Re: Best Blog Ap in the Ports?

2007-01-27 Thread bobmc

 - Original Message - 
 From: bobmc [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: FreeBSD Questions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:49 PM
 Subject: Re: Best Blog Ap in the Ports?

 Tuareg wrote:
   
 On 1/26/07, eoghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 On 26 Jan 2007, at 17:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 What is the best blog ap in the ports tree?  I was thinking of
 starting a
 blog on my server for my Chemistry Students.
   
 Since blogs and wikis are typically written in high-level such as PHP
 and Perl, a port to a specific UNIX type OS should not be necessary.  Do
 you know about LAMP?  Linux, Apache, MySQL, and ( Perl | PHP).  Scratch
 out Linux and you will find that AMP runs anywhere. Call it BSD-AMP if
 you like. I expect it will support your blogs and wikis very well.

 There is a certain amount of hype about LAMP probably started by some
 Linux advocate not realizing that the valuable abstraction is being
 obscured.  -BobMc-

 Ryan Wrote:-  Drupal (http://drupal.org/), it's a more than just a blog ap.
Drupal is fine software but it is complex and overkill for a blog  -BobMc-

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Re: FreeBSD 5.2.1 won't run with ATI RADEON

2007-01-27 Thread bobmc
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello:

 I am new to Unix and purchased a copy of FreeBSD 5.2.1 from Fry's to begin 
 learning. FreeBSD is used at my work and I wish to learn the OS myself. 
Perhaps this is a political situation where person(s) at work who
already have BSD skills do not have the time to help or the organization
structure makes that unfeasible.  Anyway,  your initiative is commendable.
 After installation the 'startx' command will not start the GUI KDE. I get an 
 error message ' no screens found'.
   
Assuming you have created an account for yourself,  create a .xinitrc
file in your directory with:-

X 
exec startkde

.. but the X server must be configured first from the root account.
 I have tried all the combinations of horizontal-vertical sync that are within 
 the range of my monitor but all fail. 
What do you mean by fail? It could be distorted display or none at all. 
Try  as root:-

X -configure#creates a file prints on the console
cd # root directory
X -config xorg.conf.new

If you can't move an X on the screeen with a mouse. Hit
ctrl-alt-backspace and try a change in xorg.conf.new

- in section Screen enter -   DefaultDepth 24
- in subsection Display under Depth 24
  enter Modes 1280x1024

If ok, cp xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf

 Since I am completely new to Unix I do not know how to send you the log file. 

   
That's ok, because X creates a big file

 I found that with Suse, if I installed 
 at the lowest resolution the OS would resolve the problem during the first 
 boot 
 and reset the resolution to the max. size. FreeBSD does not do this.

 Can anyone help?
 Brenda Powers   
   
Results depend upon the combination of your video card and monitor.
Recent Linux distributions feature a lot of scripts and daemon programs
to figure out all these combinations.  BSD stays relatively baggage-free
by asking you to do a few manual procedures which are usually
straight-forward.   -BobMc-

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Re: Best Blog Ap in the Ports?

2007-01-26 Thread bobmc
Tuareg wrote:
 On 1/26/07, eoghan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 26 Jan 2007, at 17:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What is the best blog ap in the ports tree?  I was thinking of
  starting a
  blog on my server for my Chemistry Students.
Since blogs and wikis are typically written in high-level such as PHP
and Perl, a port to a specific UNIX type OS should not be necessary.  Do
you know about LAMP?  Linux, Apache, MySQL, and ( Perl | PHP).  Scratch
out Linux and you will find that AMP runs anywhere. Call it BSD-AMP if
you like. I expect it will support your blogs and wikis very well. 

There is a certain amount of hype about LAMP probably started by some
Linux advocate not realizing that the valuable abstraction is being
obscured.  -BobMc-

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Re: Manufacturer documented wireless NIC's

2007-01-21 Thread bobmc
Patrick Bowen wrote:
 Could anyone tell me who the manufacturers are that support their
 chips with documentation available to FreeBSD for the writing of
 drivers, please. 
I have two computers with VIA 6102 for ethernet. One is a EPIA Mini-itx
and the
CD included has a FreeBSD driver.  One might expect  the VIA driver to be
better than the free offering from an engineering student but I can't
tell that
from looking at the code while not knowing the hardware.  You can get specs
from VIA by filling out a form and telling a good story.  But it seems
VIA thinks they are doing a favor.

