Re: installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000

2006-09-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: Lee Shackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 9:23 AM
Subject: Re: installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000


 Good morning, Mr. Mittelstaedt.  Again, many thanks for your response to
my
 question.  My original purpose in purchasing the computer was to install
 multiple operating systems for hobbyist purpose.  The computer's major
 selling point was that it has five hard drives.  My original idea was to
 install a different operating system on each one.  When I discovered that
 it had the rather sophisticated RAID-5 system implemented in hardware, I
 discarded that idea in favor of partitioning the hard drive to install the
 operating systems.  The next operating system that I wanted after Windows
 Server 2000, with which it came equipped was FreeBSD.  This project has
 become painfully involved, first of all, because I did not understand the
 fact, documented nowhere, that the BIOS of a computer intended to be a
 server is totally different from the BIOS of a computer intended to be a
 workstation.  With experience, and with information eventually traded
 across the internet from other computer enthusiasts trying to do the same
 thing, I have eventually gained enough understanding of the BIOS to
 proceed.

OK, you bought the computer to install operating systems on to do - what?

Seems to me you wanted to install them to LEARN.

Well, a computer OS is an integral part of the computer - like
ying and yang, each requires the other.

How exactly did you think that you were going to be able to learn
anything whatsoever of value about an operating system by completely
ignoring the hardware it was running on?

Seems to me your money has been well spent on training.  I'm
sorry if the training isn't teaching you things that you think you thought
you needed to know.  But guess what, life is like that.

Let me put it another way.

If I needed to hire someone to install a Windows server, which
would be a better choice?

Someone who actually knows that server BIOS's are somewhat
different than Workstation BIOSES?

Someone who has actually installed a server OS and solved problems
with getting it to work on hardware they are unfamiliar with?

Or, some newly-minted MSCSE who has only installed Windows
on his desktop computer, but by golly, knows all the definitions
in the Microsoft literature?

Think about it.

 The process has also been stymied by the fact that the developers
 of the boot program for sysinstall have failed, even in its latest
edition,
 to install in BOOT the necessary features to read the output of a Compaq
 server BIOS, in particular the ability to correctly interpret the size of
 memory.

The developers know all about the Compaq issues.  Those are first
of all solved in the latest Compaq BIOSES that ship with the current
HP/Compaq servers.  Secondly, there's workarounds.  Thirdly,
Compaq did it wrong back then.  What good reason do we want
to break sysinstall to have it do things the wrong way, so that it
can work with old Compaq gear?

 Thanks to you, other respondents, and experience, I feel that I
 now have a grip of that issue.  My latest problem stems from the fact that
 I had intended to install a portion of the BSD operating system in a
 primary Windows partition (BSD slice) below the 1024 cylinder limit, and
 the rest of it in a larger Windows logical partition within the extended
 partition, above 1024 cylinders.

You need to throw most of this cylinder nonsense out the window it is
meaningless to any OS that will run on that hardware, with the exception
of DOS.

 Even though the handbook, as well as
 several other documents, clearly states that the operating system cannot
be
 loaded into a logical partition, the implication of that statement did not
 register in my brain until I tried to do it.

More learning that a lot of more advanced techs than you still don't
understand.

 I wonder if system designers
 realize the extent to which the requirements that the entire system, or at
 least the boot BSD partition be loaded below 1024 cylinders, and the
 requirement that the operating system not be loaded into the extended
 Windows partition are in conflict in a multiple operating system
 environment.

They do.  They don't care.  Multiple boot systems are for the birds.
Mostly what happens is that people load multiple OS's on a system,
intending to use all of them, then discover 3-4 months into it that
it's too much of a PIA to keep rebooting all the time to get into a
different system, and end up spending all their time in one system.

If you really want multiple OS, buy multiple computers and plug
them into a single console with a KVM switch.  Much more
practical.

But, by all means, do it anyway, you probably won't really
understand what I mean when I say they are for the birds until
you have experienced a multiboot system.  One again, more
learning.

 Some

Re: installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000

2006-09-11 Thread Lee Shackelford
Good morning, Mr. Mittelstaedt.  Again, many thanks for your response to my
question.  My original purpose in purchasing the computer was to install
multiple operating systems for hobbyist purpose.  The computer's major
selling point was that it has five hard drives.  My original idea was to
install a different operating system on each one.  When I discovered that
it had the rather sophisticated RAID-5 system implemented in hardware, I
discarded that idea in favor of partitioning the hard drive to install the
operating systems.  The next operating system that I wanted after Windows
Server 2000, with which it came equipped was FreeBSD.  This project has
become painfully involved, first of all, because I did not understand the
fact, documented nowhere, that the BIOS of a computer intended to be a
server is totally different from the BIOS of a computer intended to be a
workstation.  With experience, and with information eventually traded
across the internet from other computer enthusiasts trying to do the same
thing, I have eventually gained enough understanding of the BIOS to
proceed.  The process has also been stymied by the fact that the developers
of the boot program for sysinstall have failed, even in its latest edition,
to install in BOOT the necessary features to read the output of a Compaq
server BIOS, in particular the ability to correctly interpret the size of
memory.  Thanks to you, other respondents, and experience, I feel that I
now have a grip of that issue.  My latest problem stems from the fact that
I had intended to install a portion of the BSD operating system in a
primary Windows partition (BSD slice) below the 1024 cylinder limit, and
the rest of it in a larger Windows logical partition within the extended
partition, above 1024 cylinders.  Even though the handbook, as well as
several other documents, clearly states that the operating system cannot be
loaded into a logical partition, the implication of that statement did not
register in my brain until I tried to do it.  I wonder if system designers
realize the extent to which the requirements that the entire system, or at
least the boot BSD partition be loaded below 1024 cylinders, and the
requirement that the operating system not be loaded into the extended
Windows partition are in conflict in a multiple operating system
environment.  Some documentation says that the 1024 cylinder limit does not
apply in many cases, but it never says when it applies and when it does not
apply.  I feel, that to make this system work, I will have to use some type
of exotic partition manager such as Ranish or XOSL that can create a large
number of primary partitions.  I had originally wished to stick with GNU
tools such as parted and grub.  I realize my explanation is a bit long
winded, but I hope it clarifies my goals.  Yours truly, Lee Shackelford


   
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This isn't unusual, it happens with certain array cards.

