Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Masoom Shaikh
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi le...@k1.com.br wrote:

 Hello,

 I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
 full support for cups.

 If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
 tinderbox.

please do that


 I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as
 with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package

if it is, it is because of people like you, thanks Sergio


  Thanks for your attention,


 Sergio
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OOo just does not make sense to compile from source unless development
environment is needed. I compiled it last time and it took so long
that I felt I have wasted my time and computing power for almost same
result as pkg_add of pre-built binaries.
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
2009/6/2 Masoom Shaikh masoom.sha...@gmail.com:
 On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:36 AM, Sergio de Almeida Lenzi le...@k1.com.br 
 wrote:

 Hello,

 I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
 full support for cups.

 If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
 tinderbox.

 please do that


 I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as
 with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package

 if it is, it is because of people like you, thanks Sergio


  Thanks for your attention,


 Sergio
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 OOo just does not make sense to compile from source unless development
 environment is needed. I compiled it last time and it took so long
 that I felt I have wasted my time and computing power for almost same
 result as pkg_add of pre-built binaries.

Couldn't agree more. You know it's like that when even the Gentoo
people have a binary package for it ;)

Chris



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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote:
 Hello,

 I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
 full support for cups.

 If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
 tinderbox.

 I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as 
 with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package

  Thanks for your attention,


 Sergio
   

Thank you Sergio!
I currently don't have a suitable machine to run 64bit package builds,
so my packages are currently limited to the i386 versions.
If you have enough space and bandwidth to upload this somewhere please
do. Otherwise, hopefully Glen Barber may be able to assist ;)


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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
full support for cups.

If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
tinderbox.

I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as
with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package


I don't understand why it's ahead, or behind or whatever.
Just good you made read to use openoffice binary package.

Those who needs openoffice program will say thanks. Those who rarely needs
openoffice will say too - including me. thanks!
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, June 02, 2009 a las 12:52:50PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar escribió:

 I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
 full support for cups.
 
 If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
 tinderbox.
 
 I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as
 with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package
 
 I don't understand why it's ahead, or behind or whatever.
 Just good you made read to use openoffice binary package.
 
 Those who needs openoffice program will say thanks. Those who rarely needs
 openoffice will say too - including me. thanks!

I'd like to give this a try as well on 8-CURRENT; for the moment I have
my own compiled from the ports as:

$ pkg_info | fgrep openoffice
es-openoffice.org-3.2.20090412 Integrated 
wordprocessor/dbase/spreadsheet/drawing/chart/br

which works fine, but on quit it crashes while closing the display,
which could also be a bug in X11 libs or even in CURRENT; that's why I'd
like to try it with your pkg;

matthias
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Zbigniew Komarnicki
On Tuesday 02 of June 2009 13:01:26 Matthias Apitz wrote:

 which works fine, but on quit it crashes while closing the display,
...

I have also this same problem on i386. When closing OO then it produce core 
file.
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Wojciech Puchar

On Tuesday 02 of June 2009 13:01:26 Matthias Apitz wrote:


which works fine, but on quit it crashes while closing the display,

...

I have also this same problem on i386. When closing OO then it produce core
file.

ulimit -c 0
:)

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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-02 Thread Glen Barber
Hi guys,

2009/6/2 Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr:
 Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote:
 Hello,

 I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
 available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
 full support for cups.

 If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
 tinderbox.

 I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as
 with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package

  Thanks for your attention,


 Sergio


 Thank you Sergio!
 I currently don't have a suitable machine to run 64bit package builds,
 so my packages are currently limited to the i386 versions.
 If you have enough space and bandwidth to upload this somewhere please
 do. Otherwise, hopefully Glen Barber may be able to assist ;)



Sergio,

If you need space to host the packages, email me off-list.

Regards,

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openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-06-01 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Hello,

I have the package for openoffice 3.2m49 for the FreeBSD 7.2/amd64
available for the languages EN and pt_BR in UTF-8, with
full support for cups.

If you are interested, I can upload the package (120Mb) in the
tinderbox.

I think it is interesting for the FreeBSD community, as 
with this port, FreeBSD is much ahead then the Linux office package

 Thanks for your attention,


Sergio
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-04-12 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Manolis Kiagias wrote:


Sure.  I'll do a test run with XFCE and we can discuss details afterwards.






That's great, look forward to the results

Chris
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-04-11 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Chris Whitehouse wrote:

 Hi guys,

 When you have a minute please would you have a look at a proposal for
 changes to the packages system I posted which is kind of a ports
 equivalent of freebsd-update involving a 'ports-snapshot'.

 The original post is here

 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/195793.html.


 A more detailed description is here

 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/196223.html


 And other peoples comments in between.

 It's going a bit parallel to the discussion here and in fact you have
 already offered some of the requirements,ie hosting

 Would you be interested in incorporating the idea into what you are
 doing? I could at least do some building of packages.

