Re: What is the value of kernel "cpu" option for Core 2 Duo E8400
On Fri Dec 17 10, super super wrote: > Hi, Freebsd-questions. > > What is the value of kernel "cpu" option for Core 2 Duo E8400 need to > specify the architecture to amd64. cpu HAMMER ... and adding CPUTYPE ?= nocona to your /etc/make.conf will make sure world gets optimised for your cpu. cheers. alex > -- > Best regards -- a13x ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
What is the value of kernel "cpu" option for Core 2 Duo E8400
Hi, Freebsd-questions. What is the value of kernel "cpu" option for Core 2 Duo E8400 need to specify the architecture to amd64. -- Best regards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook)
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 07:39:59AM -0400, Jud wrote: > > Here's an excellent place to start your research: > > > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook > I've got a 13" MacBook Pro, version 5,5 specifically, with an Intel Core > 2 Duo CPU and 4GB RAM (and a 256GB SSD, though I'm reasonably sure > that's not problematic). I'm dual booting Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.4 > and Win 7 64-bit using rEFIt. > > I want to install FreeBSD as a 3rd OS alongside OS X and Win. Here are > a couple of questions that arose during my research: > > - I'd like to run a 64-bit version of FreeBSD. My reading on the > FreeBSD website appears to indicate that the correct 64-bit version for > the Core 2 Duo would be ia-64 No. You should use the amd64 version. This works without problems on my Core2 systems. The IA-64 version is only for the Itanium [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itanium] processors, which never became really popular and are mostly found in HP servers. > - If I follow the plain install instructions on the wiki page linked in > the quoted message above (after first making space for FreeBSD using the > Mac OS X disk utility), will rEFIt Just Work, i.e., recognize FreeBSD > and include it as an option in its boot menu? Or is there something > else I've got to do? Have a look at [http://blogs.freebsdish.org/rpaulo/2008/08/31/freebsd-ia32-efi-boot-loader/]. Maybe that will work for you? As of 8.1-RELEASE, I don't see the source for this EFI boot in the ia32 boot loader (which amd64 also uses). Roland -- R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) pgpKDMLVcMBUS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook)
ia64 is for Intel Itanium - NOT Core 2 Duo. The core 2 duo extends it's 64 bit instructions from the Intel EMT64 extensions. You can read up on this topic further at Wikipedia if you'd like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMT64#Intel_64 To summarize though - AMD64 is the platform you're looking for. Since AMD was first to come to market with an i386 compatible instruction set supporting 64bit addressing, you'll find a lot of systems reference 'amd64' as the platform. On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jud wrote: > On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:20 -0500, "Brandon Gooch" > wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Arvid Warnecke > > wrote: > > > I have been thinking about FreeBSD on the Macbook Pro dual booting (I > > > need Mac OSX for photography software), but I am not sure if the > > > hardware will be supported that well. > > > > Here's an excellent place to start your research: > > > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook > > I'd posted a question about this to this list a couple of weeks ago, but > without a descriptive title. Apologies for that, and hoping a more > descriptive title plus a more detailed message on my part elicits more > specific answers. > > I've got a 13" MacBook Pro, version 5,5 specifically, with an Intel Core > 2 Duo CPU and 4GB RAM (and a 256GB SSD, though I'm reasonably sure > that's not problematic). I'm dual booting Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.4 > and Win 7 64-bit using rEFIt. > > I want to install FreeBSD as a 3rd OS alongside OS X and Win. Here are > a couple of questions that arose during my research: > > - I'd like to run a 64-bit version of FreeBSD. My reading on the > FreeBSD website appears to indicate that the correct 64-bit version for > the Core 2 Duo would be ia-64, and IIRC the website references indicated > problems running X.Org on that platform. Additionally, problems are > mentioned with various (unnamed) other ports. I do want to use FreeBSD > as a desktop. Is the info about problems with X.Org and other ports on > ia-64 current and correct, ruling out its use as a desktop on the > MacBook Pro for now? Am I correct in thinking from what I've read that > the amd-64 version of FreeBSD would not work with the Core 2 Duo? Does > this leave 32-bit FreeBSD as the only version I could reasonably install > to use as a desktop on this machine? > > - If I follow the plain install instructions on the wiki page linked in > the quoted message above (after first making space for FreeBSD using the > Mac OS X disk utility), will rEFIt Just Work, i.e., recognize FreeBSD > and include it as an option in its boot menu? Or is there something > else I've got to do? > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on these questions. > Comments on other 'gotcha' items I may have missed are also welcome. > > Jud > -- > "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - > Douglas Adams > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > -- Nathan Vidican nat...@vidican.com (519) 962-9987 (Canada) (313) 586-1982 (USA) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook)
On 12/10/2010 12:39:59, Jud wrote: > My reading on the > FreeBSD website appears to indicate that the correct 64-bit version for > the Core 2 Duo would be ia-64 Wrong. amd64 Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
