List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Oliver Iberien
I have never been on a list from which I have received as much help as this 
one, which raises a question for me. I would like to thank the people who 
post questions to my answers, such as the fellow below, but don't want to 
spam people's inboxes and/or the with thank-you notes that may be archived 
for all time. Do people generally expect a note of thanks?

Oliver


On Friday 24 March 2006 11:47, Dan Nelson wrote:
 In the last episode (Mar 24), Oliver Iberien said:
  This may be a silly question, but I wanted to make sure:
 
  I have a SCSI R/W CD-ROM drive and an IDE DVD read-only drive. There
  have been times with linux where enabling SCSI emulation made the
  actual SCSI drive unavailable to k3b. I just want to make sure that
  adding ATAPICAM won't somehow get in the way of the actual SCSI
  device. Will it?

 At worst it may shuffle the device number if the atapi drive gets
 probed first.
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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I have never been on a list from which I have received as much help as this 
 one, which raises a question for me. I would like to thank the people who 
 post questions to my answers, such as the fellow below, but don't want to 
 spam people's inboxes and/or the with thank-you notes that may be archived 
 for all time. Do people generally expect a note of thanks?

Well, it is considered a good thing to respond with some information
or statement indicating if and how something was actually successful in
fixing a problem so that that information will get archived.

You could include a brief thank you in that message.

Anyway, considering how much dross and OT rave-ons that get posted
to the list, I can't imagine that anyone would object to a pleasant
thank you now and then.

jerry

 Oliver
 
 On Friday 24 March 2006 11:47, Dan Nelson wrote:
  In the last episode (Mar 24), Oliver Iberien said:
   This may be a silly question, but I wanted to make sure:
  
   I have a SCSI R/W CD-ROM drive and an IDE DVD read-only drive. There
   have been times with linux where enabling SCSI emulation made the
   actual SCSI drive unavailable to k3b. I just want to make sure that
   adding ATAPICAM won't somehow get in the way of the actual SCSI
   device. Will it?
 
  At worst it may shuffle the device number if the atapi drive gets
  probed first.
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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Bart Silverstrim


On Mar 24, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Oliver Iberien wrote:

I have never been on a list from which I have received as much help as 
this
one, which raises a question for me. I would like to thank the people 
who
post questions to my answers, such as the fellow below, but don't want 
to
spam people's inboxes and/or the with thank-you notes that may be 
archived

for all time. Do people generally expect a note of thanks?


System admins expecting thanks?

ho-boy!  That's a good one.

:-)

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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Patrick Bowen

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:05:35 -0800, Oliver Iberien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I have never been on a list from which I have received as much help as
 this 
 one, which raises a question for me. I would like to thank the people who 
 post questions to my answers, such as the fellow below, but don't want to 
 spam people's inboxes and/or the with thank-you notes that may be
 archived 
 for all time. Do people generally expect a note of thanks?
 
 Oliver
 
 
 On Friday 24 March 2006 11:47, Dan Nelson wrote:
  In the last episode (Mar 24), Oliver Iberien said:
   This may be a silly question, but I wanted to make sure:
  
   I have a SCSI R/W CD-ROM drive and an IDE DVD read-only drive. There
   have been times with linux where enabling SCSI emulation made the
   actual SCSI drive unavailable to k3b. I just want to make sure that
   adding ATAPICAM won't somehow get in the way of the actual SCSI
   device. Will it?
 
  At worst it may shuffle the device number if the atapi drive gets
  probed first.
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Oliver:

I think it's generally expected that you reply to their help with
something like Bummer, that didn't work. or That fixed my problem!
Thanks so much!! I don't know, however, whether thank you's should be
privately or to the list. I usually say my thanks on the list. I guess I
feel that public help should receive public praise.

Patrick
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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Kinsey

Jerry McAllister wrote:

I have never been on a list from which I have received as much help as this 
one, which raises a question for me. I would like to thank the people who 
post questions to my answers, such as the fellow below, but don't want to 
spam people's inboxes and/or the with thank-you notes that may be archived 
for all time. Do people generally expect a note of thanks?
   



Well, it is considered a good thing to respond with some information
or statement indicating if and how something was actually successful in
fixing a problem so that that information will get archived.

You could include a brief thank you in that message.

Anyway, considering how much dross and OT rave-ons that get posted
to the list, I can't imagine that anyone would object to a pleasant
thank you now and then.
 


Thanks for that, Jerry.  ;)

Kevin Kinsey

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It's helpful to say thank you!.  Sometimes, when you're sitting
the livelong day staring at the monitor, you need that.  It's
particularly an effective remedy for troll attacks and the pain
of burns from flame wars.

As another posted mentioned, it's often nice, if a problem is
a big one, if the resolution of the problem is summed up
as well, for the archive's sake.

