Re: Home Server

2012-11-22 Thread Michel Le Cocq
Le 21/11/2012 18:23, Matthew Seaman a écrit :
 On 21/11/2012 17:02, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
 In fact, if you're going to use ZFS at all, I'd suggest using it for all
 your filesystems on that machine.

I've a personnal systeme quite similar with 6 drive.
2 - for systeme   : mirror : with incremental snapshots
2 - for real data : mirror : with incremental snapshots
2 - for not so important data : mirror : no snapshot

I use 3 couple of 2 drive because have :
2 : 75G
2 : 750G
2 : 1To

For the future I must change 2 drive at the same time.

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Home Server

2012-11-21 Thread Nicholas MIller
Hi all,

I am looking to re purpose an old system for use as a home server. My
intentions for the server are as follows:

Central backup of other systems.
Storage for Media files(movies/music)
Occasionally transcoding DVDs/blurays
As well as being able to access the backed up files(at least part of them)
over http(s).

My question(s) regard storage.  Depending on which case I end up using or
if i purchase a new one, will have access to either 4(four) or 6(six) hard
drive bays.  The only things I really *need* redundancy for would be the
centralized backups. Which has me leaning towards zfs.  However since I'll
probably want to use some of the space from the drives in that pool, but
won't need redundancy I'm not quite sure how to proceed.


I'm sorry if any of this message is unclear.

Thanks for any assistence


Nick
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Re: Home Server

2012-11-21 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:52:12 -0600
Nicholas MIller nick.k...@gmail.com wrote:

 My question(s) regard storage.  Depending on which case I end up using or
 if i purchase a new one, will have access to either 4(four) or 6(six) hard
 drive bays.  The only things I really *need* redundancy for would be the
 centralized backups. Which has me leaning towards zfs.  However since I'll
 probably want to use some of the space from the drives in that pool, but
 won't need redundancy I'm not quite sure how to proceed.

With that many drive bays, and the low cost of disc space I'd go
for a big ZFS mirror for storage and put just about everything on it. You
might have some data that doesn't need to be mirrored but I'll bet there's
not much that wouldn't be a PITA to lose.

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Re: Home Server

2012-11-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 21/11/2012 17:02, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
 On Wed, 21 Nov 2012 10:52:12 -0600
 Nicholas MIller nick.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My question(s) regard storage.  Depending on which case I end up using or
 if i purchase a new one, will have access to either 4(four) or 6(six) hard
 drive bays.  The only things I really *need* redundancy for would be the
 centralized backups. Which has me leaning towards zfs.  However since I'll
 probably want to use some of the space from the drives in that pool, but
 won't need redundancy I'm not quite sure how to proceed.
 
   With that many drive bays, and the low cost of disc space I'd go
 for a big ZFS mirror for storage and put just about everything on it. You
 might have some data that doesn't need to be mirrored but I'll bet there's
 not much that wouldn't be a PITA to lose.
 

Consider using a RAIDZ rather than a Mirror VDev -- you trade off
essentially low-latency access for small IOs against more available disk
space.  4 drives is OK, but kinda small for a RAIDZ; 6 drives is pretty
much right in the sweet spot.

I'd also counsel against trying to use traditional filesystems and ZFS
in different partitions of the same drive.  ZFS is happiest when it has
complete control of the drive.  You can take a chunk of the drive for
boot code no problem, and using a chunk for swap seems to work pretty
well too.

In fact, if you're going to use ZFS at all, I'd suggest using it for all
your filesystems on that machine.

Cheers,

Matthew




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Re: Best mail setup for home server?

2012-05-06 Thread Jerry
On Sat, 05 May 2012 10:21:10 -0500
Joshua Isom articulated:

I currently use my FreeBSD system as my generic unix server and some 
coding, along with occasional multimedia.  I'd installed postfix years 
ago and kept using it.  Right now, I use getmail with cron, dspam, and 
dovecot to handle my gmail account.  I've never set up outgoing mail 
which makes changing email clients, or devices, annoying.  Currently 
postfix is set to use dovecot's deliver command so that dovecot can
sort and handle it.  Before I deal with setting postfix to relay the
mail, dealing with firewalls and other possible issues, is there a
better alternative?  I'd prefer that local mail just works even if I
lose internet, and any email that gets as far as my server will at
least eventually mail.  The archlinux wiki seems to suggest ssmtp
doesn't work properly with attachments.  Instead it recommends msmtp,
which requires an active internet connection to use.  Dragonfly's dma
is local only to the computer and not the LAN.  Are the only options
configuring sendmail or configuring postfix?