FBSD on MacBook Pro w/ Core 2 Duo? (was Re: Which OS for notebook)
On Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:20 -0500, "Brandon Gooch" wrote: > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Arvid Warnecke > wrote: > > I have been thinking about FreeBSD on the Macbook Pro dual booting (I > > need Mac OSX for photography software), but I am not sure if the > > hardware will be supported that well. > > Here's an excellent place to start your research: > > http://wiki.freebsd.org/AppleMacbook I'd posted a question about this to this list a couple of weeks ago, but without a descriptive title. Apologies for that, and hoping a more descriptive title plus a more detailed message on my part elicits more specific answers. I've got a 13" MacBook Pro, version 5,5 specifically, with an Intel Core 2 Duo CPU and 4GB RAM (and a 256GB SSD, though I'm reasonably sure that's not problematic). I'm dual booting Mac OS X Snow Leopard 10.6.4 and Win 7 64-bit using rEFIt. I want to install FreeBSD as a 3rd OS alongside OS X and Win. Here are a couple of questions that arose during my research: - I'd like to run a 64-bit version of FreeBSD. My reading on the FreeBSD website appears to indicate that the correct 64-bit version for the Core 2 Duo would be ia-64, and IIRC the website references indicated problems running X.Org on that platform. Additionally, problems are mentioned with various (unnamed) other ports. I do want to use FreeBSD as a desktop. Is the info about problems with X.Org and other ports on ia-64 current and correct, ruling out its use as a desktop on the MacBook Pro for now? Am I correct in thinking from what I've read that the amd-64 version of FreeBSD would not work with the Core 2 Duo? Does this leave 32-bit FreeBSD as the only version I could reasonably install to use as a desktop on this machine? - If I follow the plain install instructions on the wiki page linked in the quoted message above (after first making space for FreeBSD using the Mac OS X disk utility), will rEFIt Just Work, i.e., recognize FreeBSD and include it as an option in its boot menu? Or is there something else I've got to do? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer on these questions. Comments on other 'gotcha' items I may have missed are also welcome. Jud -- "I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day." - Douglas Adams ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 09:49:16PM -0700, George Hartzell wrote: > > Frank Shute writes: > > [...] > > My top on 7.0 says "CPU states:" not "CPU:" > > > > Are you sure you're running on 2 cores? > > > > dmesg will tell you and top will have a "C" column with 0 or 1 in it. > > > > If you're running on one core, it will explain the temperature > > discrepancy. > > I'm almost certain that I'm running on 2 cores. > > My /usr/bin/top says that it's version: > >top: version 3.5beta12 Same as mine!?! I'm running: $ uname -rms FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE amd64 > > It does the a C column with 0 and 1. > > I created a big file full of random data and bzip'd it. > > One copy of the file took 20 seconds. Two copies, two processes ran > in 20 seconds each. Three copies, three processes too 32 seconds. > > Tops tells me that some things are running on CPU0 and others are on > CPU1. > > My config file is a copy of GENERIC and includes 'options SMP'. As > the machine boots it talks about finding both CPUS. > > Here's the config file: > > http://shrimp.alerce.com/bluetoo-info/BLUETOO.txt > > Here's the verbose dmesg: > > http://shrimp.alerce.com/bluetoo-info/dmesg.verbose.txt > > and my rc.conf: > > http://shrimp.alerce.com/bluetoo-info/rc.conf.txt > > and here's top: > > last pid: 1650; load averages: 0.00, 0.04, 0.11up > 0+02:43:22 21:47:06 > 51 processes: 1 running, 50 sleeping > CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle > Mem: 22M Active, 518M Inact, 200M Wired, 214M Buf, 3189M Free > Swap: 4063M Total, 4063M Free > > PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND > 861 root 1 440 5688K 1148K select 1 0:01 0.00% powerd >1336 hartzell 1 440 33756K 4608K select 0 0:00 0.00% sshd > 980 root 1 440 73860K 7192K select 1 0:00 0.00% httpd > 854 root 1 440 9432K 2284K select 1 0:00 0.00% ntpd >1338 hartzell 1 200 10100K 3060K pause 1 0:00 0.00% tcsh > 921 root 1 80 4600K 972K nanslp 1 0:00 0.00% svscan >1019 root 1 440 10696K 3868K select 1 0:00 0.00% sendmail > 900 root 1 440 13416K 2772K select 1 0:00 0.00% nmbd >1104 hartzell 1 50 10100K 2752K ttyin 0 0:00 0.00% tcsh > 943 dnscache 1 440 5624K 2368K select 1 0:00 0.00% dnscache >1333 root 1 40 33756K 4544K sbwait 1 0:00 0.00% sshd > 733 root 1 440 5688K 1368K select 1 0:00 0.00% syslogd > 942 root 1 440 6624K 1560K select 1 0:00 0.00% atalkd > 971 avahi 1 440 15652K 2580K select 1 0:00 0.00% > avahi-daemon > 804 root 1 960 4604K 1424K select 0 0:00 0.00% nfsd >1092 root 1 80 20440K 1896K wait 1 0:00 0.00% login > > g. Well, it certainly seems that you're running on 2 cores so that blows that theory out of the water :) My next theory is that cpu0 is reporting too high a figure because it's got a busted or miscalibrated thermistor (or whatever they use). My machine reports cpu core temps of 22 & 24 respectively. That's hovering about room temperature with powerd enabled and a virtually idle machine. For the record, I've got a Core 2 Duo E6550 2.33GHZ. Another possibility, is that coretemp has a bug in it triggered by your particular CPU. I think the broken temp sensor is more likely though. I don't know if your BIOS records the core temps. If not, it will probably record the CPU temp in which case compare with your coretemp temperatures. That may or may not cast some light on things and whether you have to worry about the machine shutting down due to too high a CPU temperature being erroneously recorded. Regards, -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?
