On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 08:06:02PM -0700, Liontaur wrote:
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Mikle Krutov nekoexmach...@gmail.com
wrote:
It's not on your list but I just got an HP 210-1010CA Mini Netbook (for
work) that
On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 03:52:43PM -0700, Liontaur wrote:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 08:06:02PM -0700, Liontaur wrote:
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Mikle Krutov nekoexmach...@gmail.com
wrote:
It's not on your
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
Dredging up physics unused for 30+ years, ferrite is ferromagnetic and
intensifies magnetic fields so a coil of wire with ferrite inside is a
massively bigger inductor then an empty coil. I vaguely remember that brass
is
:34 -0400
Cc:
Subject: Re: Greybeards (Re: Netbooks BSD)
On October 20, 2010 03:46:06 pm Bob Hall wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:07:55PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 10/20/2010 11:55 AM, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:47:38AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Mikle Krutov nekoexmach...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello, list!
I'm going to buy a netbook soon, so a question is which one.
The choice is between
1) Samsung N127
2) ASUS Eee PC 900AX
3) MSI U120-094
Which one is the best for running FreeBSD?
The best mainly is for
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 07:25:14PM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
And I'm appalled that my phone has more horsepower than a dual-cpu VAX
11/780 with a floating-point accelerator. That just doesn't seem right.
What I find appalling is that most of the extra power on my smartphone is
wasted on
On 10/20/10 23:07, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 09:10:28PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote:
On 10/20/10 20:46, Bob Hall wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:07:55PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 10/20/2010 11:55 AM, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:47:38AM -0700,
Svein Skogen (Listmail account) svein-listm...@tillbilde.net wrote:
On 20.10.2010 09:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline
escribi?:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back
generally though because of ACPI issues.
Peter Harrison
www.4harrisons.blogspot.com
-
From: David Brodbeck g...@gull.us
Subject:Re: Netbooks BSD
Date: 20th October 2010 19:33
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote
Hi,
Reference:
From: David Brodbeck g...@gull.us
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:58:40 -0700
Message-id: aanlkti=zo1ojzcqs4xyezvmkonmt6uv_vmqki0hik...@mail.gmail.com
David Brodbeck wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
On 10/20/10
On 20 October 2010 21:10, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
On 10/20/10 20:46, Bob Hall wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:07:55PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 10/20/2010 11:55 AM, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:47:38AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Wed Oct 20 15:04:17 2010
From: Mike Jeays mike.je...@rogers.com
To: Bob Hall rjh...@gmail.com,
FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:05:34 -0400
Cc:
Subject: Re: Greybeards (Re: Netbooks BSD
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Thu Oct 21 02:18:28 2010
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:20:07 +0100
From: Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org
To: FreeBSD-Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Greybeards (Re: Netbooks BSD)
On 10/20/10 23:07, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:54:21 -0700, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote:
Fortunately, USB mass storage devices are highly standardized. One of
the things they got right.
Highly, but not fully. In some cases, manufacturers know better
and produce memory sticks that don't work on FreeBSD as they
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:10:28 +0100
Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
50s) had the experience of programming microcode on a machine by
inserting brass slugs for 0s and ferrite slugs for 1s on a pin board.
I wonder why it was brass/ferrite rather than brass/empty or
ferrite/empty.
On 10/21/10 13:38, RW wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:10:28 +0100
Arthur Chancefree...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
50s) had the experience of programming microcode on a machine by
inserting brass slugs for 0s and ferrite slugs for 1s on a pin board.
I wonder why it was brass/ferrite rather than
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 01:38:44PM +0100, RW wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:10:28 +0100
Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
50s) had the experience of programming microcode on a machine by
inserting brass slugs for 0s and ferrite slugs for 1s on a pin board.
I wonder why it was
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:33:46 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
I couldn't not format it (it was some FAT format on it) as it
detached from the system by itself as soon as accessed.
It might just have been faulty. If it couldn't be accessed as a normal
device, how would the driver get
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:54:21 -0700, David Brodbeck g...@gull.us wrote:
Fortunately, USB mass storage devices are highly standardized. One of
the things they got right.
Highly, but not fully. In some cases, manufacturers know
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 09:01:56 -0500, Antonio Olivares olivares14...@gmail.com
wrote:
This is true. I had some problems making a usb mouse work, but I had
to manually plug it in to different usb slots till it worked from the
start. The keyboard(usb) sometimes takes a while longer to respond
David Brodbeck g...@gull.us writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Lowell Gilbert
freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote:
The plug isn't the issue. Drivers are.
Fortunately, USB mass storage devices are highly standardized. One of
the things they got right.
ATAPI devices passed
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:32:23 +0100
Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
On 10/21/10 13:38, RW wrote:
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:10:28 +0100
Arthur Chancefree...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
50s) had the experience of programming microcode on a machine by
inserting brass slugs for 0s and
My first machine was an IBM 1620, but hey, at least we had an actual disk.