If the disk drivers of each different operating system don't agree in how
the disk is laid out that the intelligent driver array controller
presents
to
them, then your screwed - you cannot use the array card for a multi-boot
system.

Sometimes you can get away with it by installing FreeBSD on part of
the disk, and a subsequent disk driver will see the FreeBSD partition and
understand not to overwrite it.  But, sometimes not.

It strikes me that Win 2003 Server is going to run dogpile slow, I
simply cannot fathom why you want to multiboot this system in the
first place.  The only OS's that are going to run worth a damn on it
are Linux and FreeBSD, and you just need to pick one or the
other.

Ted

PS:  You do understand

Re: installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000

2006-09-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
This isn't unusual, it happens with certain array cards.

If the disk drivers of each different operating system don't agree in how
the disk is laid out that the intelligent driver array controller presents
to
them, then your screwed - you cannot use the array card for a multi-boot
system.

Sometimes you can get away with it by installing FreeBSD on part of
the disk, and a subsequent disk driver will see the FreeBSD partition and
understand not to overwrite it.  But, sometimes not.

It strikes me that Win 2003 Server is going to run dogpile slow, I
simply cannot fathom why you want to multiboot this system in the
first place.  The only OS's that are going to run worth a damn on it
are Linux and FreeBSD, and you just need to pick one or the
other.

Ted

PS:  You do understand the difference between FreeBSD
slices, FreeBSD partitions, and IBM/BIOS partitions don't you?
That is your not doing something incorrect like trying to install
another OS within a FreeBSD logical slice


- Original Message - 
From: Lee Shackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 10:00 AM
Subject: installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000



 Initial message posted on 8/24/2006:
 Good morning dear FreeBSD enthusiasts.  I am attempting to install FreeBSD
 6.1 on a Compaq Proliant 5000.  The computer is equipped with four Pentium
 Pro processors clocked at 200 mhz and with a Smart 2/P hardware-RAID
array.
 The BIOS indicates that the first two processors have failed.  They are
 actually okay, but there is something wrong with their socket on the
 motherboard...

 Current message:
 Thank you to the two people who responded to my original message.  With
 their help, I have progressed to the point of specifying the slice into
 which I want the system installed.  There are three primary slices on this
 computer, plus one extended slice.  The three primary slices all end
within
 the 1024 cylinder limit.  The two primary slices that do not contain
 FreeBSD are reserved for the installation of other operating systems.  I
 wish to place the swap slice/partition in the extended slice.  The fdisk
 program supplied with FreeBSD  sees all of the extended slice as one
slice,
 and does not seem to be able to see the logical slices within it.  Most of
 my 15 gb. drive is in the extended slice.  Does anyone know how to solve
 this problem?  All suggestions are appreciated.  Yours truly, Lee
 Shackelford

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installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000

2006-09-06 Thread Lee Shackelford

Initial message posted on 8/24/2006:
Good morning dear FreeBSD enthusiasts.  I am attempting to install FreeBSD
6.1 on a Compaq Proliant 5000.  The computer is equipped with four Pentium
Pro processors clocked at 200 mhz and with a Smart 2/P hardware-RAID array.
The BIOS indicates that the first two processors have failed.  They are
actually okay, but there is something wrong with their socket on the
motherboard...

Current message:
Thank you to the two people who responded to my original message.  With
their help, I have progressed to the point of specifying the slice into
which I want the system installed.  There are three primary slices on this
computer, plus one extended slice.  The three primary slices all end within
the 1024 cylinder limit.  The two primary slices that do not contain
FreeBSD are reserved for the installation of other operating systems.  I
wish to place the swap slice/partition in the extended slice.  The fdisk
program supplied with FreeBSD  sees all of the extended slice as one slice,
and does not seem to be able to see the logical slices within it.  Most of
my 15 gb. drive is in the extended slice.  Does anyone know how to solve
this problem?  All suggestions are appreciated.  Yours truly, Lee
Shackelford

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Re: installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000

2006-08-26 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Give it up.  First, you need to set Windows or DOS in the BIOS setting
not SCO.  SCO sets up the SMP table all wrong.  that should also
fix the mem reporting problem.

But the big problem is that the ida driver crapped up support for
EISA cards some time ago.  I keep meaning to setup a test Proliant
and bug the ida driver author to fix it, but I have never got round
tuit.

If you can find a PCI compaq raid card you might get somewhere.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: Lee Shackelford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:27 AM
Subject: installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000



 Good morning dear FreeBSD enthusiasts.  I am attempting to install FreeBSD
 6.1 on a Compaq Proliant 5000.  The computer is equipped with four Pentium
 Pro processors clocked at 200 mhz and with a Smart 2/P hardware-RAID
array.
 The BIOS indicates that the first two processors have failed.  They are
 actually okay, but there is something wrong with their socket on the
 motherboard.