Frank Shute writes: > [...] > My top on 7.0 says "CPU states:" not "CPU:" > > Are you sure you're running on 2 cores? > > dmesg will tell you and top will have a "C" column with 0 or 1 in it. > > If you're running on one core, it will explain the temperature > discrepancy. I'm almost certain that I'm running on 2 cores. My /usr/bin/top says that it's version: top: version 3.5beta12 It does the a C column with 0 and 1. I created a big file full of random data and bzip'd it. One copy of the file took 20 seconds. Two copies, two processes ran in 20 seconds each. Three copies, three processes too 32 seconds. Tops tells me that some things are running on CPU0 and others are on CPU1. My config file is a copy of GENERIC and includes 'options SMP'. As the machine boots it talks about finding both CPUS. Here's the config file: http://shrimp.alerce.com/bluetoo-info/BLUETOO.txt Here's the verbose dmesg: http://shrimp.alerce.com/bluetoo-info/dmesg.verbose.txt and my rc.conf: http://shrimp.alerce.com/bluetoo-info/rc.conf.txt and here's top: last pid: 1650; load averages: 0.00, 0.04, 0.11up 0+02:43:22 21:47:06 51 processes: 1 running, 50 sleeping CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 100% idle Mem: 22M Active, 518M Inact, 200M Wired, 214M Buf, 3189M Free Swap: 4063M Total, 4063M Free PID USERNAMETHR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND 861 root 1 440 5688K 1148K select 1 0:01 0.00% powerd 1336 hartzell 1 440 33756K 4608K select 0 0:00 0.00% sshd 980 root 1 440 73860K 7192K select 1 0:00 0.00% httpd 854 root 1 440 9432K 2284K select 1 0:00 0.00% ntpd 1338 hartzell 1 200 10100K 3060K pause 1 0:00 0.00% tcsh 921 root 1 80 4600K 972K nanslp 1 0:00 0.00% svscan 1019 root 1 440 10696K 3868K select 1 0:00 0.00% sendmail 900 root 1 440 13416K 2772K select 1 0:00 0.00% nmbd 1104 hartzell 1 50 10100K 2752K ttyin 0 0:00 0.00% tcsh 943 dnscache 1 440 5624K 2368K select 1 0:00 0.00% dnscache 1333 root 1 40 33756K 4544K sbwait 1 0:00 0.00% sshd 733 root 1 440 5688K 1368K select 1 0:00 0.00% syslogd 942 root 1 440 6624K 1560K select 1 0:00 0.00% atalkd 971 avahi 1 440 15652K 2580K select 1 0:00 0.00% avahi-daemon 804 root 1 960 4604K 1424K select 0 0:00 0.00% nfsd 1092 root 1 80 20440K 1896K wait 1 0:00 0.00% login g. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?
On Monday 23 June 2008 16:06:20 George Hartzell wrote: > DA Forsyth recently mentioned the coretemp driver, which fetches the > core temperatures for Core 2 Duo chips. > > I'm in the middle of building up a Shuttle SG31G2 (7-STABLE) and > loaded the driver to see what it told me. > > I've noticed that cpu.0 is consistently hotter than cpu.1, even on an > unloaded machine. Is that because that core's doing housekeeping work > whilst the other is truly idle? > > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 44 > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 29 > > If I background a pair of "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null" so that > the cpu's are busy, both go up but cpu.0 stays hotter. > > I'm asking because I'm worried that this could be a sign that I didn't > get the heatsink goop spread out sufficiently well > > Thanks, > > g. For what is worth .. my readings: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # kldload coretemp [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # sysctl kern.version kern.version: FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE #0: Sun Feb 24 19:59:52 UTC 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # sysctl hw.model hw.model: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # sysctl dev.cpu.0.temperature; sysctl dev.cpu.1.temperature; date "+%H:%M:%S" dev.cpu.0.temperature: 25 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 24 00:08:29 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null & [1] 5482 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # date "+%H:%M:%S" 00:08:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # sysctl dev.cpu.0.temperature; sysctl dev.cpu.1.temperature; date "+%H:%M:%S" dev.cpu.0.temperature: 36 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 36 00:10:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # j [1] + 5482 Running dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # date "+%H:%M:%S" 00:11:13 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # sysctl dev.cpu.0.temperature; sysctl dev.cpu.1.temperature; date "+%H:%M:%S" dev.cpu.0.temperature: 40 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 37 00:11:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # sysctl dev.cpu.1.temperature ; sysctl dev.cpu.1.temperature ; date "+%H:%M:%S" dev.cpu.1.temperature: 35 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 35 00:13:58 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # j; date "+%H:%M:%S" [1] + 5482 Running dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null 00:14:20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # sysctl dev.cpu.1.temperature ; sysctl dev.cpu.1.temperature ; date "+%H:%M:%S" dev.cpu.1.temperature: 39 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 39 00:14:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # sysctl dev.cpu.1.temperature ; sysctl dev.cpu.1.temperature ; date "+%H:%M:%S" dev.cpu.1.temperature: 37 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 37 00:14:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # fg dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null ^C29752816+0 records in 29752816+0 records out 15233441792 bytes transferred in 378.928688 secs (40201342 bytes/sec) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ # Hope it helped :) -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 01:52:07PM -0700, George Hartzell wrote: > > Josh Carroll writes: > > [...] > > I'd recommend taking the heat sink off and seeing how the thermal > > grease is spread on the CPU's head spreader and on the heatsink > > itself. If it looks lopsided or extremely thick on one side of the CPU > > package or extremely thin (to the point where you can still see the > > sheen of the heatsink or heat spreader), then re-mount the heatsink > > and try to make sure it's evenly distributing the pressure down on the > > CPU package. > > This is a Shuttle XPC box. I pulled the heatsink/cooler assembly and > there didn't seem to be any obvious asymmetries in how the the grease > was distributed. I swirled it around a bit, reassembled, and am > seeing the same kind of spreads. > > Here's the machine pretty much idle > > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 44 > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 28 > > Where top says: > > last pid: 1217; load averages: 0.02, 0.51, 0.43up > 0+00:14:57 13:49:47 > 52 processes: 1 running, 51 sleeping > CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.2% interrupt, 99.8% idle > Mem: 22M Active, 13M Inact, 95M Wired, 1788K Cache, 15M Buf, 3797M Free > Swap: 4063M Total, 4063M Free My top on 7.0 says "CPU states:" not "CPU:" Are you sure you're running on 2 cores? dmesg will tell you and top will have a "C" column with 0 or 1 in it. If you're running on one core, it will explain the temperature discrepancy. > > A could of dd if=/dev/urandom etc... quickly pushes it up, but the > delta remains: > > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 51 > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 39 > > Top says: > > last pid: 1243; load averages: 0.98, 0.65, 0.48up > 0+00:16:07 13:50:57 > 54 processes: 3 running, 51 sleeping > CPU: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 92.5% system, 0.0% interrupt, 7.1% idle > Mem: 22M Active, 13M Inact, 95M Wired, 1788K Cache, 15M Buf, 3797M Free > Swap: 4063M Total, 4063M Free > -- Frank Contact info: http://www.shute.org.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?