If you only have a dynamic IP, you might want to investigate
something like: http://dyn.com/; or a similar service. Attempting to
send mail from a dynamic IP will usually result in it being marked as
Spam and discarded or just being outright refused by an up-line MTA.

Personally, I would stick with Postfix, obviously the latest version. It
is far easier to configure than Sendmail and you can actually speak
with its author if a problem arises.

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Re: Best mail setup for home server?

2012-05-06 Thread Daniel Staal

--As of May 5, 2012 10:21:10 AM -0500, Joshua Isom is alleged to have said:


I currently use my FreeBSD system as my generic unix server and some
coding, along with occasional multimedia.  I'd installed postfix years
ago and kept using it.  Right now, I use getmail with cron, dspam, and
dovecot to handle my gmail account.  I've never set up outgoing mail
which makes changing email clients, or devices, annoying.  Currently
postfix is set to use dovecot's deliver command so that dovecot can sort
and handle it.  Before I deal with setting postfix to relay the mail,
dealing with firewalls and other possible issues, is there a better
alternative?  I'd prefer that local mail just works even if I lose
internet, and any email that gets as far as my server will at least
eventually mail.


--As for the rest, it is mine.

I've been using Postfix for a decade to do basically this; no major 
problems, and it doesn't take much to set up.  No reason to go to something 
else.  (Even for speed: I've used it for work on a site handling millions 
of messages a day...)


As has been said, a local resolver will help.  The thing to watch for is 
what mail you'll let it accept: It's moderately easy to set it up as an 
open relay, which you *don't* want to do.  Accept from the local network is 
fine; I've never needed to set up authenticated sending from outside that, 
though I keep meaning to when I have some free time...


The dynamic IP problem can be a hassle, and lead to weird losses of mail. 
My solution has just been to call the ISP and get a 'business' line, with a 
static IP, though forwarding to their mail relay would work as well.


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Best mail setup for home server?

2012-05-05 Thread Joshua Isom
I currently use my FreeBSD system as my generic unix server and some 
coding, along with occasional multimedia.  I'd installed postfix years 
ago and kept using it.  Right now, I use getmail with cron, dspam, and 
dovecot to handle my gmail account.  I've never set up outgoing mail 
which makes changing email clients, or devices, annoying.  Currently 
postfix is set to use dovecot's deliver command so that dovecot can sort 
and handle it.  Before I deal with setting postfix to relay the mail, 
dealing with firewalls and other possible issues, is there a better 
alternative?  I'd prefer that local mail just works even if I lose 
internet, and any email that gets as far as my server will at least 
eventually mail.  The archlinux wiki seems to suggest ssmtp doesn't work 
properly with attachments.  Instead it recommends msmtp, which requires 
an active internet connection to use.  Dragonfly's dma is local only to 
the computer and not the LAN.  Are the only options configuring sendmail 
or configuring postfix?

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Re: Best mail setup for home server?

2012-05-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 05/05/2012 16:21, Joshua Isom wrote:
 I currently use my FreeBSD system as my generic unix server and some
 coding, along with occasional multimedia.  I'd installed postfix years
 ago and kept using it.  Right now, I use getmail with cron, dspam, and
 dovecot to handle my gmail account.  I've never set up outgoing mail
 which makes changing email clients, or devices, annoying.  Currently
 postfix is set to use dovecot's deliver command so that dovecot can sort
 and handle it.  Before I deal with setting postfix to relay the mail,
 dealing with firewalls and other possible issues, is there a better
 alternative?  I'd prefer that local mail just works even if I lose
 internet, and any email that gets as far as my server will at least
 eventually mail.  The archlinux wiki seems to suggest ssmtp doesn't work
 properly with attachments.  Instead it recommends msmtp, which requires
 an active internet connection to use.  Dragonfly's dma is local only to
 the computer and not the LAN.  Are the only options configuring sendmail
 or configuring postfix?

Local mail will just work with postfix, but general mail may not work
with the simpler servers like ssmtp or msmtp or dma.  Given you've
already got postfix installed and presumably have gained some
familiarity with it over the time you've been using it, I can't see a
good reason to switch to anything else.

Any e-mail system will have problems if you lose internet connectivity:
e-mail is critically dependent on the DNS, and if your MTA cannot lookup
the data it needs, it is not going to get very far.  Ideally it should
just queue the mail to be dealt with as soon as connectivity improves --
a good MTA like postfix should do this as standard, although you might
find it a good idea to run an instance of named as a local recursive
resolver.

There are some alternative MTAs to postfix (such as sendmail or exim),
but given this is for personal use and presumably won't be handling all
that much e-mail in any case, any of them would do the job admirably,
and you main criterion for choosing which to use should be which one you
know best.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Best mail setup for home server?