 The following sequence is being quoted from human memory.  I ran
SmartStart
 with the request to install S.C.O. OpenUnix.  Of the operating systems
 supported by SmartStart, this one sounded the most similar to FreeBSD.
 Then I rebooted with the CD containing FreeBSD 6.1 in the SCSI CD-ROM
 reader.  To my surprise, the computer booted off of the CD-ROM.
Initially,
 the screen displayed in black-and-white.  When a list box appeared, I
 entered the request for a command prompt.  The monitor immediately
 displayed a command prompt.  I entered the following commands:

 load ida
 load sym
 set Hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
 set Hw.physmem=1048576K
 boot

 The fourth command was entered because the boot program does not correctly
 interpret the memory size from the information transferred to it from the
 BIOS.  Then a lengthy list of device drivers either installed, or
 failed-to-install, scrolled down the face of the monitor, still in
 black-and-white.  Then the screen displayed a blue background, and a
 colored message appeared saying probing for devices.  Then it displayed
a
 message to choose a country code.  The display delayed response to
keyboard
 entries by two minutes or more for each keystroke.  I selected United
 States.  Several minutes later, the list box disappeared, and screen
 became blank blue.  One-half hour later, another list box displayed which
 gave the user choices of the type of install desired.   There was
 absolutely no response on the screen to any keyboard entry.  What am I
 doing wrong?  Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.  Yours truly,
 Lee

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installing 6.1 on Compaq Proliant 5000

2006-08-24 Thread Lee Shackelford

Good morning dear FreeBSD enthusiasts.  I am attempting to install FreeBSD
6.1 on a Compaq Proliant 5000.  The computer is equipped with four Pentium
Pro processors clocked at 200 mhz and with a Smart 2/P hardware-RAID array.
The BIOS indicates that the first two processors have failed.  They are
actually okay, but there is something wrong with their socket on the
motherboard.

The following sequence is being quoted from human memory.  I ran SmartStart
with the request to install S.C.O. OpenUnix.  Of the operating systems
supported by SmartStart, this one sounded the most similar to FreeBSD.
Then I rebooted with the CD containing FreeBSD 6.1 in the SCSI CD-ROM
reader.  To my surprise, the computer booted off of the CD-ROM.  Initially,
the screen displayed in black-and-white.  When a list box appeared, I
entered the request for a command prompt.  The monitor immediately
displayed a command prompt.  I entered the following commands:

load ida
load sym
set Hint.acpi.0.disabled=1
set Hw.physmem=1048576K
boot

The fourth command was entered because the boot program does not correctly
interpret the memory size from the information transferred to it from the
BIOS.  Then a lengthy list of device drivers either installed, or
failed-to-install, scrolled down the face of the monitor, still in
black-and-white.  Then the screen displayed a blue background, and a
colored message appeared saying probing for devices.  Then it displayed a
message to choose a country code.  The display delayed response to keyboard
entries by two minutes or more for each keystroke.  I selected United
States.  Several minutes later, the list box disappeared, and screen
became blank blue.  One-half hour later, another list box displayed which
gave the user choices of the type of install desired.   There was
absolutely no response on the screen to any keyboard entry.  What am I
doing wrong?  Any and all suggestions will be appreciated.  Yours truly,
Lee

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Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem RESOLVED

2005-09-01 Thread Robert Slade
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 17:26, Robert Slade wrote:
 On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 00:21, Vizion wrote:
  On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:31,  the author Robert Slade contributed to 
  the 
  dialogue on-
   Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem: 
  
  On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 21:20, Vizion wrote:
   On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:22,  the author Robert Slade contributed to
   the dialogue on-
  
Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem:
   On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 20:10, Vizion wrote:
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 12:05,  the author Robert Slade contributed
to the dialogue on-
   
 Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem:
Hiya,

I've been working on this beasty on and off for some time. It's a 
Quad
processor 1 Gbyte of memory and 5 scsi drives using the 2p raid
controller setup as 2 raid arrays + 1 spare.

The machine works fine with 5.4 release #0 with the supplied generic
kernel.

The problem(s) I have been having are:

1. When I recompiled the Kernel with SMP support, I get random
 reboots. It also fails to boot sometimes failing at the point after
 waiting for the scsi drives to settle. I get some error codes and
 Fbsd fails to find the boot device.

2. I CVSuped to 5.4 release #2 and recompiled the Kernel with SMP
support. This does to boot at all. It gets as far as the waiting 15s
 for scsi devices to settle, then (appears to) reset the scsi
 controller and immediately tries to access the drives (does not
 wait). I have tried recompiling with scsi_delay set to 3 (30s)
 with no change.

I have checked dmesg and message logs but there is nothing related to
the problem(s) there.

I have gone back to the 5.4 release #0 single processor kernel for 
now
which is a shame as the machine is slow without the multi processor
support.

The only thing out of the ordinary I have noted is a tx underunn --
increasing threshold to 512 bytes  message which appears related to
running kde remotely via vncserver and tinync.

Any ideas, I can send conf files etc if needed.

Thanks

Rob
   
What are your bios setting?
My guess is that you have not made the right setting using the 
siftware
and configuration utilities
david
   
   David,
   
   Thanks. The BIOS setting appear ok - OS type is set as UNIX (Small disk
   geometry) and the machine passes all the diagnostics.
   
   Rob
  
   I cannot remember - but I have sneaking notion that you need to set it as
   linux
  
  Tried that too :-). I think that the problem is that with 5.4 release #2
  it is trying to access that scsi drives immediately then inducing the
  kernel panic for 15s.  Rather than inducing the panic 1st.
  
  Rob
  
  
  Did you follow my suggestion and search the HP resources with freebsd and 
  your 
  model.  I have had the same problem myself I am pretty certain it was fixed 
  by changes using the Proliant Essrntial Foundation Pack.. but my memory may 
  not be accurate.
  david
 
 David,
 
 I did update the system and controller ROMs whne the machine was running
 windows. I have been on the HP site and as far as I can tell I have the
 latest.
 
 Rob

For the record, lucking under SCO Unix is an update to the Raid
Controller firmware which fixes the problem. You do need Dos or Windows
to create the self booting disks. Only disk 1 is needed for the SMART 2P
controller. The update appears to be only listed under SC Unix though.

Rob


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RE: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem

2005-08-31 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:21 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Robert Slade
Subject: Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem


Did you follow my suggestion and search the HP resources with
freebsd and your
model.  I have had the same problem myself I am pretty certain
it was fixed
by changes using the Proliant Essrntial Foundation Pack.. but
my memory may
not be accurate.

