to a computer or is acting as a free standing printer server. There is a lpr driver by Brother for Linux. Brother and Canon have binary blob drivers. Did you use that driver may be? Does anyone know if those binary blobs can be useful for anything on FreeBSD. They appear to be wrappers for standard Ghost Script drivers. They aren't wrappers. The binary drivers generally take the intermediate output from the Ghostscript ijs driver and convert it into whatever the printer understands. If the binary driver is statically built then it likely can be run by the linuxulator under FreeBSD. Most of the time the binary drivers are wrapped in an install script that sets all this up. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Linux distro
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 23:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot, and never uses standard parts if they can help it. Mercedes? :) Fits the first, dunno about the third. Certainly not the second -- Benz are some of the best-engineered and built cars in existence. Maybe BMW, aka Bunch-a Money Wasted or Bite My Wallet. I wouldn't insult a quality car like that. Ive heard nothing but good stories about them and it's something I'd buy myself. Very safe to drive... Ok. How about the new VW beetle? I've heard they're crap- not as good as the original, expensive, poorly designed, break down a lot, and driven by little teeny boppers with money to waste buying just for the frilly stuff. Does that fit the bill? We'll take a vote- all in favor say aye... :P ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DJ500 dead after = 16 years.
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Kline Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:18 AM To: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years. On Wednesday 20 February 2008 21:07:40 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr (so you don't need to bother with CUPS). I am still on the original 1000-page starter cartridge. Replacements are rated 3000 sheets; I haven't priced them. That's black only. The cheapest color-capable networked PostScript printer I've found so far is the Xerox 6130N, for which I've been quoted $375 including $380 worth of cartridges (C, M, Y, K @ $95 each) -- Xerox seems to have some promotional pricing this month. IIRC the color cartridges are rated 1900 sheets and the black 2500. This one is also supposed to handle lpr natively. While I haven't got one (yet), I figure it is almost guaranteed to be good -- Xerox do not make junk. Great; another printer heard about.SO far the Brother at = $200 with 7000 pages at a $30 cartridge sounds better.I've done mostly the academic, plain bw over the years. Hm, well, then I have had some papers returned with feedback marked in blue in OOo. There is a fancy Brother color printer [on sale] at Costco for like $700. (!) After my heart was shocked back to life, I double-checked. I can't imagine what it does for 700 clams, but don't have room for it here anyway. Can you use any paper with the laser printers, or does it have to meet a certain spec? Yes it has to meet a certain spec However, that spec is so widely known and has been so widely known for something like the last 15 years that any paper you buy today will meet it.You literally now would have to special-order copy paper that -wouldn't- meet spec in a laser printer. You probably wouldn't do well with something like newsprint in a laser printer, for example. Also, these days you can get transparencies that won't melt in a laser printer. Of course, it's a little too late for that as overhead projectors have mostly vanished. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMP interrupt problem
Hi, I have a system with two dual core CPUS. I have installed 6.3 release and have the SMP kernel running. FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 16 04:45:45 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2799.22-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x4400CNXT-ID,xTPR Logical CPUs per core: 2 real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1037307904 (989 MB) ACPI APIC Table: A M I OEMAPIC FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 48-71 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jan 16 2008 04:43:12) acpi0: A M I OEMRSDT on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: ACPI CPU Throttling on cpu0 cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu2: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu3: ACPI CPU on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 2.0 on pci0 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 29.0 on pci2 pci4: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 .. .. .. Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. ad0: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00FSA0 77.07W77 at ata0-master UDMA100 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Once it is running it seems to just be busy doing interrupts. When idle top -C -S shows: last pid: 811; load averages: 1.00, 0.67, 0.31up 0+00:04:24 07:32:53 65 processes: 6 running, 43 sleeping, 16 waiting CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 43.6% interrupt, 56.4% idle Mem: 7376K Active, 4768K Inact, 18M Wired, 8336K Buf, 963M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIMECPU COMMAND 13 root1 171 52 0K 8K RUN0 3:43 99.02% idle: cpu0 23 root1 -52 -171 0K 8K CPU2 2 2:51 85.11% irq9: acpi0 11 root1 171 52 0K 8K RUN2 0:55 12.89% idle: cpu2 37 root1 171 52 0K 8K pgzero 0 0:00 0.00% pagezero 15 root1 -32 -151 0K 8K WAIT 0 0:00 0.00% swi4: clock s 0 root1 960 0K 0K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% swapper 4 root1 -80 0K 8K - 0 0:00 0.00% g_down 3 root1 -80 0K 8K - 0 0:00 0.00% g_up If anyone has an idea what the problem is I would be grateful for any advice. Regards, Rob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: HP LaserJet not uploading firmware permission denied ulpt0
On February 21, 2008 09:08:58 pm you wrote: On 2/21/08, Paul Belair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using 6.3 FreeBSD Is there a fix that works. I have a hp laserjet 1000 printer. You've got to be logged in as the 'root' user, (or a user who has write-access to /dev/ulpt0, which by default is only 'root'). 1. Ensure you are the root user. You can check this by executing the command: id 2. If you are the root user and it still does not work, what is the output of the command: ls -l /dev/ulpt0 3. What is the exact command you're executing to upload the firmware and what is the exact error it reports? -Modulok- Thanks in advance, since you replied I did a fresh install and use kde. I'm awaiting instructions for this machine. crw-r--r-- 1 root operator0, 129 Feb 22 06:22 /dev/ulpt0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: setting X11BASE
On Friday 22 February 2008 08:07:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After updating with portsnap, I am getting an insufficiently-helpful error message: On FreeBSD before 6.2 ports system unfortunately can not set default X11BASE by itself so please help it a bit by setting X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in make.conf. On the other hand, if you do wish to use non-default X11BASE, please set variable USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE. * Am I correct in *guessing* that make.conf refers to /etc/make.conf? Yes. * What is the value of LOCALBASE? I'm not finding any definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf. Just set it to ${LOCALBASE} verbatim. Not what you think is the value of the variable LOCALBASE but the word ${LOCALBASE}. * How do I figure out whether I should set USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE? You don't have to. * Why does it even need this? The port I am trying to install ATM (portmaster, to get a handle on the dependency maze) has nothing to do with X11. Because portmaster checks the status of your ports installation for sanity. In case it matters, I have not upgraded to the modular Xorg, and would prefer not to go through all that. It ain't broke ... True, but your portstree is now 'broken', because support for how it used to work is being phased out, like the whole X11BASE thing. I think if you upgrade anything that depends on xorg, you'll find dependencies being pulled in that are part of the modular xorg, unless you really know what you're doing. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