2012-05-05 Thread Erik Nørgaard

On 05/05/2012 17:21, Joshua Isom wrote:


Before I deal with setting postfix to relay the mail,
dealing with firewalls and other possible issues, is there a better
alternative?


postfix will do the job, it just works, local mail will continue to just 
work. There are alternatives like qmail and sendmail, but why bother if 
you're already familiar with postfix?


The issues you will have will likely be the same regardless of your 
choice of MTA: Relaying mail through your server may cause outgoing mail 
to end up in recipients spambox, that at least if your MTA will send 
directly to the recipient mail server and not relay through, say, your 
google account.


I don't know if you can set postfix up to relay through gmail using your 
google account, or if it is a good idea - you have to configure it with 
your password and in plaintext I suppose.


But, is this the solution? It sounds like you've got an overly 
complicated setup. If you use a mail client you can configure multiple 
accounts, download messages for offline use etc. A mail client like 
Thunderbird will queue your mail if the smtp server cannot be reached. 
Consider the issues you otherwise will have when you're away and can't 
reach your server.


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Re: Best mail setup for home server?

2012-05-05 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 05 May 2012 10:21:10 -0500, Joshua Isom wrote:
 I currently use my FreeBSD system as my generic unix server and some 
 coding, along with occasional multimedia.  I'd installed postfix years 
 ago and kept using it.  Right now, I use getmail with cron, dspam, and 
 dovecot to handle my gmail account.  I've never set up outgoing mail 
 which makes changing email clients, or devices, annoying.  Currently 
 postfix is set to use dovecot's deliver command so that dovecot can sort 
 and handle it.  Before I deal with setting postfix to relay the mail, 
 dealing with firewalls and other possible issues, is there a better 
 alternative?  I'd prefer that local mail just works even if I lose 
 internet, and any email that gets as far as my server will at least 
 eventually mail.  The archlinux wiki seems to suggest ssmtp doesn't work 
 properly with attachments.  Instead it recommends msmtp, which requires 
 an active internet connection to use.  Dragonfly's dma is local only to 
 the computer and not the LAN.  Are the only options configuring sendmail 
 or configuring postfix?

As it has been explained already, home _server_ in regards
of e-mail makes certain assumption on what you _should_ do.
Since dynamic IPs have become the main source of spam (and
spam the main amount of e-mails transferred), sending from
a dynmic IP might fail due to mail servers refusing to talk
to your box. Furthermore, connection might drop is also
a bad idea for a server. If problems in mail transmission
occur on the way, notifications will be addressed to your
server, and if it's currently not reachable, a problem for
the other mail server arises, maybe even in blacklisting
your machine.

I've had a comparable solution when I was at university,
behind a static IP: directly sending mail was no problem,
and for receiving I did use fetchmail. That combination
made me fully independent in choice of MUAs (and when paying
attention to local storage formats, they all could work on
the same mail data). I've been using an external server
for actually hosting the mailbox (emptied by POP), so
_that_ functionality (receiving messages on my _own_
system) was not in my scope at that time. However, with
proper masquerading _any_ MUA could send to localhost,
and even ls /some/stuff | mail -s stuff b...@example.com
was possible.

After moving, I only had dynamic IP, resulting in the
observation that my setup didn't work for _some_ targets
anymore, as they refused to accept messages from dynamic
IPs. So I reconfigured sendmail to just send the messages
to my ISP's MX. That mail relay _has_ a static IP. The
downside: You won't be able to control the arrival of your
messages; only successfully transmitted to relay will
be in the logs. You can see advantages and disadvantages
in this approach: local storage, requirement for permanent
and reversable connection (proper DNS records highly
suggested!) and being tied to ISP's MX.

Maybe you should rething your operations ideas with the
suggestions given on the list. There are some things to
consider, but what you're basically planning is possible
without much trouble, as long as you pay attention to
the protocol. :-)



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Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Drew Jenkins
20Hi;
I'm building a server at home to mimic my live server. The instructions require 
that I gather the following information: 
* IP address
* IP address of default gateway
* Hostname
* DNS server IP address
* Subnet Mask
Now, I think I can use 192.168.0.1 as my IP address, since that calls up my 
satellite interface. I've tried running ipconfig /all from the run command 
in Windoze, but it flashes the results so quickly then disappears that I don't 
have a chance to read the results! How do I get this information? Is there a 
Web site that can read my config? Or, what's a good guess at the defaults that 
would work for my satellite interface (which would be better, in case my data 
isn't static)? Also, where do I go in FBSD to edit the config so I can access 
the net?
TIA.
Drew




 

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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Nagy László Zsolt

Drew Jenkins írta:

20Hi;
I'm building a server at home to mimic my live server. The instructions require that I gather the following information: 
* IP address

* IP address of default gateway
* Hostname
* DNS server IP address
* Subnet Mask
Now, I think I can use 192.168.0.1 as my IP address, since that calls up my satellite interface. I've tried running ipconfig /all from the run command in Windoze, but it flashes the results so quickly then disappears that I don't have a chance to read the results! How do I get this information? 

