Re: /tmp full (newbie)

2004-02-12 Thread Lauri Watts
On Thursday 12 February 2004 22.05, Jez Hancock wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 09:44:27PM +0100, gaf wrote:
  Thank you for answering. I?d hoped not to reinstall but.
  Partitioning is no problem, I?ve installed all versions from 4.8 to5.2
  on my old computer just for training and trying.

 The problem with the current scheme is you have only 4Gb or so for
 everything apart from /home - I don't have KDE / X installed, but I'm
 fairly sure KDE on it's own would eat up 3-4Gb of space without too much
 problem.  If you reinstalled I'd say assign 20Gb to /usr if you're going
 to use KDE.


This is way *way* overestimated.  du -sh on my /usr/local shows 3.6Gb - that's 
with *two* installations of KDE (one in it's own prefix, still in /usr/local 
though), an unpacked set of sources for it, a jdk (hey, they're getting 
pretty big these days), and a fairly full install of GNOME to boot.   Plus 
various other random things.  I would hate to see how much you'd have to 
install to fill up 20 Gb of /usr, especially with a separate /home.On the 
other hand, I can find a million ways to fill up as much /home as I'm given, 
and I frequently do (fill it up, that is)

With some judicious cleaning up of the cruft in /usr/ports/* (try portsclean, 
part of the portupgrade suited), possibly nuking /usr/obj (although you'll 
want space back for that if you build world again) and some investigation 
into maybe rolling over logs more often, and emptying out /tmp,  there's no 
pressing reason the OP should need to repartiiton and reinstall, especially 
not for the sake of either KDE or GNOME.  

I think for most people the installers auto defaults are not pretty workable, 
and that merging the suggested file systems is probably not advisable until 
you have more experience with the system and know what your pattern of usage 
really is.

Regards,
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KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
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Re: /tmp full (newbie)

2004-02-12 Thread Lauri Watts
On Thursday 12 February 2004 22.38, Lauri Watts wrote:

 With some judicious cleaning up of the cruft in /usr/ports/* (try
 portsclean, part of the portupgrade suited), possibly nuking /usr/obj
 (although you'll want space back for that if you build world again) and
 some investigation into maybe rolling over logs more often, and emptying
 out /tmp,  there's no pressing reason the OP should need to repartiiton and
 reinstall, especially not for the sake of either KDE or GNOME.

To clarify this, since I'm editing my silly typo below, personally, I think I 
would reinstall in the current situation.  I just meant it's probably not 
urgently in need of doing right this minute just to get KDE running.  There's 
probably a fair amount of cleanup, and the other posters symlinking 
suggestions, that will provide the immediate solution of 'get back up and 
running' for the present.  A reorganisation in the future, is not a bad idea 
though.

 I think for most people the installers auto defaults are not pretty

s/not/now/ I meant here, honest.

Regards,
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KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
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Re: fish sftp and konqueror

2003-10-14 Thread Lauri Watts
On Tuesday 14 October 2003 05.46, Robert Froese wrote:
 I'm confused.  I didn't get any response to my last post, in which I asked
 for 
 information about getting fish working in Konqueror.  Does nobody
 else use Konqueror as an sftp or fish GUI interface?  Or, have I done
 something uniquely stupid to break it on my 5.1-R box?

You wil linvariably get better results posting to the KDE FreeBSD list 
([EMAIL PROTECTED]). 

 Neither are working for me: sftp not at all and fish not if I try to
 connect 
 to a FreeBSD box.  Funny, but fish works if I try to connect a
 linux box. I've searched the list archives, the KDE bug database, and the
 FreeBSD bug database with no luck.  Perhaps there's a great alternative to
 sftp or fish in Konqueror that I'm not aware of?  Any advice would be
 greatly appreciated! 
 Cheers,

Off the top of my head, fish on FreeBSD is currently not working with password 
connections if it's already tried (and failed) a key exchange.  If this is 
your situation, try either using keys, or switching the authentication 
challenge order in the server's sshd configuration.

Other things that trip people up: For fish to work right, both machines must 
be able to reach each other by hostname, and if you have installed the 
openssh port, make sure the right sshd configuration is being picked up - the 
one from the port, not the original base one, a couple of people have hit 
problems when the configs were different, and their edits were not having any 
effect, and this was why.