On Friday 22 February 2008 04:26:12 Forrest Aldrich wrote: Mel wrote: Your extensions.ini has duplicate and non-existing modules. Start here: mv /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp sort -u /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp |while read MOD; do if test -f /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/${MOD##extension=}; then echo $MOD fi done /usr/local/etc/extensions.ini php -v I've done this and still have a problem with PHP5 dumping core: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/lang/php5]# php -v PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 21:51:01) Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by eAccelerator with Suhosin v0.9.18, Copyright (c) 2002-2006, by Hardened-PHP Project Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) I tried compiling this without eAccelerator, got the same problem. I'm now trying it without the Suhosin enhancements to see if that's the problem - sent a copy of this to the PHP5 port maintainer. Sorry, the internet is global and my pumpkin time was up. Suhosin isn't the problem. What the above did is make sure you have no non-existing modules loading and no modules twice. But the sort order was alphabetic and that's why it still dumps core. Some modules depend on eachother and one needs to be loaded before the other or it goes to hell. Nothing else you can do then figure out the correct order. Experience teaches spl, session and mysqli are common culprits. spl before sqlite before pdo_sqlite before session before mysqli before xmlreader *usually* works. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMP interrupt problem
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008 11:38:42 + Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a system with two dual core CPUS. I have installed 6.3 release and have the SMP kernel running. FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE #0: Wed Jan 16 04:45:45 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.80GHz (2799.22-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf29 Stepping = 9 Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Features2=0x4400CNXT-ID,xTPR Logical CPUs per core: 2 Actually, the above says you have two *single-core* CPUs with hyperthreading enabled. real memory = 1073676288 (1023 MB) avail memory = 1037307904 (989 MB) ACPI APIC Table: A M I OEMAPIC FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID: 0 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID: 1 cpu2 (AP): APIC ID: 6 cpu3 (AP): APIC ID: 7 MADT: Forcing active-low polarity and level trigger for SCI ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on motherboard ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 48-71 on motherboard kbd1 at kbdmux0 ath_hal: 0.9.20.3 (AR5210, AR5211, AR5212, RF5111, RF5112, RF2413, RF5413) hptrr: HPT RocketRAID controller driver v1.1 (Jan 16 2008 04:43:12) acpi0: A M I OEMRSDT on motherboard acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x408-0x40b on acpi0 cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 acpi_throttle0: ACPI CPU Throttling on cpu0 cpu1: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu2: ACPI CPU on acpi0 cpu3: ACPI CPU on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 2.0 on pci0 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 29.0 on pci2 pci4: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 .. .. .. Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec hptrr: no controller detected. ad0: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00FSA0 77.07W77 at ata0-master UDMA100 SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched! SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched! Once it is running it seems to just be busy doing interrupts. When idle top -C -S shows: last pid: 811; load averages: 1.00, 0.67, 0.31up 0+00:04:24 07:32:53 65 processes: 6 running, 43 sleeping, 16 waiting CPU states: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 43.6% interrupt, 56.4% idle Mem: 7376K Active, 4768K Inact, 18M Wired, 8336K Buf, 963M Free Swap: 1024M Total, 1024M Free PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIMECPU COMMAND 13 root1 171 52 0K 8K RUN0 3:43 99.02% idle: cpu0 23 root1 -52 -171 0K 8K CPU2 2 2:51 85.11% irq9: acpi0 Have you looked to see which device(s) you have at IRQ 9? Is there some problem with the device(s)? 11 root1 171 52 0K 8K RUN2 0:55 12.89% idle: cpu2 37 root1 171 52 0K 8K pgzero 0 0:00 0.00% pagezero 15 root1 -32 -151 0K 8K WAIT 0 0:00 0.00% swi4: clock s 0 root1 960 0K 0K WAIT 1 0:00 0.00% swapper 4 root1 -80 0K 8K - 0 0:00 0.00% g_down 3 root1 -80 0K 8K - 0 0:00 0.00% g_up If anyone has an idea what the problem is I would be grateful for any advice. You deleted part of the startup messages, so we can't see what you have at IRQ 9. Go back and look at either dmesg(1) output or /var/log/messages to find out what device(s) interrupt(s) at IRQ 9. Then check for anything weird about the device activity. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army. * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Multiple versions of PHP
On Friday 22 February 2008 04:25:17 patrick wrote: I've got a new problem... Nope, you've got a shoot yourself in the foot problem. While I was able to install PHP 5 into a separate location than PHP 4 (both from ports), See? There's a reason ports use CONFLICTS: the ports are conflicting. I don't know why people advise using prefixes on conflicting ports - it's not a good thing. Actually, it's a bad thing. A really bad thing. This is what jails are for. If the maintainer of the php ports would support having both 4 and 5 installed, he could do it by renaming the CLI binary to php4 and php5 respectively and in the process break many other ports depending on the fact that the cli is called 'php' and more importantly that the pecl-* ports depend on phpize giving them the right information. In short: you'll create a mess. Here's what you do: * Add an IP alias to your network card * Find some free space on the disk * read the instructions in jail(8) * and install php5 (or php4) in the jail. Now you'll have cleanly seperated php installations and no more prefixing, worries about dependencies etc etc. Costs: 400-500M extra diskspace and an alias IP, 2-3 hours of work including the build of dependencies. Gains: too many to mention. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ionCube PHP Encoder / Loader on FreeBSD 6 / 7
patrick wrote: On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Doug Poland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm having problems getting ionCube's PHP loader working on either 6.3-RELEASE or 7.0-RC2 (both i386). I've followed the install instructions, edited php.ini, installed compat5x and compat6x libraries, but just cannot get the loader to work. Both boxes are running PHP 5.2.5. Have googled and read the ioncube forums. I must be missing something obvious. Thanks in advance... Hi Doug, You may get more help if you provide some more details like log messages or specifics about what is not working. Patrick Hi Patrick, Thank you for the response. My error was in the details, as you suggested. I was using this statement for the loader: zend_extension_ts = /usr/local/www/OllaCart/includes/ioncube/ioncube_loader_fre_5.2_ts.so On my boxes, PHP was built without thread support, so I should have said this: zend_extension = /usr/local/www/OllaCart/includes/ioncube/ioncube_loader_fre_5.2.so Note the (_ts). Now everything is working great. Attention to detail... -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Linux distro
Da Rock wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 23:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot, and never uses standard parts if they can help it. Mercedes? :) Fits the first, dunno about the third. Certainly not the second -- Benz are some of the best-engineered and built cars in existence. Maybe BMW, aka Bunch-a Money Wasted or Bite My Wallet. I wouldn't insult a quality car like that. Ive heard nothing but good stories about them and it's something I'd buy myself. Very safe to drive... Ok. How about the new VW beetle? I've heard they're crap- not as good as the original, expensive, poorly designed, break down a lot, and driven by little teeny boppers with money to waste buying just for the frilly stuff. Does that fit the bill? We'll take a vote- all in favor say aye... :P Might I suggest a 1983 Renault Alliance? The first car I ever owned and it was ... what's the word I'm looking for ... ah yes: horrible! i would have traded it for a VW Beetle any day. :-) -- Chess Griffin GPG Key: 0x0C7558C3 http://www.chessgriffin.com signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: setting X11BASE