Start menu/Run
cmd
There you will get a win32 console where you can type in

ipconfig /all

However, I do not understand what you are trying to do.

Is there a Web site that can read my config? Or, what's a good guess at the defaults that would work for my satellite interface (which would be better, in case my data isn't static)? 

Probably your interface uses DHCP. You should type in

/sbin/sysinstall

and then configure your network interface. Another way to do it is to 
edit /etc/rc.conf, but you look like a newbie to me. After configuring 
with sysinstall, you can look at /etc/rc.conf and see what is in there.


Best,

  Laszlo

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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Joe Holden

Drew Jenkins wrote:

20Hi;
I'm building a server at home to mimic my live server. The instructions require that I gather the following information: 
* IP address

* IP address of default gateway
* Hostname
* DNS server IP address
* Subnet Mask
Now, I think I can use 192.168.0.1 as my IP address, since that calls up my satellite interface. 
I've tried running ipconfig /all from the run command in Windoze, but it 
flashes the results so quickly then disappears that I don't have a chance to read the results! How 
do I get this information? Is there a Web site that can read my config? Or, what's a good guess at 
the defaults that would work for my satellite interface (which would be better, in case my data 
isn't static)? Also, where do I go in FBSD to edit the config so I can access the net?
TIA.
Drew



You could try opening a command prompt (cmd/command in run) and running 
it, that way it won't close after it exits.

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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread John Cruz

Open the command prompt in windows first, then run ipconfig.

Drew Jenkins wrote:

20Hi;
I'm building a server at home to mimic my live server. The instructions require that I gather the following information: 
* IP address

* IP address of default gateway
* Hostname
* DNS server IP address
* Subnet Mask
Now, I think I can use 192.168.0.1 as my IP address, since that calls up my satellite interface. 
I've tried running ipconfig /all from the run command in Windoze, but it 
flashes the results so quickly then disappears that I don't have a chance to read the results! How 
do I get this information? Is there a Web site that can read my config? Or, what's a good guess at 
the defaults that would work for my satellite interface (which would be better, in case my data 
isn't static)? Also, where do I go in FBSD to edit the config so I can access the net?
TIA.
Drew





 

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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Drew Jenkins
Start menu/Run
cmd
There you will get a win32 console where you can type in

ipconfig /all

Miscommunication. I *did* that. It pops up the info I need on the screen so 
fast then the screen disappears...I never have a chance to read the info!! What 
do??

Also, I found this info on a Web page built into my satellite interface:

IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.225.0
NAT IP Address: 67.46.93.3
NAT Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.255

So, now I've got the IP address and the subnet mask, but I still need to find 
out the IP address of the default gateway, the hostname, and the DNS server IP 
addresses. 

However, I do not understand what you are trying to do.

I'm trying to configure FBSD so I can get online. There is an interface at 
setup that requests all this data. Also, the manual says to have this data 
handy (it is the manual I am currently referencing).

Probably your interface uses DHCP. 

Yes, DHCP is enabled.

You should type in

/sbin/sysinstall

and then configure your network interface. 

Yes, that is what I will do, but first I need the above questions answered, 
because that is the data I must enter!

TIA,
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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Drew Jenkins
- Original Message 
From: Joe Holden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Drew Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 11:45:47 AM
Subject: Re: Building Home Server

You could try opening a command prompt (cmd/command in run) and running 
it, that way it won't close after it exits.

Yeah, I thought of that, unfortunately I get the response that id doesn't 
recognize the command! Yet run does recognize the command! Go figure!
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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Nagy László Zsolt

Drew Jenkins wrote:

Start menu/Run
cmd


Did you run cmd.exe? Really?

Probably your interface uses DHCP. 



Yes, DHCP is enabled.

  

You should type in

/sbin/sysinstall

and then configure your network interface. 



Yes, that is what I will do, but first I need the above questions answered, 
because that is the data I must enter!
  
Definitely, not. You should configure the network with DHCP. It will 
find the correct settings automatically.


1. Login as root
2. Start sysinstall
3. Go to Configure/Networking/Interfaces
4. Select your NIC card
5. When it asks to configure with IPv6, say NO
6. When it asks to configure with DHCP, say YES

That's all.

  Laszlo


  Laszlo

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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Drew Jenkins
- Original Message 
From: Nagy László Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Drew Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 12:08:13 PM
Subject: Re: Building Home Server

Did you run cmd.exe? Really?