The point of this little tale is to question what support means.  It
looks like you
can't ship the VIA driver with BSD because of restrictions in the
source.  I would
only call it support if the ViA product pages included BSD along with
Windows and
Linux already listed as compatible OSes.  And if they contributed
quality drivers
to the 'BSD distributions.  It would be beneficial for VIA and BSD.

Cheers,  -BobMc-


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Re: PCBSD 6.2 -- How to Install Second CD?

2007-01-21 Thread bobmc
Benjamin Sher wrote:
 Dear Bob:

 I rebooted PCBSD with the first Install CD and chose Upgrade. It went ahead 
 and repaired and upgraded my system but at the end of the road I did not see 
 any mention of installing the second CD. I also didn't see it at the end of 
 my original install. What am I doing wrong, please. 

 Are all of the applications on the second CD available from PBI or from the 
 packages on FreeBSD?

 Hope you can help.
 Thank you.
 Benjamin

   
Perhaps you are not certain of the CD contents. CD1 is for installing
the kernel and shells.  CD2 has applications and utilities called
ports.  ( Correct me if I am not exactly right!) Remove CD1 after
install and then reboot. Next run sysinstall. Select Configure -- Do
post-install configuration.. . Then choose Packages -- install
pre-packaged. Insert CD2 before you press enter on this menu item.

Please direct your queries directly to the list so that you get better
quality answers.

Good Luck!-BobMc-



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Re: Loosing Ethernet Connectivity

2007-01-21 Thread bobmc
David Schulz wrote:
 Hello all,

 every once in a while i have a machine (6.1) that out of the blue,
 sometimes after days, some after 6 months, looses Ethernet Connectivity. 
When something is frequently erratic, suspect software.  But your
problem looks like intermittent hardware.  I have observed that the LAN
will be marked down if you boot without it connected. Then if you
connect the LAN and click a web bookmark, it will recover automatically
without human intervention.

CAT5 LAN cables with RJ45 plugs are not very  robust. And people tend to
handle them carelessly... stepping on them, tripping over them etc. They
are usually single strand copper which can break inside the insulation
with frequent flexing. The RJ45 plugs have poor strain relief such that
the outer insulation pulls out of the plug creating another failure point.

So for vexing problems like yours, I would examine the hardware very
closely.

Cheers, -BobMc-


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Re: Hairy Cats and mice and FreeBSD

2007-01-20 Thread bobmc
Bob wrote:
  
 Hi:

 I Live with a very hairy, large, Main Coon cat called Tania; she sheds
 tons of fine hair all over the place. She is a Mouser, and proudly rids
 our home (a boat) of all sorts of mice. Unfortunately she also kills
 Computer mice! Therein lies my problem.

 I have been replacing mechanical mice at the rate of one per month, by
 just going to the local radio shack and buying one of their cheapest
 PS2 mice, and replacing the hair-locked-up one.

 Recently. RS has cheapened their mouse design, so the inner rollers are
 now about 1/2 the diameter of the old ones. This modification has
 limited a mouse's life here to about one week!
  
 What I want to do is replace this mechanical mouse with an optical
 mouse. RadioShack sells one, with the proper Windowz driver. I am
 running  FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-p10 #2 however! 
  
 If I go to Radio Shack, and buy their optical mouse, will I be able to
 configure it to work with my KDE/FreeBSD system? This device is not
 cheap! 
  
 Anyone with experience using their optical mouse under FreeBSD? All
 input will be very much appreciated.
  
 Mouse-less on the Atlantic
 Bob

   
I have a Microsoft Optical Intellimouse for PS/2 or USB.  It works fine
except for the scroll-wheel. But I have not got around to configuring
X to make it work. I doubt if FreeBSD cares which mouse you have.

The mouse has a tiny hole in the bottom which gathers hair. It can be
removed with a puff of breath.  I also use a mechanical keyboard which
can be cleaned.  Don't bother trying to clean hairballs from these
rubber-mat keyboards.