--On Thursday, February 21, 2008 23:07:29 -0800 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After updating with portsnap, I am getting an insufficiently-helpful error message: On FreeBSD before 6.2 ports system unfortunately can not set default X11BASE by itself so please help it a bit by setting X11BASE=${LOCALBASE} in make.conf. On the other hand, if you do wish to use non-default X11BASE, please set variable USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE. * Am I correct in *guessing* that make.conf refers to /etc/make.conf? Yes. * What is the value of LOCALBASE? I'm not finding any definition, or other reference, in /etc/make.conf. LOCALBASE is /usr/local unless you've changed it (but then you would already know what it was if you had.) You can find its value in /usr/ports/Mk/ grep LOCALBASE?= /usr/ports/Mk/* /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk:LOCALBASE?= /usr/local * How do I figure out whether I should set USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE? See below. * Why does it even need this? The port I am trying to install ATM (portmaster, to get a handle on the dependency maze) has nothing to do with X11. It needs it because there are ports in the x11/xorg system that are dependencies for ports that have nothing to do with a GUI. Libraries are frequently used to incorporate certain functionalities without having to reinvent an already well vetted wheel. In case it matters, I have not upgraded to the modular Xorg, and would prefer not to go through all that. It ain't broke ... You're going to regret that decision more and more over time. In fact, if you want to stay with the old system, you're probably going to need to put USE_NONDEFAULT_X11BASE?=/usr/X11R6 in your make.conf file to keep your ports from breaking in interesting ways. All the ports are now being built with the assumption that X11BASE==LOCALBASE. Read /usr/ports/UPDATING carefully before proceeding. -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Senior Information Security Analyst The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Linux distro
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this what is desktop system and server system? AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both.. ___ FreeBSD as a desktop compared to other OS's? I think there are technical, community and attitude differences which prevent FreeBSD from competing as a desktop. There is at least very strong consensus in the OpenBSD community and much less in FreeBSD community that the systems are developed by developers for the developer and alike on the base of the technical merit not cheap tricks. I am as a non-developer just getting a free ride. FreeBSD is a free system and doesn't have customers to please. It is developed by the people in their spare time to the best possible for their needs. (They are not necessary the same as yours and mine) Those Desktop users that you want to attract would not benefit from FreeBSD nor FreeBSD community would benefit from them. I wasn't trying to attract users or change anything, just point out that in the context of FreeBSD the difference is not just the different software. It's the difference between what interests the FreeBSD developers and what the average computer user expects. The OP should be aware of this aspect of FreeBSD. Someone else suggested that 'workstation' would be a better word than 'desktop' for FreeBSD. Support for USB devices seems better in Linux too. The number of times people would come in and say why don't you use Linux and I would say FreeBSD is better and they would say well plug this USB ethernet adapter in and see if it works then, and it wouldn't. If you knew how to alter permissions and do auto-mount you would see too. No this is driver support. But yes if it was usb pen drive then devfs.rules, automounter, idesk etc does it. If you want to do video editing on FreeBSD you can't use the main free software application, Cinelerra. It's not ported to FreeBSD and from what I've read it won't be - something to do with ALSA drivers I believe. Please, do not even go there. ALSA vs OSS story is one of the darkest chapters in the Linux development. Read this before we go any further http://4front-tech.com/hannublog/?p=5 Also multimedia functionality generally is far more developed on Mac and windows. yes. So what? OS X is life style operating system. My friends in Apple are making living by pleasing their customers. That is exactly it - it seems FreeBSD people are not generally interested in multimedia, whereas many 'general public' are. Which is not a complaint, just to let the OP know what to expect from a FreeBSD desktop. I would be really interested to know how the FreeBSD kernel compares to the Linux realtime kernel. Are there any recent benchmarks? Something like Kris Kennaway's fantastic mySQL benchmarks presentation? What is your point? Your desktop computer is faster than mine? That is irrelevant for the discussion about FreeBSD on the desktop. Realtime refers to the ability of the computer to present an audio stream and a video stream synchronised in real time and apparently depends on how the kernel does processing, not just how fast your or my computer works. It's very relevant to people who want to work with music or video. By the way, I proudly say as mostly OpenBSD user that OpenBSD scales the worst out of all *nix operating systems. :) I'm sure none of these things are impossible, simply I get the impression they are not very interesting to the people who decide the direction of FreeBSD. There are other differences which I think come down to the overall size of the development community. I'm sure FreeBSD has all the components to allow a nice icon and directory window appear automagically on the desktop when you plug your removeable drive or camera in. It does on mine. You have to know how to configure the damn thing. Yeah. I personally can't be bothered but many people would be completely lost if it didn't. And the size of the development community in Linux and probably Microsoft and Apple allows that and all the other configuration to be done for you. I guess there must be some sort of similarity between the number of people doing Debian development and the number of people doing FreeBSD development. The difference with Linux is that there are hundreds of other dev communities taking Debian or whatever as a starting point and configuring it for different out-of-the-box use. Hence ubuntu and all the others. Hence the PC-BSD, DekstopBSD, TrueBSD, RuFreeSBIE, MidnightBSD and all the others. There are in total over 40 distros based on FreeBSD. At least 10 of them that I know of have as a stated goal to be customized easy to use FreeBSD installation on the Desktop. There are comparatively very few desktop development projects that take FreeBSD as a starting point. With all due
sbc: isa plug-n-play
I have an older hardware system with a newer OS on it :-) It's i386 7.0-RC1 on 440BX / Pentium III. I have the following soundcard in ISA slot on the system: sbc0: Creative SB AWE64 Gold at port 0x220-0x22f,0x330-0x331,0x388-0x38b irq 5 drq 1,5 pnpid CTL00b2 on isa0 sbc0: [GIANT-LOCKED] sbc0: [ITHREAD] pcm0: SB16 DSP 4.16 on sbc0 I believe that the soundcard supports ISA Plug-n-Play. Everything works great. But recently I had an itch to go trough BIOS settings. I spotted one named Plug-n-Play OS and it was set to disabled. I thought what the heck FreeBSD is a Plug-n-Play OS for a long time, so flipped it to enabled. After that no joy, the soundcard stopped to work. It was detected as before, there is no difference in dmesg whatsoever, but it did not generate any interrupts (verified with vmstat -i). And any playback attempt resulted in zero sound and the following message on console: pcm0:virtual:dsp0.vp0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead So I disabled the option again and everything is fine. Practical conclusion: don't do it. Question of curiosity: what is it that BIOS can do with this card that our driver can not ? -- Andriy Gapon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
Mel wrote: On Friday 22 February 2008 04:26:12 Forrest Aldrich wrote: Mel wrote: Your extensions.ini has duplicate and non-existing modules. Start here: mv /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp sort -u /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp |while read MOD; do if test -f /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/${MOD##extension=}; then echo $MOD fi done /usr/local/etc/extensions.ini php -v I've done this and still have a problem with PHP5 dumping core: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/lang/php5]# php -v PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 21:51:01) Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by eAccelerator with Suhosin v0.9.18, Copyright (c) 2002-2006, by Hardened-PHP Project Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) I tried compiling this without eAccelerator, got the same problem. I'm now trying it without the Suhosin enhancements to see if that's the problem - sent a copy of this to the PHP5 port maintainer. Sorry, the internet is global and my pumpkin time was up. Suhosin isn't the problem. What the above did is make sure you have no non-existing modules loading and no modules twice. But the sort order was alphabetic and that's why it still dumps core. Some modules depend on eachother and one needs to be loaded before the other or it goes to hell. Nothing else you can do then figure out the correct order. Experience teaches spl, session and mysqli are common culprits. spl before sqlite before pdo_sqlite before session before mysqli before xmlreader *usually* works. I tried this and still having core dumps. This seems like an odd problem that the PHP folk might need to solve somehow. There must be a way to use the php.core file to determine what's causing it to crash... not something I've had much experience with. If I can determine where it's crashing, then I can have a better sense of what needs to be re-ordered. I noticed over time as I upgraded php modules that it did put in duplicate entries... seems like a bug. Thanks for your help, I appreciate it ;-) Forrest ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Linux distro