This is really strange. If I go to run and then enter ipconfig /all, it 
prints everything out in a flash then disappears, so I don't have time to read 
the information. If I go to run and type in cmd.exe and then type in 
ipconfig /all it tells me the command doesn't exist!

1. Login as root
2. Start sysinstall
3. Go to Configure/Networking/Interfaces
4. Select your NIC card
5. When it asks to configure with IPv6, say NO
6. When it asks to configure with DHCP, say YES

That's all.

Worked like a charm ;) Thanks!
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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Nagy László Zsolt


  
You could try opening a command prompt (cmd/command in run) and running 
it, that way it won't close after it exits.



Yeah, I thought of that, unfortunately I get the response that id doesn't recognize the 
command! Yet run does recognize the command! Go figure!
  
It must be Win98 Win95 or Windows ME. The command interpreter is called 
command.exe on DOS/Win9x/ME systems. On Windows NT, 2000, 2003 the 
interpreter is called cmd.exe. However, command.exe also present on 
the newer systems, for compatibility reasons. command.exe is a 16 bit 
program. cmd.exe is a 32bit program. I think I'm a bit offtopic here - 
this list is about FreeBSD. :-)


 Laszlo

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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Drew Jenkins
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From: Robert C Wittig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Drew Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:11:38 PM
Subject: Re: Building Home Server

Is this a Windows box or a BSD box, that you are trying to run a server on?

Both:
a hard drive for each. This is only a personal server. My workhorse is
located elsewhere. But I'm tired of having problems with experimenting
on my workhorse! Once I get this built, then whenever I try something
new, I'll try it on this unit, then once it works build it on the
workhorse. You know, like you're supposed to do it ;)

If you are looking for information on how to set up something similar, I 
have an excellent grasp, how to do it, up to and including setting up a 
very basic PF, to keep the crackers out.

Fire away! I'd love to see your packet filters and anything else you have that 
you think would be of interest! Thanks!
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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Ziad Badawi

regarding the ip config, you could type:
ipconfig /all | more
or
ipconfig /all out.txt
In the second way you'll find the configuration in out.txt

On 2/16/07, Nagy László Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




 You could try opening a command prompt (cmd/command in run) and running
 it, that way it won't close after it exits.


 Yeah, I thought of that, unfortunately I get the response that id
doesn't recognize the command! Yet run does recognize the command! Go
figure!

It must be Win98 Win95 or Windows ME. The command interpreter is called
command.exe on DOS/Win9x/ME systems. On Windows NT, 2000, 2003 the
interpreter is called cmd.exe. However, command.exe also present on
the newer systems, for compatibility reasons. command.exe is a 16 bit
program. cmd.exe is a 32bit program. I think I'm a bit offtopic here -
this list is about FreeBSD. :-)

  Laszlo

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Re: Building Home Server

2007-02-16 Thread Drew Jenkins
- Original Message 
From: Ziad Badawi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Nagy László Zsolt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 1:42:53 PM
Subject: Re: Building Home Server

regarding the ip config, you could type:
ipconfig /all | more
or
ipconfig /all out.txt
In the second way you'll find the configuration in out.txt

Firstly, this discussion is now OT and not necessary, since the problem has 
been solved, but interesting at least to me nonetheless. Secondly, I ran the 
first command and watched the data scroll by for 2 seconds then disappear. On 
the out.txt, I ran a search for the same and it wasn't to be found on my hard 
drive. Ah, well! Good ideas! Didn't know those commands work in DOS, too ;)
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Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard diskornetworkperformance?

2004-04-25 Thread Markie

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Crist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2004 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard
diskornetworkperformance?


| On Friday 23 April 2004 09:04, you wrote:
|
| [snip]
|
|  I just now swapped the old 3com card in the servers box with the intel
card
|  from that one and well... it seems to be working fine! Is this a bad
driver
|  or bad hardware? I still have a routing problem, before I can do
anything
|  with the internet after a new connection I have to do the following:
| 
|  route delete default
|  route add new internet ip
|  route -n add default -iface new internet ip
| 
|  but with this modem it appears you have to do this on openbsd and
netbsd
|  too. I am going to hunt down a way to do it automatically :o) I will
also
|  test the transfer rate stuff again to make sure it wasn't just that old
|  card doing something nasty although I doubt it'd be that
| 
|  I will keep you informed for what it's worth :o)
|
| This is pretty simple.  Simply add the following line to the /etc/rc.conf
| file:
|
| default_route=ip.address.here.please
|
| HTH

I don't have a static IP address? :o)

Just got back home from a gig today to find the box had locked up again
with 2 icmp redirect messages on the console and an ATA timeout thing

Apr 23 20:54:28 bone kernel: icmp redirect from 80.145.155.146: 0.0.0.0 =
217.4.98.129
Apr 24 19:13:21 bone kernel: icmp redirect from 195.36.246.89:
192.168.2.100 = 217.5.98.154
Apr 24 23:49:35 bone kernel: ad2: TIMEOUT - WRITE_DMA retrying (2 retries
left) LBA=1663

Just like that... i'm not sure if it's the timeout that caused the lockup
this time or not. I thought swapping the network cards had fixed it..
well.. I dunno, maybe this is something different?