 One of the requirements is a new package management tool which I've
 called ports-update. Does anyone here have C or scripting skills who
 would be interested to write it? I'm sorry to ask, I know the FreeBSD
 way is to do it yourself, but I don't have programming skills. I could
 probably knock up a framework to start from though.

 If you are prepared to host a bunch of packages it would be
 interesting to ask people to give us a list of their installed
 packages to create a master list.

 Thanks

 Chris


I am following this discussion too.
I was actually thinking of some less drastic method to make a FreeBSD
desktop easier to build and less time consuming.
Currently there are at least two projects based on FreeBSD that offer
reasonable BSD desktops without lots of manual setup: DesktopBSD and
PC-BSD (PC-BSD actually had a version release yesterday).  The problem
is both projects focus on KDE. I would like to have a choice between
XFCE, Gnome and possibly some light WMs i.e. fluxbox.

I like to build my own packages, and have put together a spare machine
just for this purpose. It is no speed daemon (P4 2.5Ghz, 2G DDR2 RAM)
but it is stable and always available. What I intend to do - and I am
close to this - is start building package CDs (or DVDs) that people can
download and use in the following way:

- Perform a base install of FreeBSD with *no* additional packages
(except maybe the linux binary compatibility)
- Insert the CD/DVD and run a dialog(1) based sh script with options to:
- Install packages
- Configure X and DE / WM
- Configure shell (i.e. startup files etc)
- Configure sound card
(and more)

All these packages would be build from the same ports tree so they would
be in sync. There should be regular (bimonthly?) updates to the CD
itself.  Everyone building a new system can use the latest CD, and
anyone who installed a system using a previous version could use the
same CD with portupgrade -PP (after setting PKG_PATH, PKG_FETCH etc).
This can actually be one of the menu options.

Taking this one step further (using your ideas), I could also distribute
the ports tree (and probably /var/db/ports assuming the ports do not use
default options) along with the packages, so anyone wishing to compile
more stuff could use this same tree knowing it will be in sync.

I intend to build a prototype of this soon. It will contain XFCE,
firefox, thunderbird, vlc, bash, openoffice, Xorg and few more
packages.  If it generates enough interest in the community, we will
then decide the final set of packages etc for the regular releases.


 
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-04-11 Thread perryh
Manolis Kiagias sonic200...@gmail.com wrote:
 I could also distribute the ports tree ...

I wonder if it's necessary to distribute the entire ports tree.
Perhaps it would suffice to distribute a timestamp for csup/cvsup
to retrieve the appropriate version.
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-04-11 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Manolis Kiagias wrote:

Chris Whitehouse wrote:

Hi guys,

When you have a minute please would you have a look at a proposal for
changes to the packages system I posted which is kind of a ports
equivalent of freebsd-update involving a 'ports-snapshot'.

The original post is here

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/195793.html.


A more detailed description is here

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/196223.html


And other peoples comments in between.

It's going a bit parallel to the discussion here and in fact you have
already offered some of the requirements,ie hosting

Would you be interested in incorporating the idea into what you are
doing? I could at least do some building of packages.

One of the requirements is a new package management tool which I've
called ports-update. Does anyone here have C or scripting skills who
would be interested to write it? I'm sorry to ask, I know the FreeBSD
way is to do it yourself, but I don't have programming skills. I could
probably knock up a framework to start from though.

If you are prepared to host a bunch of packages it would be
interesting to ask people to give us a list of their installed
packages to create a master list.

Thanks

Chris



I am following this discussion too.
I was actually thinking of some less drastic method to make a FreeBSD
desktop easier to build and less time consuming.
Currently there are at least two projects based on FreeBSD that offer
reasonable BSD desktops without lots of manual setup: DesktopBSD and
PC-BSD (PC-BSD actually had a version release yesterday).  The problem
is both projects focus on KDE. I would like to have a choice between
XFCE, Gnome and possibly some light WMs i.e. fluxbox.


My motivation also, plus energy considerations. I was rolling my own
using icewm but have recently been using PCBSD. I like PCBSD very much 
but I would go back to my previous setup with this project.




I like to build my own packages, and have put together a spare machine


Are you using the tinderbox port or do you build in the machines own 
environment?



just for this purpose. It is no speed daemon (P4 2.5Ghz, 2G DDR2 RAM)
but it is stable and always available. What I intend to do - and I am
close to this - is start building package CDs (or DVDs) that people can
download and use in the following way:

Would each CD contain all the available packages or do you have some 
idea to only distribute changed packages?