Yeah, what a awful design!  You have to load an entire full-blown
Windows install just to update the microcode in the SCSI raid
controller.  I saw they had done this the last time I setup a
Compaq server and nearly barfed.

You can still firmware update the machines' BIOS with a bootable
floppy but that's it.  To get anything else, helo Windows!

At least you get the satisfaction of scratching it off once you've
done the update.

Ted
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RE: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem

2005-08-31 Thread Robert Slade
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 07:01, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vizion
 Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 4:21 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: Robert Slade
 Subject: Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem
 
 
 Did you follow my suggestion and search the HP resources with
 freebsd and your
 model.  I have had the same problem myself I am pretty certain
 it was fixed
 by changes using the Proliant Essrntial Foundation Pack.. but
 my memory may
 not be accurate.
 
 Yeah, what a awful design!  You have to load an entire full-blown
 Windows install just to update the microcode in the SCSI raid
 controller.  I saw they had done this the last time I setup a
 Compaq server and nearly barfed.
 
 You can still firmware update the machines' BIOS with a bootable
 floppy but that's it.  To get anything else, helo Windows!
 
 At least you get the satisfaction of scratching it off once you've
 done the update.
 
 Ted
 --

Thanks Ted  David,

The HP site does not turn up anything about FreeBSD and the Proliant.
However I have found out that the Smart-2 family controllers do have an
update. There is a Linux version of the flash utility so I'll try that
first.

Rob


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Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem

2005-08-31 Thread Robert Slade
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 00:21, Vizion wrote:
 On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:31,  the author Robert Slade contributed to the 
 dialogue on-
  Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem: 
 
 On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 21:20, Vizion wrote:
  On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:22,  the author Robert Slade contributed to
  the dialogue on-
 
   Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem:
  On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 20:10, Vizion wrote:
   On Tuesday 30 August 2005 12:05,  the author Robert Slade contributed
   to the dialogue on-
  
Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem:
   Hiya,
   
   I've been working on this beasty on and off for some time. It's a Quad
   processor 1 Gbyte of memory and 5 scsi drives using the 2p raid
   controller setup as 2 raid arrays + 1 spare.
   
   The machine works fine with 5.4 release #0 with the supplied generic
   kernel.
   
   The problem(s) I have been having are:
   
   1. When I recompiled the Kernel with SMP support, I get random
reboots. It also fails to boot sometimes failing at the point after
waiting for the scsi drives to settle. I get some error codes and
Fbsd fails to find the boot device.
   
   2. I CVSuped to 5.4 release #2 and recompiled the Kernel with SMP
   support. This does to boot at all. It gets as far as the waiting 15s
for scsi devices to settle, then (appears to) reset the scsi
controller and immediately tries to access the drives (does not
wait). I have tried recompiling with scsi_delay set to 3 (30s)
with no change.
   
   I have checked dmesg and message logs but there is nothing related to
   the problem(s) there.
   
   I have gone back to the 5.4 release #0 single processor kernel for now
   which is a shame as the machine is slow without the multi processor
   support.
   
   The only thing out of the ordinary I have noted is a tx underunn --
   increasing threshold to 512 bytes  message which appears related to
   running kde remotely via vncserver and tinync.
   
   Any ideas, I can send conf files etc if needed.
   
   Thanks
   
   Rob
  
   What are your bios setting?
   My guess is that you have not made the right setting using the siftware
   and configuration utilities
   david
  
  David,
  
  Thanks. The BIOS setting appear ok - OS type is set as UNIX (Small disk
  geometry) and the machine passes all the diagnostics.
  
  Rob
 
  I cannot remember - but I have sneaking notion that you need to set it as
  linux
 
 Tried that too :-). I think that the problem is that with 5.4 release #2
 it is trying to access that scsi drives immediately then inducing the
 kernel panic for 15s.  Rather than inducing the panic 1st.
 
 Rob
 
 
 Did you follow my suggestion and search the HP resources with freebsd and 
 your 
 model.  I have had the same problem myself I am pretty certain it was fixed 
 by changes using the Proliant Essrntial Foundation Pack.. but my memory may 
 not be accurate.
 david

David,

I did update the system and controller ROMs whne the machine was running
windows. I have been on the HP site and as far as I can tell I have the
latest.

Rob

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Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem

2005-08-30 Thread Robert Slade
Hiya, 

I've been working on this beasty on and off for some time. It's a Quad
processor 1 Gbyte of memory and 5 scsi drives using the 2p raid
controller setup as 2 raid arrays + 1 spare.

The machine works fine with 5.4 release #0 with the supplied generic
kernel. 

The problem(s) I have been having are:

1. When I recompiled the Kernel with SMP support, I get random reboots.
It also fails to boot sometimes failing at the point after waiting for
the scsi drives to settle. I get some error codes and Fbsd fails to find
the boot device. 

2. I CVSuped to 5.4 release #2 and recompiled the Kernel with SMP
support. This does to boot at all. It gets as far as the waiting 15s for
scsi devices to settle, then (appears to) reset the scsi controller and
immediately tries to access the drives (does not wait). I have tried
recompiling with scsi_delay set to 3 (30s) with no change.

I have checked dmesg and message logs but there is nothing related to
the problem(s) there.

I have gone back to the 5.4 release #0 single processor kernel for now
which is a shame as the machine is slow without the multi processor
support.

The only thing out of the ordinary I have noted is a tx underunn --
increasing threshold to 512 bytes  message which appears related to
running kde remotely via vncserver and tinync.

Any ideas, I can send conf files etc if needed.

Thanks

Rob

  



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Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem

2005-08-30 Thread Vizion
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 12:05,  the author Robert Slade contributed to the 
dialogue on-
 Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem: 

Hiya,

I've been working on this beasty on and off for some time. It's a Quad
processor 1 Gbyte of memory and 5 scsi drives using the 2p raid
controller setup as 2 raid arrays + 1 spare.

