Re: still can't resolve these system reboots... help please
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 07:28 pm, Chris Howells wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Hi, | | On Wednesday 05 March 2003 19:35, Tuc wrote: | So the next question is how do I approach Dell to replace | the motherboard/cpu/memory? If I show them FreeBSD they'll laugh. | | Oh dear, that's bad news. | | See http://developer.kde.org/~howells/inspiron for the battle I had | against Dell regarding trying to run Linux on a (brand new) faulty | Dell laptop. That is amazing and disheartening since I actually originally starting using Dell laptops because when I bought my first one they were about the only major manufacturor which *did* promise that their equipment would work with Linux. And shortly thereafter they started selling them with Linux pre-installed. Of course about a year later they stopped selling them with Linux, but I didn't realize that they'd gone completely over to the dark side. Actually, I notice that their website still offers Linux driver downloads for machines as recent as the 8000, so it was claerly still supported when I got my current machine. Hate to think I might have to find another company for my next computer. Do NOT buy a Compaq, whatever you do. Officially Compaq technical support disclaims any responsibility if you've installed *software* on it. The conversation: you mean you don't support it if you've installed another *operating* *system*, right? if you've installed any software that didn't come with it. A . . what? . . I . . . you're kidding . . . ok, never mind. I'd like an RMA number, please. Ok, . . . . Thank heavens it went belly-up in the first two weeks while I could still return it for any reason . . . Before I got the Dell I researched to make sure that wouldn't happen again. But before I got the last one I didn't RE-research to see if they had completely changed their tune. Guess I've been lucky :-) -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: still can't resolve these system reboots... help please
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 07:30 pm, Chris Howells wrote: | -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- | Hash: SHA1 | | Hi, | | On Wednesday 05 March 2003 19:44, Bill Moran wrote: | Hell ... just install ActivePerl and write a perl script that does | lots and lots of number crunching (it need not be anything useful) | or install SETI and see if it crashes Windows. | | When I had a hardware problem with Dell like this one, they insisted | that there could only be a problem if there was an issue with the | installed software. If it was self-installed, then it had to be | faulty software not hardware. FWIW, when I called Dell with a problem of this nature, they had me use (or perhaps download) a testing utility -- which was self-booting and did not require *any* operating system to run. I ran that, it confirmed that the hardware was indeed faulty, and then they happily replaced it. A lot depends on how clueful a person you get in tech support, but if they are not clueful, either try again and hope for better luck or request a test utility that they would accept. Getting the O/S issue out of the way simplifies things greatly. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Portupgrade -- revisited
On Sunday 02 March 2003 02:22 pm, Cliff Sarginson wrote: | At the risk of being accused of a complainer.. | I will state here that my experiments in the use of portupgrade, have | left me without a useable X system. | Guess it is back to the CD's. | Will the ports maintainers *please* make sure they release compilable | ports..especially for the big mothers like X/KDE. This was just much-discussed in STABLE. I've had a similar experience to yours, though many people gave ways to make it work. What *I* do is is just mass upgrade OR none-- I do the kernel/world thing for my base system, save my current ports with pkg_info -aI, pkg_delete '*', wipe out /usr/local, then go over the packages I saved and remove the version numbers, and do (on a copy of hte file where I saved them, delete any that i must build from ports (eg, local patches) 1,$s/^/pkg_add -r/ 1,$s/[0-9].*$// Check for sanity, and then script source the file . . . then check the script file and build from ports any that failed, take any special actions, and install my local mods (and build from ports those that I need to). YMMV; lots of people swear by portupgrade. But I've had better luck with it. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Portupgrade -- revisited
On Sunday 02 March 2003 03:01 pm, Cliff Sarginson wrote: | On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 01:49:21PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: | In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] typed: | Will the ports maintainers *please* make sure they release | compilable ports..especially for the big mothers like X/KDE. | | I'm sure they do. However, they can't test in your environment. The | X ports built fine for me. I don't use KDE, so haven't tried to | build that. If you send the maintainer a note with the error | messages when you tried to build the port, they might be able to | fix it. A generic it didn't build on -questions almost certainly | means that nothing will happen. | | Ok Mike, I really do always respect your advice. | I want as much as anyone else that things *work*. | I do not mind geting my hand dirty, if it improves things. | But I think, after reflecting on it, that the ports system is in a | mess. I will see if I can be more positive about improving it. | But I am dmned if I am going to learn Ruby :) I would disgree that the ports system in general is a mess; indeed, I think it's about the best single thing about FreeBSD. It *is* true that upgrading is a problem but I dont' believe that this is the fault of the ports system; indeed, the real problem is that versioning on shared libraries is inadequate. And there is only so much that the ports system can do about it. As long as that problem remains, then ANY attempt to do partial upgrades can only aspire to succeed most of the time; it can never be reliable no matter HOW smart the ports system or portupgrade becomes. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: SoftUpdates on /
On Friday 21 February 2003 08:10 am, Alistair Phillips wrote: | Hi guys, | | So I enabled SoftUpdates when I was busy with FDISK at the install | time and now it seems like it may have been a bad idea. Now I know | 4GB is not much but it seems that there is no more space left. And | at times df -h will tell me there is -180MB available on / ! [ Dont | get me wrong here, I am | not saying that SoftUpdates is causing me lack of space. ] Softupdates don't take up any more or less space than not having them; just have too much stuff installed. Softupdates can cause *transient failures to find space, but if you still have too little space after five minutes, then softupdates has nothing to do with it. And softupdates work much *better* on large partitions than small ones; with a 4G partition the transient space loss problem is virtually non-existant; the reason that they disabled by default on / is almost certainly because the / is usually *small*, not large. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: from GNOME to KDE
