Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 23:48 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I did consider running it off a straight cd, but I alter my routes enough through various tunnels I have established that this would be a pain. (i.e. updating vtund configs) ... System on CD, reading config from floppy? I've tried this, in my own mix due to rcorder, an external /etc filesystem is not read NOR mounted in time to be read. When I did it and tried to bring it up ASAP, the system failed to read hostname variable in the external /etc filesystem. I haven't yet, and probably won't try -- to rewrite the /etc/rc startup to allow it. And I think it's because /etc/rc sources /etc/rc.conf even before it runs So how can I start rc and get the external /etc/rc.conf read before rc starts? I'd like to know, if it's possible. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
Tim Judd gmail.com!taj...@agora.rdrop.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 23:48 -0800, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: I did consider running it off a straight cd, but I alter my routes enough through various tunnels I have established that this would be a pain. (i.e. updating vtund configs) ... System on CD, reading config from floppy? I've tried this, in my own mix due to rcorder, an external /etc filesystem is not read NOR mounted in time to be read. When I did it and tried to bring it up ASAP, the system failed to read hostname variable in the external /etc filesystem. I haven't yet, and probably won't try -- to rewrite the /etc/rc startup to allow it. And I think it's because /etc/rc sources /etc/rc.conf even before it runs So how can I start rc and get the external /etc/rc.conf read before rc starts? I'd like to know, if it's possible. There's no way to mount /etc AFAIK, because parts of it are needed too soon: /etc/fstab if nothing else. However, I had gotten the impression that the only frequently-changing part of the config in question involved vtund. Rather than trying to do the mount early, I was thinking of starting vtund later than usual -- perhaps by making it depend on the completion of mount -a -- and having it read its config from a file on the mounted floppy. If vtund has to start sooner than that, an alternate approach might be to have vtund read its config from the /dev/fd0 device itself, rather than from a filesystem mounted on /dev/fd0 (having prepared the floppy ahead of time by something like dd if=/path/to/vtund/config/file of=/dev/fd0). Yet another approach would be to have boot and root (and thus /etc) on floppy, but /usr on CD. Tweaking things so that /usr can be read-only dates back at least as far as SunOS 4.0. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
NanoBSD :: smallest image size
Hello list, I have an old machine I just acquired that I was thinking of replacing my current FreeBSD firewall/router with. It's a Celeron 500+ Mhz machine with 32 Megs of ram, and a 10G hard drive. I am(was) initially thinking about taking out the 10G, and using the flobby disk drive to boot off of. I was familiar with PicoBSD years ago and know I could use that, but it seems that project has been discontinued. After looking through archives to determine what to do, I can across nanoBSD as that seems to be included in the FreeBSD system by default, henceforth this question. I couldn't find any information regarding the smallest image size possible using NanoBSD. So the question is: can nanoBSD fw/ the proper configurations fit onto a floppy disk...and if not, is such an old computer bootable off of a usb stick? How can I tell without buying one? Thanks, ~Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
I have an old machine I just acquired that I was thinking of replacing my current FreeBSD firewall/router with. It's a Celeron 500+ Mhz machine with quite powerfull machine, it will run smoothly full FreeBSD installed on hard drive. i think it's much better solution. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
Thursday 19 February 2009 15:07:50 Paul Procacci napisał(a): After looking through archives to determine what to do, I can across nanoBSD as that seems to be included in the FreeBSD system by default, henceforth this question. I couldn't find any information regarding the smallest image size possible using NanoBSD. So the question is: can nanoBSD fw/ the proper configurations fit onto a floppy disk...and if not, is such an old computer bootable off of a usb stick? How can I tell without buying one? I think that it will be quite hard to make it running from floppy. If you don't want to install it on this HD (f.ex. because of noise) then you can replace HDD with Disk-On-Module or CF card with CF-IDE adapter. With booting from usb on such rather old computers I had so many problems that I went for other options like these mentioned above. Maciek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