Regards,
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KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
KDE on FreeBSD: http://freebsd.kde.org/


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Re: Problem installing/upgrading QT3.2

2003-09-20 Thread Lauri Watts
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On Sunday 21 September 2003 04.24, Dragoncrest wrote:
 Bad philosophy!
 In that case, revert the Qt port back to the previous working Qt 3.1 port
 ASAP and fix it in the meantime.
 
Actually, he said he used the package off of the freebsd website

 to reinstall the older version and by doing that he's up and running
 again.  So he's good there.  Myself, I haven't had this issue with QT to
 date.   It's installed and upgraded fine for me.  But then again I've
 been lucky so far too.  No major issues at all with KDE...yet.  (*crosses
 fingers*)

  Ok, I withdraw my previous statement.  It appears I'm now having
 the same issues he is.  Decided to do a CVS update on my ports then check
 my KDE versions.  Found out I didn't have the latest version like I
 thought, so I tried updating QT as well and got the exact same issue he did
 to the letter.  So I'm guessing the port is broken somehow.  Oh well, I
 guess I wait for a patched version right along with the rest of ya.

Patch may be a while forthcoming,  Qt seems to think your machines are running 
windows during the install, when they perfectly well figured out they weren't 
during the build.

In any case, it appears that the fix at this point is simply uninstall any 
existing Qt version, and install the new one.  Packages are available for 
4-STABLE and 5.1-RELEASE, instructions at the second address in my .sig

Regards,
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Re: Ok, KDE/Help .. after my moans what now ?

2003-03-03 Thread Lauri Watts
 further:

How to Ask Questions the Smart Way: 
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
How to Report Bugs Effectively: 
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
Writing FreeBSD Problem Reports:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/problem-reports/article.html

Regards,
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KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
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Re: Ok, KDE/Help .. after my moans what now ?

2003-03-03 Thread Lauri Watts
On Monday 03 March 2003 19.04, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 09:43:25AM +0100, Lauri Watts wrote:

  That's not a requirement, it's an option, if you want special support for
  that card from something that offers it.   Probably X itself, certainly
  nothing related to KDE.

 Ok, but no choice in portupgrade.
 Matrox cards are common as muck, even I know how to find out how a
 system has one or not.

Put the option in pkg_tools.conf

  *What* says libintl is missing? which binary? there is no binary called
  KDE, something specifically must be giving these problems.

 I am aware of that. It is startkde that is complaining.

startkde is a script, that runs several commands, we need to narrow down which 
of them is the problem.

   Plus the fact I cannot even re-intall KDE from the 4.7 ISO CD's.
   I get the highly useful message Error -1.

  From what? The CD-Rom drive? KDE? What KDE binary? From pkg_add? from
  Portupgrade? from tcsh?  From Raelian clones?
 
  Who knows.

 I know. I tried to restore the status quo ante. This, in my mind, was
 not so very unreasonable. The information about ports given out is that
 they are not dependent on a release. They clearly are. This is a fault
 in the system, not in yours truly.

No, this is *packages*.  Binary *packages* are built on a particular system.  
and may differ between versions of that particular system.  The same port, 
built on 5.0-Release and 4.7-Release and 4.8-Prerelease will be different 
compiled binaries from the same source.

   Now, correct me if I am wrong.
   The tag for ports should always be ., since the do not follow any
   kind of upgrade system like the release does.
   Why does portupgrade try to find 4.8-PRELEASE ports ?
   This is nonsense.
   From where is it getting this idea ?
 
  uname -a

 Ok, see above. It should not be caring about my release. Ports,
 according to all information sources I have read, are not RELEASE
 dependent. Of course they may have dependencies, but that is not the
 same thing.

Right.  They are.  Only package installs will care about the OS.

  3: Have an up to date portsdb -u.  Run it after every cvsup.  Most

  If it actually fails, cut and paste what it says into an email and ask. 
  Don't give anecdotes or paraphrase the errors, if you do we *cannot* help
  you.

 I run it every time. I am not paraphrasing errors.

You are paraphrasing errors, or cutting them short.  One single line of error 
output from gcc is useless without knowing what it was trying to compile or 
link, and knowing what other packages are installed so we can guess why it's 
not finding the files it wants.  So you need to paste at least several 
complete lines above the actual error message before we are able to help you.

You seem to be feeling very hostile, but there are several of us out here 
*trying* to help.  You're not making it very easy.  If you want the problems 
fixed, we need more information.  If you just want to rant, then this 
conversation is done, I won't participate anymore.