Josh Carroll writes: > [...] > I'd recommend taking the heat sink off and seeing how the thermal > grease is spread on the CPU's head spreader and on the heatsink > itself. If it looks lopsided or extremely thick on one side of the CPU > package or extremely thin (to the point where you can still see the > sheen of the heatsink or heat spreader), then re-mount the heatsink > and try to make sure it's evenly distributing the pressure down on the > CPU package. This is a Shuttle XPC box. I pulled the heatsink/cooler assembly and there didn't seem to be any obvious asymmetries in how the the grease was distributed. I swirled it around a bit, reassembled, and am seeing the same kind of spreads. Here's the machine pretty much idle dev.cpu.0.temperature: 44 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 28 Where top says: last pid: 1217; load averages: 0.02, 0.51, 0.43up 0+00:14:57 13:49:47 52 processes: 1 running, 51 sleeping CPU: 0.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.2% interrupt, 99.8% idle Mem: 22M Active, 13M Inact, 95M Wired, 1788K Cache, 15M Buf, 3797M Free Swap: 4063M Total, 4063M Free A could of dd if=/dev/urandom etc... quickly pushes it up, but the delta remains: dev.cpu.0.temperature: 51 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 39 Top says: last pid: 1243; load averages: 0.98, 0.65, 0.48up 0+00:16:07 13:50:57 54 processes: 3 running, 51 sleeping CPU: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 92.5% system, 0.0% interrupt, 7.1% idle Mem: 22M Active, 13M Inact, 95M Wired, 1788K Cache, 15M Buf, 3797M Free Swap: 4063M Total, 4063M Free g. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: {Spam?} Re: CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?
At 02:24 PM 6/23/2008, Josh Carroll wrote: > Not sure if the core duos work the same as older 2 CPU and 4 CPU > motherboards, but there are some BIOS functions that always use the first > CPU. So you never get true SMP because the hardware uses the first CPU more > to service interrupts. True, but interrupt handling and minimal background processing should not cause a core to be 15 C hotter. I guess the original poster can mention the load on both cores (or post a top snapshot) so we can see if there is some load on the system. It can cause it to be hotter because the first CPU is servicing all motherboard hardware like the ethernet, video, etc. It is usually the ethernet that causes the most cpu activity. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?
> Not sure if the core duos work the same as older 2 CPU and 4 CPU > motherboards, but there are some BIOS functions that always use the first > CPU. So you never get true SMP because the hardware uses the first CPU more > to service interrupts. True, but interrupt handling and minimal background processing should not cause a core to be 15 C hotter. I guess the original poster can mention the load on both cores (or post a top snapshot) so we can see if there is some load on the system. Josh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?
At 02:06 PM 6/23/2008, George Hartzell wrote: DA Forsyth recently mentioned the coretemp driver, which fetches the core temperatures for Core 2 Duo chips. I'm in the middle of building up a Shuttle SG31G2 (7-STABLE) and loaded the driver to see what it told me. I've noticed that cpu.0 is consistently hotter than cpu.1, even on an unloaded machine. Is that because that core's doing housekeeping work whilst the other is truly idle? dev.cpu.0.temperature: 44 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 29 If I background a pair of "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null" so that the cpu's are busy, both go up but cpu.0 stays hotter. I'm asking because I'm worried that this could be a sign that I didn't get the heatsink goop spread out sufficiently well Thanks, g. Not sure if the core duos work the same as older 2 CPU and 4 CPU motherboards, but there are some BIOS functions that always use the first CPU. So you never get true SMP because the hardware uses the first CPU more to service interrupts. -Derek -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?
> I've noticed that cpu.0 is consistently hotter than cpu.1, even on an > unloaded machine. Is that because that core's doing housekeeping work > whilst the other is truly idle? > > dev.cpu.0.temperature: 44 > dev.cpu.1.temperature: 29 I notice some differences on my quad-core (Q6600) CPU, too: dev.cpu.0.temperature: 35 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 34 dev.cpu.2.temperature: 27 dev.cpu.3.temperature: 30 The differences also stay around the same when I yes > /dev/null 4 times to load up each core: dev.cpu.0.temperature: 47 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 45 dev.cpu.2.temperature: 38 dev.cpu.3.temperature: 42 The discrepancy isn't as much as in your case, though. 15 C is pretty significant. It could be that either your heat spreader or heat sink are concave or convex causing one of the cores to get hotter. On my dual-core box, here are the idle temps: dev.cpu.0.temperature: 33 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 31 and under load: dev.cpu.0.temperature: 48 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 46 I'd recommend taking the heat sink off and seeing how the thermal grease is spread on the CPU's head spreader and on the heatsink itself. If it looks lopsided or extremely thick on one side of the CPU package or extremely thin (to the point where you can still see the sheen of the heatsink or heat spreader), then re-mount the heatsink and try to make sure it's evenly distributing the pressure down on the CPU package. Josh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
CPU temp's on core 2 duo, should they be significantly different?