On Friday 21 February 2003 07:42 pm, Gary D Kline wrote: | On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 07:01:55PM -0500, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: | On Friday 21 February 2003 03:25 pm, Gary D Kline wrote: | | On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 11:24:34AM -0800, David Cramblett wrote: | | if you have KDE installed, try the program switchdesk on Linux. | | | | Well, I asked for Gnome and that's all my friend | | installed. | | | | Where can I pull down a KDE3 *.rpm file? | | (This is RH v 8.0, so KDE3 should work if | | I can find it. | | Umm . . . if this is RH 8.0 why are you posting on a FreeBSD list? | | For Freebsd, the easiest thing to do (thought it doesn't actually | get the *latest* KDE) is | | pkg_add -r kde3 | | Or, if you have more time to install it (this is easy but it takes | a LOT of time--many hours), you can get 3.1 with | | cd /usr/ports/*/kde3 | make install | | Well, I'd like to get KDE on one of my platforms. At least | one reason KDE3 fails here is that the newest QT is broken. I | could get an earlier vrsion, but I'll wait. Are you sure? I installed it from ports just a couple of days ago, and the current (ported) Qt and kde3 worked just fine for me. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: from GNOME to KDE
On Friday 21 February 2003 03:25 pm, Gary D Kline wrote: | On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 11:24:34AM -0800, David Cramblett wrote: | if you have KDE installed, try the program switchdesk on Linux. | | Well, I asked for Gnome and that's all my friend | installed. | | Where can I pull down a KDE3 *.rpm file? | (This is RH v 8.0, so KDE3 should work if | I can find it. Umm . . . if this is RH 8.0 why are you posting on a FreeBSD list? For Freebsd, the easiest thing to do (thought it doesn't actually get the *latest* KDE) is pkg_add -r kde3 Or, if you have more time to install it (this is easy but it takes a LOT of time--many hours), you can get 3.1 with cd /usr/ports/*/kde3 make install But for Linux, you are on the wrong list, I'm afraid. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: from GNOME to KDE
Oh, well, what I did was get out of my X entirely to console mode, then pkg_delete 'qt*' 'kde*' and then build it from ports. This worked great, and my experience trying to do that sort of thing piecemeal has not been good. Alternatively you could set an alternate prefix for the new QT and then try to get KDE to use the alternate prefix as its load library location but my record trying that sort of thing has not been good. On Friday 21 February 2003 08:15 pm, Gary D Kline wrote: | On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 07:59:04PM -0500, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: | On Friday 21 February 2003 07:42 pm, Gary D Kline wrote: | | On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 07:01:55PM -0500, Brian T. Schellenberger | | wrote: | | Well, I'd like to get KDE on one of my platforms. At least | | one reason KDE3 fails here is that the newest QT is broken. I | | could get an earlier vrsion, but I'll wait. | | Are you sure? I installed it from ports just a couple of days ago, | and the current (ported) Qt and kde3 worked just fine for me. | | cut/paste | | kdebase-3.1.tar.bz2 doesn't seem to exist in | /usr/ports/distfiles/KDE. Attempting to fetch from | ftp://ftp.us.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.1/src/. | | Receiving kdebase-3.1.tar.bz2 (14887352 bytes): 100% | 14887352 bytes transferred in 1115.4 seconds (13.03 kBps) | === Extracting for kdebase-3.1_1 | | Checksum OK for KDE/kdebase-3.1.tar.bz2. | | === kdebase-3.1_1 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/bin/moc - not found | ===Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/bin/moc in | /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/qt31 | === qt-3.1.1_2 is marked as broken: You have QT2 headers installed! | Installing this port will result in conflicts between QT3 and QT2!. | *** Error code 1 | | | What's going to happen if I pkg_delete QT2? Is qt-3.1.1_2 | broken for-real, or this is message because of the headers? | | I'm guilty of having not chcked the Makefile. | | gary | | PS: My ports tree is auto-upgraded every day... . -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: openoffice too large
I would suggest installing staroffice instead. You can install it from binaries so you don't have to compile it. In my experience it runs a lot faster better than openoffice as well. I had installed openoffice but wound up dumping it in favor of staroffice myself. On Tuesday 18 February 2003 10:30 am, Brian Henning wrote: | Hello- | I am trying to install openoffice from the ports on to a machine that | only has a 4 gig hard drive. During the installation it say it | requires at least 4 gigs of free space to install. Obviously i cannot | have that much free space, is there a way to get it installed on this | computer with my situation? | | thanks, | | brian | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: problem burning with burncd
burncd is for IDE burners. Use cdrecord for SCSI. On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:17 am, David Loszewski wrote: | When I try to burn with my Plextor scsi cdrom drive I get the | following: | | zeus# burncd -f /dev/cd1 -s 12 data 4.7-disc1.iso fixate | burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCGETBLOCKSIZE): Inappropriate ioctl for device | | | ideas? | | Dave | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: vnc at start-up
No, not the vncserver script, the init script that invokes vncserver. In fact, if you simply replace the line that says vncserver with the *exact* syntax I put in, it will work. THe parentheses start a local environment and the PATH adds to the path for that environment and then invokes vncserver with the richer environment that will make it happy. (PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin; vncserver) On Thursday 30 January 2003 01:30 am, you wrote: | At 10:12 AM 1/30/03, you wrote: | (PATH=$PATH:/usr/X11R6/bin; vncserver) | | -- | Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) | | I think you are telling my I should edit the vncserver script to | modify the PATH environment variable. OK, that sound right. | | Thank you. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
ICQ?