A couple of 2311's.
To quote a fellow I used to consult for, two days' I had solved a
particularly nasty programming problem for his company, But what have you
done for us lately?
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 10:57 AM, RW
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:33:46 +0200
Polytropon free...@edvax.de articulated:
umass0: SanDisk Cruzer Micro, class 0/0, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 2 on
uhub2 da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: SanDisk Cruzer Micro 8.02 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0
device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers
da0:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 02:26:36PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:15:46 -0700
From: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org
Sender: owner-freebsd-mob...@freebsd.org
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:32:01AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Gary
On Thu, 21 Oct 2010, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 02:26:36PM -0700, Kevin Oberman wrote:
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:15:46 -0700
From: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org
[..]
The thing about the memsticks is that on my tower cases, you
have to get down and crawl around and
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 07:26:01AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
El día Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline escribió:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the VAX
780 days :-)
I booted my first UNIX V7 tape on a PDP-11 around 1982, I
On 20/10/10 04.29, Gary Kline wrote:
$150 is seriously in my price range [!] But what about the
optical drive? If I can buy one on sale and install FBSD from a
CD or DVD, do all optivcal drive fit all notebooks?
With a few things that I probably will buy.
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline escribi?:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the VAX
780 days :-)
I booted my first UNIX V7 tape on a PDP-11 around 1982, I think.
Gotcha beat :) UNIX
On 20.10.2010 09:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline escribi?:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the VAX
780 days :-)
I booted my first UNIX V7 tape on a
On 10/20/10 09:32, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote:
On 20.10.2010 09:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitzg...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline escribi?:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the
On October 20, 2010 03:47:38 am per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline
escribi?:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the VAX
780 days :-)
I booted my first UNIX
On 20 Oct 2010 at 10:32, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote:
On 20.10.2010 09:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline
escribi?:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 00:47:38 -0700
From: per...@pluto.rain.com
Sender: owner-freebsd-mob...@freebsd.org
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline
escribi?:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:47:38AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline
escribi?:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the VAX
780 days :-)
I booted my
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:32:58AM +0200, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote:
On 20.10.2010 09:47, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline
escribi?:
PS: I really _was_ current on
On 10/20/2010 11:55 AM, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:47:38AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline
escribi?:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 08:26:14AM +0200, Uffe Jakobsen wrote:
On 20/10/10 04.29, Gary Kline wrote:
$150 is seriously in my price range [!] But what about the
optical drive? If I can buy one on sale and install FBSD from a
CD or DVD, do all optivcal drive fit all
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
Sure, the optical uses [I think] a USB connector. Pretty sure
that all these tiny toys are made at one factory! and then
labeled by the vendor. If all the opticals are essentially
the same, then
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:07:55PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 10/20/2010 11:55 AM, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:47:38AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline
On October 20, 2010 03:46:06 pm Bob Hall wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:07:55PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 10/20/2010 11:55 AM, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:47:38AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October
On 10/20/10 20:46, Bob Hall wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:07:55PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 10/20/2010 11:55 AM, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:47:38AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias Apitzg...@unixarea.de wrote:
El d?a Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:32:01AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
Sure, the optical uses [I think] a USB connector. Pretty sure
that all these tiny toys are made at one factory! and then
labeled by the
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:15:46 -0700
From: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org
Sender: owner-freebsd-mob...@freebsd.org
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:32:01AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
Sure, the optical uses [I think]
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org writes:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:32:01AM -0700, David Brodbeck wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
Sure, the optical uses [I think] a USB connector. Pretty sure
that all these tiny toys are made at one
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Lowell Gilbert
freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote:
The plug isn't the issue. Drivers are.
Fortunately, USB mass storage devices are highly standardized. One of
the things they got right.
Now, the USB keyboard protocol...ugh, they really dropped the
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Arthur Chance free...@qeng-ho.org wrote:
On 10/20/10 20:46, Bob Hall wrote:
Getting back to reality, although I never did it (fortunately), a friend of
mine who was about a decade older than me (I'm mid/late 50s) had the
experience of programming microcode on a
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 09:10:28PM +0100, Arthur Chance wrote:
On 10/20/10 20:46, Bob Hall wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:07:55PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote:
On 10/20/2010 11:55 AM, Gary Kline wrote:
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:47:38AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
Matthias
Quoth David Brodbeck on Wednesday, 20 October 2010:
Now, the USB keyboard protocol...ugh, they really dropped the ball on
that one. It's standardized, which is good, but it's a polling
interface and tends to occasionally lose events under high CPU load,
which is bad. Especially if it's a
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Chip Camden
sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote:
Quoth David Brodbeck on Wednesday, 20 October 2010:
Now, the USB keyboard protocol...ugh, they really dropped the ball on
that one. It's standardized, which is good, but it's a polling
interface and tends to
Unix, v6, on a PDP-11 (although I can't recall which model), circa 1977.