  4: Don't try to upgrade piecemeal if other ports are out of date.  The
  problem you describe above probably relate to a out of date dependency
  ports, but I can't be totally sure without the info from pkg_info -Ia. 
   Don't paraphrase that output, cut and paste it into an email, or I can't
  help you (are you seeing a pattern here?)

 No. Because you are assuming I am an idiot. I tried, following the
 bouncing ball, not assuming I knew better, to bring a system up to date.
 It failed.

I'm assuming no such thing.  I'm telling you that I need specific information 
that you have not so far provided. If you provide this information, I can 
help, if you don't, I cannot.  It's up to you.

 Ok, point taken.
 I don't paraphrase.
 I can cut and paste Error -1 or type it in. It still remains Error
 -1.

And you still haven't told us *what* command gave that reply.   Or any of the 
other information you have been asked for.

  - The ports system is supposed to be independent of the OS/Release, it
 is not.
It is.  The packages are not, they cannot be, because the OS itself is an 
evolving thing.  Packages are not ports, they are single snapshots of a port 
built on a single snapshot of a released version of the OS. 

  - KDE is unbuildable.

KDE is entirely buildable, very many people have built it successfully on very 
many versions of this operating system, and on many other operating systems 
(even HP/UX).  If it's not buildable on your system, we still don't have 
enough information to even begin to diagnose why.  As I've asked already, 
start with posting uname -a, pkg_info -Ia, and the configure results of the 
first port to fail (that'd be arts, if Qt 3.1 is ok - I haven't seen you yet 
complain about Qt, so I'll guess it is.) Then we might well be able to start 
fixing the problems.  

  - Shoving latest releases of KDE (and Gnome) into ports without the
 binary install of them is bad news. I have a fast high speed ADSL

Re: aRts-1.1.1, FreeBSD 4.7

2003-02-19 Thread Lauri Watts
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 17.30, Willie Viljoen wrote:
 Sorry, this may be off topic.

 I'm running KDE 3.1 compiled from ports, including latest kdelibs and
 kdebase and latest aRts (1.1.1).

 I used to have sound in KDE, but decided to turn this off as I was running
 applications that didn't want to go with aRts. These are now more willing
 to talk to aRts, but I can't get aRts to talk to my sound card anymore.

 The card is a Creative Labs SB16, I have it running with the newpcm and sbc
 drivers, and everything works fine other than aRts not cooperating.

 I have tried all sorts of tinkering with aRts settings, nothing helps.

Once you have it set up again, http://freebsd.kde.org/faq.shtml (question 11) 
will sort out any aRts is hogging the soundcard issues you had.

What kind of tinkering have you tried?  Can you look at the output of ps 
axwww |grep artsd and show me the entire command line?

Mine looks something like tihs, these are fairly safe settings:
artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -s 60 -m artsmessage -l 3 -f 

If you have no arts running, and you run this commandline in a terminal what 
happens?

CC'ing the kde list, likely more input there.
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KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
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Re: Basic Ports Question, KDE, Korganizer

2003-02-18 Thread Lauri Watts
On Tuesday 18 February 2003 22.58, humbert wrote:
 Hello - I basically run xwindows so I can have a browser and a PIM
 program. I recently installed fbsd 4.7 from the mini-install CD. I
 used sysinstall to set up KDE and everything went perfectly.

 The version of korganizer in ports is 3.0.x something. But it looks
 ugly and I would like to upgrade to the latest version. I download the
 source and tried to compile, but it couldn't find any Qt headers or
 normal stuff like that.

I tend to prefer funtionality over worrying about a default appearance.  
http://www.kde-look.org if it's ugly was the only complaint you had.

 So my questions are these:

 1) How can I install kdepim/korganizer from ports originally, but then
 continue to compile from source to keep current? Do people normally
 just wait until the ports collection is updated?

The ports collection is updated generally the same day the official release is 
made (this is true for both KDE and GNOME, and many many other applications, 
less true for others.  In a very broad generalisation, the bigger and more 
visible the project, the sooner the ports get updated.)  KDE 3.1, for 
example, has been in the ports for a few weeks now.

You have no need to compile from sources to keep current, what you need to do 
is:

a: read the handbook and learn about cvsup and the ports collection
b: install sysutils/portupgrade, read it's man pages thoroughly, and use it to 
keep your system up to date.

 2) Does anyone know why gnomepim wouldn't install? This is the error I
 am getting:
 ===  Extracting for gnomevfs-1.0.5_4

  Checksum mismatch for gnome/gnome-vfs-1.0.5.tar.bz2.