I tried a couple of FreeBSD ICQ clients but they wanted me to tell them my ICQ ID. Well, I don't have one yet.. How do you get one in the first place? -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: VNC
On Thursday 12 December 2002 03:45 pm, Brian wrote: | getting vnc to start at boot is tricky, since you want it to start as | some user, rather than as root. A solution I've been thinking of is | looking at the output os ps auxw, grepping for Xvnc owned by the | desired user, if its there exit, if not run vncserver as the user in | question. Putting it in cron with a /8 to check every 8 minutes | seems a good idea. My *guess* is that you would always want the server to start as the *same* user, if you want it to start at boot. In that case, it's quite simple, at least in theory (meaning, I haven't done this). If that is the only user who will *ever* want to own the server, then just make that user the owner of vnc and set the suid bit. If you want to keep the default vnc server with the usual owner (root?), then just create a hardlink used for the startup command and suid *that* as above. | | Bri | | On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Daniel HARTMANN wrote: | Bonjour, | | J'utilise vnc vers ma machine Freebsd. | | Mais comment démarrer vncserver automatiquement au boot sans | taper la commande ?? | | Merci | | | | | | Dany_H ;-) | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: handling .exe self-extracting archives (Was: vmware)
I've used zip (quite recently in fact) to extract .exe archives. No idea why/when it does/doesn't work, though. On Thursday 10 October 2002 11:52 am, Nathan Kinkade wrote: | On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:08:12AM -0500, Doug Poland wrote: | Nathan Kinkade said: | I had Win2k Pro installed on the vmware2 port just a few days | ago, everything seemed to work find including networking. | However, I unistalled the whole thing as it is a big ugly beast - | both vmware and win2k. By the way, does anyone know of a | reasonable way to get at the contents of *.exe self-extracting | archives. This problem was what led me to fiddle with vmware in | the first place. | | Nathan, | | unzip from ports works well. There's also a pkzip port that will | probably do the job | | -- | Regards, | Doug | | Doug, | I tried unzip, but it didn't work. Kept compaining that it wasn't | a valid archive. I know it was a good archive because I later | extracted the very same one with vmware2/Win2k. I found all | sorts of info about creating SFX archives and about `unzipsfx', | but nothing that worked for a regular .exe self-extracting archive. | I've had people tell me that unzip may work sometimes, but under | what conditions I'm not sure. | | I saw the pkzip port, but I couldn't find info anywhere telling me | that it would extract .exe formated self-extracting archives. Have | you used either of these tools recently to extract these types of | pernicious archives? | | Thanks, | Nathan | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Power
On Monday 07 October 2002 09:19 am, Pookie wrote: | How does FreeBSD handle itself when i disconnect the power plug on my | laptop? I'm not sure how this works. Can someone please direct me in | the proper direction? Why would FreeBSD have to do anything? Your laptop should handle it itself down in the hardware. If you have apm enabled, then FreeBSD's apm calls can *discover* that the power is now coming from the battery rather than the plug, but the operating system isn't called upon to *do* anything. The proepr directions are to plug unplug at will . . . if you want to monitor the status properly, enable apm in your kernel and in your rc.conf. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: burncd error
On Friday 04 October 2002 04:49 pm, Marco Beishuizen wrote: | On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, the wise Oliver Fromme spoke, and said: | Marco Beishuizen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |That did the trick. I wrote a file to the cd and fixate worked |correctly. At least I think it did, because when I want to mount |the cd to look at it, mount gives me an invalid argument |error. | |So my new problem is how to access a cd-rw with data on it. | | What kind of file did you write to the CD? Of course, it | has to be an image of a supported filesystem (usually an | ISO9660 image), otherwise you wouldn't be able to mount it. | You can only mount filesystems. | | To create an ISO9660 filesystem image, use mkisofs (from | the ports collection). Afterwards, use burncd to write | that image to a CD-R or CD-RW. | | You can, of course, write an arbitrary file (a .tar file or | whatever) to a CD, but then you can't mount it. You can | read it back with dd, though. | | Regards | Oliver | | Yes, I wrote an arbitrary file to the cd. A .pdf file actually. I | already thought the mount error had something to do with a missing | filesystem or something like that. | | I want to use the cd-writer to make periodic backups of important | files. The easiest thing to do would be to just copy the files with | burncd, like I did with the .pdf file. But it looks that I have to do | a bit more than that to use the cd-writer as a backup medium. | | I think I have to learn more about mkisofs and creating images etc. | :-) | | Marco If you want to back up with burncd, I suggest using cdbackup which is a program I wrote. If I can get some feedback on it I'll try to make it into a proper port. For now, it is self-contained; just type cdbackup when you get it and put it where you want it to live and it should install itself. Use the -h option for help. Let me know if you have any questions. And if others want to try it out, let me know. It's 70K, so I'm going to send it just to Marco (and any others who request it), not to the entire list. It support incremental backups; it does not support appending to an open CD, though I could consider adding that in the future, I suppose. In my case my problem is that I have far more files than there is a spaced on a CD, rather than vice-versa, so that's the problem it's mainly meant to solve. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: local patches with buildworld ?