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 02:46:39PM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When defining the differences to my clients as to windows, Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ... Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that? I still see the occasional beetle on the roads. I doubt that would be the case if they had to be rebooted a couple of times a day. Do you have a better suggestion? I'd be happy to use it ;) Maybe a Sigma? How about that Trabant (I don't know the seplling) that was made in some eastern bloc country before the wall went down?You were lucky to get from the house to the store in one of those, especially if there was a stop along the way that would require restarting the dead engine because they would not idle. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
On Friday 22 February 2008 17:33:12 Forrest Aldrich wrote: Mel wrote: On Friday 22 February 2008 04:26:12 Forrest Aldrich wrote: Mel wrote: Your extensions.ini has duplicate and non-existing modules. Start here: mv /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp sort -u /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini.bkp |while read MOD; do if test -f /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/${MOD##extension=}; then echo $MOD fi done /usr/local/etc/extensions.ini php -v I've done this and still have a problem with PHP5 dumping core: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/ports/lang/php5]# php -v PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 21:51:01) Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by eAccelerator with Suhosin v0.9.18, Copyright (c) 2002-2006, by Hardened-PHP Project Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) I tried compiling this without eAccelerator, got the same problem. I'm now trying it without the Suhosin enhancements to see if that's the problem - sent a copy of this to the PHP5 port maintainer. Sorry, the internet is global and my pumpkin time was up. Suhosin isn't the problem. What the above did is make sure you have no non-existing modules loading and no modules twice. But the sort order was alphabetic and that's why it still dumps core. Some modules depend on eachother and one needs to be loaded before the other or it goes to hell. Nothing else you can do then figure out the correct order. Experience teaches spl, session and mysqli are common culprits. spl before sqlite before pdo_sqlite before session before mysqli before xmlreader *usually* works. I tried this and still having core dumps. This seems like an odd problem that the PHP folk might need to solve somehow. There must be a way to use the php.core file to determine what's causing it to crash... not something I've had much experience with. If I can determine where it's crashing, then I can have a better sense of what needs to be re-ordered. You can, if you see this: (gdb) bt #0 0x28e4fe5c in ?? () #1 0x2855bb83 in pthread_mutex_destroy () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x285e74fd in __tcf_1 () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 #3 0x2855a97a in __cxa_finalize () from /lib/libc.so.6 #4 0x285e6e4a in __do_global_dtors_aux () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 #5 0x2867a204 in _fini () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 In this case, it was the pspell module. __do_global_dtors_aux is usually the problem - destroying the globals it created. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Linux distro
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:15:00AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Thursday 21 February 2008 23:03, D G Teed wrote: For example, no where in this have I heard a peep about backup software. Anyone serious about IT is serious about backup. Yet there is no support for EMC (Legato) Networker in FreeBSD, and this is why our organization is migrating away from this FreeBSD. Petty quibble: I suspect that you mean ``there is no support for FreeBSD in EMC Networker'' rather than the other way round. Picking a backup solution that can't back up some of your servers, and opting to fix the problem by getting rid of the servers, seems to me to be doing things the wrong way round - irrespective of which OS you're forcing yourself to get rid of. Of course, EMC Networker may be so much better than any other backup solution as to justify the work involved in moving working services to a different platform - I don't know Networker so I can't really comment, although I agree with most of what you said about making sure you pick a platform which supports what you're trying to do. I say most because my own feeling as a sysadmin is that you must have a very good reason to run more than the bare minimum range of operating systems you can - which is an argument for moving away from some platforms if you're already running several. I am in the process of moving from multiple platforms, ranging from Windows NT4, through e-smith (server-in-a-box based on Red Hat), Debian, and FreeBSD, from 4.8 up to date. We are aiming to end up with a bunch of FreeBSD boxes, all using a standard build from a central buildserver, plus one or two boxes running Windows Server 2003 supporting users, who are all running Windows desktops and applications, including apps which run on the server, with clients connecting over the network. It's taken a while but every time we get rid of an old box my workload in supporting the rest of the system drops a little. Note: I'm not saying everyone should standardise on FreeBSD - that's just what I'm most familiar with at the moment, and when I started to move things round we had more FreeBSD servers than anything else, so it made sense to pick that and bring the rest into line, where we were able to, especially because the other OSes were mainly running on hardware which was due for replacement soon anyway, so that the migration could be seen as being in the ordinary course of maintenance and not extra load on busy systems staff. (Sorry: when I realised I'd started my reply with a few lines which by accident were tapering off at the ends I couldn't resist trying to see how long I could keep it up. It's foolish, I know, but it is a fun exercise in picking your words carefully and yet still trying to make sense. If you aren't reading with a fixed width font, you may not be getting the effect of the layout anyway: so if you can't see it, I'm sorry for taking up yet more of your time, just to play about with line lengths and make up pretty patterns in your mail reader. I'll stop now or at least once I can taper down to the length of the given name I sign off with). Jonathan (Whew!) I'm impressed. jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
Mel wrote: You can, if you see this: (gdb) bt #0 0x28e4fe5c in ?? () #1 0x2855bb83 in pthread_mutex_destroy () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x285e74fd in __tcf_1 () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 #3 0x2855a97a in __cxa_finalize () from /lib/libc.so.6 #4 0x285e6e4a in __do_global_dtors_aux () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 #5 0x2867a204 in _fini () from /usr/local/lib/libaspell.so.16 In this case, it was the pspell module. __do_global_dtors_aux is usually the problem - destroying the globals it created. Seems I cannot use GDB on this due to : This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd.../usr/local/etc/php/php.core: not in executable format: File format not recognized I tried doing a strings -a to peek around, but it doesn't tell you much. Thanks... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