The machine works fine with 5.4 release #0 with the supplied generic
kernel.

The problem(s) I have been having are:

1. When I recompiled the Kernel with SMP support, I get random reboots.
It also fails to boot sometimes failing at the point after waiting for
the scsi drives to settle. I get some error codes and Fbsd fails to find
the boot device.

2. I CVSuped to 5.4 release #2 and recompiled the Kernel with SMP
support. This does to boot at all. It gets as far as the waiting 15s for
scsi devices to settle, then (appears to) reset the scsi controller and
immediately tries to access the drives (does not wait). I have tried
recompiling with scsi_delay set to 3 (30s) with no change.

I have checked dmesg and message logs but there is nothing related to
the problem(s) there.

I have gone back to the 5.4 release #0 single processor kernel for now
which is a shame as the machine is slow without the multi processor
support.

The only thing out of the ordinary I have noted is a tx underunn --
increasing threshold to 512 bytes  message which appears related to
running kde remotely via vncserver and tinync.

Any ideas, I can send conf files etc if needed.

Thanks

Rob

What are your bios setting?
My guess is that you have not made the right setting using the siftware and 
configuration utilities
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Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem

2005-08-30 Thread Robert Slade
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 20:10, Vizion wrote:
 On Tuesday 30 August 2005 12:05,  the author Robert Slade contributed to the 
 dialogue on-
  Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem: 
 
 Hiya,
 
 I've been working on this beasty on and off for some time. It's a Quad
 processor 1 Gbyte of memory and 5 scsi drives using the 2p raid
 controller setup as 2 raid arrays + 1 spare.
 
 The machine works fine with 5.4 release #0 with the supplied generic
 kernel.
 
 The problem(s) I have been having are:
 
 1. When I recompiled the Kernel with SMP support, I get random reboots.
 It also fails to boot sometimes failing at the point after waiting for
 the scsi drives to settle. I get some error codes and Fbsd fails to find
 the boot device.
 
 2. I CVSuped to 5.4 release #2 and recompiled the Kernel with SMP
 support. This does to boot at all. It gets as far as the waiting 15s for
 scsi devices to settle, then (appears to) reset the scsi controller and
 immediately tries to access the drives (does not wait). I have tried
 recompiling with scsi_delay set to 3 (30s) with no change.
 
 I have checked dmesg and message logs but there is nothing related to
 the problem(s) there.
 
 I have gone back to the 5.4 release #0 single processor kernel for now
 which is a shame as the machine is slow without the multi processor
 support.
 
 The only thing out of the ordinary I have noted is a tx underunn --
 increasing threshold to 512 bytes  message which appears related to
 running kde remotely via vncserver and tinync.
 
 Any ideas, I can send conf files etc if needed.
 
 Thanks
 
 Rob
 
 What are your bios setting?
 My guess is that you have not made the right setting using the siftware and 
 configuration utilities
 david

David,

Thanks. The BIOS setting appear ok - OS type is set as UNIX (Small disk
geometry) and the machine passes all the diagnostics.

Rob

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Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem

2005-08-30 Thread Robert Slade
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 21:20, Vizion wrote:
 On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:22,  the author Robert Slade contributed to the 
 dialogue on-
  Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem: 
 
 On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 20:10, Vizion wrote:
  On Tuesday 30 August 2005 12:05,  the author Robert Slade contributed to
  the dialogue on-
 
   Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem:
  Hiya,
  
  I've been working on this beasty on and off for some time. It's a Quad
  processor 1 Gbyte of memory and 5 scsi drives using the 2p raid
  controller setup as 2 raid arrays + 1 spare.
  
  The machine works fine with 5.4 release #0 with the supplied generic
  kernel.
  
  The problem(s) I have been having are:
  
  1. When I recompiled the Kernel with SMP support, I get random reboots.
  It also fails to boot sometimes failing at the point after waiting for
  the scsi drives to settle. I get some error codes and Fbsd fails to find
  the boot device.
  
  2. I CVSuped to 5.4 release #2 and recompiled the Kernel with SMP
  support. This does to boot at all. It gets as far as the waiting 15s for
  scsi devices to settle, then (appears to) reset the scsi controller and
  immediately tries to access the drives (does not wait). I have tried
  recompiling with scsi_delay set to 3 (30s) with no change.
  
  I have checked dmesg and message logs but there is nothing related to
  the problem(s) there.
  
  I have gone back to the 5.4 release #0 single processor kernel for now
  which is a shame as the machine is slow without the multi processor
  support.
  
  The only thing out of the ordinary I have noted is a tx underunn --
  increasing threshold to 512 bytes  message which appears related to
  running kde remotely via vncserver and tinync.
  
  Any ideas, I can send conf files etc if needed.
  
  Thanks
  
  Rob
 
  What are your bios setting?
  My guess is that you have not made the right setting using the siftware
  and configuration utilities
  david
 
 David,
 
 Thanks. The BIOS setting appear ok - OS type is set as UNIX (Small disk
 geometry) and the machine passes all the diagnostics.
 
 Rob
 
 I cannot remember - but I have sneaking notion that you need to set it as 
 linux

Tried that too :-). I think that the problem is that with 5.4 release #2
it is trying to access that scsi drives immediately then inducing the
kernel panic for 15s.  Rather than inducing the panic 1st.

Rob 

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Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem

2005-08-30 Thread Vizion
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:31,  the author Robert Slade contributed to the 
dialogue on-
 Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem: 

On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 21:20, Vizion wrote:
 On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:22,  the author Robert Slade contributed to
 the dialogue on-

  Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem:
 On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 20:10, Vizion wrote:
  On Tuesday 30 August 2005 12:05,  the author Robert Slade contributed
  to the dialogue on-
 
   Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem:
  Hiya,
  
  I've been working on this beasty on and off for some time. It's a Quad
  processor 1 Gbyte of memory and 5 scsi drives using the 2p raid
  controller setup as 2 raid arrays + 1 spare.
  