Got away from it for a bit, then landed in the middle of the v6-v7 shift
and the BSD takeover a couple of years later. Still recall being amazed
by the Fujitsu Eagle (small form factor, large capacity).
And I'm appalled
El día Sunday, October 17, 2010 a las 12:17:16PM -0600, Warren Block escribió:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote:
Any alternative netbooks outside Asus which run FreeBSD?
Of course. The Acer Aspire models vary, but the D250 is nice.
Just to make sure: you mean the Acer Aspire
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote:
El d?a Sunday, October 17, 2010 a las 12:17:16PM -0600, Warren Block escribi?:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote:
Any alternative netbooks outside Asus which run FreeBSD?
Of course. The Acer Aspire models vary, but the D250 is nice.
The cheapo way, if you get a model without a harddisk, is a compact flash
card with an adapter for a few bucks. I currently have this combination
in my Thinkpad (although its an ata to CF-adapter). Works great,
lightweight, shockproof and reads really fast from the 'harddisk'.
Downside is the
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 02:53:30PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote:
El d?a Sunday, October 17, 2010 a las 12:17:16PM -0600, Warren Block
escribi?:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote:
Any alternative netbooks outside Asus which run FreeBSD?
On October 19, 2010 10:29:46 pm Gary Kline wrote:
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 02:53:30PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote:
El d?a Sunday, October 17, 2010 a las 12:17:16PM -0600, Warren Block
escribi?:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote:
Any
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:50:05 -0400, Mike Jeays mike.je...@rogers.com
wrote:
On October 19, 2010 10:29:46 pm Gary Kline wrote:
$150 is seriously in my price range [!] But what about the
optical drive? If I can buy one on sale and install FBSD from a
CD or DVD, do
El día Tuesday, October 19, 2010 a las 07:29:46PM -0700, Gary Kline escribió:
PS: I really _was_ current on hardware stuff. Back in the VAX
780 days :-)
I booted my first UNIX V7 tape on a PDP-11 around 1982, I think.
matthias
--
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t +49-89-61308 351 - f
El día Wednesday, October 06, 2010 a las 09:33:08AM -0400, bdsf...@att.net
escribió:
+1 on EeePC, mine being the 1000. This uses a not-yet-supported wireless
card (rt2860), but a driver is available and seems to work fine:
http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=7010
Mikle Krutov nekoexmach...@gmail.com writes:
Hello, list!
I'm going to buy a netbook soon, so a question is which one.
The choice is between
1) Samsung N127
2) ASUS Eee PC 900AX
3) MSI U120-094
Which one is the best for running FreeBSD?
The best mainly is for opensource (e.g. not ndis)
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Matthias Apitz wrote:
Any alternative netbooks outside Asus which run FreeBSD?
Of course. The Acer Aspire models vary, but the D250 is nice.
http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/index.html
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:50:12 -0400, Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de
wrote:
El día Monday, October 04, 2010 a las 11:33:02PM +, Mikle Krutov
escribió:
Hello, list!
I'm going to buy a netbook soon, so a question is which one.
The choice is between
1) Samsung N127
2) ASUS Eee PC 900AX
3)
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 09:33:08AM -0400, bdsf...@att.net wrote:
On Mon, 04 Oct 2010 15:50:12 -0400, Matthias Apitz
g...@unixarea.de wrote:
El día Monday, October 04, 2010 a las 11:33:02PM +, Mikle
Krutov escribió:
Hello, list!
I'm going to buy a netbook soon, so a question is which
On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 04:45:35PM -0400, bdsf...@att.net wrote:
On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:54:35 -0400, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
This brings a question to mind; maybe you know; maybe somebody
else on the list does. Say that I buy an EEE 10 Atom, max out
the memory
Hello, list!
I'm going to buy a netbook soon, so a question is which one.
The choice is between
1) Samsung N127
2) ASUS Eee PC 900AX
3) MSI U120-094
Which one is the best for running FreeBSD?
The best mainly is for opensource (e.g. not ndis) stable wireless
drivers.
So, any good experience and
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 18:33, Mikle Krutov nekoexmach...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, list!
I'm going to buy a netbook soon, so a question is which one.
The choice is between
1) Samsung N127
2) ASUS Eee PC 900AX
3) MSI U120-094
Which one is the best for running FreeBSD?
The best mainly is for
El día Monday, October 04, 2010 a las 11:33:02PM +, Mikle Krutov escribió:
Hello, list!
I'm going to buy a netbook soon, so a question is which one.
The choice is between
1) Samsung N127
2) ASUS Eee PC 900AX
3) MSI U120-094
Which one is the best for running FreeBSD?
The best mainly is
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