Sorry Mel, I should have looked at the manpage before replying. Here is the output I got: # gdb /usr/local/bin/php php.core GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd...(no debugging symbols found)... Core was generated by `php'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypt.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypt.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libxml2.so.5 Reading symbols from /lib/libz.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libz.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libiconv.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/bz2.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/bz2.so Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libbz2.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libbz2.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/calendar.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/calendar.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/pcre.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/ctype.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/ctype.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/spl.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/spl.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/curl.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/curl.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libssl.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/libssl.so.4 Reading symbols from /lib/libcrypto.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/libcrypto.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/dom.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/dom.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/exif.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/exif.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/filter.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/filter.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpcre.so.0 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/ftp.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/ftp.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/gd.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/gd.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libt1.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libt1.so.5 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.9 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libX11.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.4...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXpm.so.4 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libpng.so.5 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so.9...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libjpeg.so.9 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXau.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 Reading symbols from
The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD. Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Note also that the book has now been released for free download in PDF form. Instead of downloading the changed pages, you may prefer to download the entire book. See http://www.lemis.com/grog/Documentation/CFBSD/ for more information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm no longer constantly updating it, but I may be able to help Greg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. === Last update $Date: 2005/08/10 02:21:44 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. = Contents: I:Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction === This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the questions (the hackers). Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions == When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (obviously, substitute your mail address for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send how to questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since then, I have changed it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I were to try to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure
$ grep -i fsck /etc/defaults/rc.conf fsck_y_enable=NO # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen fails. gmirror(8) / geom(8) should automatically remove (degrade) components with bad I/O operations after a certain threshold, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. yes it does ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure
On Sun, 2008-02-03 at 23:39 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: it failed while rebuilding with badly written data on the disk that was used, while other rebuild. now it can't read it. if you are sure that it doesn't pass through fsck before second reboot, do the following. 1) turn off gmirror 2) clear gmirror header on both providers 3) run fsck the other drive (not ad6, but the other used on mirror). Also don't forget about: $ grep -i fsck /etc/defaults/rc.conf fsck_y_enable=NO # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen fails. gmirror(8) / geom(8) should automatically remove (degrade) components with bad I/O operations after a certain threshold, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. ~BAS 4) pray 5) after fsck will end it successfully (it should), create gmirror with the disk you checked gmirror label options gmirror-name /dev/thedisk 6) reboot and start the system. should go well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
On Friday 22 February 2008 17:55:38 Forrest Aldrich wrote: Sorry Mel, I should have looked at the manpage before replying. Here is the output I got: Loaded symbols for /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so Reading symbols from /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/bz2.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. #0 0x28f027c3 in ?? () #1 0x285418fe in _UTF8_init () from /lib/libc.so.6 #2 0x285c6060 in _thread_autoinit_dummy_decl_stub () from /lib/libc.so.6 === #3 0x in ?? () === #4 0x28253d91 in free () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #5 0x0814ee1a in zend_hash_apply_deleter () #6 0x0814ee91 in zend_hash_graceful_reverse_destroy () #7 0x081442d0 in zend_shutdown () #8 0x08104d70 in php_module_shutdown () #9 0x081c8e4c in main () Could you disable the accelerator? Can't say I've seen this one before. Just add a semi colon ';' in front of the module, leave the order in tact. If it still dumps core, then the imap one. You might have to recompile php and all the modules with debugging support to find out what's being free'd there. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure
gmirror(8) / geom(8) should automatically remove (degrade) components with bad I/O operations after a certain threshold, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. but i'm absolutely sure it does because it did several times for me ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
Mel wrote: [ .. ] Could you disable the accelerator? Can't say I've seen this one before. Just add a semi colon ';' in front of the module, leave the order in tact. If it still dumps core, then the imap one. You might have to recompile php and all the modules with debugging support to find out what's being free'd there. Interesting, the extension=eaccelerator.so line went missing in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini, so I added it. NOW all I get is this: # php -v PHP Fatal error: [eAccelerator] eAccelerator 0.9.5.2 can not be loaded twice in Unknown on line 0 but it's not listed twice there. I'll keep looking around do you know where it might be reloading this? Thanks, Forrest ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
Mel, I found the duplicate entry, which was in /usr/local/etc/php.ini: ; Zend Extensions zend_extension=/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so eaccelerator.shm_size=16 eaccelerator.cache_dir=/var/eaccelerator eaccelerator.enable=1 eaccelerator.optimizer=1 eaccelerator.check_mtime=1 eaccelerator.debug=0 eaccelerator.filter= eaccelerator.shm_max=0 eaccelerator.shm_ttl=0 eaccelerator.shm_prune_period=0 eaccelerator.shm_only=0 eaccelerator.compress=1 eaccelerator.compress_level=9 I commented out the zend_extension, leaving it in /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini. I'll try commenting out imap next. Still getting: # php -v PHP 5.2.5 with Suhosin-Patch 0.9.6.2 (cli) (built: Feb 21 2008 22:45:11) Copyright (c) 1997-2007 The PHP Group Zend Engine v2.2.0, Copyright (c) 1998-2007 Zend Technologies with eAccelerator v0.9.5.2, Copyright (c) 2004-2006 eAccelerator, by eAccelerator Segmentation fault: 11 (core dumped) Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
I took a shortcut and decided to comment out all extensions but these: extension=mysql.so extension=mysqli.so extension=eaccelerator.so Now I run php -v and get this: # php -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so' - /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so: Undefined symbol spl_ce_RuntimeException in Unknown on line 0 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so: Undefined symbol php_session_register_module The mysqli.so is there: -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 116892 Feb 21 23:45 /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so Could be I need to enable another extension to satisfy the last issue with the variable, though I wonder if this is a hint at what might be wrong... Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: $ grep -i fsck /etc/defaults/rc.conf fsck_y_enable=NO # Set to YES to do fsck -y if the initial preen fails. gmirror(8) / geom(8) should automatically remove (degrade) components with bad I/O operations after a certain threshold, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. yes it does Maybe my experiences didn't his the threshold. I'm checking the code now. The threshold is likely compile-time adjusable. ~BAS ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!