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Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk ornetworkperformance?

2004-04-23 Thread Markie


| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Markie
| Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:15 PM
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk
| ornetworkperformance?
|
|
| - Original Message -
| From: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:53 PM
| Subject: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk or
| networkperformance?
|
|
| | Hello everyone!
| |
| | I just upgraded my home server frmo 4.9-R-p3 to 5.2.1-R after
| having a
| few
| | problems with modems and random hard lockups(?).
| |
| | Well, first off the upgrade didn't solve this and I can still
| reliably
| make
| | the box freeze with a new modem I bought which I hoped would cure
| the
| | problem... when infact it's 10x worse with that modem :o) Has
| anyone got
| | any ideas as to what could be causing this? The network card for
| the
| | internal side is an fxp card and the network card the modem is
| attached
| to
| | is an older 10megabit vx card (3com Etherlink III).
| |
| | I can't really think of any other information to provide right now
| but I
| | really would be grateful for some prompting of more info and a bit
| of
| help!
| | My last few emails to questions about the hard lock ups didn't get
| any
| | replies if I remember rightly :o)
| |
| | Aside from that, I just copied a 400 meg file over samba and it
| really
| did
| | seem incredibly slow compared to when it was running 4.9. It took
| agess
| | to untar the backup 1.5gig file too! Is there anything I am
| supposed to
| | tweak here?
| | I am thinking about just reinstalling 4.9 again but I would like
| to avoid
| | that if I can, as it would be alot of time wasted :o) I don't have
| any
| | numbers for this unfortuantly either, it just feels and seems a
| hell of
| | alot slower! For instance, when I was copying this file and tried
| to ssh
| in
| | from my windows machine it just sat there for ages doing
| (apparently)
| | nothing!
| |
| | Thanks!
| |
|
| Well I was just using bmon from ports to monitor the speed and
| copying a
| file to the box over samba is dramatically slower than copying from
| it:
|
| Copying a 1.5gig backup tar from the freebsd machine to my box is
| around
| 6-7 meg a second
| Copying a 600 odd meg file to the freebsd machine from my box is
| around
| only 1-2 meg a second!
|
| I do seem to remember having this kind of problem ages ago when I
| used
| Linux. Before installing 5.2.1 I did enable plug and play in BIOS
| (it hung
| with that turned on using 4.9, not with 5.2.1 though) so I will try
| disabling that either later or tomorrow morning to see if that fixes
| my
| issue! Could it be that which is causing it?
|
| Other than that I don't think I have had any major issues with the
| install
| yet :o) Well... except for it didn't solve my hard lockup problem
| like I
| hoped it would have. Seems like it isn't a hard disk performance
| drop
| though :o)
|

- Original Message - 
From: JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 1:33 PM
Subject: RE: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk
ornetworkperformance?


| Release 5.x uses an new file system which many people have reported
| noticeable performance problems and hard disk sector lock outs. Keep
| in mind that all the 5.x version are full of new experimental code.
| If performance and reliability is requirement you need on your
| servers then only use the stable versions of FreeBSD. 4.9 is the
| current production stable version, 4.10 beta is available now and in
| 2 weeks 4.10 is scheduled to be released becoming the official
| current production stable version.

Yeah I realise that. I just find it a bit strange that it pulls off the
machine normal speeds but sending something over to it is really slow. I
don't remember it being so slow on 4.9! And the untar was slow from one
drive to the other... on seperate channels too (and that was before I
turned off write caching :o)

I am now playing about trying to figure out why the box keeps locking up on
me with my new modem :o( I compiled a kernel with invarients and witness
and stuff in but... it just locks up totally! I would appreciate it if
anyone could help me out or suggest anything at all!

At the moment I am thinking perhaps the card is just bad or something. An
old PCI 3COM Etherlink III 590 or something along those lines. I am about
to try it on my other 5.x box with just one intel card to see if it'll lock
that up too. Expect more moaning from me :o)

Thanks for your reply!!

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Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard diskornetworkperformance?

