write dma udma icrc error

2009-04-18 Thread rasz
hi, can anyone tell me what this message is related to?

WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=62939519

drive/hardware failing?
i am seeing a lot of it lately on a particular disk where i have tried a few
different installs and do not always
get this problem. i have seen it disappear after some painstaking before an
install to it, like wiping the whole disk clean before install, checking
geometry is right, but maybe coincidence?
it is a sata300, 7.2 beta1 amd64 and i am thinking there is problem with the
disk, but the error varied a bit with different installs (i.e. whether i see
the error or not)
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WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error

2006-09-03 Thread Tamas (septi) Gal

Yesterday I upgraded my hardware from a Pentium2 400mhz setup (running
freebsd 5.4) to a Sempron 2.8ghz and installed freebsd 6.1 on it (the
32bit version).
There are 4 harddisks attached to the IDE-controllers:

ad0: 6150MB Seagate ST36421A 6.01 at ata0-master UDMA66
ad1: 38166MB Seagate ST340823A 3.39 at ata0-slave UDMA100
ad2: 78167MB Maxtor 6Y080L0 YAR41BW0 at ata1-master UDMA133
ad3: 38166MB Seagate ST340823A 3.39 at ata1-slave UDMA100

ad1 and ad3 are the same and both contain important data.
After the installation of freebsd I noticed a lot of UDMA-errors:

ad1: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63
ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63
ad3: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63

After decreasing the speed of UDMA (on ad1 and ad3)  in the
BIOS-Setup, ad1 worked fine, without any errors, but ad3 still
produces the same error-messages and is not mountable:

(14:51) root (/home/septi) %mount /dev/ad3s1 /test
mount: /dev/ad3s1: Input/output error

Here the dmesg output:

ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=12063
ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=12063
ad3: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=12063
g_vfs_done():ad3s1[READ(offset=6144000, length=4096)]error = 5
ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63
ad3: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=63
ad3: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=63

I also replaced the IDE-cable but it changed nothing...

Does anybody have an idea?

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nForce4 IDE channel UDMA woes

2006-07-12 Thread Neil Short

This is a problem on a home-built computer using an
nVidia nForce4 motherboard.

IDE 1 and 2 each have two devices.

IDE 1 master: a Maxtor hard drive (jumpered to master)
IDE 1 slave: a CDRW (jumpered to slave)
IDE 2 master: CDRW (jumpered to master)
IDE 2 slave: CDRW (jumpered to slave)

So, when I do something intense - like build a new
kernel or buildworld - I start getting the following
in stdout:

snip
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
request) LBA=505006527
ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
error=4ABORTED LBA=505006527
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
request) LBA=505006655
ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
error=4ABORTED LBA=505006655
g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[WRITE(offset=253247242240,
length=131072)]error = 5
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
request) LBA=505006527
ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
error=4ABORTED LBA=505006527
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
request) LBA=505006655
ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
error=4ABORTED LBA=505006655
g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[WRITE(offset=253247242240,
length=131072)]error = 5
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
request) LBA=505006527
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
request) LBA=505006655
ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
error=4ABORTED LBA=505006655
ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
error=4ABORTED LBA=505006527
g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[WRITE(offset=253247242240,
length=131072)]error = 5
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
request) LBA=505006527
ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
error=4ABORTED LBA=505006527
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
request) LBA=505006655
ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
error=4ABORTED LBA=505006655
g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[WRITE(offset=253247242240,
length=131072)]error = 5
snip


Now, interestingly, if I unplug the CDRW that uses IDE
1 slave, everything works fine.

But for my needs, I need three CDRWs.

Questions:

I have noticed a lot of Internet chatter about this
kind of thing happening with similar configurations on
WinXP. Using the generic XP IDE driver seems to fix
it.

Could this be a problem with FreeBSD?

Do you think it would be a dumb idea to try to run
either the hard drive or one of the CDRWs from one of
the available SATAs?



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his works are truth, and his ways are justice; and he is able to bring low 
those who walk in pride.
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Re: nForce4 IDE channel UDMA woes

2006-07-12 Thread Jonathan Horne
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 17:47, Neil Short wrote:
 This is a problem on a home-built computer using an
 nVidia nForce4 motherboard.

 IDE 1 and 2 each have two devices.

 IDE 1 master: a Maxtor hard drive (jumpered to master)
 IDE 1 slave: a CDRW (jumpered to slave)
 IDE 2 master: CDRW (jumpered to master)
 IDE 2 slave: CDRW (jumpered to slave)

 So, when I do something intense - like build a new
 kernel or buildworld - I start getting the following
 in stdout:

 snip
 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
 request) LBA=505006527
 ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=4ABORTED LBA=505006527
 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
 request) LBA=505006655
 ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=4ABORTED LBA=505006655
 g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[WRITE(offset=253247242240,
 length=131072)]error = 5
 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
 request) LBA=505006527
 ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=4ABORTED LBA=505006527
 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
 request) LBA=505006655
 ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=4ABORTED LBA=505006655
 g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[WRITE(offset=253247242240,
 length=131072)]error = 5
 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
 request) LBA=505006527
 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
 request) LBA=505006655
 ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=4ABORTED LBA=505006655
 ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=4ABORTED LBA=505006527
 g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[WRITE(offset=253247242240,
 length=131072)]error = 5
 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
 request) LBA=505006527
 ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=4ABORTED LBA=505006527
 ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA48 UDMA ICRC error (retrying
 request) LBA=505006655
 ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA48 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=4ABORTED LBA=505006655
 g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[WRITE(offset=253247242240,
 length=131072)]error = 5
 snip


 Now, interestingly, if I unplug the CDRW that uses IDE
 1 slave, everything works fine.

 But for my needs, I need three CDRWs.

 Questions:

 I have noticed a lot of Internet chatter about this
 kind of thing happening with similar configurations on
 WinXP. Using the generic XP IDE driver seems to fix
 it.

 Could this be a problem with FreeBSD?

 Do you think it would be a dumb idea to try to run
 either the hard drive or one of the CDRWs from one of
 the available SATAs?



 ==
 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor the King of heaven, for
 all his works are truth, and his ways are justice; and he is able to bring
 low those who walk in pride. Daniel 4:37


if you have access to one of those converter dealies, that you can put an ide 
drive on an sata channel, then i would give that a shot.  my system is on an 
sata drive (FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE) and performance is quite satisfactory.  even 
if it performs with the same speed as any other IDE drive... at least you 
will have seperated your cdroms from your disk's data path.

hth,
jonathan
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WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error

2006-05-29 Thread César Amaya

hello list!

I´m having a trouble with a hard disk, I´m getting this warning:

kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request)  
LBA=38059135


I read that it could be a IDE cable problem, that the cable does not 
support UDMA speed = 66


If it wasn´t the cable where the problem is, how can I set the drive 
UDMA speed to  UDMA66 at boot time to make it permanent?


I have a FreeBSD 6.1 system and ExcelStor j880 hard disk.

Could you help me, please?
Thanks.

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Re: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error

2006-05-29 Thread Ghislain Garçon




hello list!

I´m having a trouble with a hard disk, I´m getting this warning:

kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying  
request)  LBA=38059135


I read that it could be a IDE cable problem, that the cable does  
not support UDMA speed = 66


If it wasn´t the cable where the problem is, how can I set the  
drive UDMA speed to  UDMA66 at boot time to make it permanent?


I have a FreeBSD 6.1 system and ExcelStor j880 hard disk.



Cool i'm not alone!!!


Could you help me, please?


I had this problem during installation from a CDROM. The FAQ says the  
kernel should switch to another mode ( PIO ) in order to configure  
the hard drive ( as NetBSD does for example ... ). Unfortunatly it  
doesn't...


Someone for confirmation?






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WRITE_DMA UDMA CRC error on Nimble v5

2005-10-16 Thread Wesha the Leopard
Dear colleagues,

I would really appreciate some help here. I've tried every option I
was able to think of, to no avail.

My server is built on Nimble v5
(http://www.nimblev5.com/product/specification.htm). This is a
wonderful little box built on VIA C3 Eden 733MHz, quiet and
consuming very little electricity (meaning longer UPS runtimes).
I'm running FreeBSD 5.3 on it, and everything was fine until I
tried to upgrade.

Originally, the box sports 2.5 Fujitsu MHT2030AT hard drive. FreeBSD
reports it as UDMA-100, and it works like a charm. I'm trying to
replace in with Toshiba MK6025GAS 60Gb 2.5 laptop hard drive, and try
to install FreeBSD 5.4 on it. However, no matter how hard I try,
I always run into the same problem:

ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC (retrying request) LBA=63
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC (retrying request) LBA=63
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC (retrying request) LBA=63
ad0: FAILURE - status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84CRC,ABORTED LBA=63

This error repeats many times.

Here's the steps that I've tried to make:

1) Googled that UltraDMA (80-pin) cable should be used to avoid these
errors. This doesn't help -- to my knowledge, there's no 80-pin ribbon
cables for 2.5 hard drives, at least nobody sells any. And after all,
the original 20Gb drive has no problems with the existing cable,
though it's UDMA100 as well.

2) This box is pretty limited in choice of external storage devices I
can use -- basicly, all I can connect to it is USB stuff. I googled
a suggestion that that error might show up on VIA chipsets when
installing from USB CD-ROM. Tried installing from USB floppy and over
the network -- same thing.

3) Upgraded BIOS to the latest one. No effect.

4) Tried different Nimble box (I've got 2). Same thing.

5) Thought it might be the Toshiba drive. Tried with 2.5 100Gb
Seagate. Same thing.

6) Tried 6.0RC1. Same thing. Tried 5.3 (the one that works OK on the
original 20Gb drive), same thing.

7) Put the 60Gb drive into a USB enclosure and installed onto it.
Worked fine, but when I get the drive out of the enclosure and into the
box, the error happens again.

Here's the table of what I tried:

---
Freebsd Installation TargetTargetResult
version medium   drive interface

5.3 USB-FDD  Fujitsu 20GB  IDE   OK

5.3 USB-CD   ---   ---   Install disk boot 
 stalls -- image
 corrupt

5.4 USB-FDD  Toshiba 60GB  IDE   ICRC error

5.4 USB-CD   Toshiba 60GB  IDE   ICRC error

5.4 USB-CD   Seagate 100GB IDE   ICRC error

6.0RC1  USB-FDD  Toshiba 60GB  IDE   ICRC error

5.4 USB-FDD  Toshiba 60GB  USB   OK

5.4 USB-CD   Toshiba 60GB  USB   OK

5.4 any  Toshiba 60GB  USB-IDE  OK, then ICRC 
 error on boot
---

Any sugggestions?
 
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Re: What do these warning messages mean (READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error)?

2005-09-19 Thread Lowell Gilbert
bob self [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I rearanged my hard drives / dvd burner and am now seeing these
 messages. The system SEEMS to run ok though.
 
 ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
 ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
 ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=119267359
 g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[READ(offset=44958728192, length=45056)]error = 5
 vnode_pager_getpages: I/O read error
 vm_fault: pager read error, pid 808 (firefox-bin)
 ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
 ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
 ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267519

If it's the same blocks all the time, you may have coincidentally
developed a hard disk problem at the same time.  Much more likely,
though, you've got a problem with the ATA cable for that drive.  Maybe
it has gotten pinched or bent too sharply?
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Re: What do these warning messages mean (READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error)?

2005-09-19 Thread bob self

Lowell Gilbert wrote:


bob self [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 


I rearanged my hard drives / dvd burner and am now seeing these
messages. The system SEEMS to run ok though.

ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=119267359
g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[READ(offset=44958728192, length=45056)]error = 5
vnode_pager_getpages: I/O read error
vm_fault: pager read error, pid 808 (firefox-bin)
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267519
   



If it's the same blocks all the time, you may have coincidentally
developed a hard disk problem at the same time.  Much more likely,
though, you've got a problem with the ATA cable for that drive.  Maybe
it has gotten pinched or bent too sharply?


 


I re-seated the cables yet again and havent seen the problem since then.
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What do these warning messages mean (READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error)?

2005-09-18 Thread bob self


I rearanged my hard drives / dvd burner and am now seeing these 
messages. The system SEEMS to run ok though.


ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR 
error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=119267359

g_vfs_done():ad0s1f[READ(offset=44958728192, length=45056)]error = 5
vnode_pager_getpages: I/O read error
vm_fault: pager read error, pid 808 (firefox-bin)
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267359
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=119267519

thanks,
Bob

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Re: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRCerror (retrying request)

2005-08-16 Thread Mark Kane
OK. Now I really am at a loss for words. I experienced my first FAILURE 
message this morning when trying to fdisk my last newly formatted 160GB 
drive. The second fdisk would start to write, my screen would fill with 
WRITE_DMA WARNINGS and FAILURES. That was with another drive on the same 
controller. I removed that drive, and everything works fine.


I just got another brand new 200GB drive within the last hour. Even it 
on the same channel as anything else causes errors upon mount, and 
FAILUREs as well. Then I cannot shut down properly because the errors 
continue even to the shutdown sequence. Then on the next boot I get 
messages about things not being properly dismounted. (First time 
happening).


I don't know if it's hardware or FreeBSD anymore. I read this thread on 
freebsd-stable earlier today, and then all of a sudden I start getting 
all the failures that I never got before:


http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-August/017636.html

So please, anybody...Is this a controller incompatibility with my other 
hardware (drives) or a FreeBSD problem?


Up until now I was 98% certain it was hardware in some way, but now I'm 
not sure. I have the opportunity to get an Asus board to test, but I'm 
not going to shell out money for something if it isn't even a hardware 
problem.


Thanks very much.