Wojciech Puchar wrote: I have an old machine I just acquired that I was thinking of replacing my current FreeBSD firewall/router with. It's a Celeron 500+ Mhz machine with quite powerfull machine, it will run smoothly full FreeBSD installed on hard drive. i think it's much better solution. Yeah, I realize it's more powerful than necessary to handle the task...though my current firewall/router is a 860+ Mhz PIII w/ 128 Megs of ram. So, this would be a downgrade for my current firewall/router which allows me to repurpose the existing machine for something more computationally expensive. Still though, I like information requested on nanoBSD (can it fit on a floppy), and how if booting off a usb stick is doable. I imagine this has to do with later bios's...or not? Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
Yeah, I realize it's more powerful than necessary to handle the task...though my current firewall/router is a 860+ Mhz PIII w/ 128 Megs of ram. So, this would be a downgrade for my current firewall/router which allows me to repurpose the existing machine for something more computationally expensive. so - downgrade. FreeBSD easily runs (full, not stripped) on 32MB RAM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
Maciej Milewski wrote: Thursday 19 February 2009 15:07:50 Paul Procacci napisał(a): After looking through archives to determine what to do, I can across nanoBSD as that seems to be included in the FreeBSD system by default, henceforth this question. I couldn't find any information regarding the smallest image size possible using NanoBSD. So the question is: can nanoBSD fw/ the proper configurations fit onto a floppy disk...and if not, is such an old computer bootable off of a usb stick? How can I tell without buying one? I think that it will be quite hard to make it running from floppy. If you don't want to install it on this HD (f.ex. because of noise) then you can replace HDD with Disk-On-Module or CF card with CF-IDE adapter. With booting from usb on such rather old computers I had so many problems that I went for other options like these mentioned above. Maciek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org This information was precisely what I was looking for. Thank you. ~Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
even so, im not so sure alot of people with to run a full install on a firewall, for various reasons. If I was doing it, Id go with a CF card, or USB, though age of system might make that unreliable. even pfsense can run straight off cdrom, makes a decent option also. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Yeah, I realize it's more powerful than necessary to handle the task...though my current firewall/router is a 860+ Mhz PIII w/ 128 Megs of ram. So, this would be a downgrade for my current firewall/router which allows me to repurpose the existing machine for something more computationally expensive. so - downgrade. FreeBSD easily runs (full, not stripped) on 32MB RAM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
Outback Dingo wrote: even so, im not so sure alot of people with to run a full install on a firewall, for various reasons. If I was doing it, Id go with a CF card, or USB, though age of system might make that unreliable. even pfsense can run straight off cdrom, makes a decent option also. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Yeah, I realize it's more powerful than necessary to handle the task...though my current firewall/router is a 860+ Mhz PIII w/ 128 Megs of ram. So, this would be a downgrade for my current firewall/router which allows me to repurpose the existing machine for something more computationally expensive. so - downgrade. FreeBSD easily runs (full, not stripped) on 32MB RAM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org I did consider running it off a straight cd, but I alter my routes enough through various tunnels I have established that this would be a pain. (i.e. updating vtund configs) The disk-on-module is spot on and that's what I'll probably use: $14 bucks for 128 Megs w/ NanoBSD I believe is goingn to suffice nicely. Thanks Guys! ~Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
Anybody knows if NanoBSD can be installed on a hard disk and use it to store data, logs, etc? for example, for a tiny mail server? Paul Procacci wrote: Hello list, I have an old machine I just acquired that I was thinking of replacing my current FreeBSD firewall/router with. It's a Celeron 500+ Mhz machine with 32 Megs of ram, and a 10G hard drive. I am(was) initially thinking about taking out the 10G, and using the flobby disk drive to boot off of. I was familiar with PicoBSD years ago and know I could use that, but it seems that project has been discontinued. After looking through archives to determine what to do, I can across nanoBSD as that seems to be included in the FreeBSD system by default, henceforth this question. I couldn't find any information regarding the smallest image size possible using NanoBSD. So the question is: can nanoBSD fw/ the proper configurations fit onto a floppy disk...and if not, is such an old computer bootable off of a usb stick? How can I tell without buying one? Thanks, ~Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: NanoBSD :: smallest image size
I did consider running it off a straight cd, but I alter my routes enough through various tunnels I have established that this would be a pain. (i.e. updating vtund configs) ... System on CD, reading config from floppy? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