  The machine works fine with 5.4 release #0 with the supplied generic
  kernel.
  
  The problem(s) I have been having are:
  
  1. When I recompiled the Kernel with SMP support, I get random
   reboots. It also fails to boot sometimes failing at the point after
   waiting for the scsi drives to settle. I get some error codes and
   Fbsd fails to find the boot device.
  
  2. I CVSuped to 5.4 release #2 and recompiled the Kernel with SMP
  support. This does to boot at all. It gets as far as the waiting 15s
   for scsi devices to settle, then (appears to) reset the scsi
   controller and immediately tries to access the drives (does not
   wait). I have tried recompiling with scsi_delay set to 3 (30s)
   with no change.
  
  I have checked dmesg and message logs but there is nothing related to
  the problem(s) there.
  
  I have gone back to the 5.4 release #0 single processor kernel for now
  which is a shame as the machine is slow without the multi processor
  support.
  
  The only thing out of the ordinary I have noted is a tx underunn --
  increasing threshold to 512 bytes  message which appears related to
  running kde remotely via vncserver and tinync.
  
  Any ideas, I can send conf files etc if needed.
  
  Thanks
  
  Rob
 
  What are your bios setting?
  My guess is that you have not made the right setting using the siftware
  and configuration utilities
  david
 
 David,
 
 Thanks. The BIOS setting appear ok - OS type is set as UNIX (Small disk
 geometry) and the machine passes all the diagnostics.
 
 Rob

 I cannot remember - but I have sneaking notion that you need to set it as
 linux

Tried that too :-). I think that the problem is that with 5.4 release #2
it is trying to access that scsi drives immediately then inducing the
kernel panic for 15s.  Rather than inducing the panic 1st.

Rob


Did you follow my suggestion and search the HP resources with freebsd and your 
model.  I have had the same problem myself I am pretty certain it was fixed 
by changes using the Proliant Essrntial Foundation Pack.. but my memory may 
not be accurate.
david
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Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem

2005-08-30 Thread Vizion
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 16:21,  the author Vizion contributed to the 
dialogue on-
 Re: Proliant 5000 sever Fbsd 5.4 (re)boot problem: 

On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:31,  the author Robert Slade contributed to the
dialogue on-



Is this any use:
http://ezine.daemonnews.org/23/cpqraid.html
 
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RE: Proliant 5000

2005-02-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:09 PM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: Brad; Lowell Gilbert; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
 Subject: Re: Proliant 5000

 
  4 X 200MHz processors.
  512Mb RAM
  Scsi hardware raid controller.
 
  That may be your problem.

 Depends on the RAID controller.  Both my machines have RAID
 controllers (2DH).  See
 http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-dec2004.html#10: it seems that 5.1
 panicked.  I'm pretty sure I had no trouble with 5.3, though.

  If the system has an EISA raid array card you cannot install FreeBSD
  on it.  There is a bug in the compaq raid driver it won't work on
  eisa.

 I don't think these machines are *that* old.


Greg, yes they are.  Here's a writeup on the 5000:

http://www.winnetmag.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/159/159.html

Brand new these were $60K according to the article.  It's pretty good
example
of hardware depreciation that something that currently sells for $50 on
the used market:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=56106item=5747562
471rd=1

once cost $60K.

Incidentally, if you have a copy of Solaris 2.5.1 x86 around, these still
make nice little servers - if you are willing to spend the 20+ hours or
so needed to install Solaris+patches+gcc+whateveryouwanttorun.

If he has an EISA raid card in there he can replace it with one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=56091item=5747208
198rd=1

which will probably boot FreeBSD just fine.

Brad, incidentally, I understand that the Linux driver for the Compaq
smart array card does speak to the EISA cards, so if you just absolutely
don't want to put any more money into this, you can try Linux on it.

I don't mean to send you away, that auction lists $4 for the raid card
that should work.  But I do understand that there are folks who wouldn't
even spend the $4.

Ted


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Re: Proliant 5000

2005-02-01 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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On Tuesday,  1 February 2005 at 21:54:18 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

 4 X 200MHz processors.
 512Mb RAM
 Scsi hardware raid controller.

 That may be your problem.

 Depends on the RAID controller.  Both my machines have RAID
 controllers (2DH).  See
 http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-dec2004.html#10: it seems that 5.1
 panicked.  I'm pretty sure I had no trouble with 5.3, though.

 If the system has an EISA raid array card you cannot install
 FreeBSD on it.  There is a bug in the compaq raid driver it won't
 work on eisa.

 I don't think these machines are *that* old.

 Greg, yes they are.  Here's a writeup on the 5000:

 http://www.winnetmag.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/159/159.html

Yes, this is about the age I was expecting.  The specs are pretty
close to my 6500.  I didn't realize, that the older RAID cards were
EISA, but it's not clear from the article whether they were shipped
with the 5000.

 If he has an EISA raid card in there he can replace it with one of these:

 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=56091item=5747208198rd=1

 which will probably boot FreeBSD just fine.

Definitely.  This is the 2DH I'm referring to above.

 I don't mean to send you away, that auction lists $4 for the raid
 card that should work.  But I do understand that there are folks who
 wouldn't even spend the $4.

Look at the shipping costs.  That's another $13 before you get
started.

Greg
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RE: Proliant 5000

2005-02-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

 
 http://www.winnetmag.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/159/159.html
 
 Yes, this is about the age I was expecting.  The specs are pretty
 close to my 6500.  I didn't realize, that the older RAID cards were
 EISA, but it's not clear from the article whether they were shipped
 with the 5000. 
 