Oh, the mouse is listed at $31.99 on tigerdirect.ca

-BobMc-


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Re: FreeBSD challenged by Internet

2007-01-18 Thread bobmc
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 Hi Bob,

   As I am ad administrator of an ISP that is a DSL
 ISP that offers DSL, and also runs FreeBSD on it's
 servers, I am going to address your point.

  The problem your having is present on MANY of
 these some box(s) which connects me to to net
 Generally, it's older Linksys and Netgear routers that
 are the worst offenders.  The newer devices don't
 generally have this problem - the manufacturers aren't
 completely stupid, and do learn from their mistakes -
 bot not always.  I'm still seeing stupid crap like this in
 even the latest boxes.

 Now, here's where I'm going to take you somewhat to
 task.  You have to understand some things about marketing
 these boxes.

 When a company like Airlink101 produces a
 cable/DSL ethernet router and sells it for $30,
 or a company like 2 Wire, or Westell, or ActionTec,
 produces a DSL modem/router combo that sells
 for $60, it is absolutely impossible for them to make
 a profit doing this unless they configure their support
 offering so that the quality of technical support you
 get is on the level of that which would be provided by
 your average 6 year old.  Also, these companies simply
 cannot afford to put their best programming and design
 talent on solving things like slow DNS resolver queries
 through their proxy, when these problems are reported.

 Instead when they get these problems, they spend the
 RD money and talent they have building next year's
 model - which is then sold for another $30, next year.

 Slow DNS queries are just one of the problems on a
 very long, long, long laundry list of problems with these
 small cheapo routers.

 Yet, do the customers that actually have these devices,
 after going through 2 or 3 of them in that many years,
 actually stop one day and say Gee, I'm really stupid
 to keep urinating my money away on these cheezy
 little routers when I could spend $600 on a nice new
 Cisco 800 series and get expert Cisco support on it, and
 it would work and I could then just forget about it

 Of course not.  So, who do you think ends up picking
 up the slack?  I'll tell you, it's us ISP's that's who.

 If you were our DSL customer and you called in with
 this problem, we would have known immediately what
 it was, and instructed you in how to correct the configuration.
 In your case the absolute best way is to ditch your
 router and turn on pppoe on your BSD box and config
 your DSL modem out of routing mode and into bridging
 mode.  Or your cable modem, or whatever.

 You wouldn't get that as a response if you were running
 Windows - since Windows attracts security crackers like
 dog shit attracts flies - but any UNIX - be it Linux, MacOS X
 or whatever, you would get that response.

 Anyway, I think you should have availed yourself of your ISP's
 tech support department first.   And if your ISP's support
 department stinks - some unfortunately do - then drop service
 and get a better one.  There's plenty more ISP's in the
 phone book.

 Ted

 - Original Message - 
 From: Bob McIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:32 PM
 Subject: FreeBSD challenged by Internet


   
 Hi:

 This is not exactly a question rather it is wrapup for a
 series of questions.  I had a tricky, confusing problem
 getting FreeBSD on the net but I was able to solve it
 with help from this list.. Ian Smith in particular.

 blah,blah.
 
Hi Ted:

Thanks for your thoughtful reply.  My ISP has or used to have
some kind of optical modem in the basement. There was a
direct RJ45 LAN cable from there to my condo. Two years
ago they provided a Cayman 3300 Broadband Gateway modem
for my computer jack. So they probably swapped other
equipment between me and the 'net.  But this setup worked the
same with Linux and old win98.

But FreeBSD was not pleased with this setup. Perhaps it was
ISP hardware, ISP configuration, or some error within BSD.
But I cannot determine root cause.  I just know that BSD does
not accept a private IP as being from a nameserver. So DNS
requests must be routed to an actual nameserver. And that
requires altering the DHCP lease in my case.

My setup works but it is still outputting IPv6 packets.  The
logic expressed within /etc says that IPv6 is disabled by
default.  Another mystery.