Hello, Thanks for all of the Help!!! Ryan Jenkins P.O. Box 21138 P: 406 896-9900 F: 406 896-0045 C: 406 208-8193 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidentiality Statement: This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. -Original Message- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:51 PM To: Ryan Jenkins Cc: 'Jerry McAllister'; 'Erich Dollansky'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 03:42:52PM -0700, Ryan Jenkins wrote: Jerry, or Erich, I am wondering how I could Download the FreeBSD OS to a disk, so I could try and install it on the computers I am trying to get to work? Could you give me some pointers on the process? This is well documented in the FreeBSD Handbook which you can see online by going to the FreeBSD web site. It you are going to install from CD, then you can download the ISO[s] using anonymous ftp from ftp.freebsd.org You will need to fish around (cd) in their directories a bit to find the ISOs, but what you want is disc1 for version 6.3. Download it to a machine with a CD burner. Then burn the image as it is. Don't try to convert it to an ISO. It is already an ISO. If you do not have network access, then you will need to download the first two CD ISOs and use them. Plug in the CD and boot it and the adventure begins. If you must boot from floppies, then download the two floppy images and write them to formatted floppies as per the handbook instructions. Boot them and go from there. You will need network access. jerry Ryan Jenkins P.O. Box 21138 P: 406 896-9900 F: 406 896-0045 C: 406 208-8193 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidentiality Statement: This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. -Original Message- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:59 PM To: Erich Dollansky Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:48:28AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, HP, IBM, Lenovo, Toshiba plus all the PC built around standard components will do. If you would be a bit more specific about price, speed and function of the machine, we could help you better. Yes. Any servers from those vendors will work. Plus, there are a couple of companies that claim to produce systems expecially for running FreeBSD servers. Some are: http://www.freedomtc.com/ http://www.ixsystems.com/ http://www.ironsystems.com/index.asp They don't limit themselves to FreeBSD, but they claim support for it. jerry You might will have problems getting certain machines without operating system. Erich Ryan Jenkins wrote: Hello, I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD Operating System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. Right now I am having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that can make a system that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a product from MPC or Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no Operating System, but my programmers are having a hard time with getting the software loaded on the system. Can you please help me find a supplier that builds Desktop or All-in-One computers that will operate FreeBSD. Ryan Jenkins
Re: automatic fsck on gmirror failure
On Fri, 22 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: gmirror(8) / geom(8) should automatically remove (degrade) components with bad I/O operations after a certain threshold, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. but i'm absolutely sure it does because it did several times for me Finally I had some time to research. 939 of geom_mirror -- kern.geom.mirror.disconnect_on_failure -- It's a newer 6.x thing apparently: Behavior is not tunable. It happens on a single failure. I ask about tunable behavior because some cheap IDE (Maxtor) disks can fail, then recover. 6.3/amd64: [EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src-RELENG_6_3]# sysctl -a|grep -i kern.geom.mirror kern.geom.mirror.sync_requests: 2 kern.geom.mirror.disconnect_on_failure: 1 kern.geom.mirror.idletime: 5 kern.geom.mirror.timeout: 4 kern.geom.mirror.debug: 0 But: FreeBSD wingspan 5.5-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 5.5-RELEASE-p10 #0: Fri Jan 12 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/seklecki$ sysctl -a|grep -i kern.geom.mirror kern.geom.mirror.debug: 0 kern.geom.mirror.timeout: 0 kern.geom.mirror.idletime: 5 kern.geom.mirror.reqs_per_sync: 5 kern.geom.mirror.syncs_per_sec: 1000 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Forrest Aldrich wrote: I took a shortcut and decided to comment out all extensions but these: extension=mysql.so extension=mysqli.so extension=eaccelerator.so Now I run php -v and get this: # php -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so' - /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so: Undefined symbol spl_ce_RuntimeException in Unknown on line 0 /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/eaccelerator.so: Undefined symbol php_session_register_module The mysqli.so is there: -r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 116892 Feb 21 23:45 /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so Could be I need to enable another extension to satisfy the last issue with the variable, though I wonder if this is a hint at what might be wrong... Hmmm... I've been thinking about methods to make sure the load order of PHP modules avoids this sort of problem. Can you try the following and see if it helps? # cp /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini{,.bak} # cd /usr/local/lib/php/20060613 # lorder *.so | tsort | tail -r | sed -e 's/^/extension=/' /usr/local/etc/php/extensions.ini Oh, and yes, you do need the php5-spl module to be installed. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHvw+n8Mjk52CukIwRCEbjAJ9EUwIAJ9m9Y8riNvZd/EHIBbt+0wCfat7r /CMlt9c6goJwWKUwIspr1pE= =Oke5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
On Friday 22 February 2008 18:36:59 Forrest Aldrich wrote: I took a shortcut and decided to comment out all extensions but these: extension=mysql.so extension=mysqli.so extension=eaccelerator.so Now I run php -v and get this: # php -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so' - /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so: Undefined symbol spl_ce_RuntimeException in Unknown on line 0 ^^^ Mysqli needs spl. It uses it's exception code among others. -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
Mel wrote: On Friday 22 February 2008 18:36:59 Forrest Aldrich wrote: I took a shortcut and decided to comment out all extensions but these: extension=mysql.so extension=mysqli.so extension=eaccelerator.so Now I run php -v and get this: # php -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so' - /usr/local/lib/php/20060613/mysqli.so: Undefined symbol spl_ce_RuntimeException in Unknown on line 0 ^^^ Mysqli needs spl. It uses it's exception code among others. I'm going to remove all of the PHP5 code and extensions and start all over again and see what happens Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mounting FS read-only for specific user (or root)