No it isn't clear - thing is though that most of those servers were
sold by VARS (the sister company of the ISP I work at used to be a
Compaq VAR and now is an HP VAR) and there was no default factory
configuration because the VAR was supposed to analyze the
customer's network and quote the appropriate parts.

Unfortunately however as you might have guessed the PCI cards were
at least a grand more than the EISA cards and so customers being
customers, far too many of these were quoted and built with the
cheaper EISA card.  Many also were upgrade sales of older Compaq 4500's
and they just sold the chassis and cpu's and ram, and moved the
disks and raid card wholesale from one to the other.

 If he has an EISA raid card in there he can replace it with one of
 these: 
 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=56091it
 em=5747208198rd=1 
 

Look at the shipping costs.  That's another $13 before you get
started.

Damn, there goes the pizza money...  :-)

And to think I actually bought a CGI card back in 1985 for $50!!!

Ted
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RE: Proliant 5000

2005-02-01 Thread Brad
-Original Message-
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: February 2, 2005 12:37 AM
To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey
Cc: Brad; Lowell Gilbert; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
Subject: RE: Proliant 5000



Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:

 
 http://www.winnetmag.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/159/159.html
 
 Yes, this is about the age I was expecting.  The specs are pretty 
 close to my 6500.  I didn't realize, that the older RAID cards were 
 EISA, but it's not clear from the article whether they were shipped 
 with the 5000.
 

No it isn't clear - thing is though that most of those servers were sold
by VARS (the sister company of the ISP I work at used to be a Compaq VAR
and now is an HP VAR) and there was no default factory configuration
because the VAR was supposed to analyze the customer's network and quote
the appropriate parts.

Unfortunately however as you might have guessed the PCI cards were at
least a grand more than the EISA cards and so customers being customers,
far too many of these were quoted and built with the cheaper EISA card.
Many also were upgrade sales of older Compaq 4500's and they just sold
the chassis and cpu's and ram, and moved the disks and raid card
wholesale from one to the other.

 If he has an EISA raid card in there he can replace it with one of
 these:
 
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=56091it
 em=5747208198rd=1
 

Look at the shipping costs.  That's another $13 before you get
started.

Damn, there goes the pizza money...  :-)

And to think I actually bought a CGI card back in 1985 for $50!!!

Ted

Hi, sorry for being out of touch for the day (or so...)

The computer has a Smart Array 2DH card. It is in fact PCI based so now
I don't know what to do. First however, I think I will try a different
slot
And see if that does something. Then I do have a different array
controller
And will try that one.

Thanks for the great info and of course, if anyone has an idea, please
give me
An e-mail.

Brad

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Re: Proliant 5000

2005-02-01 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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I'm really puzzled how the quotation levels got the way they were.

On Wednesday,  2 February 2005 at  1:00:20 -0600, Brad wrote:
 On  February 2, 2005 12:37 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:


 http://www.winnetmag.com/Windows/Article/ArticleID/159/159.html

 Yes, this is about the age I was expecting.  The specs are pretty
 close to my 6500.  I didn't realize, that the older RAID cards were
 EISA, but it's not clear from the article whether they were shipped
 with the 5000.


 No it isn't clear - thing is though that most of those servers were sold
 by VARS (the sister company of the ISP I work at used to be a Compaq VAR
 and now is an HP VAR) and there was no default factory configuration
 because the VAR was supposed to analyze the customer's network and quote
 the appropriate parts.

 Unfortunately however as you might have guessed the PCI cards were at
 least a grand more than the EISA cards and so customers being customers,
 far too many of these were quoted and built with the cheaper EISA card.
 Many also were upgrade sales of older Compaq 4500's and they just sold
 the chassis and cpu's and ram, and moved the disks and raid card
 wholesale from one to the other.

 If he has an EISA raid card in there he can replace it with one of
 these:


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=56091item=5747208198rd=1


 Look at the shipping costs.  That's another $13 before you get
 started.

 Damn, there goes the pizza money...  :-)

 Hi, sorry for being out of touch for the day (or so...)

 The computer has a Smart Array 2DH card.

As I mentioned a couple of times, this is the card I'm using.  It's
also the one in the (repeatedly broken) URL above.

 It is in fact PCI based so now I don't know what to do. First
 however, I think I will try a different slot And see if that does
 something. Then I do have a different array controller And will try
 that one.

Do you have a 4.10 CD available?  That's what I used for installation.

Greg
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Re: Proliant 5000

2005-01-31 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi, I have recently acquired a Proliant 800 and a Proliant 5000 server.
 The 800 installed quite cleanly and is currently running FreeBSD 5.3 The
 800 is a dual processor machine. When I try to install FreeBSD 5.3 on
 the 5000 (it's a quad processor machine ) it panic's saying, 
 
 panic: pmtimer_indentify
 
 Has anyone seen this
 before. As near as I can tell it involves the power management of the
 computer. Only there isn't any in the bios. Doing a verbose logging on
 the system I noticed that it has just finished scanning the ISA bus and
 found nothing. Then it panic's. I would appreciate any thoughts that the
 community might have.

Have you tried turning off ACPI in the install?
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Re: Proliant 5000

2005-01-31 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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Gratuitous line breaks removed.

On Sunday, 30 January 2005 at 19:36:32 -0600, Brad wrote:
 Hi, I have recently acquired a Proliant 800 and a Proliant 5000
 server.  The 800 installed quite cleanly and is currently running
 FreeBSD 5.3 The 800 is a dual processor machine. When I try to
 install FreeBSD 5.3 on the 5000 (it's a quad processor machine ) it
 panic's saying,

 panic: pmtimer_indentify

 Has anyone seen this before.

No.  I've installed on a ProLiant 850 (dual processor) and 6500 (quad
processor) with spectacular lack of problems.