On Monday 30 September 2002 09:32 pm, éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ wrote: | Dear Sirs, | | every time I do make buildworld, I usually apply several patches, | is it possible to specify somewhere those patches ? I'm afraid I'll | forget to apply them once... Well, the patches really only need to be applied when you cvsup, not when you make, right? (Because just making doesn't change the source, which is what the patches change.) What I do is to have my own shell script which I use instead of cvsup'ing directly. It can then do any special customization either before or after the cvsup. In your case, it would cvsup and then apply the patches. | | Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) | Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Booting from a CD-ROM
Or just boot off disk 2 of the distribution which is a live filesystem rescue CD. Then run boot0cfg to re-install the bootloader. On Sunday 29 September 2002 09:22 am, Jimmy Lantz wrote: | Check out liveCD | livecd.sourceforge.net. | / Hth | | At 18:26 2002-09-29 +0800, you wrote: | Hello all, | |I can't search the archives for a solution. I thought I give this | list a try. | |WinXP screwed me last night and I'm forced to reinstall it. I | totally forgot |that I already have a FreeBSD installation on it and realized | only after I |installed it that I would not be able to boot if off because | WinXP MBR had already |overridden it with its own. I don't have floppy on this system, | only CD-ROM. | |I notice there's an option boot: I assume, for selecting | kernel after booting |off from a FreeBSD CD. How do I make use of the option? Do I | need to include |the specific disk and slice. I have 3 disks da0, da1 and ad0 | according to BIOS |ordering. FreeBSD stays in da1 and the kernel resides at | /kernels/kernel-new. I |read from the handbook that boot2 stage spawns off loader | or boot3 stage |depending on the parameters. Also it explains up until unload | and set kernel, |if possible I want to use loader because I've done a few | customizations in |loader.conf which I don't know how to make it out without using a | loader. | |Thanks in advance. | | -- | Thank you for your time, | Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim | | __ | Do You Yahoo!? | Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free | http://sbc.yahoo.com | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: How to shut down cleanly by killing power
On Friday 27 September 2002 07:01 am, Petri Riihikallio wrote: | h I use apcupsd from ports which has shown to be very | reliable and has great docs. It has been months since I looked at | this stuff, but remember something like this issue you make was | covered in detail. | | Thanks, good pointer: | http://www.apcupsd.com/users_manual/shutdown.html discusses the | problem. In RedHat the disks are mounted back read-only at shutdown. | I'll have to check how the FreeBSD port implements this. | | I don't have any BIOS conflict that you mention that | will fight the daemons. They will shut down even if the power | returns if the minimum has been reached or exceeded. There are also | other settings that check things and allow the machines to resume | proper operation -- however, once the doomsday point is reached | -- the shutdown -p now will prevail. It will then require manual | restarts of those that are shut down. | | I don't want to argue, but.. | | I have no BIOS conflict per se. I have just set up my BIOS to boot | the system when power appears. The problem is: What happens if power | never disappears? The fact of the matter is that if the timing is *just* wrong you probably can't automatically recover. How likely is that to happen? But, if you want to be super safe, then you should be able to shutdown rather than than shutdown -h or shutdown -p. This should do most of the steps of shutdown and get all the users off to make partitions non-busy. It may even umount all the partitions; I can't quite recall. Then it will start up /bin/sh. I can't recall whether /bin/sh will run any of the 'normal' startup scripts under this circumstance, but even if it does not you can replace it with a munged one that does . . . But the idea would be that on power-down you set a special powering-down file just before you issue the shutdown. The /bin/csh startup scripts check and if that is set, they go into shutdown mode, which umounts all but the root partition, remount the root partition read-only, and then the simply sleep for 120 seconds or so, and then shutdown -r now. (Of course it should remove that special marker file before it does anything else lest the system go into a loop.) Now, one of two things happens: either you really *did* power off, in which case the sleep never wakes up, because without power it can't go on. Then when you get power back, the BIOS does its thing and you reboot. Or the power never went off, in which after two minutes everything reboots. | | shutdown -p now kills apcupsd before it turns the power off. There | is a time frame when there is no monitoring software running. If | power returns in that time frame, you have to boot up manually. In | RedHat Linux apcupsd is run once more in single-user mode with | /etc/apcupsd/apccontrol killpower. | | It appears you could test your setup with /etc/apcupsd/apccontrol | doshutdown. Do not pull the plug, just let the software shut down | the system. If it reboots after a while - you have no problem. The | while depends on shutdown grace delay, which value you can check | with apcaccess eeprom. I have a dumb BackUPS, so I don't have any | delay. | | Thank you for your time! -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: powering down
Yes, I believe that they do. On Friday 27 September 2002 08:16 am, John Bleichert wrote: | On Thu, 26 Sep 2002, Jack L. Stone wrote: | Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2002 20:55:09 -0500 | From: Jack L. Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: John Bleichert [EMAIL PROTECTED], | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: powering down | | At 09:35 PM 9.26.2002 -0400, John Bleichert wrote: | Hello All | | Is there any way to get FreeBSD to actually shut off my hardware? | It won't do so on any of my boxes using 'shutdown -h now'. | | Just curious. | | Thanks - JB | | | # John Bleichert | # http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg | | You'll need to make these changes: | | ==to the kernel -- comment out the first line and add the second | and recompile the kernel | # Power management support (see LINT for more options) | #device apm0at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced | Power Management | device apm0at nexus? flags 0x20 # Advanced Power | Management | | ==to the rc.conf -- add the line below | apm_enable=YES | | After you reboot, you should be able to use shutdown -p now and | it will turn off the machine. Look at the dmesg after the boot to | see if you see the apm onboard stuff. Check your BIOS too. | | Best regards, | Jack L. Stone, | Administrator | | Ah. I have APM support enabled on my Thinkpad, it works fairly well. | I'll try it on my workstation when I get home. All I really needed to | do was read the man page for shutdown(8). Wotta putz... | | Perhaps the Linux versions of shutdown (which is where I first used | this command) have a swizzle in them where the '-h' switch actually | works like '-p' here? | | Thanks - JB | | # John Bleichert | # http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: LaTeX packages
On Thursday 19 September 2002 01:52 am, Kris Kennaway wrote: | On Wed, Sep 11, 2002 at 06:47:11PM -0400, Adam Bender wrote: | I tried to install LaTeX through /usr/ports/print/latex, and it | seemed to go OK, but it seems to be missing the package files. | When I try to compile with it, is says that amsmath.sty and | fullpage.sty (two packages I am using) are not found. Any idea how | I can get them? | | Go to http://www.ctan.org/ and download them. . . . or install the tetex package instead which grabs latex in a fully usable state plus other tex-related tools . . . -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: find case-insensitive challenge
On Thursday 19 September 2002 01:38 am, Peter Leftwich wrote:
| Tonight I surprised myself by running `find ~/Desktop/folder/ -name
| *.jpg -exec mv {} ~/Desktop/folderjpgs/ \;` successfully! My first
| custom find command line ever.
|
| But there were two issues -- I had to escape the semicolon with a \
Yes, it always works that way.
| -- does this ever cause problems for find command lines?