DA Forsyth recently mentioned the coretemp driver, which fetches the core temperatures for Core 2 Duo chips. I'm in the middle of building up a Shuttle SG31G2 (7-STABLE) and loaded the driver to see what it told me. I've noticed that cpu.0 is consistently hotter than cpu.1, even on an unloaded machine. Is that because that core's doing housekeeping work whilst the other is truly idle? dev.cpu.0.temperature: 44 dev.cpu.1.temperature: 29 If I background a pair of "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null" so that the cpu's are busy, both go up but cpu.0 stays hotter. I'm asking because I'm worried that this could be a sign that I didn't get the heatsink goop spread out sufficiently well Thanks, g. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Core 2 Duo
On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 01:39:22PM +0100, Goncalves, Antonio wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > I would like to use the FreeBSD as the OS of my new Laptop, > instead of SUse. > > It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. Can you please let me know wish > release shall I install? Generally you would use the latest release (currently 6.2) and then cvsup (csup) to RElENG_6. In some cases and possibly this one, when the hardware might be very recent, you might have to go even more bleeding edge and install the development branch to get some needed hardware support. That would currently be 7.0 and csup to the latest available. In general, you do not have to go backwards to match hardware compatibility. jerry > > Many thanks in advance, > > Best Regards, > > Antonio > > DISCLAIMER: > Unless indicated otherwise, the information contained in this message is > privileged and confidential, and is intended only for the use of the > addressee(s) named above and others who have been specifically authorized to > receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified > that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and/or > attachments is strictly prohibited. The company accepts no liability for any > damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Furthermore, the > company does not warrant a proper and complete transmission of this > information, nor does it accept liability for any delays. If you have > received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the > message. Thank you. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Core 2 Duo
On Mar 14, 2007, at 7:11 AM, Ivan Voras wrote: Goncalves, Antonio wrote: It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. Can you please let me know wish release shall I install? Both i386 and AMD64 versions will work, but you'll probably have less problems with the i386 version. There are even nVidia binary drivers for FreeBSD, but you must check if they support your card. i386 is 32-bit and amd64 is 64-bit. All newer Intel non-Itanium 64- bit chips are compatible with amd64. Like I discovered though you may want to grab an appropriate LiveCD to match your hardware though, because your hardware may be too recent for a release CD. See my thread about 5 days back in the archives--some people that replied gave me links to where the release CDs were. Cheers, -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Core 2 Duo
Goncalves, Antonio wrote: It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. Can you please let me know wish release shall I install? Both i386 and AMD64 versions will work, but you'll probably have less problems with the i386 version. There are even nVidia binary drivers for FreeBSD, but you must check if they support your card. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Core 2 Duo
Dear Sir, I would like to use the FreeBSD as the OS of my new Laptop, instead of SUse. It has Core 2 Duo and a NVidia 7950 GTX. Can you please let me know wish release shall I install? Many thanks in advance, Best Regards, Antonio DISCLAIMER: Unless indicated otherwise, the information contained in this message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s) named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this message and/or attachments is strictly prohibited. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Furthermore, the company does not warrant a proper and complete transmission of this information, nor does it accept liability for any delays. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the message. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Core 2 Duo
Am Sonntag, 25. Februar 2007 10:10 schrieb Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri: > On 2/25/07, Philip Radford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >In the past on a P4 chip I would put pentium4 in the cputype > >parameter in /etc/make.conf but are there any other settings here I > >can adjust or any by using sysctl. > > I'm using CPUTYPE?=prescott amd it's safe, nocona broke my kernel. I'm no compiler expert, but prescott and nocona are Net-Burst architectures. Core(2) is a pentium-m successor, which was a completely different (x86) architecture, so optimizations for netburst won't have a positive effect, if they work at all. I use CPUTYPE?=pentium-m, but I've never done any comparisions to binaries compiled without CPUTYPE. After several years observation with CPUTYPE I guess the improovement ist smaller than ever these days, and until now it was rarely mesureable. -Harry -- OmniSEC - UNIX und Windows Netzwerke - Sicher Harald Schmalzbauer Flintsbacher Str. 3 80686 München +49 (0) 89 18947781 +49 (0) 160 93860101 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Core 2 Duo
On 2/25/07, Philip Radford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In the past on a P4 chip I would put pentium4 in the cputype parameter in /etc/make.conf but are there any other settings here I can adjust or any by using sysctl. I'm using CPUTYPE?=prescott amd it's safe, nocona broke my kernel. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Core 2 Duo
Hi All, I am now in the= process of configuring two new freebsd boxes on which I plan to install the= 6.2 branch. Does anyone know if= and how I can tailor the configuration to make best use of core 2 duo= processors. One of the servers= has a 'Dual Core Intel® Xeon® 3040 Processor at 1.86GHz, 2MB L2 cache,= 1066MHz FSB' The second as a= 'Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 Conroe 2.13GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA= 775' Any idea or thoughts= on this welcome. In the past on a P4= chip I would put pentium4 in the cputype parameter in /etc/make.conf but= are there any other settings here I can adjust or any by using= sysctl. A google search was= not productive. It would appear that= SMP is installed by default on the default 6.2 install. Regards Phil. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
Yes GENERIC is SMP - Just installed a QX6700 worked ok from a SMP perspective -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Rudisch Sent: 14 February 2007 08:55 To: Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri; Brian Cc: User Questions; Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum Subject: Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo? On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:44:57 +0100, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why shall you do the double job by installing the FreeBSD, then > reinstall it after adding SMP option to kernel? Couldn't we get > FreeBSD to install the right kernel based on the number of the cpu(s) > in the system? I recently installed FreeBSD 6.2 from scratch and the installer automagically installed the SMP-kernel. So this feature is already there. Andreas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