Mel wrote: On Thursday 21 February 2008 20:32:37 Andrew Bradford wrote: Erik Norgaard escribió: I assume the reasoning for this is you want to preserve permissions and attributes on your backup, so you can't solve this simply by setting permissions appropriately. Yes, exactly. Users need to be able to see their own backups, and nobody else's. Isn't this what acl's are for? See setfacl(8). I haven't looked into it in great detail but seems to me that if you make a subdir owned by the user for each backup root for that user and set the acl to only be accessible by user, it should work. After playing around with this for a bit, I took Erik's suggestion of mounting the backup directory rw in a root-specific area. I didn't think it would work, but my understanding of the permission structure in UNIX is flawed, and it does work :) The setup, for those interested, is as follows: disk2 mounted read-write in /root/.backup /root/.backup mounted using nullfs read-only in /backups drwx-- root wheel /root drwxr-xr-x root wheel /root/.backup drwxr-xr-x root wheel /backups This way, the permissions on /root prevents normal users from writing to the backup mount underneath it, even though they may own files and have write permissions on those files. The permissions of the mount point allow users to view the contents and restore files, but not write to it because the nullfs mount (/backups) is read-only. General users are unable to write to the read-write mount point (/root/.backup) because the permission of the parent directory (/root) is 700. This allows the backup process to write to the backup filesystem, yet still prevents normal users from writing to it. I think this setup could be improved as I'm simply relying on file permissions to keep the backup filesystem read-only for normal users. The problem is not having the ability to mount a filesystem read-write for a specific user -- regardless of the permissions of files on that filesystem. Thanks Erik and Mel for the help with this! Andrew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
Mel, I recompiled php5 with debugging enabled; but it seems the FreeBSD php5-extensions build ignores this flag and compiles the extensions as-is. No option in their makefile. Anyway, here's the output... I don't think it really says much than before. Thanks, Forrest # php -v PHP Warning: PHP Startup: pdf: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: session: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: bz2: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: calendar: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: ctype: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: curl: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: pcre: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: SimpleXML: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: SPL: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: dom: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: exif: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: filter: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: ftp: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: gd: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: gettext: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: gmp: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: hash: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: iconv: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: imap: Unable to initialize module Module compiled with module API=20060613, debug=0, thread-safety=0 PHPcompiled with module API=20060613, debug=1, thread-safety=0 These options need to match in Unknown on line 0 PHP Warning: PHP Startup: json: Unable to initialize module
tape splitter
anybody know program to split data (from stdin) on tapes like that something|splittotapes /dev/sa0 and then concattapes /dev/sa0 |something i know dump do this, but i need other thing to be written to more than 1 tape. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 6.3-STABLE Apache 2.0 uses high CPU when restarted....
Mel, etc., I downgraded my system back to MySQL-4.1 (where I had updated to MySQL-5.1) and this has solved the problem. Lesson: don't upgrade your FreeBSD-6.3/Apache-2.0 system to MySQL-5.x without making sure it works first ;-) Of course, there was no way I could have predicted this problem. I suspect it would work fine on Linux, however. I didn't really solve the problem specifically - in terms of the error, but this worked. Thanks for your help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP!!!!
Jerry or Erich, Do you know if FreeBSD will support the following Chipset and Soft Bridge Controller? Chipset: Intel Q965 Soft Bridge Controller: Intel ICH8DO Ryan Jenkins P.O. Box 21138 P: 406 896-9900 F: 406 896-0045 C: 406 208-8193 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidentiality Statement: This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. -Original Message- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 5:51 PM To: Ryan Jenkins Cc: 'Jerry McAllister'; 'Erich Dollansky'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 03:42:52PM -0700, Ryan Jenkins wrote: Jerry, or Erich, I am wondering how I could Download the FreeBSD OS to a disk, so I could try and install it on the computers I am trying to get to work? Could you give me some pointers on the process? This is well documented in the FreeBSD Handbook which you can see online by going to the FreeBSD web site. It you are going to install from CD, then you can download the ISO[s] using anonymous ftp from ftp.freebsd.org You will need to fish around (cd) in their directories a bit to find the ISOs, but what you want is disc1 for version 6.3. Download it to a machine with a CD burner. Then burn the image as it is. Don't try to convert it to an ISO. It is already an ISO. If you do not have network access, then you will need to download the first two CD ISOs and use them. Plug in the CD and boot it and the adventure begins. If you must boot from floppies, then download the two floppy images and write them to formatted floppies as per the handbook instructions. Boot them and go from there. You will need network access. jerry Ryan Jenkins P.O. Box 21138 P: 406 896-9900 F: 406 896-0045 C: 406 208-8193 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Confidentiality Statement: This e-mail contains confidential information which also may be privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not copy, use, disclose, or distribute the e-mail message or any information contained in the message. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please advise the sender by replying to this message or by telephone and then promptly delete it. -Original Message- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:59 PM To: Erich Dollansky Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Computers that us FreeBSD. HELP On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:48:28AM +0800, Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, HP, IBM, Lenovo, Toshiba plus all the PC built around standard components will do. If you would be a bit more specific about price, speed and function of the machine, we could help you better. Yes. Any servers from those vendors will work. Plus, there are a couple of companies that claim to produce systems expecially for running FreeBSD servers. Some are: http://www.freedomtc.com/ http://www.ixsystems.com/ http://www.ironsystems.com/index.asp They don't limit themselves to FreeBSD, but they claim support for it. jerry You might will have problems getting certain machines without operating system. Erich Ryan Jenkins wrote: Hello, I currently have a Computer System that is based off the FreeBSD Operating System and I am trying to find a new supplier of hardware. Right now I am having a hard time finding a Computer Manufacture that can make a system that uses FreeBSD. I currently have found a product from MPC or Micron/Gateway that creates systems with no Operating System, but my programmers are having a hard time with getting the software loaded on the system. Can you please help me find a supplier that builds Desktop or All-in-One computers that will operate FreeBSD.