-Mark

Mark Kane wrote:
Well, it's a week later and I've been trying some things. I don't want 
to get in to too much complicated detail, but I've now got the following 
disk setup:


Primary Master - 200GB 7200RPM
Secondary Master - TDK VeloCD CD Burner
Secondary Slave - Sony DRU500A
RAID0 Master - 160GB 7200RPM
RAID0 Slave - 160GB 7200RPM

I don't have the two 80GB's or 60GB's in there now since I was just 
testing with this setup. I thought keeping the OS drive on primary 
master and the rest on RAID would do the trick, but it didn't.


Bottom line is, I'm still getting the same errors with several different 
configurations of the drives. Now in the last couple of days I'm also 
getting READ DMA errors when reading from one of the 160GB drives as 
well. Before it was all just WRITE, but now some READs are thrown in 
there as well.


I should note that I have never seen a FAILURE message, only the 
WARNING messages. Also, if I downgrade the speed to UDMA100, it seems 
to work just fine as it does in UDMA66 mode.


I'm wondering if anyone else has any ideas? Personally I'm out, and if 
nobody else knows (including Maxtor, Giga-Byte, and my parts 
distributor) then I'm going to have to see what I can do to get another 
brand/model motherboard. I'm to the point where I think it's something 
with their controller and how it handles Maxtor drives. Now that I 
remember, I used to see similar results when running Windows on the 
previous board before sending it in (same model). However Windows would 
automatically take it down to 100 so I didn't see any errors.


Anyone think its something other than the board and it's controllers, or 
is that a pretty good estimate?


Thanks in advance.

-Mark

Mark Kane wrote:

Okay well I tried another test. I left the 160GB on the primary IDE 
channel, took out both optical drives, and put the 60GB on the 
secondary IDE channel by itself.


I copied the data over again. No errors this time. I checksummed the 
data, and everything is OK.


Chuck Swiger wrote:

Without another known-working mainboard to test, you can't really be 
sure, but it's a hardware problem of some sort, perhaps due to poor 
cabling, perhaps a marginal or failing mainboard.




The cables are new, and the other drive on the same channel works in 
UDMA133 with no errors.


The motherboard is new as well, fresh from the factory (unless it's 
defective).


If you use BIOS or atacontrol to slow down to UDMA 33 speeds, does 
everything work OK?




I tried slowing it down to UDMA66 speeds via atacontrol, and the 
errors went away on the 80GB. I haven't tried the 60GB drive yet.


-Mark
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Re: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRCerror (retrying request)

2005-08-15 Thread Mark Kane
Well, it's a week later and I've been trying some things. I don't want 
to get in to too much complicated detail, but I've now got the following 
disk setup:


Primary Master - 200GB 7200RPM
Secondary Master - TDK VeloCD CD Burner
Secondary Slave - Sony DRU500A
RAID0 Master - 160GB 7200RPM
RAID0 Slave - 160GB 7200RPM

I don't have the two 80GB's or 60GB's in there now since I was just 
testing with this setup. I thought keeping the OS drive on primary 
master and the rest on RAID would do the trick, but it didn't.


Bottom line is, I'm still getting the same errors with several different 
configurations of the drives. Now in the last couple of days I'm also 
getting READ DMA errors when reading from one of the 160GB drives as 
well. Before it was all just WRITE, but now some READs are thrown in 
there as well.


I should note that I have never seen a FAILURE message, only the 
WARNING messages. Also, if I downgrade the speed to UDMA100, it seems 
to work just fine as it does in UDMA66 mode.


I'm wondering if anyone else has any ideas? Personally I'm out, and if 
nobody else knows (including Maxtor, Giga-Byte, and my parts 
distributor) then I'm going to have to see what I can do to get another 
brand/model motherboard. I'm to the point where I think it's something 
with their controller and how it handles Maxtor drives. Now that I 
remember, I used to see similar results when running Windows on the 
previous board before sending it in (same model). However Windows would 
automatically take it down to 100 so I didn't see any errors.


Anyone think its something other than the board and it's controllers, or 
is that a pretty good estimate?


Thanks in advance.

-Mark

Mark Kane wrote:
Okay well I tried another test. I left the 160GB on the primary IDE 
channel, took out both optical drives, and put the 60GB on the secondary 
IDE channel by itself.


I copied the data over again. No errors this time. I checksummed the 
data, and everything is OK.


Chuck Swiger wrote:

Without another known-working mainboard to test, you can't really be 
sure, but it's a hardware problem of some sort, perhaps due to poor 
cabling, perhaps a marginal or failing mainboard.



The cables are new, and the other drive on the same channel works in 
UDMA133 with no errors.


The motherboard is new as well, fresh from the factory (unless it's 
defective).


If you use BIOS or atacontrol to slow down to UDMA 33 speeds, does 
everything work OK?



I tried slowing it down to UDMA66 speeds via atacontrol, and the errors 
went away on the 80GB. I haven't tried the 60GB drive yet.


-Mark
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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-11 Thread Igor Robul

Joel Rees wrote:

I have two which reliably fail if you put TWO disks on them in a  
gmirror

config within minutes of starting a make buildworld.



Pardon the interruption, but is this two drives on one channel?


Two drives can not be on one channel on SATA controller.
Also try Sii3112 Windows trouble on any search site  and you'll find 
many links to problem reports.
SII3112 IS NOT Server (even small-server) chipset. It does not work well 
with semi-heavy load.
Of course, you can install and use FreeBSD, Linux, Windows on it, just 
dont put load on it with 2 disks.

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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-11 Thread Mike Jakubik
On Wed, August 10, 2005 6:37 am, Dmitry Mityugov said:

 There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other models,
 that are supposed to work 24/7.

Right, i have a dead 250GB Maxline Plus II drive on my desk, only after
about 1.5 years. At least its still on warranty.


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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-11 Thread Unix
It's sad isn't it, Mike..I don't know what the hd manufacturers are 
doing to the HD drives..ok, the systems get faster, there's usually bad 
cooling unless you build your own system...but even if you get enough 
cooling that won't change a thing some hds are prone to die an early 
death such as the Maxtors..I used to love Maxtor and hated Seagate now 
it's the other way around but my #1 HD still is Western Digital...I have 
an old Maxtor drive here 6 gb that's still running perfectly, just like 
3 40gb Seagate Barracuda and Western Digital Caviar...I had a 120gb 
Hitachi that died after 1 yr of use...



Mike Jakubik wrote:


On Wed, August 10, 2005 6:37 am, Dmitry Mityugov said:

 


There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other models,
that are supposed to work 24/7.
   



Right, i have a dead 250GB Maxline Plus II drive on my desk, only after
about 1.5 years. At least its still on warranty.



 



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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-11 Thread O. Hartmann

Mike Jakubik wrote:

On Wed, August 10, 2005 6:37 am, Dmitry Mityugov said:



There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other models,
that are supposed to work 24/7.



Right, i have a dead 250GB Maxline Plus II drive on my desk, only after
about 1.5 years. At least its still on warranty.


On the other hand: In the department for physics of the athmosphere, 
where I built six years ago a server for meteorological data, a RAID-5 
with 4 older IBM U160 SCSI discs still works - 24/7. Never had a problem!

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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-11 Thread Unix

O. Hartmann wrote:


Mike Jakubik wrote:


On Wed, August 10, 2005 6:37 am, Dmitry Mityugov said:



There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other models,
that are supposed to work 24/7.




Right, i have a dead 250GB Maxline Plus II drive on my desk, only after
about 1.5 years. At least its still on warranty.



On the other hand: In the department for physics of the athmosphere, 
where I built six years ago a server for meteorological data, a RAID-5 
with 4 older IBM U160 SCSI discs still works - 24/7. Never had a problem!


I still own old 1-2 GB old SCSI disks and these are still working, I 
also had an old 500mb SCSI disk that was in an old Mac that also worked 
but I trashed it since it was that old and no longer of use...

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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-11 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Mittwoch, 10. August 2005 19:48 CEST schrieb Unix:
 O. Hartmann wrote:
  Mike Jakubik wrote:
  On Wed, August 10, 2005 6:37 am, Dmitry Mityugov said:
  There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other
  models, that are supposed to work 24/7.
 
  Right, i have a dead 250GB Maxline Plus II drive on my desk, only
  after about 1.5 years. At least its still on warranty.
 
  On the other hand: In the department for physics of the athmosphere,
  where I built six years ago a server for meteorological data, a RAID-5
  with 4 older IBM U160 SCSI discs still works - 24/7. Never had a
  problem!

 I still own old 1-2 GB old SCSI disks and these are still working, I
 also had an old 500mb SCSI disk that was in an old Mac that also worked
 but I trashed it since it was that old and no longer of use...

I have an old 700 MB WD IDE drive that still works fine and has about 6 
years 24/7 survived. And I also had a 2000$ 73G SCSI IBM drive that lasted 
for about 5 monthas and was that damadged that Convar sent it back without 
one byte recovered! And I don't want to remember the 80GB WD drive that 
lasted for 2 months..
Please, don't discuss about SCSI/ATA reliability, there are bad 
designed/produced drives and there are good ones. You can't tell before, 
only experience counts.
I can say only good things about Seagates Barracuda 7200.8 drives for 
example. Some dozends are running for two years without _any_ single drive 
failed. Also the Samsung (p)ATA drives are still running without any 
single failure. And WDs once were perfect drices, but they also produced 
crap. So you can't even be sure by vendor!

-Harry

P.S.: I'm planning to bring up a FreeBSD site which reflects hardware 
compatibility experiences as well as long term experiences. I'll be back 
if I have more...


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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-10 Thread O. Hartmann

Chuck Swiger wrote:


O. Hartmann wrote:
[ ... ]

One of  my SATA disks, the SAMSUNG SP2004C seems to show errors 
during operation (and also showd under 5.4-RELEASE-p3).

Sometimes I get this error:
ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599
while the machine still keeps working.
Other days the box crashes completely.

Is this a operating system bug or is this message an evidence of 
defective hardware?


You can also run a dd if=/dev/ad10 of=/dev/null bs=8192 to do a full 
read test under FreeBSD, and see how many CRC errors show up.



I did so and I ran into a crash of the system ...

I changed the cabling, did it again and until now nothing happend ... 
hope it was only a cabling issue. The first time I use ATA/SATA and now 
these experiences ... When is SCSI back for desktops?

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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-10 Thread Joel Rees


On 平成 17/08/10, at 7:36, O. Hartmann wrote:


[...] When is SCSI back for desktops?


I vote for that.

In my opinion, ATA is primarily for home media systems, if that.

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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-10 Thread Unix

Joel Rees wrote:



On 平成 17/08/10, at 7:36, O. Hartmann wrote:


[...] When is SCSI back for desktops?



I vote for that.

In my opinion, ATA is primarily for home media systems, if that.

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I thought the WD Raptors were supposed to replace the SCSI for that 
purpose. I used to run one in a Powermac and performance wise it behaved 
very well, unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test the 30 or 70 
GB WD Raptor SATA in FreeBSD..S/ATA drives should never be used for 24/7 
or server use anyway, they die after a while, in my case, two 80gb 
seagate drives after 1.5 yrs with proper cooling...thing is that SCSI 
drives are not affordable to the regular home server user...if they 
were, I bet more people would use them so that's why the current 
alternatives are ATA and SATA and SATA Raptors.

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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-10 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 8/10/05, Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 I thought the WD Raptors were supposed to replace the SCSI for that
 purpose. I used to run one in a Powermac and performance wise it behaved
 very well, unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test the 30 or 70
 GB WD Raptor SATA in FreeBSD..S/ATA drives should never be used for 24/7
 or server use anyway
...

There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other models,
that are supposed to work 24/7.

-- 
Dmitry Mityugov, St. Petersburg, Russia
I ignore all messages with confidentiality statements

We live less by imagination than despite it - Rockwell Kent, N by E
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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-10 Thread Unix

Dmitry Mityugov wrote:


On 8/10/05, Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 


I thought the WD Raptors were supposed to replace the SCSI for that
purpose. I used to run one in a Powermac and performance wise it behaved
very well, unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test the 30 or 70
GB WD Raptor SATA in FreeBSD..S/ATA drives should never be used for 24/7
or server use anyway
   


...

There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other models,
that are supposed to work 24/7.

 

Yes, but I don't like Maxtor drives, the ones I've used always failed 
after a year or less than a year...

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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-10 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 8/10/05, Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dmitry Mityugov wrote:
 
 On 8/10/05, Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
 
 
 I thought the WD Raptors were supposed to replace the SCSI for that
 purpose. I used to run one in a Powermac and performance wise it behaved
 very well, unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test the 30 or 70
 GB WD Raptor SATA in FreeBSD..S/ATA drives should never be used for 24/7
 or server use anyway
 
 
 ...
 
 There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other models,
 that are supposed to work 24/7.
 
 
 
 Yes, but I don't like Maxtor drives, the ones I've used always failed
 after a year or less than a year...

Western Digital produces similar drives as well - from
http://store.westerndigital.com/product.asp?sku=2700729: ...24x7 100%
duty cycle–the highest available reliability rating on high capacity
drives...

-- 
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I ignore all messages with confidentiality statements

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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-10 Thread Unix

Dmitry Mityugov wrote:


On 8/10/05, Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Dmitry Mityugov wrote:

   


On 8/10/05, Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...


 


I thought the WD Raptors were supposed to replace the SCSI for that
purpose. I used to run one in a Powermac and performance wise it behaved
very well, unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test the 30 or 70
GB WD Raptor SATA in FreeBSD..S/ATA drives should never be used for 24/7
or server use anyway


   


...

There are Maxtor MaXLine II and III, and perhaps several other models,
that are supposed to work 24/7.



 


Yes, but I don't like Maxtor drives, the ones I've used always failed
after a year or less than a year...
   



Western Digital produces similar drives as well - from
http://store.westerndigital.com/product.asp?sku=2700729: ...24x7 100%
duty cycle–the highest available reliability rating on high capacity
drives...