 Make sure the Makefile and distinfo file
 (/usr/ports/devel/gnomevfs/distinfo)
 are up to date.  If you are absolutely sure you want to override this
 check, type make NO_CHECKSUM=yes [other args].
 *** Error code 1

The distribution file you downloaded wasn't complete, or was otherwise 
damaged.  Remove it (it'll be in 
/usr/ports/distfiles/gnome-vfs-1.0.5.tar.bz2) and try again.  It'll probably 
work even better if you follow points a and b above.

Regards,
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KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
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Re: FreeBSD Media Player equivalent...

2003-02-18 Thread Lauri Watts
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 00.13, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
 On Tuesday 18 February 2003 21:44, Stijn Hoop wrote:
  Even better, check out http://mplayerplug-in.sourceforge.net/. A
  simple cvs co  gmake will do.

 I can't make it work with Konqueror...
 Anyone succeded in making in work ?
 Thanks.

Make what work? so you can click on a file and it opens in mplayer?

Run kappfinder, let it find your mplayer binary and add it to the K menu.  In 
KControl, go to the file associations module, and make sure mplayer is 
associated with the file formats you want.  Move it up to the top to make it 
the default player (the one that runs when you click on a file), or leave it 
where it is, and it will be available in the right click - open with menu 
for any associated file type.

For what it's worth, Lioux and I just spent the whole night working (ok, him 
mostly working, me mostly cheerleading) on fixing the xine arts plugin - 
giving noatun and kaboodle the ability to directly play any video format that 
libxine provides, a feature that previously hasn't worked on FreeBSD.  Video 
thumbnail previews in Konqueror, and an embeddable sidebar player to come as 
soon as we figure out how to make them work too.  Look for ports in a cvsup 
near you any hour now.

Regards,
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Re: FreeBSD Media Player equivalent...

2003-02-18 Thread Lauri Watts
On Wednesday 19 February 2003 02.01, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
 On Wednesday 19 February 2003 00:33, Lauri Watts wrote:
  Make what work? so you can click on a file and it opens in mplayer?
  Run kappfinder, let it find your mplayer binary and add it to the K menu.
  In KControl, go to the file associations module, and make sure mplayer is
  associated with the file formats you want.  Move it up to the top to make
  it the default player (the one that runs when you click on a file), or
  leave it where it is, and it will be available in the right click - open
  with menu for any associated file type.

 No, that never worked for me, at least not in using Konqueror as a web
 browser when the video is embedded in the web page.

They are two very different things.  Mplayer is not embeddable by Konqueror.  

Doesn't stop you right clicking on a link and sending it to mplayer there, 
using mplayer as a viewer in file manager mode, or, waiting for the libxine 
things to show up in the ports.

Regards,
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KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
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Re: suggested reinstall of KDE when original was from CD-Rom

2003-01-31 Thread Lauri Watts
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On Friday 31 January 2003 15:26, Jim Trigg wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 30, 2003 at 10:22:32PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
  BSD Baby [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   In this case, does make deinstall work?  Or is there a better way?
 
  pkg_delete(1)
 
   I want to install the new KDE 3.1 from ports in its place.
   Any advice appreciated.

 Even better, portupgrade to take care of both parts at once.

Unfortunately, neither portupgrade nor a plain make nor a pkg_add work 
terribly well with a KDE metaport upgrade across version numbers (3.0.x - 
3.0.x seems to be ok, 2.2 - 3.0, and 3.0 - 3.1, is not proving too 
successful for most people).  Some of us would very much like the kde 
metaport to die an unseemly death, however, it *is* a convenient way to 
install a functional set of KDE packages, so it's unlikely to happen soon.

In any case, if you have individual KDE packages installed, portupgrade will 
more than happily upgrade them.  If you have the metaport installed, you 
likely need to deinstall and reinstall, or for masochists, portupgrade -Rrf 
will probably work, but will rebuild a whole lot more than just KDE.

Regards,
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KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
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Re: kde+nvidia = crash

2003-01-30 Thread Lauri Watts
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On Thursday 30 January 2003 16:09, Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
 Hi !