Cheers,
-Bob-


PS:  You top-poster... how did you get away with it?
:-)


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Re: [OT] advice on wikis and bulletin boards

2007-01-12 Thread bobmc
Andrew Gould wrote:
 Strategic planning will be starting soon at my new place of employment, and 
 I'd like to setup a place on our intranet to facilitate discussions and 
 planning prior to meetings to reduce meeting times and make meetings more 
 productive.  This would be a new activity for this organization, so we'll 
 start with just our own office.  User permissions will be needed for security.

 I've used bulletin boards before (phpbb); but they don't seem to be well 
 designed for group editing of documents.  I've noticed that wiki's have 
 become very popular; but I'm not sure how well they facilitate discussions.

 Does anyone have any advice or suggestions?

 Thanks,

 Andrew L. Gould
   
I installed Apache and http://www.oddmuse.org/cgi-bin/wiki on FreeBSD.
You have to install it in cgi-bin, create group www, and look at httpd.conf
to see where files should be.  I also used it to create a website
http://www.bobmc.net/cgi-bin/Goalie.pl/WikiVerse

There are tons of wikis available. The most famous is MediaWiki for
Wikipedia.  But oddmuse is only one Perl script that works anywhere.

MoinMoin has a nice balance between eyecandy and ease of use. You see it
on some open-source sites. I also like DokuWiki

Since it is so easy to create wiki pages, the challenge is to prevent a
spaghetti-ball forming. Read all about it starting at
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WelcomeVisitors where it all started
Also, a wiki is social software which some people are shy about using.
Setting one up is like boiling a frog,  you have to do it slowly.

For minutes of meetings you can setup a mailing list like this one but
in notification mode.

For documentation, several dedicated wikis can be setup. Think about
a page naming scheme that is consistent for your purpose.

Cheers,
-BobMc-


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Re: UDP ok but TCP delayed

2007-01-11 Thread bobmc
Hi Ian:

(I post to the list because your's bounced? The Postfix program
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: host gaia.nimnet.asn.au[203.41.52.131] said: 
550 Access denied (in reply to MAIL FROM command)


Thanks for your reply. Compared to Linux tcpdump, FreeBSD is issuing 
extra packets, those  you mentioned.  I have a Netopia modem 
with RJ45 to a router or optical modem in the condo basement. From 
there is an optical link to my ISP about 10km away who provides nothing 
but email forwarding, a DHCP lease, and an internet connect.

I have included dumps from Linux and FreeBSD but I have not yet 
finished all the tests you suggested.  IPv6 is not enabled according to 
the /etc/defaults. I tinkered with various options without making a 
difference.

Thank you,
-Bob-

whois fcibroadband.com
   Domain Name: FCIBROADBAND.COM
   Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC.
   Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
   Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
   Name Server: DNS-01.FUTUREWAY.COM
   Name Server: DNS-03.FUTUREWAY.COM
   Status: clientTransferProhibited

 Domain servers in listed order:

   DNS-01.FUTUREWAY.COM 64.119.104.2
   DNS-03.FUTUREWAY.COM 64.119.104.130

+++ Linux tcpdump 
uname -a
Linux buffy 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Wed Jul 19 12:14:26 EDT 2006 i686
GNU/Linux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] tcpdump -v
tcpdump: listening on eth0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96
bytes

21:44:49.547037 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 13665, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: UDP (17), length: 61)
192.168.1.100.1032  192.168.1.254.domain:  44611+ A? www.freebsd.org. (33)

21:44:49.567857 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 13670, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: UDP (17), length: 72)
192.168.1.100.1033  192.168.1.254.domain:  16632+ PTR?
254.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa. (44)

21:44:49.633987 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 240, offset 0, flags [none],
proto: UDP (17), length: 173)
192.168.1.254.domain  192.168.1.100.1032:  44611 1/4/0 www.freebsd.org.
A www.freebsd.org (145)

21:44:49.644775 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 31888, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: TCP (6), length: 52)
192.168.1.100.3587  www.freebsd.org.www:
S, cksum 0xc114 (correct), 3828632041:3828632041(0)
win 5840 mss 1460,nop,nop,sackOK,nop,wscale 2