 


thanks, I need to get some new drives anyway...and WD was on my list...
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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request)LBA=11441599

2005-08-10 Thread Mathijs Brands
On 8/10/05, Unix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I thought the WD Raptors were supposed to replace the SCSI for that
purpose. I used to run one in a Powermac and performance wise it behaved
very well, unfortunately I haven't had the chance to test the 30 or 70
GB WD Raptor SATA in FreeBSD..S/ATA drives should never be used for 24/7
or server use anyway

I have a FreeBSD 6.0-BETA2 machine that's using a WD Raptor 36 GB using
the on-board controller (VIA 8237) of the Asus A7V880 motherboard and it
works perfectly. The most taxing thing it runs is the occasional
buildworld or (re)build of KDE3 though...

Cheers,

Mathijs
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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-09 Thread O. Hartmann

Mike Tancsa wrote:

At 08:25 PM 08/08/2005, O. Hartmann wrote:


Hello.

My box is a FreeBSD 6.0-BETA2 driven ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe based AMD64 
boxed (see dmesg).
One of  my SATA disks, the SAMSUNG SP2004C seems to show errors during 
operation (and also showd under 5.4-RELEASE-p3).

Sometimes I get this error:
ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599
while the machine still keeps working.
Other days the box crashes completely.

Is this a operating system bug or is this message an evidence of 
defective hardware?



You can probably confirm a hardware issue with the smartmon tools.  
(/usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools).


It was quite handy the other day for us to narrow down a problem between 
a drive tray and the actual drive.  We started to see


Aug  3 02:02:49 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 
retries left) LBA=391423
Aug  3 02:03:00 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 
retries left) LBA=2304319
Aug  3 02:03:10 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 
retries left) LBA=2312927
Aug  3 02:03:17 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 
retries left) LBA=2308639
Aug  3 02:03:26 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 
retries left) LBA=2309855
Aug  3 02:03:37 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 
retries left) LBA=2348359
Aug  4 12:12:37 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 
retries left) LBA=1528639
Aug  4 12:13:04 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 
retries left) LBA=1530031
Aug  4 12:13:04 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 
retry left) LBA=1528639

Aug  4 12:13:04 verify1 kernel: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out
Aug  4 12:13:04 verify1 kernel: spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure: 
(error=5) bp 0xd630b4fc vp 0xc2640d68


Yet when we read the actual error info off the drive via smartctl -a 
ad0, it was clean.  So it pointed to the drive tray which we swapped and 
all was well.  In other situations however, the smart info will often 
tell you if the drive is starting to fail.  Its not 100% reliable, but 
since we started using it, it generally gave us some sort of heads up as 
to whether or not a drive is in trouble.



---Mike


Dear Mike.
Thanks a lot for this info.
I will use this tool and try to report what I found out.

I also use trays for my drives (like I did with SCSI and SCA2 on our 
servers at the lab). Maybe this could be an issue.


Oliver
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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-09 Thread Chuck Swiger

O. Hartmann wrote:
[ ... ]
One of  my SATA disks, the SAMSUNG SP2004C seems to show errors during 
operation (and also showd under 5.4-RELEASE-p3).

Sometimes I get this error:
ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599
while the machine still keeps working.
Other days the box crashes completely.

Is this a operating system bug or is this message an evidence of 
defective hardware?


Back up any data you care about now.  Use the smartmontools port or hunt down a 
utility from Samsung which'll do a surface test (read only, nondestructive).


You can also run a dd if=/dev/ad10 of=/dev/null bs=8192 to do a full read 
test under FreeBSD, and see how many CRC errors show up.


--
-Chuck

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Re: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRCerror (retrying request)

2005-08-08 Thread Mark Kane

Wesley Will wrote:
I can try to pull the data off one of my other drives, maybe the 60GB, 
then format that and try to dump backjust to see if that one copies 
back OK with no DMA errors.



Very good idea.  This is an excellent plan, especially if you already have
the hardware.


Okay, well I finally got a 60GB drive copied to the 160GB, and am now 
copying the data back after I formatted it and created partitions in UFS.


I didn't notice any DMA errors when I was starting like before. When I 
did the 80GB drive before, the screen was full of them.


However, I typed dmesg after 10 minutes or so of copying, and saw this:

ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=93353919
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=79306399
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=74453535
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=85548799
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=4249471
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=10253311
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=61090751
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=61585151
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=107013535
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=87075327
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=98752223
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=52787103
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=53049919
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=58052959
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=26957151

Note that this is a clean boot, so it's not the errors from before.

It just finished, but while it was copying, the errors would increase by 
one or two every few minutesmeaning the errors are still occurring, 
just not as many or as frequent. It's done copying the 39GB of data now, 
and ended with 18 errors in total.


To Gary:

My drives are like this

PRIMARY IDE:
Master - 160GB
Slave - 60GB

SECONDARY IDE:
Master: TDK VeloCD CD Burner
Slave: Sony DRU500A DVD Burner

I never put optical drives on the same channel as hard drives.

I was going to give Maxtor a call on the 80GB when I thought the 60GB 
was fine, but that was before I found the errors on the 60GB as well.


Could something be bad on the board, or is this a FreeBSD problem, or 
other hardware?


Thanks again for all your replies.

-Mark
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Re: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRCerror (retrying request)

2005-08-08 Thread Chuck Swiger

Mark Kane wrote:
[ ... ]

My drives are like this

PRIMARY IDE:
Master - 160GB
Slave - 60GB

SECONDARY IDE:
Master: TDK VeloCD CD Burner
Slave: Sony DRU500A DVD Burner

I never put optical drives on the same channel as hard drives.

I was going to give Maxtor a call on the 80GB when I thought the 60GB 
was fine, but that was before I found the errors on the 60GB as well.


Could something be bad on the board, or is this a FreeBSD problem, or 
other hardware?


Without another known-working mainboard to test, you can't really be sure, but 
it's a hardware problem of some sort, perhaps due to poor cabling, perhaps a 
marginal or failing mainboard.


If you use BIOS or atacontrol to slow down to UDMA 33 speeds, does everything 
work OK?


--
-Chuck

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Re: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRCerror (retrying request)

2005-08-08 Thread Mark Kane
Okay well I tried another test. I left the 160GB on the primary IDE 
channel, took out both optical drives, and put the 60GB on the secondary 
IDE channel by itself.


I copied the data over again. No errors this time. I checksummed the 
data, and everything is OK.


Chuck Swiger wrote:
Without another known-working mainboard to test, you can't really be 
sure, but it's a hardware problem of some sort, perhaps due to poor 
cabling, perhaps a marginal or failing mainboard.


The cables are new, and the other drive on the same channel works in 
UDMA133 with no errors.


The motherboard is new as well, fresh from the factory (unless it's 
defective).


If you use BIOS or atacontrol to slow down to UDMA 33 speeds, does 
everything work OK?


I tried slowing it down to UDMA66 speeds via atacontrol, and the errors 
went away on the 80GB. I haven't tried the 60GB drive yet.


-Mark
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ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-08 Thread O. Hartmann

Hello.

My box is a FreeBSD 6.0-BETA2 driven ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe based AMD64 
boxed (see dmesg).
One of  my SATA disks, the SAMSUNG SP2004C seems to show errors during 
operation (and also showd under 5.4-RELEASE-p3).

Sometimes I get this error:
ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599
while the machine still keeps working.
Other days the box crashes completely.

Is this a operating system bug or is this message an evidence of 
defective hardware?


By the way, DMA support is enabled:
hw.ata.ata_dma: 1
hw.ata.atapi_dma: 1


Thanks in advance,\
Oliver
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Re: ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599

2005-08-08 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 08:25 PM 08/08/2005, O. Hartmann wrote:

Hello.

My box is a FreeBSD 6.0-BETA2 driven ASUS A8N-SLI Deluxe based AMD64 boxed 
(see dmesg).
One of  my SATA disks, the SAMSUNG SP2004C seems to show errors during 
operation (and also showd under 5.4-RELEASE-p3).

Sometimes I get this error:
ad10: WARNING - READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=11441599
while the machine still keeps working.
Other days the box crashes completely.

Is this a operating system bug or is this message an evidence of defective 
hardware?


You can probably confirm a hardware issue with the smartmon 
tools.  (/usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools).


It was quite handy the other day for us to narrow down a problem between a 
drive tray and the actual drive.  We started to see


Aug  3 02:02:49 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries 
left) LBA=391423
Aug  3 02:03:00 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries 
left) LBA=2304319
Aug  3 02:03:10 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries 
left) LBA=2312927
Aug  3 02:03:17 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries 
left) LBA=2308639
Aug  3 02:03:26 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries 
left) LBA=2309855
Aug  3 02:03:37 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries 
left) LBA=2348359
Aug  4 12:12:37 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries 
left) LBA=1528639
Aug  4 12:13:04 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries 
left) LBA=1530031
Aug  4 12:13:04 verify1 kernel: ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (1 retry 
left) LBA=1528639

Aug  4 12:13:04 verify1 kernel: ad0: FAILURE - READ_DMA timed out
Aug  4 12:13:04 verify1 kernel: spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure: 
(error=5) bp 0xd630b4fc vp 0xc2640d68


Yet when we read the actual error info off the drive via smartctl -a ad0, 
it was clean.  So it pointed to the drive tray which we swapped and all was 
well.  In other situations however, the smart info will often tell you if 
the drive is starting to fail.  Its not 100% reliable, but since we started 
using it, it generally gave us some sort of heads up as to whether or not a 
drive is in trouble.



---Mike 


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Re: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRCerror (retrying request)

2005-08-07 Thread Gary W. Swearingen
Mark Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This is a brand new motherboard. Giga-Byte GA-K8NS Pro. FreeBSD
 5.4-RELEASE (amd64).

 I was also doing some searching around and found a list post about
 FreeBSD 5 and DMA write problems:

I've got a GA-K8NSC-939 running 5.4-R (i386) with two 80GB using
UDMA100 that I've run pretty hard occasionally with dump/restore, diff
-r kind of operations, with no problems.  I ran 5.4-R (amd64) lightly
for a few days without noticing disk problems.

You said one of your disks was a slave. I've read rumors that that's
a bad thing if its master is a CDROM, but I'd think it should just
run slower than it's capable of.
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Re: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRCerror (retrying request)

2005-08-07 Thread fci
I had a disk that was giving the same errors so at the time I just
disabled DMA (in loader.conf, hw.ata.ata_dma=0) but I still wanted
to fix it..
so yesterday..
the drive was set as primary (ad2) but I switched it to slave (ad3). 
it seems fine now.

clayton


On 8/7/05, Gary W. Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mark Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  This is a brand new motherboard. Giga-Byte GA-K8NS Pro. FreeBSD
  5.4-RELEASE (amd64).
 
  I was also doing some searching around and found a list post about
  FreeBSD 5 and DMA write problems:
 
 I've got a GA-K8NSC-939 running 5.4-R (i386) with two 80GB using
 UDMA100 that I've run pretty hard occasionally with dump/restore, diff
 -r kind of operations, with no problems.  I ran 5.4-R (amd64) lightly
 for a few days without noticing disk problems.
 
 You said one of your disks was a slave. I've read rumors that that's
 a bad thing if its master is a CDROM, but I'd think it should just
 run slower than it's capable of.
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After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request)

2005-08-06 Thread Mark Kane
Hi everyone. I have searched the lists and Google about this, but none 
of the things I find seem to be my exact problem.


I have an 80GB Maxtor IDE hard drive that was in NTFS yesterday. Last 
night, I copied all 75GB of data off that drive to another drive in the 
system. It took a while, but didn't give any errors.


Today, I go to use sysinstall to fdisk and disklabel the drive to make 
it UFS for use with FreeBSD. That goes OK and it's now mounted fine. I 
go to copy the data back from the backups I made last night, and 
immediately I get tons of warnings like this:


ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=3205439
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=3206591
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=3208767
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=3210047
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=3214655
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=3215167
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=4163583
ad1: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=4164479

Most of the things I see from searching online point to faulty IDE 
cables, but I swapped the cables a month or so ago. Also, the drive that 
I copied all this data to last night (a 160GB Maxtor) is on the same IDE 
cable as this one with no errors.


I have 3 more drives to backup and convert from NTFS to UFS after 
this, so if anyone has any ideas to help me get on my way, that would be 
excellent.


ad1: 76344MB MAXTOR 6L080J4/A93.0500 [155112/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA133

Thanks very much in advance!

-Mark

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Re: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request)

2005-08-06 Thread Wesley Will
ad1: 76344MB MAXTOR 6L080J4/A93.0500 [155112/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA133

Do the errors go away if you switch the disk (in BIOS, and what are the
BIOS settings for this drive right now?) to PIO mode?

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Re[2]: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request)

2005-08-06 Thread Daniel Gerzo
Hello Wesley,

Saturday, August 6, 2005, 8:51:19 PM, you typed:

ad1: 76344MB MAXTOR 6L080J4/A93.0500 [155112/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA133

 Do the errors go away if you switch the disk (in BIOS, and what are the
 BIOS settings for this drive right now?) to PIO mode?

or try to decrease it's speed with atacontrol to, let's say, UDMA66.

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Re: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request)

2005-08-06 Thread Mark Kane

Daniel Gerzo wrote:

Hello Wesley,

Saturday, August 6, 2005, 8:51:19 PM, you typed:



ad1: 76344MB MAXTOR 6L080J4/A93.0500 [155112/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA133




Do the errors go away if you switch the disk (in BIOS, and what are the
BIOS settings for this drive right now?) to PIO mode?



or try to decrease it's speed with atacontrol to, let's say, UDMA66.



Thanks for the replies.