 I'm under FreeBSD-4.7-STABLE with the NVidia proprietary binary drivers.
 I was running KDE 3.05 and I'm now running 3.1 which I though would fix my
 problem... but no !
 Here it is: often when I close Konsole, Kmail... and some other KDE apps, I
 get a crash. Here is the backtrace:

 0x29230cb8 in __sys_poll () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4
 #0  0x29230cb8 in __sys_poll () from /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4
 #1  0x2923019d in _thread_kern_sched_state_unlock () from
 /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 #2  0x2922fb52 in _thread_kern_scheduler () from
 /usr/lib/libc_r.so.4 #3  0x0 in ?? ()

Unfortunately, this backtrace is not much use, and the information it contains 
is mostly rubbish.

 I looked in the archives and on Google and found that people had similar
 problem with NVidia+KDE, but they were running 4.7-RELEASE.
 Is it normal that under 4.7-STABLE, the problem still occurs ?

I've been using the NVidia drivers since the day they were released, and I've 
never seen a KDE crash that could be attributed to them. That's multiple 
versions of -STABLE and multiple versions of KDE, everything from 3.0.x to 
KDE CVS.I have seen twice X crash entirely (and in fact, spontaneously 
reboot the machine) apparently from the nvidia drivers, but in both those 
cases I was playing movies via the tv-out port, and there was no window 
manager or desktop environment running at all.  Just X, an xterm, and 
mplayer.  If there's a bad interaction with KDE and the nvidia binary 
drivers, it apparently isn't affecting all nvidia based cards, making it 
pretty hard to work on unfortunately :(.

To try:
Does the problem go away entirely if you use the nv drivers?
Does the problem go away if you switch to the kde-classic window decoration 
in KDE?

You'll also probably get more input by asking on [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Regards,
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Re: kde meta port, how to make a package

2003-01-29 Thread Lauri Watts
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 14:17, Wiroth Didier wrote:
 Hey,

 Is that possible? Is there something like: make package
 in the /usr/ports/kde meta-port, I could execute on my
 networked PC?

There is precisely make package 

Also, portupgrade's -p switch, which is very nice, and i use it in very 
similar circumstances to you (in my case, a single nfs server on the network 
has the ports installed, and packages are kept up to date on it there)

The packages are kept in /usr/ports/packages/All/, do check that making a 
package in the kde metaport does in fact package up each and all the 
dependencies as well, I know portupgrade does.

Regards,
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KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
KDE on FreeBSD: http://freebsd.kde.org/
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Re: KDE 3.1 port?

2003-01-29 Thread Lauri Watts
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On Wednesday 29 January 2003 17:40, Andrew Y Ng wrote:
 I got KDE 3.1 installed and it's absolutely worth the wait! simply amazing!
 I got the packages from fruitsalad and recompiled kdenetwork and
 kdegraphics to get mozilla plugins and kamera/gphoto2 support. now I'm
 compiling kdepim3.

 i looked into getting s/mime working with gpg in KMail, looks like it's
 some work just to get the plugin to do s/mime, so i didn't feel like
 wasting too much time as I use Mutt for my mails most of the time... let me
 know if there is an easier way to get openpgp s/mime mails without doing
 all that stuff on the kmail website... :) i dont think kmail came standard
 with x.509 support either, but both of these are listed as the new features
 of KDE 3.1. hmm...

Some of the team are working on the libs that are needed for s/mime Ägypten 
support right now, so if you'd like to be our test bunny with it, drop by 
irc.freenode.net #kde-freebsd later this evening, or if you want, I can mail 
you later when they are ready to test.

Once the support libraries are in ports, it will be a very simple operation to 
set up.

Regards,
- -- 
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KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
KDE on FreeBSD: http://freebsd.kde.org/
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Re: anyone tried KDE 3.1?

2003-01-09 Thread Lauri Watts
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On Wednesday 08 January 2003 22:03, Andrew Y Ng wrote:
 I'm highly interested in a few new features in KDE 3.1, like
 tabbed-browsing support in Konqueror, and the new MS Exchange 2000 plugin
 for the konganizer. if that stuff works well I don't need Linux at work
 (now I need it for Ximian Connector).

 I'm wondering if anyone here tried to compile KDE 3.1, maybe somebody from
 the freebsd KDE team can give us some headsup for their progress?