No, not really.
| Second,
| this found only *.jpg files and left behind *.JPG files so how do you
| make find be case-insensitive?
find ~/Desktop/folder/ \( -name *.jpg -o -name *.JPG \) \
-exec mv {} ~/Desktop/folderjpgs/ \;
Actually, what *I* do is avoid having files with capital letters in
them, or spaces, or 's, or any of those other goofy characters you
sometimes find in Windows file names. Then I don't have to do the
above. I accomplish that with the attached pair of scripts, though
there are no doubts lots of other nice ways to do this.
(I run the unmsdos script over files that I download from the web or
newsgroups or what-have-you. It makes all of file names
Unix-friendly and, if the file is a text file, it invokes uncrnl to
change the cr-nl's at the ends of lines into just plan nl's.)
| -exec ThankYouScript.sh {} \;
--
Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal)
unmsdos
Description: Perl program
uncrnl
Description: application/shellscript
Re: what port will allow me to view jpg files, please ?
xv -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD as a Desktop
On Thursday 25 July 2002 06:41 pm, Jeff Jirsa wrote: | On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Ed Yu wrote: | 4. Things like right click to change resolution and | wizards to help setup things, and various other small | things. But once you get the hang of it, you will | stick with FreeBSD, trust me. | | This type of thing is what still bothers me, after years of using various | systems... X, by its very nature, is not made to be reconfigured once it's | running. If someone would take the time to make it | 1) easy to configure (linux installers have basically done this) | 2) easy to reconfigure while running (if it exists, I haven't seen it) | X would instantly become more usable. On the other hand, for laptop use you never want to do this. Sometimes under Windows you do to deal with broken applications, but it's always a terrible idea to use any resolution other than the native hardware resolution on an LCD display--the resampling always looks vastly inferior to the native resolution. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD as a Desktop
On Thursday 25 July 2002 02:23 pm, MET wrote: | There is without a doubt that FreeBSD is an amazing server OS, but how | well does it stand as a desktop, or rather a laptop. To be blunt, I'm | tired of Microsoft and was wondering how feasible it is to run FreeBSD | as my Laptop OS. I will do some searching, but are there good GUI | environments for word processing, C/C++ development, email, ICQ, some | port of AOL Instant Messenger (I can't believe I'm putting this here), | MP3 players/converters, web browsers that actually keep up to date with | the standards, and anything else commonly used ? I think that at this point, FreeBSD with KDE3 is probably better than Windows for the desktop. It still lags on games, though. But if you don't need actual commercial software, OpenOffice has great office programs (it's a sort of branch from StarOffice), ogle plays DVDs, mplayer plays anything that Windows Media Player plays (and future versions will support quicktime-sorenson 1 and realplayer). Flash and realplayer and all that jazz runs under FreeBSD. And if you have a few windows apps you have to use, there's always wine. So, yes, I think it's up to snuff. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Got past installworld, new problems however [WASRe: make installworld fails with mergemaster errors - 4.4Rel upgrade to 4.6 Stable]
On Wednesday 24 July 2002 03:40 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi Doug, |Thanks for getting back to me. I actually got around that problem in the | end. | | However upon completing the upgrade, I noticed a couple of things: | | 1] startx has stopped working (just XFree86-4.0.2 from the 4.4 CD Set, no | gnome of kde installed as yet) Hard to say. Does /etc/X11/XFree86Config look like it always did? Might want to ktrace/kdump and see what it's really calling. | typing startx for any user just sits there doing nothing (after 5 mins or | so I killed it with cttrl c) | | 2] All user account except that for root disappeared. Something went wrong with mergemaster. Perhaps you installed when you should have merged. (Or perhaps the problem is with the weird make stuff you cite below. I don't believe that I ever did anything of the sort and things worked ok for me.) Regardless, the solution is simple: Restore your /etc/passwd /etc/master.passwd from backup. | 3] During bootup apache failed with unable to find my FQDN. After login | (as root) ps waux | grep httpd returns nothing. Sorry, that's Greek to me. | 4] The box does not ask me to enter a password when logging in as root on | the console See [2] above. | I'm not sure if this is the right way to get the above queries addressed, | but let me know if I should post another to the list. This is a good place for . . . well, questions. | Thanks again for taking the time to respond. | | Stacey | | Quoting Doug Barton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: | On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hello, | I've just done a fresh install of 4.4Rel, and I'm trying to | | upgrade to | | the latest stable. | | In single user mode [using shutdown now] having dropped from multiuser | | mode - | | All went well until I got to make installworld. I hit the issue | | mentioned in | | UPDATING 20020404 about the new Sendmail user smmsp. I followed the | | advice to: | cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster; make install clean | | The clean there is the problem. What UPDATING actually says is: | | cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster; make all install [clean] | | I'll delete that altogether, as it's misleading and potentially | dangerous. | | -- | We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. |And in this great conflict, ... we will see freedom's victory. | - George W. Bush, President of the United States |State of the Union, January 28, 2002 | | Do YOU Yahoo!? | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Got past installworld, new problems however [WASRe: make installworld fails with mergemaster errors - 4.4Rel upgrade to 4.6 Stable]