After decreasing to UDMA66, the errors went away (at least from what I 
saw). I didn't let it run all the way through obviously, but when it was 
in UDMA133 mode the errors came on the second I started.


I haven't tried PIO yet since UDMA66 worked. Wesley, I'm not sure what 
info you wanted from the BIOS. It's the primary IDE channel slave (the 
80GB).


What could this mean?

-Mark
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Re: After Partitioning a Drive: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRCerror (retrying request)

2005-08-06 Thread Mark Kane

Wesley Will wrote:

It almost assuredly means that the drive electronics are failing.  The mag
bubble is likely still intact but the controller isn't capable of keeping
up with that data rate any longer.  It could (easily) be an overheating
issue causing the degradation of performance.  These drives and every
Maxtor I've ever had the bad luck to run across ran as hot as a
firecracker.  It could also be a cable issue, but it isn't the most likely
of causes.

I'd not count on that drive under any circumstances for any data of
importance.


I was thinking of drive failure earlier as well, so I started to run the 
PowerMax utility. The quick 90 second test came up Passed. The 
advanced test just got done running, and it passed that as well.


This drive has been in a 5 1/4 hard drive cooler, and to the touch 
after operation it's not very warm at all compared to Maxtor drives that 
I run without coolers.


The thing I find odd is that when copying the data from the drive while 
it was NTFS last night, there were no errors. I'm not sure if this kind 
of problem would only happen with writing, but I didn't see it until I 
tried to copy the data back to the drive after formatting to UFS.


It seemed to be working fine when it was the machine was running Windows.

I didn't think it was the cable since the other drive on the same cable 
runs at 133 fine now. The only other thing I could think of hardware 
would be that the master is at the end of the cable (jumper set to 
master) and this drive (slave) is in the middlebut I wouldn't think 
that would cause this.


This is a brand new motherboard. Giga-Byte GA-K8NS Pro. FreeBSD 
5.4-RELEASE (amd64).


I was also doing some searching around and found a list post about 
FreeBSD 5 and DMA write problems:


http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2005-August/017610.html

I was hoping this wasn't it since I didn't want to wait for 6 to become 
stable, but if we're leaning more towards the drive, then maybe I can 
get a new one. I'd just like to know for sure before I buy another 
drive, since I just bought a new 160GB for the FreeBSD install drive.


I can try to pull the data off one of my other drives, maybe the 60GB, 
then format that and try to dump backjust to see if that one copies 
back OK with no DMA errors.


-Mark
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Big directory and the UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn message

2005-04-18 Thread Jesse Reynolds
Hello
Recently, a server of mine running FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE started getting 
UDMA ICRC errors and put it's disk communication into PIO mode. I'm just 
wondering if this could have been caused by one very big and growing 
directory under /var, where one new file was being created every 15 
minutes. It had reached about 100,000 files in the one directory.

Is this possible?
Or is something more prozaic at play here, eg a dodgy cable or a disk on 
the way out?

There are two identical disks on this box that are mirrored with a 
hardware raid chip.

Here are the messages anyhow:
Apr  2 01:13:45 eagle /kernel: ad5: UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn 
119103807 of 0-255 (ad5 bn 119103807; cn 118158 tn 8 sn 39) retrying
Apr  2 01:14:01 eagle /kernel: ad5: UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn 
79975487 of 0-23 (ad5 bn 79975487; cn 79340 tn 12 sn 11) retrying
Apr  2 01:14:02 eagle last message repeated 2 times
Apr  2 01:14:02 eagle /kernel: ad5: UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn 
79975487 of 0-23 (ad5 bn 79975487; cn 79340 tn 12 sn 11) falling back to 
PIO m
ode

I'm also getting some other errors about time, eg:
Apr 15 03:17:13 eagle named[78]: gettimeofday returned bad tv_usec: 
corrected

Apr 18 15:16:54 eagle /kernel: microuptime() went backwards 
(44815198.498490 - 44815198.-695597409)

about the disks and filesystems:
# df -k
Filesystem  1K-blocks Used   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ar0s1a   103214263190  886382 7%/
/dev/ar0s1g 107383706 94043514 474949695%/large
/dev/ar0s1f   4129310  1432826 236614038%/usr
/dev/ar0s1e   4129310   649442 314952417%/var
procfs  44   0   100%/proc
# atacontrol status ar0
ar0: ATA RAID1 subdisks: ad4 ad5 status: READY
Thanks very much
Jesse
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Re: UDMA ICRC error

2005-02-18 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Rob wrote:
--- Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Rob wrote:
Ramiro Aceves wrote:

I have read that others had this problem before. I
just write this report for you to know.
When I installed FreeBSD 5.3 R, I get some errors
like this, but I could end the install:
ad0: WARNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying 
  request) LBA=5313599
ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
  error=84 ICRC,ABORTED
spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure: (error=5)


I have solved the problem disabling DMA:
hw.ata.ata_dma=0
It's indeed a serious problem, but too few people
running 5.3 seem to suffer from this.
Have you tried with 4.11?
I bet that would not generate these problems.
Thanks, I see that we are not alone!
I have not got a 4.11 CDROM here. I could test it on
4.10 if you think 
it is important, I have a 4.10 CDROM here. My
internet is too slow to 
dowload a full CDROM at home. I can download 4.11
install CDROM on the 
computers at University if it worths the effort.

No, no need for that. It's already confirmed that
4.X does not have this problem.
However, recently there's a 'ATA mkIII' patch around,
which seems to also solve this problem. Follow the
discussion on -stable mailinglist for further
details.
I'm not yet sure whether you have to upgrade first
to 5-STABLE before applying this patch.
Rob.
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UDMA ICRC error

2005-02-16 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Hello FreeBSD friends.
I have read that others had this problem before. I just write this 
report for you to know.

I received yesterday two old computers retired from a school and finally 
I was able to build a  decent machine mixing the best parts of each 
one. The machine is an AMD K6 400 MHz with 64 MB RAM, AGP i740 video. 
Hard disk is Seagate ST34321A/3.05 master on ide0 bus. On ide1 bus there 
is a CD-R as master, and a CD-RW as slave. Disk controller is VIA 
82C586B UDMA33.

When I installed FreeBSD 5.3 R, I get some errors like this, but I could 
end the install:

ad0: WARNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=5313599
ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84 ICRC,ABORTED
spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure: (error=5) 
I have solved the problem disabling DMA:
hw.ata.ata_dma=0
(I previously tried disabling ACPI with no success, and playing with 
BIOS LBA, LARGE, NORMAL settings at the BIOS with no success).

Now ad0: works in PIO4 mode and everything is fine, previously , it was 
UDMA33. Now there are no errors.

Should I investigate it further, or this is the only possible solution?
Should I expect a great performance decreasing in I/O disk access?
Thanks in advance.
Ramiro.
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Re: UDMA ICRC error

2005-02-16 Thread Rob
Ramiro Aceves wrote:
 
 I have read that others had this problem before. I
 just write this report for you to know.
 
 When I installed FreeBSD 5.3 R, I get some errors
 like this, but I could end the install:
 
 ad0: WARNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying 
 request) LBA=5313599
 ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=84 ICRC,ABORTED
 spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure: (error=5)
 
 
 I have solved the problem disabling DMA:
 hw.ata.ata_dma=0
 
 (I previously tried disabling ACPI with no success,
 and playing with BIOS LBA, LARGE, NORMAL settings
 at the BIOS with no success).
 
 Now ad0: works in PIO4 mode and everything is fine,
 previously , it was UDMA33. Now there are no errors.

There's you and me now. I have this problem with two
of my PCs. I don't know yet of anybody else who has
these problems.

It's indeed a serious problem, but too few people
running 5.3 seem to suffer from this.

Have you tried with 4.11?
I bet that would not generate these problems.

Regards,
Rob.

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Re: UDMA ICRC error

2005-02-16 Thread Peter Risdon
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 06:31 -0800, Rob wrote:
 Ramiro Aceves wrote:
  
  I have read that others had this problem before. I
  just write this report for you to know.
  
  When I installed FreeBSD 5.3 R, I get some errors
  like this, but I could end the install:
  
  ad0: WARNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying 
  request) LBA=5313599
  ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
  error=84 ICRC,ABORTED
  spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure: (error=5)
  
  
  I have solved the problem disabling DMA:
  hw.ata.ata_dma=0
  
  (I previously tried disabling ACPI with no success,
  and playing with BIOS LBA, LARGE, NORMAL settings
  at the BIOS with no success).
  
  Now ad0: works in PIO4 mode and everything is fine,
  previously , it was UDMA33. Now there are no errors.
 
 There's you and me now. I have this problem with two
 of my PCs. I don't know yet of anybody else who has
 these problems.
 
 It's indeed a serious problem, but too few people
 running 5.3 seem to suffer from this.

No, it's a known problem and I filed a pr about it a while back. So far
as I know, there's been no action on the pr and disabling dma is the
only workaround.
 
 Have you tried with 4.11?
 I bet that would not generate these problems.

Agreed.

Peter.


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Re: UDMA ICRC error

2005-02-16 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Rob wrote:
Ramiro Aceves wrote:
I have read that others had this problem before. I
just write this report for you to know.
When I installed FreeBSD 5.3 R, I get some errors
like this, but I could end the install:
ad0: WARNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying 
   request) LBA=5313599
ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
   error=84 ICRC,ABORTED
spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure: (error=5)


I have solved the problem disabling DMA:
hw.ata.ata_dma=0
(I previously tried disabling ACPI with no success,
and playing with BIOS LBA, LARGE, NORMAL settings
at the BIOS with no success).
Now ad0: works in PIO4 mode and everything is fine,
previously , it was UDMA33. Now there are no errors.

There's you and me now. I have this problem with two
of my PCs. I don't know yet of anybody else who has
these problems.
It's indeed a serious problem, but too few people
running 5.3 seem to suffer from this.
Have you tried with 4.11?
I bet that would not generate these problems.
Thanks, I see that we are not alone!
I have not got a 4.11 CDROM here. I could test it on 4.10 if you think 
it is important, I have a 4.10 CDROM here. My internet is too slow to 
dowload a full CDROM at home. I can download 4.11 install CDROM on the 
computers at University if it worths the effort.

Please let me know.
Ramiro.

Regards,
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Re: UDMA ICRC error

2005-02-16 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Peter Risdon wrote:
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 06:31 -0800, Rob wrote:
Ramiro Aceves wrote:
I have read that others had this problem before. I
just write this report for you to know.
When I installed FreeBSD 5.3 R, I get some errors
like this, but I could end the install:
ad0: WARNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying 
   request) LBA=5313599
ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
   error=84 ICRC,ABORTED
spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure: (error=5)


I have solved the problem disabling DMA:
hw.ata.ata_dma=0
(I previously tried disabling ACPI with no success,
and playing with BIOS LBA, LARGE, NORMAL settings
at the BIOS with no success).
Now ad0: works in PIO4 mode and everything is fine,
previously , it was UDMA33. Now there are no errors.
There's you and me now. I have this problem with two
of my PCs. I don't know yet of anybody else who has
these problems.
It's indeed a serious problem, but too few people
running 5.3 seem to suffer from this.

No, it's a known problem and I filed a pr about it a while back. So far
as I know, there's been no action on the pr and disabling dma is the
only workaround.
Have you tried with 4.11?
I bet that would not generate these problems.

Agreed.
Peter.

Hi Peter!
Thank you very much for the usefull information.
We will keep in touch for any news.
Ramiro.
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Re: UDMA ICRC error

2005-02-16 Thread Rob

--- Ramiro Aceves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Rob wrote:
  Ramiro Aceves wrote:
  
 I have read that others had this problem before. I
 just write this report for you to know.
 
 When I installed FreeBSD 5.3 R, I get some errors
 like this, but I could end the install:
 
 ad0: WARNING -READ_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying 
 request) LBA=5313599
 ad0: FAILURE -READ_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR
 error=84 ICRC,ABORTED
 spec_getpages:(ad0s1a) I/O read failure: (error=5)
 
 
 I have solved the problem disabling DMA:
 hw.ata.ata_dma=0
 
  
  It's indeed a serious problem, but too few people
  running 5.3 seem to suffer from this.
  
  Have you tried with 4.11?
  I bet that would not generate these problems.
  
 
 Thanks, I see that we are not alone!
 
 I have not got a 4.11 CDROM here. I could test it on
 4.10 if you think 
 it is important, I have a 4.10 CDROM here. My
 internet is too slow to 
 dowload a full CDROM at home. I can download 4.11
 install CDROM on the 
 computers at University if it worths the effort.

No, no need for that. It's already confirmed that
4.X does not have this problem.

However, recently there's a 'ATA mkIII' patch around,
which seems to also solve this problem. Follow the
discussion on -stable mailinglist for further
details.
I'm not yet sure whether you have to upgrade first
to 5-STABLE before applying this patch.

Rob.



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WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC ERROR

2005-01-31 Thread Francisco Reyes
A few days ago I started to get some errors which seemed like a HD was 
about to fail. Changed the drive and put a brand new drive. Since changing 
the drive I am getting even more errors.