It's ready to go when 3.1 is released.  The changelog is already on the KDE 
website, so there's little point repeating it here :)

None of the features listed are known to be in a non-working state on FreeBSD.  
This time round, we've done extensive testing on -CURRENT as well as  

Some of the Safari code is already in, more being added almost by the minute.  
Don't expect to see that in 3.1 though, most of it will probably be in KDE 
3.1.1 rather than 3.1  (a month to 6 weeks after a major release, we usually 
make a bugfix only release, this time there will be a few feature 
improvements plugged in, notably these.)  These are changes made in a very 
different environment, rushing them in and not testing wouldn't be a great 
idea, but 

The Kolab server (Exchange Server replacement) is a standalone, not part of 
KDE proper, and is definitely high on the list for getting into ports, it is 
however, still a work in progress, and I personally would prefer to wait 
until it's not quite such a moving target.  It's going to take quite some 
environment to test it, it's pretty hard to know if a groupware server is 
working right without setting up a workgroup and using it, so that takes 
time.  The client side groupware stuff is nearly there, sharing calendars is 
perfect, and I can tell you that the the development versions for 3.2 are 
supporting imap, and disconnected imap, sieve, ldap, and much more.  You can 
read about all that stuff on KDE's own sites but it's really coming along 
amazingly nicely if you're in need of groupware stuff.  

Once KDE 3.1 is out the door, we'll turn the package building cluster back to 
doing CVS builds, and you're welcome to help test them, drop by the IRC 
channel or on the mailing list, or keep an eye on our website (in my sig.)

Regards,
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Lauri Watts
KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
KDE on FreeBSD: http://freebsd.kde.org/
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Re: artsd ogle

2002-11-21 Thread Lauri Watts
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On Thursday 21 November 2002 21.14, Peter J. Blok wrote:

 My question: does artsd need to keep /dev/dsp open all the time? Should
 ogle be able to open /dev/dsp at the same time and not get an error while
 opening it?

No, you can tell it to exit when idle, arts aware applications will restart it 
if they want it.

More useful, configure arts to not just exit when idle, but to also use a 
different device than /dev/dsp when it's on.

http://freebsd.kde.org/faq.shtml (Question 11, and it's answer)

Regards,
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Lauri Watts
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Re: Mail client preferred?

2002-10-10 Thread Lauri Watts

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On Thursday 10 October 2002 09.53, Brian Astill wrote:
 Pine, Mutt, Elm, Emacs ...  probably others.
 Anyone care to make a recommendation for a console-based mail client?
 I'm currently using Kmail.  It would be nice if there was a way to transfer
 Kmail message files to the console client.

There's nothing really to transfer.  KMail writes perfectly normal messages 
files, in either maildir or mbox format (configurable in it's options.)  If 
you use it's default maildir format, mutt will happily use them without 
change.  If you already had mbox format mail folders, then mutt or pine will 
use them without configuration.  I don't know if pine speaks maildir, I don't 
use it myself.   

You might have to link KMail's default ~/Mail to ~/mail

You should always take care about using multiple mail clients at the same time 
on the same mail folders (I mean literally at the same time, with both open.)   

I've used KMail over imap for ages, and if it's not available, ssh and pine, 
or webmail (Squirrelmail) if ssh isn't even convenient.  One mail folder, 
multiple clients from multiple locations, no problems.  

Regards,
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Lauri Watts
KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
KDE on FreeBSD: http://freebsd.kde.org/
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Re: KDE, sound, artsd and xmms

2002-10-02 Thread Lauri Watts

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On Wednesday 02 October 2002 13.59, Irvine Short wrote:
 Hey All

 How do you guys get all the above to play together?

 I'd like to keep artsd going. At the moment I can get xmms to play by
 running artsdsp xmms.

 Is there a neater/better way? There's a plugin for xmms to talk directly
 to artsd but by all accounts it's old and buggy and not  in the ports
 subsystem.

 Any suggestions much appreciated.

 I'm running FreeBSD 4.7RX, KDE 3,03, and XMMS 1.2.7

 The sound card is an Ensoniq AudioPCI ESS1371

If you have it (and most modern sound cards can handle this) go into 
KControl's Sound Server setting, and tell aRts to use a custom device.  Point 
it at /dev/dsp0.1, and let xmms (and any other sound utilities) have 
/dev/dsp.   Do check in /dev/ that the alternate devices are present. 

If your sound card doesn't support this option, you can in the same KControl 
module, tell aRts to exit after a certain amount of idle time (0 seconds is 
never, so set it to something low, like 5 seconds.)  All aRts aware 
applications are able to restart it if they want it.  You'll notice a small 
delay when starting something like Noatun, as it restarts the server, but 
nothing unreasonable.

Regards,
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Lauri Watts
KDE Documentation: http://i18n.kde.org/doc/
KDE on FreeBSD: http://freebsd.kde.org/
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