- Perform a base install of FreeBSD with *no* additional packages
(except maybe the linux binary compatibility)
- Insert the CD/DVD and run a dialog(1) based sh script with options to:
- Install packages
- Configure X and DE / WM
- Configure shell (i.e. startup files etc)
- Configure sound card
(and more)

All these packages would be build from the same ports tree so they would
be in sync. There should be regular (bimonthly?) updates to the CD
itself.  Everyone building a new system can use the latest CD, and
anyone who installed a system using a previous version could use the
same CD with portupgrade -PP (after setting PKG_PATH, PKG_FETCH etc).
This can actually be one of the menu options.

Taking this one step further (using your ideas), I could also distribute
the ports tree (and probably /var/db/ports assuming the ports do not use
default options) along with the packages, so anyone wishing to compile
more stuff could use this same tree knowing it will be in sync.


This achieves pretty much exactly what I was hoping for! Fantastic. I 
had assumed default

configs though because I imagine the ports people have reasons for
choosing them.


I intend to build a prototype of this soon. It will contain XFCE,
firefox, thunderbird, vlc, bash, openoffice, Xorg and few more
packages.  If it generates enough interest in the community, we will
then decide the final set of packages etc for the regular releases.


Exactly. gnome and kde?

Glen, I was replying to your post when Manolis's came but this has the 
answers.


Chris



 




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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-04-11 Thread Manolis Kiagias
per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:
 Manolis Kiagias sonic200...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 I could also distribute the ports tree ...
 

 I wonder if it's necessary to distribute the entire ports tree.
 Perhaps it would suffice to distribute a timestamp for csup/cvsup
 to retrieve the appropriate version.

   
Yes, this is probably correct :)
However distributing a compressed ports tree in the CD (without the
distfiles) won't be much of a problem space-wise.
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-04-11 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Chris Whitehouse wrote:

 I am following this discussion too.
 I was actually thinking of some less drastic method to make a FreeBSD
 desktop easier to build and less time consuming.
 Currently there are at least two projects based on FreeBSD that offer
 reasonable BSD desktops without lots of manual setup: DesktopBSD and
 PC-BSD (PC-BSD actually had a version release yesterday).  The problem
 is both projects focus on KDE. I would like to have a choice between
 XFCE, Gnome and possibly some light WMs i.e. fluxbox.

 My motivation also, plus energy considerations. I was rolling my own
 using icewm but have recently been using PCBSD. I like PCBSD very much
 but I would go back to my previous setup with this project.


 I like to build my own packages, and have put together a spare machine

 Are you using the tinderbox port or do you build in the machines own
 environment?

I am using ports-mgmt/tinderbox
In the past I was using a simple setup: I would install the ports,
create the packages with pkg_create and then delete /usr/local and restart.

 just for this purpose. It is no speed daemon (P4 2.5Ghz, 2G DDR2 RAM)
 but it is stable and always available. What I intend to do - and I am
 close to this - is start building package CDs (or DVDs) that people can
 download and use in the following way:

 Would each CD contain all the available packages or do you have some
 idea to only distribute changed packages?

The purpose is for every CD to be self contained so it can be used for
clean installs.
Creating incremental CDs would be fairly easy, but will increase the
number of CDs to carry around.


 - Perform a base install of FreeBSD with *no* additional packages
 (except maybe the linux binary compatibility)
 - Insert the CD/DVD and run a dialog(1) based sh script with options to:
 - Install packages
 - Configure X and DE / WM
 - Configure shell (i.e. startup files etc)
 - Configure sound card
 (and more)

 All these packages would be build from the same ports tree so they would
 be in sync. There should be regular (bimonthly?) updates to the CD
 itself.  Everyone building a new system can use the latest CD, and
 anyone who installed a system using a previous version could use the
 same CD with portupgrade -PP (after setting PKG_PATH, PKG_FETCH etc).
 This can actually be one of the menu options.

 Taking this one step further (using your ideas), I could also distribute
 the ports tree (and probably /var/db/ports assuming the ports do not use
 default options) along with the packages, so anyone wishing to compile
 more stuff could use this same tree knowing it will be in sync.

 This achieves pretty much exactly what I was hoping for! Fantastic. I
 had assumed default
 configs though because I imagine the ports people have reasons for
 choosing them.

Yes, default configs would probably be best when redistributing to lots
of people.


 I intend to build a prototype of this soon. It will contain XFCE,
 firefox, thunderbird, vlc, bash, openoffice, Xorg and few more
 packages.  If it generates enough interest in the community, we will
 then decide the final set of packages etc for the regular releases.

 Exactly. gnome and kde?

Sure.  I'll do a test run with XFCE and we can discuss details afterwards.

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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-04-10 Thread Chris Whitehouse

Glen Barber wrote:

Manolis,

Thanks again for taking the time for this.

[snip]


The site does not yet contain any other pages or info, as Glen is still
working on the web content.

Please send us your feedback (including problems, suggestions and
success stories!) either on the list or directly.  If this proves to be
successful, we could also build and host other packages as well.