Jan 30 12:52:24 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
(retrying request) LBA=52551839
Jan 30 13:08:36 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
(retrying request) LBA=88194655
Jan 30 13:12:01 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
(retrying request) LBA=106009983
Jan 30 13:12:01 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
(retrying request) LBA=106009983
Jan 30 13:12:01 zoraida kernel: ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR 
error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=106009983
Jan 30 13:12:04 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
(retrying request) LBA=106009983
Jan 30 13:12:04 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
(retrying request) LBA=106009983
Jan 30 13:12:05 zoraida kernel: ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR 
error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=106009983
Jan 30 13:12:21 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
(retrying request) LBA=106009983
Jan 30 13:12:21 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
(retrying request) LBA=106009983
Jan 30 13:12:22 zoraida kernel: ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR 
error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=106009983
Any ideas?
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Re: WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC ERROR

2005-01-31 Thread Santo Natale
check if yours new hd is connected through a 80 pin ide cable ( for UDMA speed 
= 66 ).
I had the same troble and it disappeared as soon as i replaced the cable.
hope this will help,
regards

On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 08:18:33PM -0500, Francisco Reyes wrote:
 A few days ago I started to get some errors which seemed like a HD was 
 about to fail. Changed the drive and put a brand new drive. Since changing 
 the drive I am getting even more errors.
 
 
 Jan 30 12:52:24 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
 (retrying request) LBA=52551839
 Jan 30 13:08:36 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
 (retrying request) LBA=88194655
 Jan 30 13:12:01 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
 (retrying request) LBA=106009983
 Jan 30 13:12:01 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
 (retrying request) LBA=106009983
 Jan 30 13:12:01 zoraida kernel: ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA 
 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=106009983
 Jan 30 13:12:04 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
 (retrying request) LBA=106009983
 Jan 30 13:12:04 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
 (retrying request) LBA=106009983
 Jan 30 13:12:05 zoraida kernel: ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA 
 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=106009983
 Jan 30 13:12:21 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
 (retrying request) LBA=106009983
 Jan 30 13:12:21 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error 
 (retrying request) LBA=106009983
 Jan 30 13:12:22 zoraida kernel: ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA 
 status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=106009983
 
 Any ideas?
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Re: WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC ERROR

2005-01-31 Thread Francisco Reyes
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Santo Natale wrote:
check if yours new hd is connected through a 80 pin ide cable ( for UDMA speed 
= 66 ).
I had the same troble and it disappeared as soon as i replaced the cable.
hope this will help,
regards

(retrying request) LBA=106009983
Jan 30 13:12:05 zoraida kernel: ad2: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA
status=51READY,DSC,ERROR error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=106009983
Jan 30 13:12:21 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error
(retrying request) LBA=106009983

Thanks. Will check the cable.
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Re: WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC ERROR

2005-01-31 Thread Francisco Reyes
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Santo Natale wrote:
check if yours new hd is connected through a 80 pin ide cable ( for UDMA speed = 66 ).

Jan 30 12:52:24 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error
(retrying request) LBA=52551839
Jan 30 13:08:36 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error
(retrying request) LBA=88194655

In the mean time how could I decrease the UDMA setting so it operates at a 
lower speed?

It probably will be a few days before I get to stop by the computer store.
Most lines are simply warnings, but there area a few errors. This is just 
a backup drive (ie every X number of hours backup some data from my 
primary drive) so it's not too much of a problem to slow it down 
temporarily.
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Re: WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC ERROR

2005-01-31 Thread cpghost
Francisco Reyes wrote:
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, Santo Natale wrote:
check if yours new hd is connected through a 80 pin ide cable ( for 
UDMA speed = 66 ).

Jan 30 12:52:24 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC 
error
(retrying request) LBA=52551839
Jan 30 13:08:36 zoraida kernel: ad2: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC 
error
(retrying request) LBA=88194655


In the mean time how could I decrease the UDMA setting so it operates 
at a lower speed?

Use atacontrol(8):
# atacontrol mode 0
Master = UDMA66
Slave  = BIOSPIO
# atacontrol mode 0 udma33 biospio
# atacontrol mode 0
Master = UDMA33
Slave = BIOSPIO
It probably will be a few days before I get to stop by the computer 
store.

Most lines are simply warnings, but there area a few errors. This is 
just a backup drive (ie every X number of hours backup some data from 
my primary drive) so it's not too much of a problem to slow it down 
temporarily.
They are warnings, but a UDMA speed mismatch can bite you when you least 
expect it :)

Cheers,
-cpghost.
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Re: WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC ERROR

2005-01-31 Thread Francisco Reyes
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005, cpghost wrote:
In the mean time how could I decrease the UDMA setting so it operates at a 
lower speed?
Use atacontrol(8):
Thanks. That was easy enough. :-)
They are warnings, but a UDMA speed mismatch can bite you when you least 
expect it :)
The drive is UDMA100. Set it to UDMA66 for now. Till I have time to check 
the cable.

How would one set it at boot time, if I needed, to make this permanent?
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Re: ATA - UDMA ICRC Error

2004-09-23 Thread Rishi Chopra
Can anyone help with this please?

--- Rishi Chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2004 23:29:01 -0700 (PDT)
 From: Rishi Chopra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ATA - UDMA ICRC Error
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 I noticed the posting at:
 

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8threadm=20040120192745.GA1209%40uriel.mcgoldrick.orgrnum=29prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfreebsd%2Bstatus%253D51%2Berror%253D84%2BICRC%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26start%3D20%26sa%3DN
 
 and was curious if a solution had been found for
 this
 problem (kernel: ad4: FAILURE - READ_DMA
 status=51READ, DSC, ERROR error=84ICRC,
 ABORTED).
 
 
 I have the same problem with a PCI promise Ultra100
 TX2 controller card and 200GB Western Digital 2000JB
 drive on startup.
 
 I've double-checked that the cable, controller, and
 drive are all working by plugging them by accessing
 them through DOS and Windows 2000; the drive shows
 up
 just fine and produces flawless I/O.  My drive is
 jumpered as single/master, set to ATA100, and the
 cable works just fine.
 
 I've noticed other postings with a similar error,
 but
 the only suggestion given was either controller
 failure or cable failure.  In my case I'm certain
 that
 neither is the cause of the problem.
 
 Any ideas?
 
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 http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~rchopra
 
 
   
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ATA - UDMA ICRC Error

2004-09-20 Thread Rishi Chopra
I noticed the posting at:

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8threadm=20040120192745.GA1209%40uriel.mcgoldrick.orgrnum=29prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfreebsd%2Bstatus%253D51%2Berror%253D84%2BICRC%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26start%3D20%26sa%3DN

and was curious if a solution had been found for this
problem (kernel: ad4: FAILURE - READ_DMA
status=51READ, DSC, ERROR error=84ICRC, ABORTED).


I have the same problem with a PCI promise Ultra100
TX2 controller card and 200GB Western Digital 2000JB
drive on startup.

I've double-checked that the cable, controller, and
drive are all working by plugging them by accessing
them through DOS and Windows 2000; the drive shows up
just fine and produces flawless I/O.  My drive is
jumpered as single/master, set to ATA100, and the
cable works just fine.

I've noticed other postings with a similar error, but
the only suggestion given was either controller
failure or cable failure.  In my case I'm certain that
neither is the cause of the problem.

Any ideas?

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More ata/UDMA disk write questions

2004-09-20 Thread Louis LeBlanc
Hey again everyone.

I had a problem recently with TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA errors, often
followed by a complete lockup and data loss, sometimes enough to
require a complete reinstall.

There were a number of recommendations, some of which, however well
intentioned, and definitely appreciated nonetheless, caused more
trouble and not less.  One thing that wasn't suggested was simply
turning off write caching in the ata(4) driver itself.  This is done
by setting hw.ata.wc=0 in /boot/loader.conf.

Well, I've read through the ata(4) manpage and the atacontrol(8)
manpage a little more thoroughly, and looked at the
/var/run/dmesg.boot log a lot more.  I've noticed a couple things:

* The ICH5 SATA 150 controller is correctly recognized as such by the
kernel.

* The Intel ICH5 controller is listed as supported in ata(4), and in
  the 4.10 hardware list
  (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/hardware-i386.html#AEN34),
  but not in the 5.2.1 hardware list
  (http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.2.1R/hardware-i386.html#AEN65).
  That's still a little confusing to me.

And, the ICH5 SATA 150 controller is supposed to be capable of a
150M/sec transfer rate, but the atacontrol(8) manpage only mentions
UDMA2 (aka UDMA33), UDMA4 (aka UDMA66), UDMA5 (aka UDMA100) and UDMA6
(aka UDMA133), which, if I understand these names right, don't provide
the full 150M/s transfer rate.  The atacontrol utility indicates the
drive controller in question is currently using UDMA100.  I'm not
really familiar with these protocols/standards, so if anyone knows
where a 25 cent tour of these can be found, I'd appreciate the
pointer.

Assuming I am correct about the meaning of the 33/66/100/133 values,
does anyone on this list know if (or when) the ata driver will support
the full 150M/s transfer rate?

Is it possible that the ata(4) write caching could be incompatible
with the disks hardware caching mechanisms?

I've turned off hw.ata.wc, rebooted, and am currently executing a full
port rebuild/reinstall (portupgrade -afR) which should be done some
time next year (well, maybe tomorrow).  So far so good.  I'm going to
guess that the disk activity incurred in this would be likely to
indicate that the problem is either still around or has been fixed by
turning off write caching.

I have put the drive through a bios level diagnostic built into newer
Dell MoBos (CTRL-ALT-D at the Dell startup logo) and it passed just
fine.  There is a WDC diagnostic tool I have downloaded and will find
a way to use if this happens again, but I think the drive must be
fine.

Any thoughts, pointers, etc. on ata, atacontrol, UDMA150 support, etc.
would be appreciated.

Thanks
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Re: How to disable UDMA for HDD?

2004-08-13 Thread Stevan Tiefert
On Thursday 12 August 2004 19:11, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Stevan Tiefert wrote:
 [ ... ]

  you did not understood what I wanted. I needed a suggestion how to
  install FreeBSD without UDMA-support. Your suggestion is only useful if
  the system is running, but that was not the case!

 What happens if you configure the BIOS of the system not to use UDMA modes
 for that device?  Most BIOSes will let you control individual devices, so
 set whatever it is to PIO4; otherwise, disable UDMA for everything long
 enough to complete the install, and then tweak things from there.

Hello Chuck,

it is right, if you say that BIOSes provide switching between PIO0 to PIO4, 
but there is no way to control UDMA in a BIOS. Anyway, it doesn't matter, 
because every Operating System (without DOS) is taking control after the 
bootstrap over the hardware and even FreeBSD. If the kernel is taking 
control, switches have to take in the kernel described in the e-mail from 
Nathan at the loader prompt:

set hw.ata.ata_dma=0

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Re: How to disable UDMA for HDD?

2004-08-12 Thread Chuck Swiger
Stevan Tiefert wrote:
[ ... ]
you did not understood what I wanted. I needed a suggestion how to install 
FreeBSD without UDMA-support. Your suggestion is only useful if the system is 
running, but that was not the case!
What happens if you configure the BIOS of the system not to use UDMA modes for 
that device?  Most BIOSes will let you control individual devices, so set 
whatever it is to PIO4; otherwise, disable UDMA for everything long enough to 
complete the install, and then tweak things from there.

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Re: How to disable UDMA for HDD?

2004-08-11 Thread Matt H
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:08:29 +0200, Stevan Tiefert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
 set hw.ata.ata_dma=0
 
 Now it is possible to install FreeBSD!
 
 Thanks very much!
 
 
 Mr.
 Stevan Tiefert
 

Is there a way to disable DMA for a single hard drive, instead of all
IDE devices?

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Re: How to disable UDMA for HDD?

2004-08-11 Thread Mark
Matt H wrote:

 On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:08:29 +0200, Stevan Tiefert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SNIP
 set hw.ata.ata_dma=0

 Now it is possible to install FreeBSD!

 Thanks very much!


 Mr.
 Stevan Tiefert

 Is there a way to disable DMA for a single hard drive, instead of all
 IDE devices?

How about this: /sbin/atacontrol mode 0 PIO4 XXX? (if you want UDMA
disabled on the master at channel 0).

- Mark

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Re: How to disable UDMA for HDD?

2004-08-11 Thread Stevan Tiefert
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 16:46, Matt H wrote:
 On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:08:29 +0200, Stevan Tiefert
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 SNIP

  set hw.ata.ata_dma=0
 
  Now it is possible to install FreeBSD!
 
  Thanks very much!
 
 
  Mr.
  Stevan Tiefert

 Is there a way to disable DMA for a single hard drive, instead of all
 IDE devices?
Hello,

I don't know it.

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Re: How to disable UDMA for HDD?

2004-08-11 Thread Stevan Tiefert
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 16:55, Mark wrote:
 Matt H wrote:
  On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 09:08:29 +0200, Stevan Tiefert
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  SNIP
 
  set hw.ata.ata_dma=0
 
  Now it is possible to install FreeBSD!
 
  Thanks very much!
 
 
  Mr.
  Stevan Tiefert
 
  Is there a way to disable DMA for a single hard drive, instead of all
  IDE devices?

 How about this: /sbin/atacontrol mode 0 PIO4 XXX? (if you want UDMA
 disabled on the master at channel 0).

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Hello Mark,

you did not understood what I wanted. I needed a suggestion how to install 
FreeBSD without UDMA-support. Your suggestion is only useful if the system is 
running, but that was not the case!

Thanks to Nathan!

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How to disable UDMA for HDD?

2004-08-09 Thread Stevan Tiefert
Hello,

when I try to install FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my computer with HDD on ata0-master and 
CD-ROM on ata0-slave I got five interessting messages during the 
boot-process:

...
ad0: 4124MB SAMSUNG VA34323A [8938/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=8446347
ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=0
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA interrupt was seen but timeout fired LBA=8446347
ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA interrupt was seen but taskqueue stalled LBA=8446347

then the computer stops and he resists in this state till now...
OpenBSD downgrades this DMA-thing automaticly and the CD-ROM seems not 
supporting UDMA and I assume to set at bootphase 3 a device.hint but I don't 
know which one?

With regards
Mr.
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Re: How to disable UDMA for HDD?