2004-04-23 Thread Markie

- Original Message - 
From: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard
diskornetworkperformance?


|
|
| | -Original Message-
| | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Markie
| | Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 6:15 PM
| | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Subject: Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk
| | ornetworkperformance?
| |
| |
| | - Original Message -
| | From: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:53 PM
| | Subject: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk or
| | networkperformance?
| |
| |
| | | Hello everyone!
| | |
| | | I just upgraded my home server frmo 4.9-R-p3 to 5.2.1-R after
| | having a
| | few
| | | problems with modems and random hard lockups(?).
| | |
| | | Well, first off the upgrade didn't solve this and I can still
| | reliably
| | make
| | | the box freeze with a new modem I bought which I hoped would cure
| | the
| | | problem... when infact it's 10x worse with that modem :o) Has
| | anyone got
| | | any ideas as to what could be causing this? The network card for
| | the
| | | internal side is an fxp card and the network card the modem is
| | attached
| | to
| | | is an older 10megabit vx card (3com Etherlink III).
| | |
| | | I can't really think of any other information to provide right now
| | but I
| | | really would be grateful for some prompting of more info and a bit
| | of
| | help!
| | | My last few emails to questions about the hard lock ups didn't get
| | any
| | | replies if I remember rightly :o)
| | |
| | | Aside from that, I just copied a 400 meg file over samba and it
| | really
| | did
| | | seem incredibly slow compared to when it was running 4.9. It took
| | agess
| | | to untar the backup 1.5gig file too! Is there anything I am
| | supposed to
| | | tweak here?
| | | I am thinking about just reinstalling 4.9 again but I would like
| | to avoid
| | | that if I can, as it would be alot of time wasted :o) I don't have
| | any
| | | numbers for this unfortuantly either, it just feels and seems a
| | hell of
| | | alot slower! For instance, when I was copying this file and tried
| | to ssh
| | in
| | | from my windows machine it just sat there for ages doing
| | (apparently)
| | | nothing!
| | |
| | | Thanks!
| | |
| |
| | Well I was just using bmon from ports to monitor the speed and
| | copying a
| | file to the box over samba is dramatically slower than copying from
| | it:
| |
| | Copying a 1.5gig backup tar from the freebsd machine to my box is
| | around
| | 6-7 meg a second
| | Copying a 600 odd meg file to the freebsd machine from my box is
| | around
| | only 1-2 meg a second!
| |
| | I do seem to remember having this kind of problem ages ago when I
| | used
| | Linux. Before installing 5.2.1 I did enable plug and play in BIOS
| | (it hung
| | with that turned on using 4.9, not with 5.2.1 though) so I will try
| | disabling that either later or tomorrow morning to see if that fixes
| | my
| | issue! Could it be that which is causing it?
| |
| | Other than that I don't think I have had any major issues with the
| | install
| | yet :o) Well... except for it didn't solve my hard lockup problem
| | like I
| | hoped it would have. Seems like it isn't a hard disk performance
| | drop
| | though :o)
| |
|
| - Original Message - 
| From: JJB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 1:33 PM
| Subject: RE: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk
| ornetworkperformance?
|
|
| | Release 5.x uses an new file system which many people have reported
| | noticeable performance problems and hard disk sector lock outs. Keep
| | in mind that all the 5.x version are full of new experimental code.
| | If performance and reliability is requirement you need on your
| | servers then only use the stable versions of FreeBSD. 4.9 is the
| | current production stable version, 4.10 beta is available now and in
| | 2 weeks 4.10 is scheduled to be released becoming the official
| | current production stable version.
|
| Yeah I realise that. I just find it a bit strange that it pulls off the
| machine normal speeds but sending something over to it is really slow. I
| don't remember it being so slow on 4.9! And the untar was slow from one
| drive to the other... on seperate channels too (and that was before I
| turned off write caching :o)
|
| I am now playing about trying to figure out why the box keeps locking up
on
| me with my new modem :o( I compiled a kernel with invarients and witness
| and stuff in but... it just locks up totally! I would appreciate it if
| anyone could help me out or suggest anything at all!
|
| At the moment I am thinking perhaps the card is just bad or something. An
| old PCI 3COM Etherlink III 590 or something along those lines. I am about
| to try it on my

Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk or network performance?

2004-04-22 Thread Markie
Hello everyone!

I just upgraded my home server frmo 4.9-R-p3 to 5.2.1-R after having a few
problems with modems and random hard lockups(?).

Well, first off the upgrade didn't solve this and I can still reliably make
the box freeze with a new modem I bought which I hoped would cure the
problem... when infact it's 10x worse with that modem :o) Has anyone got
any ideas as to what could be causing this? The network card for the
internal side is an fxp card and the network card the modem is attached to
is an older 10megabit vx card (3com Etherlink III).