At about the time of 2/13/2007 12:07 PM, pete wright stated the following: > On 2/13/07, Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tuesday February 13, 2007 at 01:42:23 (PM) pete wright wrote: >> >> >>> how would you define "correct"? have all systems boot with a SMP >>> kernel by default so that machines with multiple processors >>> automatically detect all available CPU's? then what about all the >>> users that are using uni-proc systems? >>> >>> i think the current state of building a system w/o SMP enabled is >>> great. it's not that hard to do a: >>> >>> cd /usr/src >>> make buildkernel KERNCONF=SMP >>> make installkernel KERNCONF=SMP >>> reboot >>> >>> this is all covered in the FreeBSD handbook, which all new >>> admin's/users should be reading and following closely anyway ;) >> It is also a hugh waste of time. Doing the initial system installation, >> there should be an option at the very least to enable SMP. Installing >> a system, then having to rebuilt and and reinstall it again if counter >> productive. >> >> The market is moving toward multiple CPUs. The FBSD installation routine >> should embrace that reality and afford it the proper consideration that >> it deserves. >> > > hmm...didn't realize that not loading a SMP kernel by default would > turn people away from running FreeBSD. building a kernel is much > different from reinstalling a system though... > > OT, but - I know a fair amount of locations will have a custom kernel, > and most large sites will script sysinstall to load a custom kernel as > well. yet, for "junior" admins maybe a boot time option allow one to > load a SMP kernel during the install phase (which would also be the > kernel the system boot's from after installation) may be helpfull. > There are currently options to disable ACPI (granted that's a .ko) but > perhaps there is precedent to do this. > > > anyway, sounds like a good PR :) > > -pete > > > Interesting. I have a computer here that's a AMD 64 3700 and it's not dual core, but the board is capable of using a X2 processor, so loads a SMP kernel anyways. It seems to work just fine with the single core, single CPU. The thing is though is that it refers to the CPU as cpu0. Doing it this way just might be the future... Oh, and I didn't tell it to use the SMP kernel. Sysinstall did that itself. So based on this behavior, if the bios reports SMP capable (the bios shows CPU 0 during the post), then sysinstall loads a SMP kernel? I have to turn acpi off though otherwise I get dead lock up problems. -- Daniel Rudy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
On Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:44:57 +0100, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Why shall you do the double job by installing the FreeBSD, then reinstall it after adding SMP option to kernel? Couldn't we get FreeBSD to install the right kernel based on the number of the cpu(s) in the system? I recently installed FreeBSD 6.2 from scratch and the installer automagically installed the SMP-kernel. So this feature is already there. Andreas ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
On 2/13/07, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is also a hugh waste of time. Doing the initial system installation, > there should be an option at the very least to enable SMP. Installing > a system, then having to rebuilt and and reinstall it again if counter > productive. > > The market is moving toward multiple CPUs. The FBSD installation routine > should embrace that reality and afford it the proper consideration that > it deserves. > > All I'm saying is that we see several emails here asking which build to use, the question of smp comes up along with amd64 vs i386 vs ia64. How many more wonder but don't ask? It'd be glorious for the install routine to make this easier on the user. New users are not experts. Brian I agree with you here, the current installer isn't the best for newbie users. It should be more friendly so FreeBSD will gain more users. Why shall you do the double job by installing the FreeBSD, then reinstall it after adding SMP option to kernel? Couldn't we get FreeBSD to install the right kernel based on the number of the cpu(s) in the system? FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT GENERIC kernel has options SMP by default, so how this will imapct servers/pcs/laptops with single CPU? FreeSBIE is able to run the second cpu and launch it as well, so I don't know how hard is this, PCBSD installs the right kernel if you have more than 1 cpu. How many newbie users can buildworld, customize and build a new kernel? I would advice newbies to use PCBSD or DesktopBSD, so they can learn more about FreeBSD, since they will be able to use the internet and read the docs online from their laptop, or pc, instead of getting another pc beside them to read and apply things in the console. This is the way how I got to know how to make buildworld, and make install kernel, while I'm reading from the same laptop. So now, I'm able to to install FreeBSD, and KDE from the scratch, because I started with PCBSD beside DesktopBSD, and reading online and trying things out without having another pc beside me, or read man pages in the console without colors, learning more about FreeBSD while you are online is the easier way to go IMHO. -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
On 2007/02/13 11:02, Brian seems to have typed: > the question of smp comes up along with amd64 vs i386 vs ia64. This is documented in the hardware notes though: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware-i386.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware-amd64.html http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.2R/hardware-ia64.html See Section 2 in each of those documents. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
On 2/13/07, Gerard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday February 13, 2007 at 01:42:23 (PM) pete wright wrote: > how would you define "correct"? have all systems boot with a SMP > kernel by default so that machines with multiple processors > automatically detect all available CPU's? then what about all the > users that are using uni-proc systems? > > i think the current state of building a system w/o SMP enabled is > great. it's not that hard to do a: > > cd /usr/src > make buildkernel KERNCONF=SMP > make installkernel KERNCONF=SMP > reboot > > this is all covered in the FreeBSD handbook, which all new > admin's/users should be reading and following closely anyway ;) It is also a hugh waste of time. Doing the initial system installation, there should be an option at the very least to enable SMP. Installing a system, then having to rebuilt and and reinstall it again if counter productive. The market is moving toward multiple CPUs. The FBSD installation routine should embrace that reality and afford it the proper consideration that it deserves. hmm...didn't realize that not loading a SMP kernel by default would turn people away from running FreeBSD. building a kernel is much different from reinstalling a system though... OT, but - I know a fair amount of locations will have a custom kernel, and most large sites will script sysinstall to load a custom kernel as well. yet, for "junior" admins maybe a boot time option allow one to load a SMP kernel during the install phase (which would also be the kernel the system boot's from after installation) may be helpfull. There are currently options to disable ACPI (granted that's a .ko) but perhaps there is precedent to do this. anyway, sounds like a good PR :) -pete -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
It is also a hugh waste of time. Doing the initial system installation, there should be an option at the very least to enable SMP. Installing a system, then having to rebuilt and and reinstall it again if counter productive. The market is moving toward multiple CPUs. The FBSD installation routine should embrace that reality and afford it the proper consideration that it deserves. All I'm saying is that we see several emails here asking which build to use, the question of smp comes up along with amd64 vs i386 vs ia64. How many more wonder but don't ask? It'd be glorious for the install routine to make this easier on the user. New users are not experts. Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