2004-08-09 Thread Nathan Kinkade
On Mon, Aug 09, 2004 at 11:10:40AM +0200, Stevan Tiefert wrote:
 Hello,
 
 when I try to install FreeBSD 5.2.1 on my computer with HDD on ata0-master and 
 CD-ROM on ata0-slave I got five interessting messages during the 
 boot-process:
 
 ...
 ad0: 4124MB SAMSUNG VA34323A [8938/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
 ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=8446347
 ad0: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA retrying (2 retries left) LBA=0
 ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA interrupt was seen but timeout fired LBA=8446347
 ad0: WARNING - READ_DMA interrupt was seen but taskqueue stalled LBA=8446347
 
 then the computer stops and he resists in this state till now...
 OpenBSD downgrades this DMA-thing automaticly and the CD-ROM seems not 
 supporting UDMA and I assume to set at bootphase 3 a device.hint but I don't 
 know which one?
 
 With regards
 Mr.
 Stevan Tiefert

Here are the two pertinent sysctl variables for your ATA hard disk and
CDROM, respectively:

hw.ata.ata_dma: 1
hw.ata.atapi_dma: 0

These variables are read only once the kernel has been booted, so if you
want to try setting them manually you'll have to put them into
/boot/loader.conf as something like:

hw.ata.ata_dma=0

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Re: Problems with UDMA harddisks

2004-07-05 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Jud wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:28:12 +0200 (CEST), Peter Ulrich Kruppa
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Hi!
I hope somebody on this list has another good idea, I haven't
thought of yet:
I have a machine that came with two Excel Stor 40 GB (Ganymede)
UDMA/100 harddisks.
To install FreeBSD 4.10 I had to disable UDMA in the BIOS,
otherwise they wouldn't have booted (some complaint about ata0).
Of course I wish to get UDMA working, since this is said to
improve perfomance significantly.
I checked if the UDMA cable is plugged into the correct places
for mainboard, master and slave - this is o.k. .
Are there any other things (bios settings, kernel modules, magic
chants,...) I could try?
I've been using DragonFly so I am not absolutely certain 4.10 still uses
/boot/loader.conf, but if it does, then inserting the following line in
that file may help:
hw.ata.ata_dma=1
No, it still doesn't work.
But thanks anyway.
Uli.

Jud
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Problems with UDMA harddisks

2004-07-02 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
Hi!
I hope somebody on this list has another good idea, I haven't 
thought of yet:

I have a machine that came with two Excel Stor 40 GB (Ganymede) 
UDMA/100 harddisks.
To install FreeBSD 4.10 I had to disable UDMA in the BIOS, 
otherwise they wouldn't have booted (some complaint about ata0).
Of course I wish to get UDMA working, since this is said to 
improve perfomance significantly. 
I checked if the UDMA cable is plugged into the correct places 
for mainboard, master and slave - this is o.k. .

Are there any other things (bios settings, kernel modules, magic 
chants,...) I could try?

Thanks,
Uli.
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Re: Problems with UDMA harddisks

2004-07-02 Thread Jud

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 08:28:12 +0200 (CEST), Peter Ulrich Kruppa
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Hi!
 
 I hope somebody on this list has another good idea, I haven't 
 thought of yet:
 
 I have a machine that came with two Excel Stor 40 GB (Ganymede) 
 UDMA/100 harddisks.
 To install FreeBSD 4.10 I had to disable UDMA in the BIOS, 
 otherwise they wouldn't have booted (some complaint about ata0).
 Of course I wish to get UDMA working, since this is said to 
 improve perfomance significantly. 
 I checked if the UDMA cable is plugged into the correct places 
 for mainboard, master and slave - this is o.k. .
 
 Are there any other things (bios settings, kernel modules, magic 
 chants,...) I could try?

I've been using DragonFly so I am not absolutely certain 4.10 still uses
/boot/loader.conf, but if it does, then inserting the following line in
that file may help:

hw.ata.ata_dma=1

Jud
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WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC errors with my ata drive(s)/controller

2004-06-21 Thread Kendall Gifford
Greetings. I recently upgraded my server from 4.9-RELEASE to
5.2.1-RELEASE and immediately started to get the following error
logged whenever there is significant disk activity:
ad0: WARNING - WRITE_DMA UDMA ICRC error (retrying request) LBA=137690696
ad0: FAILURE - WRITE_DMA status=51READY,DSC,ERROR 
error=84ICRC,ABORTED LBA=137690696

[there are slight, insignificant variations, of course]
Anyhow, the first thing I did was to install and run smartctl (part of
the smartmontools package) since both my drives are S.M.A.R.T. enabled.
Aside from having the same write dma errors in their internal logs, the
drives appear to be fine (all values are well above their threshold).
Also, all disk activity that sparked said errors always succeeded as all
copied files were uncorrupted.
So, I did a little searching online and found that besides the misc.
person having this problem and being told to check their drives or
cables or ide controllers, I came across the following two threads:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8threadm=20040409042611.GA68595_binary.net%40ns.sol.netrnum=1prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfreebsd%2Bwrite_dma%2Budma%2Bicrc%2Berror%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D20040409042611.GA68595_binary.net%2540ns.sol.net%26rnum%3D1
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8threadm=20040414024308.GA6468%40binary.netrnum=4prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dfreebsd%2Bwrite_dma%2Budma%2Bicrc%2Berror%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D20040414024308.GA6468%2540binary.net%26rnum%3D4
The first thing I noted was that I am also using a board with the VIA
8235: [dmesg]
atapci0: VIA 8235 UDMA133 controller port 0xdc00-0xdc0f at device 17.1 
on pci0

And I also have fairly large drives, two Maxtor 120GB drives: [dmesg]
ad0: 117246MB Maxtor 6Y120P0 [238216/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA133
acd0: CDRW LITE-ON LTR-48246S at ata0-slave BIOSPIO
ad2: 117246MB Maxtor 6Y120P0 [238216/16/63] at ata1-master UDMA133
Also of note is that these two drives worked just fine in UDMA133 mode
in my 4.9-RELEASE system. Due to this and the newness of the two drives,
the motherboard, and the ATA133 round cables as well as having
everything check out in my S.M.A.R.T. test, and the fact that despite
these errors, the disk I/O transactions always seem to succeed (as far 
as I've been able to test) and the system otherwise functions normally
even with both drives in UDMA133 mode, I wonder if there is possibly
either some hardware bug with the VIA 8235 or some incompatibility
between the ata driver in 5.2.1-RELEASE and the VIA 8235 or if someone,
after reading my message and the two threads I linked to, has yet
another idea?

P.S. - Just as was described in the threads above, if I also put my
problem drive in PIO mode, I get no more UDMA ICRC errors.
P.P.S. - While, for reasons I've describe above, I suspect my hardware
is not at fault, I know that I certainly can't guarantee that this is
the case since I don't have the resources (a.k.a. extra hardware and
time) to swap parts around to verify, for sure, it isn't at fault.
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Harddisk UDMA ICRC error... from kernel at bootup. What does it mean?

2004-06-16 Thread Rob
Hi,
A friend of mine switched from Windows XP to FreeBSD, because I garanteed that 
FreeBSD
would be faster. I also want to optimize performance as much as possible. I'm therefore
worried about the following messages from the kernel at bootup:
[...snip...]
ad0: 16448MB WDC WD172AA [33420/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66
ad1: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00CRA1 [155061/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA66
acd0: CD-RW HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4320B at ata1-master PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895 (ad1s5 bn 93787664; 
cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) retrying
ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895 (ad1s5 bn 93787664; 
cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) retrying
ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895 (ad1s5 bn 93787664; 
cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) retrying
ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895 (ad1s5 bn 93787664; 
cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) falling back to PIO mode
---
Both harddisks are on the same IDE 40-pin cable as master and slave.
ad0 is the FreeBSD formatted harddisk; one slice and several FreeBSD partitions.
ad1 is from a former Windows XP installation, with two partitions: ad1s5 (ntfs) and 
ad1s6 (msdos).
I don't understand much of the lines above.
The last line says it falls back to PIO mode due to errors with ad1s5c.
What does that mean? Will it use the slow 16.6 MB/s data exchange from disk to host?
Does this then also imply that both disks use PIO/slow data exchange speed?
(remember: both disks are on the same cable to the motherboard).
What can I do to get things better and faster?
And also: is this UDMA ICRC error because it's a Windows/DOS partition?
Would formatting to FreeBSD filesystem solve the problem?
Thanks,
Rob.
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Re: Harddisk UDMA ICRC error... from kernel at bootup. What does it mean?

2004-06-16 Thread Bill Moran
Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 A friend of mine switched from Windows XP to FreeBSD, because I garanteed that 
 FreeBSD
 would be faster. I also want to optimize performance as much as possible. I'm 
 therefore
 worried about the following messages from the kernel at bootup:
 
 [...snip...]
 ad0: 16448MB WDC WD172AA [33420/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66
 ad1: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00CRA1 [155061/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA66
 acd0: CD-RW HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4320B at ata1-master PIO4
 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
 ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895 (ad1s5 bn 
 93787664; cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) retrying
 ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895 (ad1s5 bn 
 93787664; cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) retrying
 ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895 (ad1s5 bn 
 93787664; cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) retrying
 ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895 (ad1s5 bn 
 93787664; cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) falling back to PIO mode
 
 ---
 
 Both harddisks are on the same IDE 40-pin cable as master and slave.
 ad0 is the FreeBSD formatted harddisk; one slice and several FreeBSD partitions.
 ad1 is from a former Windows XP installation, with two partitions: ad1s5 (ntfs) and 
 ad1s6 (msdos).
 
 I don't understand much of the lines above.

Super-simplified: it's telling you it gets checksum erros when it tries to
talk to the drives at ATA66 speed, so it slows down and is then successful.

 The last line says it falls back to PIO mode due to errors with ad1s5c.
 What does that mean? Will it use the slow 16.6 MB/s data exchange from disk to host?

Yes.  Windows is probably already running at this speed, but it just doesn't
bother to inform you.

 Does this then also imply that both disks use PIO/slow data exchange speed?
 (remember: both disks are on the same cable to the motherboard).

Yes.

 What can I do to get things better and faster?

Get an 80 conductor cable (probably).

 And also: is this UDMA ICRC error because it's a Windows/DOS partition?
 Would formatting to FreeBSD filesystem solve the problem?

No, it's more likely because of the 40 pin cable.

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Re: Harddisk UDMA ICRC error... from kernel at bootup. What does it mean?

2004-06-16 Thread Markie
- Original Message - 
From: Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: Harddisk UDMA ICRC error... from kernel at bootup. What does
it mean?


| Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  Hi,
| 
|  A friend of mine switched from Windows XP to FreeBSD, because I
garanteed that FreeBSD
|  would be faster. I also want to optimize performance as much as
possible. I'm therefore
|  worried about the following messages from the kernel at bootup:
| 
|  [...snip...]
|  ad0: 16448MB WDC WD172AA [33420/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66
|  ad1: 76319MB WDC WD800JB-00CRA1 [155061/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA66
|  acd0: CD-RW HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4320B at ata1-master PIO4
|  Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
|  ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895
(ad1s5 bn 93787664; cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) retrying
|  ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895
(ad1s5 bn 93787664; cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) retrying
|  ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895
(ad1s5 bn 93787664; cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) retrying
|  ad1s5c: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 93787664 of 46885768-46885895
(ad1s5 bn 93787664; cn 5838 tn 3 sn 5) falling back to PIO mode
| 
|  ---
| 
|  Both harddisks are on the same IDE 40-pin cable as master and slave.
|  ad0 is the FreeBSD formatted harddisk; one slice and several FreeBSD
partitions.
|  ad1 is from a former Windows XP installation, with two partitions:
ad1s5 (ntfs) and ad1s6 (msdos).
| 
|  I don't understand much of the lines above.
|
| Super-simplified: it's telling you it gets checksum erros when it tries
to
| talk to the drives at ATA66 speed, so it slows down and is then
successful.
|
|  The last line says it falls back to PIO mode due to errors with ad1s5c.
|  What does that mean? Will it use the slow 16.6 MB/s data exchange from
disk to host?
|
| Yes.  Windows is probably already running at this speed, but it just
doesn't
| bother to inform you.
|
|  Does this then also imply that both disks use PIO/slow data exchange
speed?
|  (remember: both disks are on the same cable to the motherboard).
|
| Yes.
|
|  What can I do to get things better and faster?
|
| Get an 80 conductor cable (probably).

Shouldn't they be able to use ATA33 on a 40 pin cable atleast? Try
atacontrol?

|
|  And also: is this UDMA ICRC error because it's a Windows/DOS
partition?
|  Would formatting to FreeBSD filesystem solve the problem?
|
| No, it's more likely because of the 40 pin cable.
|
| -- 
| Bill Moran
| Potential Technologies
| http://www.potentialtech.com
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HDD-UDMA-100 support at setup

2004-06-04 Thread Volker Lieder
Hello,
I want to install a Freebsd 4.9 System with a 40GB UDMA-100 HDD.
After the CD has booted i got an error while the IDE-Bus is scanning.
Has anybody solved this Problem?
On other Systems it is possible to solve this problems with
deactivating this function in the bios, but this bios 
hasn't such a switchbutton.

Any idea?