On Wednesday 24 July 2002 09:27 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi Brain, |Thanks for getting back to me. No problem. | | I'm happy to at last find someone who is willing to at least *say* that | he's blasted and reinstalled a higher version of XFree86-4. | | From what you said here, I'll probably want to go with a packages install | as well. | | I strongly recomemnd deintalling via 'pkg_delete X*' (you can use | pkg_info | first to be sure that this will deinstall what you expect) and then | re-installing. Actually, I'd probably install from packages rather than | | ports, it's a lot quicker. Heck, I *know* I'd do it that way because I | *did* | do it that way just four days ago. The pkg_add -r didn't work right for | | XFree86-4 because it was looking the wrong place, but if you make it | look for | All packages instead of Latest you should be golden. | | How exactly do you specify to pkd_add to look for ALL instead the latest? | And which version would it then return? Check the man page for pkg_add, but there's an environement variable you set for the place to look. I forget what the default is, but just run it with the defaults and if it works, great--somebody fixed something since Saturday. If it fails, then set the environemnt variable to the same as the default path only change the /Latest at the end to /All, and it will install (at least of Saturday) XFree86-4.2.0_1,1. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: About FreeBSD Operating System
On Wednesday 24 July 2002 10:47 pm, Wanda wrote: | To whom it may concern, | | I am writing to ask for help about installing the FreeBSD in my computer. | I have a DELL Optiplex GX 115, X86 Computer with Windows XP installed on | the master drive 40 gigs. It has 512 Ram, 800 mhz, a slave drive 15 gigs | which I want to install another operating system on for programming | purposes. | | My question is, will the FreeBSD run on my slave drive, which is already | partitioned and ready for installation. Sure. It should install just fine; in fact, I have a setup very much like this with FreeBSD running on the secondary drive. (Actually, I deleted FreeBSD from the computer yesterday because the first drive died so I'm moving things around.) -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: howto apply a diff file
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 06:19 pm, Jon Reynolds wrote: | I am new to freebsd and I need to update PHP because of the security hole | found in it. I believe that I can use a diff file to update it without | having to completely redownload and recompile it, is this right? I also | have never tried this before and I can't find good documentation on how to | do it. Can someone point me to a good doc or howto? No, a diff file applies to source, not exeutable, so if you have a diff file, you'll need to get the source. I recommend the following: pkg_info name of package # eg, pkg_info 'php*' to verify pkg_delete name of package#what this will do cd /usr/ports/*/name of port # if ambiguous, figure out which you want make patch cd work cd directory you find there where the source code lives path diff-file cd /usr/ports/*/name of port make install That said, it's entirely likely that this will have already been applied to the port, in which case you can just cvsup (or just grab the updated port from the FTP site), and then pkg_delete 'foo*' cd /usr/ports/*/whatever make install | | Jon | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: diff patch
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 07:30 pm, Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote: | patch diff.txt orig.file Please don't top-post on this list. Also, that's not the right patch syntax. It's patch diff-file (the patch should have the source file to which it applies already embedded in the patch) If the file name isn't embedded, then you can do it as patch orig.file diff-file but never redirect *out* of patch. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: using burncd
On Tuesday 23 July 2002 10:36 pm, karl agee wrote: | When using burncd, is it necessary to first create a iso fs on the cd?? | It's not clear in the man page if it does this or not. Well, burncd will burn whatever you give it. If you want an ISO disk then you'll need an ISO image. If you want an audio CD, though, you won't, and it's also perfectly possible to burn another file system onto a CD, but I don't think that's what you intend. For most practical purposes, then, the answer is YES. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: If a disk is mounted read only is it possible to corrupt it?
On Monday 22 July 2002 06:23 am, Jens Rehsack wrote: | Philip Hallstrom wrote: | Hi all - | This seems like an obvious answer, but I didn't see anything in | the man pages or the FQ so... | | If I mount *all* of my partitions as read only (ignoring the problems of | needing to write log files, etc. for now) and then cut the power to the | server, is there any chance of corrupting the disk? It seems that | FreeBSD wouldn't do it, but would the disk itself do it? | | That depends on the disk you're using. If you have problem with your | power supply, you should better think 'bout an uninterruptable power | supply. Unless there is a power surge or physical trauma, a disk most certainly should not be capable of self-corrupting unless a write has been issued, and if they are mounted r/o then FreeBSD will never issue a write. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: problems with pkg_add for XFree86 4.2
Actually, I posted about this just yesterday, but not this list. Set the location to get it from All instead of Latest and you should be golden. On Monday 22 July 2002 07:52 pm, Chris Denault wrote: | I am trying to install XFree86 4.2 via package add using | | zeus:~ pkg_add -rv XFree86-4.2.0_1,1.tgz | looking up ftp.freebsd.org | connecting to ftp.freebsd.org:21 | setting passive mode | opening data connection | initiating transfer | Error: FTP Unable to get | ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-stable/La | test/XFree86-4.2.0_1,1.tgz: File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no | access) | pkg_add: unable to fetch | `ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-4-stable/L | atest/XFree86-4.2.0_1,1.tgz' by URL | pkg_add: 1 package addition(s) failed | zeus:~ | | Could someone tell me if I am using pkg_add wrong or is there another | place to try and fetch the package from? | | Thanks for any help. | | -Chris Denault | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: mail/majorcool