21:44:49.726336 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  56, id 27781, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto:
TCP (6), length: 48)
www.freebsd.org.www  192.168.1.100.3587:
S, cksum 0x7cc5 (correct), 3180712628:3180712628(0) ack 3828632042
win 57344 mss 1408,nop,wscale 0

21:44:49.726416 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 31889, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: TCP (6), length: 40)
192.168.1.100.3587  www.freebsd.org.www: .,
cksum 0x82a2 (correct), ack 1 win 1460

21:44:49.726516 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 31890, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto: TCP (6), length: 578)
192.168.1.100.3587  www.freebsd.org.www: P 1:539(538) ack 1 win 1460

...etc

--- FreeBSD version 
$ uname -a
FreeBSD buffy.feline.cat 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0:
Sun May  7 04:32:43 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

$ ifconfig -a
vr0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   inet6 fe80::240:63ff:fee6:41ba%vr0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
   inet 192.168.1.102 netmask 0xff00
   broadcast 255.255.255.255
   ether 00:40:63:e6:41:ba
   media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
   status: active
plip0: flags=108810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST,NEEDSGIANT mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 16384
   inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
   inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
   inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00

lease {
 interface vr0;
 fixed-address 192.168.1.102;
 option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0;
 option routers 192.168.1.254;
 option domain-name-servers 192.168.1.254;
 option broadcast-address 255.255.255.255;
 option dhcp-lease-time 3600;
 option dhcp-message-type 5;
 option dhcp-server-identifier 192.168.1.254;
 option dhcp-renewal-time 1800;
 option dhcp-rebinding-time 3150;
 renew 4 2007/1/11 04:57:09;
 rebind 4 2007/1/11 05:19:39;
 expire 4 2007/1/11 05:27:09;
}

buffy# tcpdump -vv
tcpdump: listening on vr0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size 96
bytes
22:29:06.250801 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 81, offset 0, flags [none],
proto: UDP (17), length: 61)
192.168.1.102.50460  192.168.1.254.domain:
[udp sum ok]  53280+ A? www.freebsd.org. (33)

22:29:06.257223 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 255, id 761, offset 0,
flags [none], proto: UDP (17), length: 205)
192.168.1.254.domain  192.168.1.102.50460:  53280
q: A? www.freebsd.org. 1/4/2 www.freebsd.org.
A www.freebsd.org ns: freebsd.org.[|domain]

22:29:06.260101 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 82, offset 0,
flags [none], proto: UDP (17), length: 61)
192.168.1.102.55466  192.168.1.254.domain:
[udp sum ok]  53281+ ? www.freebsd.org. (33)

22:29:07.086122 IP (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 83, offset 0,
flags [none], proto: UDP (17), length: 72)
192.168.1.102.62917  

Re: Why is sysinstall considered end-of-life?

2007-01-07 Thread bobmc
Ivan Voras wrote:
 Mark Lu wrote:
   
 I've read up a few things stating that sysinstall is at its
 end-of-life and there are plans to replace it. I'm wondering about the
 reasons or rationale behind this. Even today, sysinstall seems to work
 extremely well as an easy-to-use, simple, and stable tool for the
 installation of FreeBSD. None of the features seem limiting or
 outdated to me. So, why is there a move to find a replacement or
 something? Software shouldn't be replaced for the sole reason of being
 old if it works, right
 Two reasons AFAIK:

 
---
A previous reply said:

As I understand the discussion: among others, because there are
features people want to add that don't fit in the current model.
(Personally, I think there are also points where the correct user
behavior is not intuitively obvious.)   ---Robert Huff

--
Then Ivan said
 1. it simply doesn't even know how deal with the more modern features
 like GEOM  RAID, more advanced authentication mechanisms (nsswitch),
 and devices like sound cards (there are many more in this list...)
 2. it's way past what's currently considered user friendly  


 

The end-of-life phrase appears in one of the article pages and even in the
sysinstall man-page.  Perhaps someone started a rumour which became
gospel to someone else.

This page - http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.1R/todo.html mentions a
desired improvement (not replacement!) for sysinstall. Since replacement is
not imminent, perhaps issue tracking should be used to encourage and
manage modest improvements that would enhance it's appeal.