I think that the best reward for many of us is that people
use and enjoy FreeBSD, and get some real work done with it,
as well.

KDK

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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread jdow

From: Patrick Bowen [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:05:35 -0800, Oliver Iberien
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I have never been on a list from which I have received as much help as
this 
one, which raises a question for me. I would like to thank the people who 
post questions to my answers, such as the fellow below, but don't want to 
spam people's inboxes and/or the with thank-you notes that may be
archived 
for all time. Do people generally expect a note of thanks?


Oliver



Oliver:

I think it's generally expected that you reply to their help with
something like Bummer, that didn't work. or That fixed my problem!
Thanks so much!! I don't know, however, whether thank you's should be
privately or to the list. I usually say my thanks on the list. I guess I
feel that public help should receive public praise.

Patrick


Patrick, if a person replies to the help that worked with a (SOLVED)
header addition the solution is archived. It is in a relatively easy
to find form. So it benefits all.

(And a sysadmin who expects thanks is a fool. A sysadmin who does not
appreciate thanks or objects to another getting a thank you message, is
not a fit human being to live. And indeed he is not living a full life.
He's in a half life of grouch, which will lead to an early grave.)

Note that Thank you is about all the pay anybody here gets for offering
solutions. Those two words feed the soul. Accept the food and cherish it.

{^_-}   Joanne
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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Jonathan Horne
im fond of the next time im in [your town] ill stop off and buy you a
beer!

:)

jonathan
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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Gerard Seibert
Oliver Iberien wrote:

 I have never been on a list from which I have received as much help as this 
 one, which raises a question for me. I would like to thank the people who 
 post questions to my answers, such as the fellow below, but don't want to 
 spam people's inboxes and/or the with thank-you notes that may be archived 
 for all time. Do people generally expect a note of thanks?
 
 Oliver
 
 
 On Friday 24 March 2006 11:47, Dan Nelson wrote:
  In the last episode (Mar 24), Oliver Iberien said:
   This may be a silly question, but I wanted to make sure:
  
   I have a SCSI R/W CD-ROM drive and an IDE DVD read-only drive. There
   have been times with linux where enabling SCSI emulation made the
   actual SCSI drive unavailable to k3b. I just want to make sure that
   adding ATAPICAM won't somehow get in the way of the actual SCSI
   device. Will it?
 
  At worst it may shuffle the device number if the atapi drive gets
  probed first.


Well, personally I prefer cash.

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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Garrett Cooper

Jonathan Horne wrote:


im fond of the next time im in [your town] ill stop off and buy you a
beer!

:)

jonathan
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That is an awesome way to do things. Gotta love beer-funded 
programming/support :).

-Garrett
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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 im fond of the next time im in [your town] ill stop off and buy you a
 beer!

It gets the point across too.

jerry

 :)
 
 jonathan
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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Gary Kline
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 04:30:02PM -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote:
 Jonathan Horne wrote:
 
 im fond of the next time im in [your town] ill stop off and buy you a
 beer!
 
 :)
 
 jonathan
  
 
 That is an awesome way to do things. Gotta love beer-funded 
 programming/support :).
 -Garrett


I'll secnd that!  This is about the best out there in
List-Land.  I've asked my share of questions in the
dumb-question dept, but folks usually put up with them
with few flames.  --Beyond that, thanks to the FBSD lists
I've made some outstanding friendships offline.  Now if
nly the rest of the globe could get along this way::
Wow!

:-)

gary


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Re: List Etiquette Question - Thank yous

2006-03-24 Thread Oliver Iberien
I've posted questions to the linux users' groups for SuSE and Mandriva during 
my years as a linux desktop user. They are largely composed of posts by my 
fellow amateur enthusiasts, whose knowledge does not go very deep. This 
list's base seems to be IT professionals who are happy to help non-competent 
strangers, and do so clearly and tactfully. (And in some cases, such as with 
the fellow from obsecurity.com, with a five-minute turnaround.) I find this 
remarkable, and much appreciate it. 

Also, the online FreeBSD handbook is a much more useful thing than anything I 
ever paid to get from SuSE or Mandriva. I'm not getting all the GUI tools I 
had with linux, but I have better help and better-organized reference 
materials.

Thanks,

Oliver


On Friday 24 March 2006 18:59, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 It's helpful to say thank you!.  Sometimes, when you're sitting
 the livelong day staring at the monitor, you need that.  It's
 particularly an effective remedy for troll attacks and the pain
 of burns from flame wars.

 As another posted mentioned, it's often nice, if a problem is
 a big one, if the resolution of the problem is summed up
 as well, for the archive's sake.

 I think that the best reward for many of us is that people
 use and enjoy FreeBSD, and get some real work done with it,
 as well.

 KDK
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