On Saturday 20 July 2002 08:32 am, éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ wrote: | Dear Sirs, | | after installing the port I see the following message in httpd-error.log: | | [Sat Jul 20 18:31:15 2002] [error] [client 212.57.175.94] Premature end of | script headers: /usr/local/www/cgi-bin/majordomo | | what should I check ? You should check /usr/local/www/cgi-bin/majordomo. Try running that command directly at the command line and see what messages you get, and try looking at the file to see if there's anything obviously wrong about it. | Regards, (îÁÉÌÕÞÛÉÅ ÐÏÖÅÌÁÎÉÑ) | Ilia Chipitsine (éÌØÑ ûÉÐÉÃÉÎ) | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: FreeBSD installation problem
On Monday 15 July 2002 01:04 am, you wrote: | sorry i did not explain properly, it just hangs at this message. | | F1FreeBSD | Default: F1 | - | | hitting F1 or enter does not start the loading process. | so what could be the cause of the problem? Unfortunately, I don't have any idea. Anybody else? | marc | | - Original Message - | From: Brian T.Schellenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Marc Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:22 PM | Subject: Re: FreeBSD installation problem | | Well, the message is perfectly normal correct. | | It should, however, boot up FreeBSD 10 seconds later, or immediately if | | you | | hit F1 or Enter. | | So are we to gather that it hangs instead? Is that correct? | | On Monday 15 July 2002 12:33 am, Marc Freeman wrote: | | Hi i am trying to installed freeBSD 4.6. but on booting i keep on | | getting | | | the message | | | | F1FreeBSD | | Default: F1 | | - | | i have read the FAQ's which say to put a small dos partition at the | | beginning of the drive but this has not worked. only giving a - (dash) | | at | | | startup. any suggestions would be most appreciable thanks in advance | | marc:-) | | -- | Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) | http://www.babbleon.org | | http://www.eff.org | http://www.programming-freedom.org -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Administrators - GUI's or Command lines
On Sunday 21 July 2002 07:08 pm, Grant Cooper wrote: | quick question for the admins, do you guys perfer to work out of a GUI such | as KDE or just from freeBSD CLI(command line interface)? That's a little ambiguous. I, for one, Like to use a GUI on my main screen just so that I can have editor windows up and shells up at the same time and see the one while working in the other. I don't like using GUI *tools* for anything. So I use a GUI, but within the GUI I strictly use the CLI (shell), not the GUI tools. Did you mean do you prefer a GUI environment vs. a console or do you prefer GUI tools vs. command-line tools? PS: I'm not really an administrator, so I don't technically qualify the answer the question. Also, there is a little bit of a lie; there are two GUI tools I use: a full-screen editor is, let's face it, a big improvement over a line-oriented editor. I'll take vi over ed any old day of the week. And, for reasons I can't entirely explain, I really like very GUI mail programs. Go figure. But I stick with terminal-window tools for reading news and all system-administration functions and everything to do with my job. I really dislike things like WYSIWYG word processors, and much prefer LaTeX. So I'm about as much as a stick-in-the-mud as you're likely to find for everything but mail. Why, then, do I run KDE of all things (and really love it)? I dunno. Color me inconsistent. | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
== pointer in galeon (and nt) under KDE3
I just updated my system after about six months, and this is surely the most trivial of issues, but . . . For some reason, now that I've updated my system to stable (as of Friday night) and also wiped out and reinstalled *all* of my packages and ports, I've run into a rather odd problem: In Galeon (and also in the nt executable from downloader), the pointer shape is a == even when the cursor is over menus and buttons and other things where you'd expect an arrow cursor. In the nt it seems to be everywhere except at the very bottom of the window. In the case of galeon, it *does* turn to arrow over the actual web page, but on the buttons and menus on the top it remains a ==. It does change to an i-bar in the text widgets, though. And on the bottom part of the window (below the web page) it turns into an up-and-down arrow through most of the bottom, and angled in the corners. It seems as if whoever is doing the arrows (window manager or window, I'm not sure) is very confused about the geometry of the Window and thinks of a huge portion of the window as being a grababble border. Yet you can't actually grab it--if you click you can't really grow or shrink the window except where you should be able to do so. Also, the actual title bar causes the pointer to revert back to a pointer. I run KDE and galeon is a gnome application, so that might explain some weirdness, but nt doesn't seem to be a gnome application. It doesn't happen for generic X applications like xterm, xvile, or (more significantly) xmcd. Though seemingly trivial, this is incredibly distracting. Any ideas? -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Symbolic Link Creating
On Monday 22 July 2002 01:34 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi | I am trying to work out how to symlink my log files from /var | to /usr/var (?/usrvar/log/) as var is full.to create some space. | Should I copy the logs across then make the link? | How do I actually make the link? Do I make it for each file or can I do | this for the whole directory?Both Link and symlink do not seem to work, | although I can find no instructions/examples and the man seems light on | detail. man ln. I would do mkdir /usr/var mv /var/log /usr/var/log ln -s /usr/var/log /var | This is in FreeBSD Stable 4.0. | With many thanks in advance. | David Hingston MB ChB MBA | _ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://hingston.yi.org/ | http://pcmc.yi.org/ | If you seek a digitally signed response please advise. | If you received a warning on reading this e-mail, please go to | http://www.baycorpid.com/settings/email.asp?CA=healthcert to update your | settings | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: osama zekry
On Friday 19 July 2002 05:14 am, osama zekry wrote: | what is kernel functions and what kernel meaning First, please give your mail a meaningful subject. Second, you are going to have to do some basic research before you send questions to the list. Find and read a book or article on Unix; check out the FreeBSD web site. Google is always good for this sort of thing, too. For example, try kernel definition in google. | | _ | Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. | http://www.hotmail.com | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: /cdrom for normal users?