It is said to be a monolithic program.. perhaps it is trying to do too much.

-Bob-

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Re: network tuning and performance troubleshooting

2007-01-05 Thread bobmc
Ian Smith wrote:
   Message: 18
   Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 18:05:27 -0500
   From: Bob McIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   Doug Hardie wrote:
   
On Jan 3, 2007, at 22:57, Bob McIsaac wrote:
   
Problem: Browser status 'looking up address' for 10 seconds for any
web page clicked. Slashdot takes almost a minute to load. But FTP
performance is good and running a shoutcast stream is no problem.
Sending mail via my ISP is slow.
   
Investigation: -  sysctl -a  | grep net | less shows a ton of 
variables
with values assigned. Ping of nameserver assigned by dhcp takes 0.5ms.
Ping of freebsd.org = 90ms. Nothing obvious in loader.conf or
rc.conf  (defaults).  /var/log/messages has only startup info.
   
Question: - How to solve this thorny performance problem?  -Bob-
   
You might want to run tcpdump and monitor one of those slow loads.  
Include the timestamp in the output and see what it is doing during 
that time.  I would tend to suspect DNS timeouts.
   
   
   tcpdump confirms there is a ten second delay as seen on the browser.
   1. there are some UDP packets to/from the nameserver.
   2. nothing happens for ten seconds
   3. now there is a TCP connection
   
   tcpdump: listening on vr0, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet),
   
   17:34:07.537419 proto: UDP (17)
 192.168.1.102.53032  192.168.1.254.domain: 
 45959+ A? www.google.ca. (31)

 You ask 192.168.1.254 - presumably your gateway, and/or internal DNS
 server? - for www.google.ca's IPv4 address. 
  
   17:34:07.545218 IP proto: UDP (17)
 192.168.1.254.domain  192.168.1.102.53032: 
 45959 6/7/4 www.google.ca. CNAME[|domain]

 It's a CNAME.  Not sure if you got the right IP address there, though
 from the later (after delay) connect to google.com, I suppose so ..

   17:34:07.545500 IP proto: UDP (17)
 192.168.1.102.64463  192.168.1.254.domain: 
 45960+ ? www.google.ca. (31)

 Then you ask for www.google.ca's IPv6 address.  Do you really want that? 
 You get no response on that, but maybe you're prepared to wait for it,
 ie are you somehow relying on getting an IPv6 address, and if so, why? 

   17:34:07.868410 IP proto: UDP (17)
 192.168.1.102.61375  192.168.1.254.domain: 
 48085+ PTR? 254.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa. (44)

 You then ask for your gateway's IP address, by name.  Hmm.  But you get
 no response to that query.  Looks like you're about to wait for one ..
 ~4.6 seconds later you're still waiting, and you ask again .. 

   17:34:12.545947 IP proto: UDP (17)
 192.168.1.102.54649  192.168.1.254.domain: 
 45960+ ? www.google.ca. (31)

 .. for that IPv6 address, and then you ask again ..

   17:34:12.868866 IP proto: UDP (17)
 192.168.1.102.55840  192.168.1.254.domain: 
 48085+ PTR? 254.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa. (44)

 .. for your gateway's IP address from its name.  No answer.

nothing happens for 10 seconds?? 

 .. and then you appear to contact google.com successfully.

   17:34:22.546051
 (tos 0x0, ttl  64, id 226, offset 0, flags [DF],
 proto: TCP (6), length: 64)
 192.168.1.102.52363  qb-in-f147.google.com.http: S,
 cksum 0x3aa5 (correct),
 1762925400:1762925400(0) win 65535 mss 1460,
 nop,wscale 1,
 nop,nop,timestamp 1758025 0,sackOK,eol

 Are you obliged to use 192.168.1.254 for DNS?  The  queries aside
 (which it should quickly NAK if it doesn't handle them), it seems broken
 if it can't resolve it's own reverse DNS?  Can you use your upstream
 provider's DNS server/s instead (ie in resolv.conf)?  Is your IP fixed
 or DHCP-assigned?  If the latter, with or without auto DNS assignment? 

 Cheers, Ian
   

Are you obliged to use 192.168.1.254 for DNS? ...