Gerard writes: > It is also a hugh waste of time. Doing the initial system > installation, there should be an option at the very least to > enable SMP. Installing a system, then having to rebuilt and and > reinstall it again if counter productive. > > The market is moving toward multiple CPUs. The FBSD installation > routine should embrace that reality and afford it the proper > consideration that it deserves. There are a lot of things the system installation process "should" do. (See regular and often ... vigorous ... discussions in various archives.) When you submit the PR containing the necessary patches. will you please "cc:" the list? :-) The more I hear on this, the more I become convinced "less is more"; a liner increase in number of choices usually results in an exponential increase in complexity (and corresponding failure modes). What I could see is a "post-install configuration advisor" - something that carefully probes the hardware, asks questions about intended usage, and builds a sample kernel config. It wouldn't fix disk partitioning issues, but it might pick up a lot of other problems. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
On Tuesday February 13, 2007 at 01:42:23 (PM) pete wright wrote: > how would you define "correct"? have all systems boot with a SMP > kernel by default so that machines with multiple processors > automatically detect all available CPU's? then what about all the > users that are using uni-proc systems? > > i think the current state of building a system w/o SMP enabled is > great. it's not that hard to do a: > > cd /usr/src > make buildkernel KERNCONF=SMP > make installkernel KERNCONF=SMP > reboot > > this is all covered in the FreeBSD handbook, which all new > admin's/users should be reading and following closely anyway ;) It is also a hugh waste of time. Doing the initial system installation, there should be an option at the very least to enable SMP. Installing a system, then having to rebuilt and and reinstall it again if counter productive. The market is moving toward multiple CPUs. The FBSD installation routine should embrace that reality and afford it the proper consideration that it deserves. -- Gerard "I choose to ignore, of course, the fact that self-Googling is perhaps the most narcissistic thing a person can do that doesn't involve actually humping a mirror." Dan Kois ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
On 2/13/07, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This question come sup so often, I believe FreeBSD should do this by default, install the proper kernel unless something different is selected by the user. how would you define "correct"? have all systems boot with a SMP kernel by default so that machines with multiple processors automatically detect all available CPU's? then what about all the users that are using uni-proc systems? i think the current state of building a system w/o SMP enabled is great. it's not that hard to do a: cd /usr/src make buildkernel KERNCONF=SMP make installkernel KERNCONF=SMP reboot this is all covered in the FreeBSD handbook, which all new admin's/users should be reading and following closely anyway ;) -pete > they will detect your cpus and will > install the right kernel to use both cpus Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- ~~o0OO0o~~ Pete Wright www.nycbug.org NYC's *BSD User Group ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
This question come sup so often, I believe FreeBSD should do this by default, install the proper kernel unless something different is selected by the user. they will detect your cpus and will install the right kernel to use both cpus Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 08:53:05AM -0800, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > > > Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at > 11:23:20AM +0300, Mike Barnard wrote: > > > >Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by > > >someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the > > >ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due processor. > > > > > > nice choice > > > > booting FreeBSD of the CD automatically detects the number of CPU's and > > boots the SMP kernel config. after you do your installation, with no custom > > kernel, it will continue to do so. the safe option is of course to build > > your own Kernel with SMP enabled. > > > > Just get the FreeBSD_6.2_RELEASE_disc1.iso and do the install. > You're not going to hurt anything. It is going to work just fine. > If you make a mistake, you can do it over and only lose a few minutes. > The only little confusion might come if you are dual booting the > machine. Then, just make sure you create a slice for FreeBSD and > install on the FreeBSD slice and it will work fine. > > You don't need all these other mini-FreeBSDs or playtop FreeBSDs. > It is easy enough to just install the regular FreeBSD and you will > learn more that way.Anyway, it sounds like you are well beyond > that total newbie beginner stage already > Jerry, > > Yes, thanks. Im a newbie to the installation of FreeBSD but i've been using > the OS for years. So i generally understand how to upgrade ports and > install things and all that (even if i often get stuck in details!). > So as i said > to one of the other posters, i dont want some lightweight quick-start > version, i want the real thing, just need to know how to do it. And now i > think i do, though i'm sure i'll be back with problems soon :-( You will be fine. If you do port upgrades, you are already ahead of half the folk out there. Have fun, jerry > > Thanks, > > jen > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
On Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:23:20AM +0300, Mike Barnard wrote: > >Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by > >someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the > >ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due processor. > > > nice choice > > What do i need to do to make sure i'm getting the use of both cores? I read > >through the Handbook on Installation and it doesnt say anything about this. > > > booting FreeBSD of the CD automatically detects the number of CPU's and > boots the SMP kernel config. after you do your installation, with no custom > kernel, it will continue to do so. the safe option is of course to build > your own Kernel with SMP enabled. > > you are safer off installing PCBSD or DesktopBSD, though the former will > give you an easier out fit for that hardware > > Thanks. Any other thoughts welcome! Im a little nervous about this, but the > >T60 seems to be well supported. > Just get the FreeBSD_6.2_RELEASE_disc1.iso and do the install. You're not going to hurt anything. It is going to work just fine. If you make a mistake, you can do it over and only lose a few minutes. The only little confusion might come if you are dual booting the machine. Then, just make sure you create a slice for FreeBSD and install on the FreeBSD slice and it will work fine. You don't need all these other mini-FreeBSDs or playtop FreeBSDs. It is easy enough to just install the regular FreeBSD and you will learn more that way.Anyway, it sounds like you are well beyond that total newbie beginner stage already. Once you get the basic FreeBSD up and running, it would be a good idea to CVSUP to the very latest so you have any possible security fixes and also do that for the ports and build/install the world. It is covered in the handbook and there are also several web pages out there with step-by-step descriptions of how to do it. Then head to /usr/ports and install whatever third party things you want to have.Build pretty