Volker
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UDMA ICRC error

2004-05-29 Thread white vamp
i keep getting this in my securty run mailings and in my logs
what dose this mean ? my HD going bad or what ...
ad0s1b: UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn 1418815 of 197376-197503 (ad0s1 bn 
1418815; cn 88 tn 80 sn 55) retrying
ohh ond its different every time aswell

vampextream# uname -a
FreeBSD vampextream.com 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27 
17:51:09 GMT 2003 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

and thx inadvance for any help on this ..
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Re: UDMA ICRC error

2004-05-29 Thread SWIT
I got this on several hds.
was told once it was cuz the hd was like ata 100 and the cable or controller
didnt't match .
however sometime later (months) the drives died.
tyring to redo a machine that had these errors that the drive died in.
MD
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Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: UDMA ICRC error


 i keep getting this in my securty run mailings and in my logs
 what dose this mean ? my HD going bad or what ...
 ad0s1b: UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn 1418815 of 197376-197503 (ad0s1 bn
 1418815; cn 88 tn 80 sn 55) retrying
 ohh ond its different every time aswell

 vampextream# uname -a
 FreeBSD vampextream.com 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27
 17:51:09 GMT 2003
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

 and thx inadvance for any help on this ..

 David D.

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Re: UDMA ICRC error

2004-05-29 Thread Marshall Pierce
I occasionally get those errors as well. When I'd boot, the drive would 
try and
do ATA-100, fail, and revert to PIO-4. (I blame the cheap PCI IDE card, 
it came free
with a hard drive, and I have to use it, since the nforce2 chipset on 
my mobo
won't see anything but primary master and secondary master under FBSD.) 
I can
make it work by setting the drive to ATA-33, though. (The command, for 
me, is
# atacontrol mode 2 UDMA33 xxx
but check the manpage to see what options you should use.) I've been 
using the
hard drive for about 7 months now, and it works fine. I don't put 
anything I
care about much on it, though.
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On May 29, 2004, at 1:13 PM, SWIT wrote:
I got this on several hds.
was told once it was cuz the hd was like ata 100 and the cable or 
controller
didnt't match .
however sometime later (months) the drives died.
tyring to redo a machine that had these errors that the drive died in.
MD
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: UDMA ICRC error


i keep getting this in my securty run mailings and in my logs
what dose this mean ? my HD going bad or what ...
ad0s1b: UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn 1418815 of 197376-197503 (ad0s1 
bn
1418815; cn 88 tn 80 sn 55) retrying
ohh ond its different every time aswell

vampextream# uname -a
FreeBSD vampextream.com 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct 27
17:51:09 GMT 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
and thx inadvance for any help on this ..
David D.
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UDMA error

2004-03-02 Thread RYAN vAN GINNEKEN
I run FreeBSD 4.9 and keep getting this message in my dmesg both the 
cable and the drive are cable of UDMA 100 at least and the board is a 
newer Intel 865 chip set.  Do i have to configure something in my kernel 
or what??

ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
ad0: 38204MB SAMSUNG SP0411N [77622/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: CD-RW HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B at ata1-master PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
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Re: UDMA error

2004-03-02 Thread Jonathan Arnold
RYAN vAN GINNEKEN wrote:
I run FreeBSD 4.9 and keep getting this message in my dmesg both the 
cable and the drive are cable of UDMA 100 at least and the board is a 
newer Intel 865 chip set.  Do i have to configure something in my kernel 
or what??

ad0: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 cable or device
ad0: 38204MB SAMSUNG SP0411N [77622/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
acd0: CD-RW HL-DT-ST GCE-8525B at ata1-master PIO4
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
We were talking about this very thing not too long ago on this list.
Some have claimed this can happen if you:
a] Plug the cable in backwards - ie., the end with the single plug
should go into the motherboard and the end that has the two plugs
closer together should go into the drives.
b] Plug the wrong one of the two that are closer together into the
driver.
So I'd say try pulling out the cable and plugging it back in in a
different way.
Another thing to be sure of is that you have the UDMA 100 cable;
ie, one end should have a blue connector and that end should go into
the motherboard.
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Re: 5.1-RELEASE - UDMA ICRC error - falling back to PIO mode

2004-02-20 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Rajamani, Rajarajan (Rajarajan) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am running 5.1-RELEASE on a DELL GX150 with 512MB RAM on which I installed a new 
 WD-1600JB IDE along
 with the promise UDMA100 controller which came along with the drive.  The drive can 
 be accessed
 but the access speed is very slow and I noticed that dmesg shows the following
   ad4: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 0 of 0-3 retrying 
 This repeats and is followed by
   ad4: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 0 of 0-3 falling back to PIO mode
 
 I have changed the PCI slot on which the card is seated, changed cables and even 
 hooked 
 the drive directly to the mother board but the problem persists. 
 The disc+controller however works ok on a wintel machine. Could it be some type of 
 hard disc error ?

Possible, but not terribly likely.  [Unless it's actually running in
PIO mode on Windows also.]

Does the same occur on FreeBSD 5.2 or 4.9?
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5.1-RELEASE - UDMA ICRC error - falling back to PIO mode

2004-02-19 Thread Rajamani, Rajarajan (Rajarajan)
I am running 5.1-RELEASE on a DELL GX150 with 512MB RAM on which I installed a new 
WD-1600JB IDE along
with the promise UDMA100 controller which came along with the drive.  The drive can be 
accessed
but the access speed is very slow and I noticed that dmesg shows the following
ad4: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 0 of 0-3 retrying 
This repeats and is followed by
ad4: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 0 of 0-3 falling back to PIO mode

I have changed the PCI slot on which the card is seated, changed cables and even 
hooked 
the drive directly to the mother board but the problem persists. 
The disc+controller however works ok on a wintel machine. Could it be some type of 
hard disc error ?

Can anyone help,

Thanks,

Rajarajan


--- BEGIN dmesg output 
Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun  5 02:55:42 GMT 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
Preloaded elf kernel /boot/kernel/kernel at 0xc06d4000.
Preloaded elf module /boot/kernel/acpi.ko at 0xc06d426c.
Timecounter i8254  frequency 1193182 Hz
Timecounter TSC  frequency 996769775 Hz
CPU: Intel Pentium III (996.77-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0x68a  Stepping = 10
  
Features=0x383fbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE
real memory  = 534802432 (510 MB)
avail memory = 512077824 (488 MB)
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
npx0: math processor on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
acpi0: DELL   GX150   on motherboard
pcibios: BIOS version 2.10
Using $PIR table, 11 entries at 0xc00fbb40
acpi0: power button is handled as a fixed feature programming model.
Timecounter ACPI-fast  frequency 3579545 Hz
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x808-0x80b on acpi0
acpi_cpu0: CPU on acpi0
acpi_button0: Power Button on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
agp0: Intel 82815 (i815 GMCH) SVGA controller mem 
0xff00-0xff07,0xf800-0xfbff irq 9 at device 2.0 on pci0
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
atapci0: Promise PDC20268 UDMA100 controller port 
0xecc0-0xeccf,0xecd8-0xecdb,0xece0-0xece7,0xecf0-0xecf3,0xecf8-0xecff mem 
0xfdffc000-0xfdff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci1
ata2: at 0xecf8 on atapci0
ata3: at 0xece0 on atapci0
xl0: 3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL port 0xec00-0xec7f mem 0xfdffbc00-0xfdffbc7f 
irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci1
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:b0:d0:94:f2:67
miibus0: MII bus on xl0
ukphy0: Generic IEEE 802.3u media interface on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci1: Intel ICH2 UDMA100 controller port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci1
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci1
uhci0: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-A port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 11 at 
device 31.2 on pci0
usb0: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: serial bus, SMBus at device 31.3 (no driver attached)
uhci1: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-B port 0xff60-0xff7f irq 11 at 
device 31.4 on pci0
usb1: Intel 82801BA/BAM (ICH2) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
pci0: multimedia, audio at device 31.5 (no driver attached)
fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller (i82077, NE72065 or clone) port 0x3f7,0x3f0-0x3f5 
irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
sio0 port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1 port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on acpi0
sio1: type 16550A
ppc0 port 0x778-0x77f,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0
ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
ppbus0: Parallel port bus on ppc0
plip0: PLIP network interface on ppbus0
lpt0: Printer on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: Parallel I/O on ppbus0
orm0: Option ROMs at iomem 0xca000-0xcbfff,0xc-0xc9fff on isa0
pmtimer0 on isa0
atkbdc0: Keyboard controller (i8042) at port 0x64,0x60 on isa0
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
ad0: 19073MB Maxtor 5T020H2 [38752/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
ad4: 152627MB WDC WD1600JB-00DUA3 [310101/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100
ad4: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
ata2: resetting devices ..
done
ad4: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 0 of 0-3 retrying
ad4: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 0 of 0-3 retrying
ad4

Re: UDMA ICRC Error FreeBSD 4.9, falling back to PIO mode

2004-02-07 Thread Hong MingJian

I have the same messages in my `dmesg'.
It's caused by your IDE cable, replace it.

HTH
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Re: UDMA ICRC Error FreeBSD 4.9, falling back to PIO mode

2004-02-04 Thread Gilad Rom
treeml wrote:
I get a following error on boot

ad1s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 511 of 244-255 (ad1s1 bn 511; cn 0 tn
8sn 7) retrying
ad1s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 511 of 244-255 (ad1s1 bn 511; cn 0 tn
8sn 7) retrying
ad1s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 511 of 244-255 (ad1s1 bn 511; cn 0 tn
8sn 7) retrying
ad1s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 511 of 244-255 (ad1s1 bn 511; cn 0 tn
8sn 7) retrying
falling back to PIO mode
Sounds like your drive was physically damaged.
This recently happend to a mail server of ours,
and I had to reinstall the whole thing.
(After long fsck sessions, only a small part
of the file systems was accessible, and there
was nothing of value that could be salvaged)
Sorry for the Bad News (tm) :(

Gilad.

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UDMA ICRC Error FreeBSD 4.9, falling back to PIO mode

2004-02-03 Thread treeml
I get a following error on boot

ad1s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 511 of 244-255 (ad1s1 bn 511; cn 0 tn
8sn 7) retrying
ad1s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 511 of 244-255 (ad1s1 bn 511; cn 0 tn
8sn 7) retrying
ad1s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 511 of 244-255 (ad1s1 bn 511; cn 0 tn
8sn 7) retrying
ad1s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 511 of 244-255 (ad1s1 bn 511; cn 0 tn
8sn 7) retrying
falling back to PIO mode


BTW, this all happened after a power failure.  At first I was prompted to go
into the single user mode, but then after second reboot that doesn't even
happen anymore.  Just the error message. I switch a IDE cable to the hard
drive, and now,  I don't even get the error message anymore.  The system
stuck at

Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad1s1a

And it stuck there.  I can reboot by ctr+alt+del


I boot the system using the FreeBSD Fixit disk.  However, I can't seem to
see all the hard drive partitions in /dev.

Following is my partition setup.

FilesystemSize   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/ad1s1a   252M46M   186M20%/
/dev/ad1s2e20G   9.0M18G 0%/backup
/dev/ad1s2f20G   130M18G 1%/data
/dev/ad1s2g32G   8.9G21G30%/hd2
/dev/ad1s1f   252M18K   232M 0%/tmp
/dev/ad1s1g   9.8G   1.6G   7.5G17%/usr
/dev/ad1s1d47G10G33G24%/usr/home
/dev/ad1s1h20G   190M18G 1%/usr/local
/dev/ad1s1e  1008M49M   878M 5%/var

/dev/ad0s1e /space



I only see

/dev/ad0s1
/dev/ad1s1

What happened to
/dev/ad1s1a
/dev/ad1s2f
/dev/ad0s1e


I  ran fsck

Fixit# fsck /dev/ad1s1

and it seems to be fine

Fixit# mount /dev/ad1s1  /mnt

That seems to be the root, but I still can't find /dev/ad1s2f or any other
/dev/ad1s2* partitions.

Any idea?


Tree




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UDMA ICRC Error

2003-11-03 Thread Tomas Nyman
-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, 
logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default
ad0: 9671MB WDC AC310100B [19650/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
ad6: 194481MB Maxtor 6Y200P0 [395136/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100
ad7: 194481MB Maxtor 6Y200P0 [395136/16/63] at ata3-slave UDMA100
ad12: 114473MB WDC WD1200JB-00DUA0 [232581/16/63] at ata6-master UDMA100
ad14: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 234441585 of 0-3 (ad14 bn 234441585; cn 232580 tn 
15 sn 0) retrying
ad14: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 234441585 of 0-3 (ad14 bn 234441585; cn 232580 tn 
15 sn 0) retrying
ad14: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 234441585 of 0-3 (ad14 bn 234441585; cn 232580 tn 
15 sn 0) retrying
ad14: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 234441585 of 0-3 (ad14 bn 234441585; cn 232580 tn 
15 sn 0) falling back to PIO mode
ad14: 114473MB WDC WD1200JB-00DUA0 [232581/16/63] at ata7-master PIO4
ad15: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 234441585 of 0-3 (ad15 bn 234441585; cn 232580 tn 
15 sn 0) retrying
ad15: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 234441585 of 0-3 (ad15 bn 234441585; cn 232580 tn 
15 sn 0) retrying
ad15: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 234441585 of 0-3 (ad15 bn 234441585; cn 232580 tn 
15 sn 0) retrying
ad15: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 234441585 of 0-3 (ad15 bn 234441585; cn 232580 tn 
15 sn 0) falling back to PIO mode
ad15: 114473MB WDC WD1200JB-00DUA0 [232581/16/63] at ata7-slave PIO4
ad16: 95396MB WDC WD1000BB-60CCB0 [193821/16/63] at ata8-master UDMA66
ad17: 95396MB WDC WD1000BB-32CCB0 [193821/16/63] at ata8-slave UDMA66
ad18: 95396MB WDC WD1000BB-60CCB0 [193821/16/63] at ata9-master UDMA66
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a
ad12: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 0 (ad12 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) retrying
ad12: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 0 (ad12 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) retrying
ad12: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 0 (ad12 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) retrying
ad12: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 0 (ad12 bn 0; cn 0 tn 0 sn 0) falling back to PIO 
mode

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Re: UDMA ICRC Error

2003-11-03 Thread Alexander Haderer
At 17:04 03.11.2003 +0100, Tomas Nyman wrote:
Hi!
I have a serious problem with 3 of my harddrives, the fail to enter DMA 
mode on boot, I can force them into udma5 using atacontrol but after a few 
reads I will get the same error and they will fall back into PIO4 mode.
The 3 disks are in a Vinum array consisting of 6 drives, the other 3 are 
working fine.