Any problems with the site, please contact me so I can notify my
hosting provider, as I don't have physical access to the server.


Thanks!




Hi guys,

When you have a minute please would you have a look at a proposal for 
changes to the packages system I posted which is kind of a ports 
equivalent of freebsd-update involving a 'ports-snapshot'.


The original post is here

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/195793.html.

A more detailed description is here

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/196223.html

And other peoples comments in between.

It's going a bit parallel to the discussion here and in fact you have 
already offered some of the requirements,ie hosting


Would you be interested in incorporating the idea into what you are 
doing? I could at least do some building of packages.


One of the requirements is a new package management tool which I've 
called ports-update. Does anyone here have C or scripting skills who 
would be interested to write it? I'm sorry to ask, I know the FreeBSD 
way is to do it yourself, but I don't have programming skills. I could 
probably knock up a framework to start from though.


If you are prepared to host a bunch of packages it would be interesting 
to ask people to give us a list of their installed packages to create a 
master list.


Thanks

Chris

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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-04-10 Thread Glen Barber
Hi, Chris.

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:29 PM, Chris Whitehouse cwhi...@onetel.com wrote:

 When you have a minute please would you have a look at a proposal for
 changes to the packages system I posted which is kind of a ports equivalent
 of freebsd-update involving a 'ports-snapshot'.


[snip]

I actually have been watching that thread.  I am intrigued by what you
are trying to do, but I think it's veering into the difficult to
maintain territory.


 It's going a bit parallel to the discussion here and in fact you have
 already offered some of the requirements,ie hosting

 Would you be interested in incorporating the idea into what you are doing? I
 could at least do some building of packages.


What specifically do you have in mind?  A side project to the
FreeBSD pkg_add(1) tool or a separate collection of the Makefiles for
the ports tree?

 One of the requirements is a new package management tool which I've called
 ports-update. Does anyone here have C or scripting skills who would be
 interested to write it? I'm sorry to ask, I know the FreeBSD way is to do it
 yourself, but I don't have programming skills. I could probably knock up a
 framework to start from though.


I have (very little) C skills -- I'm an OOP guy.  I have less skill
with shell scripting.  Either way, between ${REAL_JOB} and
${UNIVERSITY}, my free time is ... well... usually, not free.

 If you are prepared to host a bunch of packages it would be interesting to
 ask people to give us a list of their installed packages to create a master
 list.


I'm more than happy to create space for this type of project, but keep
in mind -- the pkg_add(1) tool will grab binary builds of software
from the ports tree that is usually built with default options.  What
about that one user that wants -DNO_NETHACK for sysutils/screen, or
the user (me) that has no need for IPv6 options enabled for most
things?  This seems like an exact mirror of pkg_add(1) in how it
works, and IMHO would be impossible to keep a current (let alone
versioned) collection of packages with every possible compile-time
option.

Of course, unless I am misunderstanding your intentions.

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openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-04-07 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Inspired by the recent discussion on the list concerning
openoffice.org-3.01 packages, I have created a set of packages for the
i386 architecture using my tinderbox system. Glen Barber has kindly
offered *lots* of his webspace to host these packages for everyone's
benefit.

These packages are available from the following location:

http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/

And the main package to download would be:

http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/openoffice.org-3.0.1.tbz

All the other packages are build and/or run dependencies of the above. 
On a system that already has a running GUI, most (if not all) of these
packages are probably installed already.

Please note the following:

* The openoffice.org-3.01 package was built using a tinderbox system
running 7.1-RELEASE-p4 i386. The ports tree was updated before the
build. As a result this package is in sync with the latest versions of
its dependencies and you may have trouble installing / running it in
systems with outdated packages. A portupgrade is recommended before
installation.

* All the dependencies are provided in the same directory.  It is
possible to use pkg_add -r to recursively fetch any dependencies not
present in your system:

- First, redefince the PACKAGESITE environment variable:
(assuming csh)

setenv PACKAGESITE http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/

- Use pkg_add -r:

pkg_add -r openoffice.org-3.0.1.tbz

* The package and all dependencies were built with default options.

The site does not yet contain any other pages or info, as Glen is still
working on the web content.

Please send us your feedback (including problems, suggestions and
success stories!) either on the list or directly.  If this proves to be
successful, we could also build and host other packages as well.

Cheers,
Manolis
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Re: openoffice.org-3.01 packages available (i386)

2009-04-07 Thread Glen Barber
Manolis,

Thanks again for taking the time for this.

[snip]


 The site does not yet contain any other pages or info, as Glen is still
 working on the web content.

 Please send us your feedback (including problems, suggestions and
 success stories!) either on the list or directly.  If this proves to be
 successful, we could also build and host other packages as well.



Any problems with the site, please contact me so I can notify my
hosting provider, as I don't have physical access to the server.


Thanks!

-- 
Glen Barber
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