much everything from ports, except maybe openoffice which is so huge to build. For that you might prefer to go get one of the premade binary packages for FreeBSD and do a pkg_add of that. So, just do it, jerry > > you are welcome > > -- > Mike > > Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in > a million chances happen 99% of the time. > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/12/07, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: > Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by > someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the > ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due processor. > > What do i need to do to make sure i'm getting the use of both cores? I read > through the Handbook on Installation and it doesnt say anything about this. > > Thanks. Any other thoughts welcome! Im a little nervous about this, but the > T60 seems to be well supported. > > Jen The best approach to learn more about FreeBSD in my opinion is to install PCBSD 1.3.01 which is based on FreeBSD 6.1 or DesktopBSD 1.6-RC1 which is FreeBSD 6.2 , they will detect your cpus and will install the right kernel to use both cpus beside complete ready FreeBSD with KDE desktop in your thinkpad notebook. Thanks. I do want to say though that i have *used* FreeBSD alot on the desktop before (though im still pretty novice), i just havnent *installed* it--friends always did it for me. So i'm sure PCBSD or DesktopBSD are good solutions, but i'm trying to do a full install of the real thing, and learn how to do this myself. Jen - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due processor. nice choice What do i need to do to make sure i'm getting the use of both cores? I read through the Handbook on Installation and it doesnt say anything about this. booting FreeBSD of the CD automatically detects the number of CPU's and boots the SMP kernel config. after you do your installation, with no custom kernel, it will continue to do so. the safe option is of course to build your own Kernel with SMP enabled. you are safer off installing PCBSD or DesktopBSD, though the former will give you an easier out fit for that hardware Thanks. Any other thoughts welcome! Im a little nervous about this, but the T60 seems to be well supported. you are welcome -- Mike Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in a million chances happen 99% of the time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
On 2/12/07, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due processor. What do i need to do to make sure i'm getting the use of both cores? I read through the Handbook on Installation and it doesnt say anything about this. Thanks. Any other thoughts welcome! Im a little nervous about this, but the T60 seems to be well supported. Jen The best approach to learn more about FreeBSD in my opinion is to install PCBSD 1.3.01 which is based on FreeBSD 6.1 or DesktopBSD 1.6-RC1 which is FreeBSD 6.2 , they will detect your cpus and will install the right kernel to use both cpus beside complete ready FreeBSD with KDE desktop in your thinkpad notebook. http://www.pcbsd.org/?p=download http://desktopbsd.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=940&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60 -- Regards, -Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri Arab Portal http://www.WeArab.Net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
Create a custom kernel with SMP enabled. -Derek At 11:35 AM 2/12/2007, Dr. Jennifer Nussbaum wrote: Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due processor. What do i need to do to make sure i'm getting the use of both cores? I read through the Handbook on Installation and it doesnt say anything about this. Thanks. Any other thoughts welcome! Im a little nervous about this, but the T60 seems to be well supported. Jen - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Newbie--new install on Core 2 Duo?
Ive never installed FreeBSD by myself, its always been installed for me by someone. But im planning on getting a new laptop soon, thinking of the ThinkPad T60, which now has a Intel Core 2 Due processor. What do i need to do to make sure i'm getting the use of both cores? I read through the Handbook on Installation and it doesnt say anything about this. Thanks. Any other thoughts welcome! Im a little nervous about this, but the T60 seems to be well supported. Jen - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Which build to use for Intel Core 2 Duo 64-bit?
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > Which build should I use to build a native 64-bit installation on an > Intel Core 2 Duo (E6600)? AMD64 kernel, SMP variant. Specific compiler optimizations will not yield high enough benefits to be generally useful but it probably[*] won't hurt you. [*] There was a period when there was a bug in gcc which caused it to generate bad code for certain processor optimizations such as CPUTYPE=P4. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Which build to use for Intel Core 2 Duo 64-bit?
Which build should I use to build a native 64-bit installation on an Intel Core 2 Duo (E6600)? Can I use the AMD64 build? Is there anything I should be careful when rebuilding from source after a cvsup? Can I just use the AMD64 build and CPUTYPE=nocona in /etc/make.conf ? Thanks in advance, Tom Veldhouse ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Intel LGA775/Core 2 Duo compatible motherboard with serial redirection
Hi, i'm looking for low profile boards, no audio, fancy vga etc, just serial console redirection capable Anyone have any recommendations? The Intel desktop boards are exactly what i'm after (Low profile, fxp/em onboard, although have audio which can be disabled I guess), however they don't appear to be able to redirect console/vga output to serial. Thanks Joe -- finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: choosing the cputype for core 2 duo?
So the „server" has a conroe core 2 duo processor. What would be the best choice in make.conf as a CPUTYPE paramater for this processor (other make.conf related recommendations also welcome). I have had only experience installing freebsd on a bit older amd machines where the choise was obvious. I think the closest you can use is pentium-m, while adding -msse3 to CFLAGS. Perhaps something like: CPUTYPE?=pentium-m CFLAGS=-O2 -mmmx -msse -msse2 -msse3 -pipe Regards, Josh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
choosing the cputype for core 2 duo?
Hi, So I am building an allaround server for an average business, 30 or so workstations and some misc machines. I was presented with a machine, which in my mind is bit of an overkill, but if they are willing to spend then I think I should give them the maximum I can squeeze out from that PC. So the „server” has a conroe core 2 duo processor. What would be the best choice in make.conf as a CPUTYPE paramater for this processor (other make.conf related recommendations also welcome). I have had only experience installing freebsd on a bit older amd machines where the choise was obvious. Thank you all in advance, Oliver ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 cpu
--- Johan Johansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I want to buy a pc from deltatronic.de with Intel > Core 2 Duo E6600 cpu > and mainbord Asus P5W. My boss says ok, if I can run > FreeBSD on it. > > Can I? You have a good boss.:-) My boss used to make fun of me, "What on earth are you running? Why don't you run linux like everybody else?" Anyway FreeBSD would certainly run. Go ahead and buy it! regards, Girish > > mvh > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 cpu
I want to buy a pc from deltatronic.de with Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 cpu and mainbord Asus P5W. My boss says ok, if I can run FreeBSD on it. Can I? mvh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