Sometimes when I try to boot I get this error:
Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode
fault code  = supervisor read, page not present
...
DMESG:
Copyright (c) 1992-2003 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #1: Thu Oct 30 19:09:30 CET 2003
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.
atapci1: Promise TX2 ATA100 controller port 
0xa400-0xa40f,0xa000-0xa003,0x9c00-0x9c07,0x9800-0x9803,0x9400-0x9407 mem 
0xdb00-0xdb003fff irq 7 at device 11.0 on pci0
ata2: at 0x9400 on atapci1
ata3: at 0x9c00 on atapci1

ad6: 194481MB Maxtor 6Y200P0 [395136/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100
ad7: 194481MB Maxtor 6Y200P0 [395136/16/63] at ata3-slave UDMA100
...

Maybe this is related with 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=35461. Although I answered that 
the problem still exists the PR gets closed. Probably because others were 
not able to reproduce this or were not affected.

Another disk related trap 12 problem  is:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=58391

Can you reproduce this?

Does the problem still occur if you remove one of the two Promise controllers?

Probably you should reopen the PR 35461.

Sorry, no real answers...

Alexander

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Re: UDMA

2003-03-30 Thread Wilkinson,Alex
I have seen these errors before. It has to do with Electro Magnetic Interference 
(noise).
Try using different ribbons (ATA33) and see if the errors disappear.

 - aW


ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938

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Re: UDMA

2003-03-30 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 09:39:40AM +0930, Wilkinson,Alex wrote:
 I have seen these errors before. It has to do with Electro Magnetic Interference 
 (noise).
 Try using different ribbons (ATA33) and see if the errors disappear.
 
  - aW


It can also have to do with dying drives and/or controllers, as well as bad 
cables.

Josh Paetzel
 
 
   ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
retrying
   ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
retrying
   ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
retrying
   ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
 
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UDMA

2003-03-28 Thread CARTER Anthony
From dmesg I get the following:

ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938


I found in the troubleshooting faq information about this, but I have checked 
everything it says and i still get this during boot. The cables are fine, the 
drive is capable etc. I want it to use DMA and not PIO, what am I doing 
wrong?

Anthony Carter
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Re: UDMA

2003-03-28 Thread Peter Elsner
What is the BIOS set to use?

At 01:49 PM 3/28/2003 +0100, you wrote:
From dmesg I get the following:

ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
 retrying
ad0: UDMA ICRC error cmd=read fsbn 61731938
I found in the troubleshooting faq information about this, but I have checked
everything it says and i still get this during boot. The cables are fine, the
drive is capable etc. I want it to use DMA and not PIO, what am I doing
wrong?
Anthony Carter
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UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn (Possible Fix)

2003-02-25 Thread Rob Clark
ISSUE: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn in dmesg and /var/log/messages

$ dmesg
...
FreeBSD 4.7-STABLE #0: Tue Feb 20 22:06:43 EST 2003
... 
 ICRC error reading fsbn 257696511 of 128848224-128848479
(ad1s1 bn 257696511; cn 16040 tn 220 sn 51) retrying
ad1s1e: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 6803007 of 3401472-3401727
(ad1s1 bn 6803007; cn 423 tn 119 sn 15) retrying
...

After adding a Seagate 80GB Barracuda IDE (ad1s1e) hard drive recently I began
to notice the above errors in dmesg and /var/log/messages.  After reading
posts and researching I did some testing with transferring files using
both cp and mv on:

/dev/ad1s1e

results were sporadic at best, sometimes producing the errors and sometimes not.
Believing this to be a cabling issue, I replaced the new IDE 80wire/40pin
another 80wire/40pin IDE cable only to receive even more errors of this type. 
After shutting down, reopening the box, and staring blank-facedly at the
motherboard and cables I remembered what an old hardware guru suggested once
when adding additional hard drives,

Run the IDE cable to from the controller to the interim connector
(master drive) to the end connector (slave drive).

i.e., (diagram 1)
|---IDE 80 WIRE CABLE--|
::---::-::
controller   interim connector  end connector
MOTHERBOARDMASTER DRIVE  SLAVE DRIVE
(My Seagate 80GB)

I figured it couldn't be that easy.  I tried to find some info on this using
google, of course there were differing opinions on the subject. One argument
suggests that the drives will fight for bandwidth, so the logic suggested here
seems correct. 

Before this, I had the drives reversed and in the order of:
(diagram 2)
|-ide cable--|
controller---slave---master
  (Seagate 80G)
repeating this with other cables gave same type of error messages.


Following diagram 1 above I used the original IDE cable, this seems to have
solved the problem. 5 days later still no error messages.  So it seems this
is a possible fix to this issue. Outside my bad diagrams,
I figured this might just be worth a try to others having similar issues.
All opinions and any additional information on this topic are welcome.

Regards,
Rob Clark


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kernel: ad3s1e: UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn

2003-01-17 Thread stan
 just put a new drive in service as an Amanda dumpdisk, and I'm fetting
 console messages like this:

 kernel: ad3s1e: UDMA ICRC error writing fsbn

 Is the drive bad? Or the controler?

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UDMA on Via 686B

2002-12-13 Thread Josh Litherland
Found some references to a Via south bridge causing ICRC
errors and dropping UDMA-PIO a while back.  Is there a fix
for this issue ?  I'm still seeing it as of 4.7-Release
Generic kernel, on known good drives, cables, and mobos.

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UDMA ICRC error's

2002-11-12 Thread Ed McGough
What is the best way to resolve these?

 ad0s1e: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 897759 of 144-159 (ad0s1 bn 897759;
cn 55 tn 225 sn 9) retrying
 ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 45439 of 22688-22719 (ad0s1 bn 45439;
cn 2 tn 211 sn 16) retrying
 ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 39391 of 19664-19695 (ad0s1 bn 39391;
cn 2 tn 115 sn 16) retrying
 ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 39391 of 19664-19695 (ad0s1 bn 39391;
cn 2 tn 115 sn 16) retrying


I've tried bringing the system down to single user mode, umounting the
filesystems and running fsck but it never finds anything wrong.  Next I'm
going to switch out the ide cable, and i'm hoping that is the problem as I'd
prefer not to have my drive go out.

What else can I do besides running fsck?  Are there any other utilites to
check the disk, maybe something from the ports tree?

Thanks,

Ed


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Re: UDMA ICRC error's

2002-11-12 Thread Cliff Sarginson
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:23:57PM -0600, Ed McGough wrote:
 What is the best way to resolve these?
 
  ad0s1e: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 897759 of 144-159 (ad0s1 bn 897759;
 cn 55 tn 225 sn 9) retrying
  ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 45439 of 22688-22719 (ad0s1 bn 45439;
 cn 2 tn 211 sn 16) retrying
  ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 39391 of 19664-19695 (ad0s1 bn 39391;
 cn 2 tn 115 sn 16) retrying
  ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 39391 of 19664-19695 (ad0s1 bn 39391;
 cn 2 tn 115 sn 16) retrying
 
 What else can I do besides running fsck?  Are there any other utilites to
 check the disk, maybe something from the ports tree?
 
Most (all?) disk manafacturers have free diagnostic programs you can
download from their websites. Take a look 

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RE: UDMA ICRC error's

2002-11-12 Thread KizerSoze
I already tried that...its a Maxtor drive and the utilites that they have
only run on the Microsoft platform.  The utility is too large to fit on a
bootable ms-dos floppy and that won't work anyways as it says not to run it
in 16 bit dos mode.

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On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 01:23:57PM -0600, Ed McGough wrote:
 What is the best way to resolve these?

  ad0s1e: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 897759 of 144-159 (ad0s1 bn 897759;
 cn 55 tn 225 sn 9) retrying
  ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 45439 of 22688-22719 (ad0s1 bn
45439;
 cn 2 tn 211 sn 16) retrying
  ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 39391 of 19664-19695 (ad0s1 bn
39391;
 cn 2 tn 115 sn 16) retrying
  ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 39391 of 19664-19695 (ad0s1 bn
39391;
 cn 2 tn 115 sn 16) retrying

 What else can I do besides running fsck?  Are there any other utilites to
 check the disk, maybe something from the ports tree?

Most (all?) disk manafacturers have free diagnostic programs you can
download from their websites. Take a look 

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Re: UDMA ICRC error's

2002-11-12 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 12), Ed McGough said:
 What is the best way to resolve these?
  ad0s1e: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 897759 of 144-159 (ad0s1 bn 897759; cn 55 tn 
225 sn 9) retrying
  ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 45439 of 22688-22719 (ad0s1 bn 45439; cn 2 tn 
211 sn 16) retrying
  ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 39391 of 19664-19695 (ad0s1 bn 39391; cn 2 tn 
115 sn 16) retrying
  ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 39391 of 19664-19695 (ad0s1 bn 39391; cn 2 tn 
115 sn 16) retrying
 
 I've tried bringing the system down to single user mode, umounting
 the filesystems and running fsck but it never finds anything wrong. 
 Next I'm going to switch out the ide cable, and i'm hoping that is
 the problem as I'd prefer not to have my drive go out.
 
 What else can I do besides running fsck?  Are there any other
 utilites to check the disk, maybe something from the ports tree?

An ICRC error means that the data was corrupted between the drive and
the controller, and usually means cabling problems.

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Re: UDMA ICRC error's

2002-11-12 Thread BigBrother (BigB3)
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What is the best way to resolve these?

 ad0s1e: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 897759 of 144-159 (ad0s1 bn 897759;
cn 55 tn 225 sn 9) retrying
 ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 45439 of 22688-22719 (ad0s1 bn
45439;
cn 2 tn 211 sn 16) retrying
 ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 39391 of 19664-19695 (ad0s1 bn
39391;
cn 2 tn 115 sn 16) retrying
 ad0s1a: UDMA ICRC error reading fsbn 39391 of 19664-19695 (ad0s1 bn
39391;
cn 2 tn 115 sn 16) retrying
I've tried bringing the system down to single user mode, umounting the
filesystems and running fsck but it never finds anything wrong.  Next I'm
going to switch out the ide cable, and i'm hoping that is the problem as
I'd
prefer not to have my drive go out.

What else can I do besides running fsck?  Are there any other utilites to
check the disk, maybe something from the ports tree?



I would suggest to run badsect (8) so u can mark the sector as bad,
unreadable
and thus u can continue accessing ur drive.


Of course in the badsect you have to put sectors and not fsbn, and I dont
know in your error message how u can find the sector number...(anyone can
help on this?)

perhaps the sectors for example are 144-159 ? But I dont know...

Perhaps u should try to find out the 'fsdb' tool...but it will be a
tricky thing..


Any help is appreciated...


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Re: UDMA limited to 33 - resolution

2002-10-25 Thread Linh Pham
On 2002-10-23, Kevin Stevens scribbled:

# However, it *is* correct that all devices on a UDMA channel must support
# UDMA, so yes, the above is a problem.  I don't recall if all devices must
# also be the same UDMA speed (66/100/133) or not, bbelieve that is true
# too.  This is not a BSD issue, it is part of the UDMA spec.

IIRC-

The channel will run at the speed of the slowest device, meaning that if
you have a drive that is capable of ATA/66 and a drive capable of ATA/33
on the same channel, then the channel will run at ATA/33.

If you have a drive at ATA/100 and a drive that is only capable of PIO4,
then the speed of the channel will be knocked down to either PIO4 or
ATA/33 (the latter will only occur if the PIO4 drive is also capable to
running at ATA/33, just without DMA).

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Re: UDMA limited to 33 - resolution

2002-10-25 Thread Linh Pham
On 2002-10-23, lewiz scribbled:

#   Afaik, UDMA100 is only supported if there is just one device on the
# channel.  Feel free to shoot me if I am incorrect, which is quite
# possible.  Just double-check by asking Google or something - but I have
# a gut feeling this may be the case.

You should be able to run two devices at ATA/100 speeds on the same
channel provided that you are using a cable within the ATA/100 specs
(i.e.: 40-pin/80-conductor, the cable length is about 18 or less, etc.)
and that both drives are capable and set to run at ATA/100.

Of course, you run into the issue that both drives cannot send data
across the channel at once... so you won't gain any performance by doing
that. It's just the limitation of ATA (and the reason why Serial ATA
only allows one device per host connector, and why higher-end ATA RAID
controllers have so many channels and only allow one device per
channel).

HTH

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Re: UDMA limited to 33 - resolution

2002-10-25 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 09:47 AM 10.25.2002 -0700, Linh Pham wrote:
On 2002-10-23, Kevin Stevens scribbled:

# However, it *is* correct that all devices on a UDMA channel must support
# UDMA, so yes, the above is a problem.  I don't recall if all devices must
# also be the same UDMA speed (66/100/133) or not, bbelieve that is true
# too.  This is not a BSD issue, it is part of the UDMA spec.

IIRC-

The channel will run at the speed of the slowest device, meaning that if
you have a drive that is capable of ATA/66 and a drive capable of ATA/33
on the same channel, then the channel will run at ATA/33.

If you have a drive at ATA/100 and a drive that is only capable of PIO4,
then the speed of the channel will be knocked down to either PIO4 or
ATA/33 (the latter will only occur if the PIO4 drive is also capable to
running at ATA/33, just without DMA).

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Well, then what does the jumper settings on modern drives for Master with
non-ATA compatible sleave mean in regard to the above speed limits...???

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