Re: tape splitter
At 01:23 PM 2/22/2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: anybody know program to split data (from stdin) on tapes like that something|splittotapes /dev/sa0 and then concattapes /dev/sa0 |something i know dump do this, but i need other thing to be written to more than 1 tape. Well sonny in the old days we would create a volume with tar or cpio, then uuencode it, then run it through split. You could then move the split pieces onto removable media and reassemble it on another system. To put split piece back together you just cat them: cat split2 split2 total.uu then uudecode it to restore the original file. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD diskless workstation and over the network installation via PXE
Hello, Am new to FreeBSD and relatively new to linux; I have a CentOS 5.1 PXE/tftpd/dhcpd server; I'd like it to be the build/PXE server where a bunch of 1U clients could PXE boot and run: 1. diskless over NFS-Root In googling, seems like there is a clone script that preps and lets you generate a root file system structure and let your clients boot off the network. I checked the Free BSD Handbook (Chapter 29) where extensive documentation on setup is outlined, but it assumes that the PXE/TFTP/NFS/DHCPd servers are FreeBSD; mine is a CentOS; just want to support diskless PXE boot for my clients. Section 29.7.2.9.2 9Usning a Non-FreeBSD server - just indicates that do a tar/cpio of root; but ensure that special files in /dev are taken care of ... my question - - does anyone have this type of scenario setup? if so, can you please share with me your insights/cheat-sheet-how to? - i'd be interested in understanding the setup of how you handled copying the /dev files into your exported ROOT directorty ... Are there any other recommendations ? thanks in advance! -- best, Vince ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
StorEdge L8+FreeBSD 6.2
Hi everybody, I need to configure a Sun Storedge L8 tape library in a box running FreeBSD 6.2, could you please point me to some links or how-to's to be able to start? Please answer directly to my e-mail address because I'm not (yet) subscribed to this list. Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tape splitter
On Friday, February 22, 2008, at 02:07PM, Derek Ragona [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 01:23 PM 2/22/2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote: anybody know program to split data (from stdin) on tapes like that something|splittotapes /dev/sa0 and then concattapes /dev/sa0 |something i know dump do this, but i need other thing to be written to more than 1 tape. Well sonny in the old days we would create a volume with tar or cpio, then uuencode it, then run it through split. I believe gtar ( /usr/ports/archivers/gtar if I recall correctly) can do this directly. See the manual for more details: http://www.gnu.org/software/tar/manual/tar.html#SEC153 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling SoGo on FreeBSD
Has anyone had luck compiling the SoGo calendaring server on FreeBSD-6.3? I've found it quite involved and difficult, especially with the GNUstep dependencies. http://www.inverse.ca/english/contributions/sogo.html. Thanks in advance. _F ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Linux distro
On 2/22/08, Jonathan McKeown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Petty quibble: I suspect that you mean ``there is no support for FreeBSD in EMC Networker'' rather than the other way round. Picking a backup solution that can't back up some of your servers, and opting to fix the problem by getting rid of the servers, seems to me to be doing things the wrong way round - irrespective of which OS you're forcing yourself to get rid of. Well, we are not going to ditch the Windows Servers, nor run 2 backup solutions, so FreeBSD must go. We do have the client that someone made for Legato 6.0 some time ago and we are using that. A bug report appeared that the default configure for the client was insecure. It wasn't fixed after a year and the FBSD resolution was to drop the client from FBSD packages. Legato didn't make that FBSD legato 6.0 client package. Someone clever from within the FreeBSD developers made it based on how the package for Linux worked. From the pattern that followed, it seems that developer or contributor didn't maintain it afterward. So from our perspective, FreeBSD dropped something we have relied on to make FreeBSD doable in our server room. I know, there are always people who will say: you can't complain, you go fix it, but I'm sorry I'm not able to spend the time on it. After all, not everyone who flies is a pilot, and no one builds a plane only for pilots. I don't hate BSD - at home I run a sparcstation with NetBSD. --Donald ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
usb4bsd vs. stock ucom/umodem drivers and pantech px-500
So in 6.3-RELEASE-p1 both amd64 and i386 I am getting 25K/sec off my sprint EVDO pcmcia card. This is an order of magnitude drop vs. 6.2-R and 7.0-RC1 7.0 had a habit of panicing after a few minutes of heavy transfer, so I ended up downgrading to 6.3-R. In a search for a solution I gave usb4bsd a try and am back to normal speeds (250K/sec) I'm not sure there is a question here, more just something for other people to google. -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5A8C 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years.
Predrag Punosevac wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Predrag Punosevac Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 10:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DJ500 dead after = 16 years. Predrag Punosevac wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I need some input about what kind of _new_ printer to buy for my desktops. I'd like to hang the printer off my FBSD box; my Ubuntu platform is probably too far away. At least 3 meters. A few months ago I got a Samsung ML-2571N for well under $100 at Fry's. It is small, light, fast; has a built-in 10/100 network port, handles PostScript, and speaks native lpr What is lpr? Usually printers speak Post Script or PCL printer command language in which case you need a driver. LPD, LPRng, and CUPS are different spooling systems. Did you attach the printer to a computer or is acting as a free standing printer server. There is a lpr driver by Brother for Linux. Brother and Canon have binary blob drivers. Did you use that driver may be? Does anyone know if those binary blobs can be useful for anything on FreeBSD. They appear to be wrappers for standard Ghost Script drivers. They aren't wrappers. The binary drivers generally take the intermediate output from the Ghostscript ijs driver and convert it into whatever the printer understands. If the binary driver is statically built then it likely can be run by the linuxulator under FreeBSD. Most of the time the binary drivers are wrapped in an install script that sets all this up. I will actually try to do that as soon as I get my hands on one of those Brother printers and see if I can get it to work on FreeBSD and OpenBSD. Of course, I will definitely try to set up my wife's Photosmart C5250 with only using LPD:-) Thanks one more time Tad! Predrag Ted, Would you be so kind to comment on something. According to HPLIP web-site in order to unlock the FULL functionality of all-in-one device one has to use CUPS? quote: *Question: How are HPLIP and HPIJS related?* Answer: HPIJS is a subcomponent of HPLIP. HPIJS provides basic printing support for non-postscript printers. HPIJS can operate in any spooler environment (including no spooler). HPIJS provides no I/O. HPLIP provides I/O for bi-directional communication, scanning, photo card access, and toolbox functionality. HPLIP requires the CUPS spooler. end of quote. Call me stupid but I do not understand the above. I have used probably as you and many other people HPIJS with LPD. HPIJS are included in HPLIP so I would guess that I could use even the same printcap file with HPLIP and it should work. If I want to unlock scanning I need the hpaio backhands for SANE and they are included in HPLIP. Now why the hack do we need the CUPS. Is it possible that idiotic HP-toolbox talks only IPP so that one can not actually get the status of the toner, paper, and other advanced functions unless use CUPS? I really apologize for bothering you but I really want to understand how HPLIP works. Best, Predrag Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tape splitter
uuencode it, then run it through split. You could then move the split pieces onto removable media and reassemble it on another system. To put split piece back together you just cat them: cat split2 split2 total.uu then uudecode it to restore the original file. i know this but it makes temporary files i would like to avoid. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CRASH:sleeping thread owns a non-sleepable lock
i'm running my program (bash script to be exact), that does process URL list by fetching each one with curl and then process etc.. to make it faster i run 30-40 of them in parallel to maximize speed, as often there are network stalls and doing many transfers in parallel speed it up. all is run with nice -n 20 to not interfere too much with other tasks. it runs on Core2Duo SMP system with 6.2p11/amd64 the script takes some CPU time so system it's quite loaded. when i first start it it takes about 25% user time and 20% system time. after half a day doing exactly the same thing, network having same load, after processing few millions URL, system time jumps to over 50%, idle gets close to zero, system load goes up. that's strange but it goes on, after about next half a day system crashes with sleeping thread owns a non-sleepable lock. no core dump, after panic kernel hangs. is there a fix for that? unix is for running multiple parallel tasks, so it should not cause crashes! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]