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RE: Proliant 5000

2005-01-31 Thread Brad
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Lowell Gilbert
Sent: January 31, 2005 8:13 AM
To: Brad
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Proliant 5000


Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi, I have recently acquired a Proliant 800 and a Proliant 5000 
 server. The 800 installed quite cleanly and is currently running 
 FreeBSD 5.3 The 800 is a dual processor machine. When I try to install

 FreeBSD 5.3 on the 5000 (it's a quad processor machine ) it panic's 
 saying,
 
 panic: pmtimer_indentify
 
 Has anyone seen this
 before. As near as I can tell it involves the power management of the 
 computer. Only there isn't any in the bios. Doing a verbose logging on

 the system I noticed that it has just finished scanning the ISA bus 
 and found nothing. Then it panic's. I would appreciate any thoughts 
 that the community might have.

Have you tried turning off ACPI in the install?

Ok, when I boot the menu has default and then the second choice is to
install with ACPI turned on...

Tried that one and it progresses just a tad further. It reports:

Orm0: ISA Option ROMs at iomem
0xe8000-0xedfff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xc-0xc7fff on isa0
Pmtimer0 on isa0

Then the computer freezes at that point.

What else could I tell you about this machine?

4 X 200MHz processors.
512Mb RAM
Scsi hardware raid controller.
4 drives 2 x 9Gb and 2 X 4 Gb

Safe mode just hung on the orm0: line.

Starting to wonder if I have MB issues.

The 4th menu item is to boot single user mode.

This one hangs just as the default one does.

Other interesting things I just noticed. 
Eisab0: PCI-EISA bridge at device 15.0 on pci0
Eisa0: EISA bus on eisab0
Isa0: ISA bus on eisab0
Pci0: memory, RAM at device 20.0 (no driver attached)

Guess I am back to requesting thoughts again.

Thank you to the people that have responded so far.

Brad

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RE: Proliant 5000

2005-01-31 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brad
 Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 5:30 PM
 To: 'Lowell Gilbert'
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: Proliant 5000
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Lowell Gilbert
 Sent: January 31, 2005 8:13 AM
 To: Brad
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Proliant 5000
 
 
 Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hi, I have recently acquired a Proliant 800 and a Proliant 5000 
  server. The 800 installed quite cleanly and is currently running 
  FreeBSD 5.3 The 800 is a dual processor machine. When I try 
 to install
 
  FreeBSD 5.3 on the 5000 (it's a quad processor machine ) it panic's 
  saying,
  
  panic: pmtimer_indentify
  
  Has anyone seen this
  before. As near as I can tell it involves the power 
 management of the 
  computer. Only there isn't any in the bios. Doing a verbose 
 logging on
 
  the system I noticed that it has just finished scanning the ISA bus 
  and found nothing. Then it panic's. I would appreciate any thoughts 
  that the community might have.
 
 Have you tried turning off ACPI in the install?
 
 Ok, when I boot the menu has default and then the second choice is to
 install with ACPI turned on...
 
 Tried that one and it progresses just a tad further. It reports:
 
 Orm0: ISA Option ROMs at iomem
 0xe8000-0xedfff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xc-0xc7fff on isa0
 Pmtimer0 on isa0
 
 Then the computer freezes at that point.
 
 What else could I tell you about this machine?
 
 4 X 200MHz processors.
 512Mb RAM
 Scsi hardware raid controller.

That may be your problem.  If the system has an EISA raid array card
you cannot install FreeBSD on it.  There is a bug in the compaq
raid driver it won't work on eisa.

Ted
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Re: Proliant 5000

2005-01-31 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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Quote indentation corrected.

Trimmed.

On Monday, 31 January 2005 at 21:16:03 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 On  Monday, January 31, 2005 5:30 PM, Brad wrote:
 On  January 31, 2005 8:13 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Brad [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi, I have recently acquired a Proliant 800 and a Proliant 5000
 server. The 800 installed quite cleanly and is currently running
 FreeBSD 5.3 The 800 is a dual processor machine. When I try to
 install

 FreeBSD 5.3 on the 5000 (it's a quad processor machine ) it
 panic's saying,

 panic: pmtimer_indentify

 Has anyone seen this before. As near as I can tell it involves the
 power management of the computer. Only there isn't any in the
 bios. Doing a verbose logging on the system I noticed that it has
 just finished scanning the ISA bus and found nothing. Then it
 panic's. I would appreciate any thoughts that the community might
 have.

 Have you tried turning off ACPI in the install?

 Ok, when I boot the menu has default and then the second choice is to
 install with ACPI turned on...

 Tried that one and it progresses just a tad further. It reports:

 Orm0: ISA Option ROMs at iomem
 0xe8000-0xedfff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xc-0xc7fff on isa0
 Pmtimer0 on isa0

 Then the computer freezes at that point.

 What else could I tell you about this machine?

 4 X 200MHz processors.
 512Mb RAM
 Scsi hardware raid controller.

 That may be your problem.

Depends on the RAID controller.  Both my machines have RAID
controllers (2DH).  See
http://www.lemis.com/grog/diary-dec2004.html#10: it seems that 5.1
panicked.  I'm pretty sure I had no trouble with 5.3, though.

 If the system has an EISA raid array card you cannot install FreeBSD
 on it.  There is a bug in the compaq raid driver it won't work on
 eisa.

I don't think these machines are *that* old.

Greg
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Proliant 5000

2005-01-30 Thread Brad
Hi, I have recently acquired a Proliant 800 and a Proliant 5000 server.
The 800 installed quite cleanly and is currently running FreeBSD 5.3 The
800 is a dual processor machine. When I try to install FreeBSD 5.3 on
the 5000 (it's a quad processor machine ) it panic's saying, 

panic: pmtimer_indentify

Has anyone seen this
before. As near as I can tell it involves the power management of the
computer. Only there isn't any in the bios. Doing a verbose logging on
the system I noticed that it has just finished scanning the ISA bus and
found nothing. Then it panic's. I would appreciate any thoughts that the
community might have.

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