On Thursday 18 July 2002 02:54 pm, Steve Mazerski wrote: | On Thursday 18 July 2002 20:09, Daniel Bye wrote: | On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 07:15:10AM -0700, Balaji, Pavan wrote: | By default, cdrom is /dev/acd0c is only mountable by root in FreeBSD. | You can make it mountable by normal users by changing the /etc/fstab | entry to users,ro,noauto | | /dev/acd0c /cdrom cd9660 users,ro,noauto 0 | 0 | | Hmm, just edited my /etc/fstab to look like this, and I get a different | message: | | cd9660: -o users: option not supported Right. That's because you can't do that in FreeBSD. I wish you could, too. At least, it's never worked for me. | However, google brought me this: | | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOP | PY MOUNT That's ok if you can live with users being able to mount only into their own directories, but I found that rather awkward. I use op (from the ports/packages) to permit ordinary users to mount the cdrom. This is a sort of super sudo command that you use to give limited or full access with or without passwords to various commands. It means that ordinary users would mount with op mount /cdrom rather than just mount /cdrom. Myself, I alias mount to op mount in my ordinary user profile. -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: su to root
IMHO, op is far superior to sudo. On Wednesday 17 July 2002 03:04 pm, Tom Limoncelli wrote: | Balaji, Pavan wrote: | I wonder what exactly this means. I don't remember seeing any option for | creating/not-creating the wheel group while installation. | | It means Install 'sudo' so that you get tighter control over who can do | what, and much better logging. | | :-) | | I've known about sudo for ages but only started using it. After learning | the configuration syntax, I've found it a great little utility. There are | now many cases where I used to hand out root access but now I only have to | give sudo access to a particular command. (Disclaimer: you shouldn't give | sudo access to any command that you haven't personally audited or you may | be giving the person full root access without knowing it.) | | --tal -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: su to root
On Thursday 18 July 2002 11:06 am, Brian T. Schellenberger wrote: | IMHO, op is far superior to sudo. Hmm . . . come to think of it, that's a little terse. op is easy to configure, and it allows you give access to people not to certain commands but to certain commands *only* with certain parameters. It has lots flexibility in specifying which commands and which groups of people and so forth. Also whether to prompt for passwords or not with equal flexibility. It's also less syntactically painful when the user uses it. In spite of all this, the access-control file is quite simple to work with. | | On Wednesday 17 July 2002 03:04 pm, Tom Limoncelli wrote: | | Balaji, Pavan wrote: | | I wonder what exactly this means. I don't remember seeing any option | | for creating/not-creating the wheel group while installation. | | | | It means Install 'sudo' so that you get tighter control over who can do | | what, and much better logging. | | | | :-) | | | | I've known about sudo for ages but only started using it. After learning | | the configuration syntax, I've found it a great little utility. There | | are now many cases where I used to hand out root access but now I only | | have to give sudo access to a particular command. (Disclaimer: you | | shouldn't give sudo access to any command that you haven't personally | | audited or you may be giving the person full root access without knowing | | it.) | | | | --tal -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Question on order and targets of kernel and world builds
I'm pretty sure that that buildworld does *not* build kernels. If anybody has definitive information (like, proof) to the contrary I'd be interested in knowing. On Wednesday 17 July 2002 10:28 am, parv wrote: | in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], | wrote John Mills thusly... | | Pavan - | | On Tue, 16 Jul 2002, Balaji, Pavan wrote: | make buildworld -- builds the kernel and the libraries (both kernel | and user level) | | make buildkernel -- builds only the kernel | | Thanks - I didn't realize 'buildkernel' was redundant to 'buildworld'. | | since when buildworld target starts building actual kernels? or, is | there a communication problem either on my part or pavan's? -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Dump / soft updates interaction?
On Monday 15 July 2002 09:23 am, Richard Tobin wrote: | I deleted some files immediately before dumping a filesystem. When I | checked the dump with restore rN I got several cannot find | directory inode xxx messages. I dumped again, and the dump file | was slightly smaller and produced no such messages. | | Is this likely to be caused by soft updates in effect making the | filesystem active for some time after making changes? Yes. You need to wait for the system to settle down before dumping. On the other hand, there's no *problem* really with the first dump, just don't get freaked out at the messages :-) | | -- Richard | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Force softupdates to sync? (was: Dump / soft updates interaction?)
On Monday 15 July 2002 09:52 am, Richard Tobin wrote: | Yes. You need to wait for the system to settle down before dumping. | | Is there any way to wait until a soft-update filesystem is up-to-date - | something like sync (which doesn't wait for soft updates to complete). | | Of course you can unmount and remount, but that's not always possible. As far as I know, there is not, but this is something I've wanted for a while. Better yet, I'd like a command to synchronously force a full sync of the softupdates information. Is there such a thing? Would it be conceivable to devise such a thing? Anybody have more insight than me? -- Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . . [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal) http://www.babbleon.org http://www.eff.org http://www.programming-freedom.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Unloading Kernel Modules
On Friday 12 July 2002 10:33 pm, Holt Grendal wrote: | Hi, | | My kernal has these modules loaded: | kldstat | | Id Refs AddressSize Name | 13 0xc010 1bb548 kernel | 21 0xc5b8d000 14000linux.ko That's probably because you enabled linux emulation way back when you installed the system, and you have this in your /etc/rc.conf: linux_enable=YES | 71 0xc7bee000 3000 vn.ko Are you using a vn device? That ones not on my system so I'd wager that you are using vn, in which case you need it. | | I am unsure how they got there.. | | Is it safe to Unload them or will this Crash the system? If it's unsafe to unload them, the kernel should refuse your request to do so, and kldunload will complain, so there's no harm in trying. WHy would you want? Between the two of them they are taking up a whooping total of 92k. That was a big deal when memory was counted in k, but most peole now have a least 64M of RAM, and frequently more. At 64M of RAM, these modules are chewing up 0.l4% of your memory. Does it really matter what happens to the last 0.14% of your memory? | | tia | | holt | | | __ | Do You Yahoo!? | Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes | http://autos.yahoo.com | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] | with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Unloading Kernel Modules
On Saturday 13 July 2002 12:36 am, Roman Neuhauser wrote: | From: Brian T.Schellenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: Holt Grendal [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Re: Unloading Kernel Modules | Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 23:40:02 -0400 | | On Friday 12 July 2002 10:33 pm, Holt Grendal wrote: | | My kernal has these modules loaded: | | kldstat | | | | Id Refs AddressSize Name | | 13 0xc010 1bb548 kernel | | 21 0xc5b8d000 14000linux.ko | | | | Is it safe to Unload them or will this Crash the system? | | If it's unsafe to unload them, the kernel should refuse your request to | do so, and kldunload will complain, so there's no harm in trying. | | I can't recall which exact module was it, but I got my machine | panic trying to unload a kernel module. That was 4.4-STABLE, IIRC, | so maybe it's gotten better. Well I almost wrote the kernel will refuse and then thought better of it and substituted the kernel should refuse. I know that when I tried it just on a few of my modules that are currently loaded it refused to unload them on the grounds that they were in use, so it certainly means to detect the condition, but I must admit at not being shocked that it might not always be able to properly tell. | | These senior moments are terrible... To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