This is the address from my ISP placed in /etc/resolv.conf
during DHCP

.. for that IPv6 address, and then you ask again ..
 17:34:12.868866 IP proto: UDP (17)
   192.168.1.102.55840  192.168.1.254.domain: 
   48085+ PTR? 254.1.168.192.in-addr.arpa. (44)
.. for your gateway's IP address from its name.  No answer.

I did not select IPv6 during FreeBSD install and /etc/defaults/rc.conf
defaults to off.  According to the notes in /etc/hosts.allow, reverse
lookup is done to mitigate hacker tricks.

Thanks for the details. Is it possible that this is some kind of
silent hardware-driver issue that confuses the system APIs?  -Bob-

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Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

2007-01-03 Thread bobmc
Rob Hurle wrote:
 On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, bobmc wrote:

 After KDE is installed, startx still launches the twm default
 X manager.  Diligent RTFM only tells me it should work once the
 Xserver is configured for the video hardware and monitor.

 I have:
 export LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
 exec startkde
  as the last lines in my ~/.xinitrc file.  There's a few other lines
 to do with my Vietnamese keyboard input, but that's it.

Ok, that's a step forward since I put your startkde item in my .xinitrc.
However, KDE said unable to connect to X server until I included
X .  It works but something is still amiss. There is no KDE splash
background
and it seems kinda slow.

   ## .xinitrc
X 
exec startkde

## WindowMaker can be used instead of X  \ startkde ##
#xclock -geometry 50x50-1-1 
#xdaemon2 -geometry +0-70 
#wmaker #no  here!-BobMc-




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Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

2007-01-03 Thread bobmc
dick hoogendijk wrote:
 On 03 Jan Paul Schmehl wrote:
   
 Try this.  Edit /etc/ttys thus:
 ttyv8   /usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon  xterm   on secure
 

 According to the kdm manual you should *not* use the -nodaemon
 Why do you?

   
After install, ttyv8 names xdm and says it is off. Changing it per the email
causes periodic prints on the text console making it unusable. So I left it
at the original setting.  -BobMc-


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Re: Easier way to install on 3ware 9550 card?

2007-01-03 Thread bobmc
Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
 On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a new system with NO FLOPPY CONTROLLER and a 3ware 9550
 card.  It's a 1u system -- sticking extra things into PCI slots
 as a workaround is likely to be impossible.

 Any possibility of using a USB floppy drive?

 Will the BSD installer recognize a USB floppy drive?

 3) Adding the kldload command to the emergency holographic shell
 (I was able to do an NFS mount from within it, but had no way to
 load the driver).

 Maybe put kldload on that NFS mount along with the module to be
 loaded, and run it from there?

 I had considered that, but feared hitting version issues.  Obviously
 sysinstall needs both mount and kldload functionality -- why
 aren't they in the emergency shell (For that matter, why isn't ls?)

 If this many years later we're still emulating floppies, there's a
 problem, folks.

 -Dan

Dan: If this many years later we're still emulating floppies.

Hey, it works for Slackware  :-)

You reminded me of the following article which stated (in 2004) that
sysinstall
was semioffically at end of life?  -Bob-

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/fbsd-from-scratch/why.html


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Re: FreeBSD Installer vs RedHat Linux Fedora Core Installer?

2007-01-03 Thread bobmc

   Bill Moran wrote:

In response to Peter aka SweetPete [1][EMAIL PROTECTED]:



Hello, I used to be on this mailing list several years ago, and have
recently rejoined.

[2]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-sysinstall.h
tml
[3]http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/main1.png

   vs.

[4]http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/install-guide/fc6/en/ch-beginninginstallation.
html#sn-booting-from-disc
[5]http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/install-guide/fc6/en/figs/bootprompt.png

Could I begin a thread (now) about a comparison (and relatively
inferiorness) of the following two installers please??  I WOULD run
FreeBSD at home instead of Fedora if the installer were more .erm,
Microsoftly.

Do you among the developer circle hear this kind of thing from time to time?


This seems to come up over and over again.  About every other month.

The developers are aware of it.  The general consensus is that yes, our
installer could be nicer/prettier/easier/etc

However, until someone either takes the time to write a better one, or
foots some cash to get a better one written, or blackmails a developer
in to doing it or something else, we still have what we have.

I think the biggest problem is that the installer is good enough -- so
nobody is particularly interested in rewriting it until it's not good
enough any more -- even though it could be better.



   Coincidently, issue 68 of linuxuser.co.uk has a positive review of
   Fedora 6.
   But Cons: Anacoda installer is clumsy and poorly designed, due for a
   major overhaul.  (in the reviewer's opinion).  It looks fine to me?
   I like Mepis Linux for it's superior usability and attention to
   detail. But in
   FreeBSD I am looking for a lightweight efficient OS that can run a
   media
   management system (TBD) on a low-power Mini-ITX computer.
   IMO, iterative and incremental developement in the FOSS way is more
   effective than paradigm shift.  Therefore, the existing sysinstall
   program
   can be improved by setting up a mini-project to do just that.
   I am sure there are plenty of ideas to improve usability.  How about
   replacing most of these sequential dialogues with  tabbed panels where
   you
   can check settings in any order?  -Bob-

References

   1. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   2. 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/using-sysinstall.html
   3. 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/main1.png
   4. 
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/install-guide/fc6/en/ch-beginninginstallation.html#sn-booting-from-disc
   5. http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/install-guide/fc6/en/figs/bootprompt.png
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Re: FreeBSD on Mini-ITX has web page latency

2007-01-02 Thread bobmc
Well, it seems that the driver and the hardware works so there must be
a problem in the generic part of the software.  There are plenty of tools
for networking analysis but I am not a networking adept. So I will
carefully repeat the install.  Thanks.  -Bob-

BTW, my other computer is a Biostar Ideq SFF with Via chipsets. FreeBSD
reports a 6102 ethernet but cannot map the interrupt. Instead it wants to
emulate ethernet on FireWire.  But that is for another day.  :-)

Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Bob McIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 FreeBSD using Konqueor or Lynx takes more than 10 seconds.  This is puzzling 
 since ftp transfers at 400kbs, pings of freebsd.org take 80ms, and top shows 
 CPU is 93% idle.
   

 I take it, then, that FreeBSD is the web client, not the server?  
 Have you checked for whether the delays are being caused by name
 service, before the HTTP session is even started?
   
 This is for a EPIA-CN13 mini-itx with .5gb memory.
 Note the message log sees a VT6102 LAN but the board has a 6103. Perhaps 
 that explains the problem. Otherwise, it must be a protocol issue.
 
 A similarly identified interface works okay for me on my Via C3
 board.  Admittedly, they are lousy chips, but you should't notice for
 most purposes.

   

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starting KDE after install .. -not-

2007-01-02 Thread bobmc
After KDE is installed, startx still launches the twm default
X manager.  Diligent RTFM only tells me it should work once the
Xserver is configured for the video hardware and monitor.

WindowMaker provides a pleasant GUI once I create a $HOME/.xinitrc
file. Firefox and Thunderbird work fine. However, nowhere can I find
instructions for the complete integration of KDE and I am missing the
use of K3b and other useful apps included with KDE. -Bob-

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Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

2007-01-02 Thread bobmc
Paul Schmehl wrote:
 --On January 3, 2007 12:46:10 AM -0500 bobmc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 After KDE is installed, startx still launches the twm default
 X manager.  Diligent RTFM only tells me it should work once the
 Xserver is configured for the video hardware and monitor.

 WindowMaker provides a pleasant GUI once I create a $HOME/.xinitrc
 file. Firefox and Thunderbird work fine. However, nowhere can I find
 instructions for the complete integration of KDE and I am missing the
 use of K3b and other useful apps included with KDE. -Bob-

 Try this.  Edit /etc/ttys thus:
 ttyv8   /usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon  xterm   on secure

 From the Handbook.

 Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
 Senior Information Security Analyst
 The University of Texas at Dallas
 http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Thank you for the clue .. it was set to xdm. However, xdm hides the console
to present a graphical login.  I am trying to launch KDE after logging in so
changing /etc/ttys has no effect.-Bob-

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