I can't really think of any other information to provide right now but I
really would be grateful for some prompting of more info and a bit of help!
My last few emails to questions about the hard lock ups didn't get any
replies if I remember rightly :o)

Aside from that, I just copied a 400 meg file over samba and it really did
seem incredibly slow compared to when it was running 4.9. It took agess
to untar the backup 1.5gig file too! Is there anything I am supposed to
tweak here?
I am thinking about just reinstalling 4.9 again but I would like to avoid
that if I can, as it would be alot of time wasted :o) I don't have any
numbers for this unfortuantly either, it just feels and seems a hell of
alot slower! For instance, when I was copying this file and tried to ssh in
from my windows machine it just sat there for ages doing (apparently)
nothing!

Thanks!

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Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk or networkperformance?

2004-04-22 Thread Markie

- Original Message - 
From: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:53 PM
Subject: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk or
networkperformance?


| Hello everyone!
|
| I just upgraded my home server frmo 4.9-R-p3 to 5.2.1-R after having a
few
| problems with modems and random hard lockups(?).
|
| Well, first off the upgrade didn't solve this and I can still reliably
make
| the box freeze with a new modem I bought which I hoped would cure the
| problem... when infact it's 10x worse with that modem :o) Has anyone got
| any ideas as to what could be causing this? The network card for the
| internal side is an fxp card and the network card the modem is attached
to
| is an older 10megabit vx card (3com Etherlink III).
|
| I can't really think of any other information to provide right now but I
| really would be grateful for some prompting of more info and a bit of
help!
| My last few emails to questions about the hard lock ups didn't get any
| replies if I remember rightly :o)
|
| Aside from that, I just copied a 400 meg file over samba and it really
did
| seem incredibly slow compared to when it was running 4.9. It took
agess
| to untar the backup 1.5gig file too! Is there anything I am supposed to
| tweak here?
| I am thinking about just reinstalling 4.9 again but I would like to avoid
| that if I can, as it would be alot of time wasted :o) I don't have any
| numbers for this unfortuantly either, it just feels and seems a hell of
| alot slower! For instance, when I was copying this file and tried to ssh
in
| from my windows machine it just sat there for ages doing (apparently)
| nothing!
|
| Thanks!
|

Well I was just using bmon from ports to monitor the speed and copying a
file to the box over samba is dramatically slower than copying from it:

Copying a 1.5gig backup tar from the freebsd machine to my box is around
6-7 meg a second
Copying a 600 odd meg file to the freebsd machine from my box is around
only 1-2 meg a second!

I do seem to remember having this kind of problem ages ago when I used
Linux. Before installing 5.2.1 I did enable plug and play in BIOS (it hung
with that turned on using 4.9, not with 5.2.1 though) so I will try
disabling that either later or tomorrow morning to see if that fixes my
issue! Could it be that which is causing it?

Other than that I don't think I have had any major issues with the install
yet :o) Well... except for it didn't solve my hard lockup problem like I
hoped it would have. Seems like it isn't a hard disk performance drop
though :o)

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Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk ornetworkperformance?

2004-04-22 Thread Markie

- Original Message - 
From: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:14 PM
Subject: Re: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk
ornetworkperformance?


|
| - Original Message - 
| From: Markie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 10:53 PM
| Subject: Home server upgrade 4.9 - 5.2.1, drop in hard disk or
| networkperformance?
|
|
| | Hello everyone!
| |
| | I just upgraded my home server frmo 4.9-R-p3 to 5.2.1-R after having a
| few
| | problems with modems and random hard lockups(?).
| |
| | Well, first off the upgrade didn't solve this and I can still reliably
| make
| | the box freeze with a new modem I bought which I hoped would cure the
| | problem... when infact it's 10x worse with that modem :o) Has anyone
got
| | any ideas as to what could be causing this? The network card for the
| | internal side is an fxp card and the network card the modem is attached
| to
| | is an older 10megabit vx card (3com Etherlink III).
| |
| | I can't really think of any other information to provide right now but
I
| | really would be grateful for some prompting of more info and a bit of
| help!
| | My last few emails to questions about the hard lock ups didn't get any
| | replies if I remember rightly :o)
| |
| | Aside from that, I just copied a 400 meg file over samba and it really
| did
| | seem incredibly slow compared to when it was running 4.9. It took
| agess
| | to untar the backup 1.5gig file too! Is there anything I am supposed to
| | tweak here?
| | I am thinking about just reinstalling 4.9 again but I would like to
avoid
| | that if I can, as it would be alot of time wasted :o) I don't have any
| | numbers for this unfortuantly either, it just feels and seems a hell of
| | alot slower! For instance, when I was copying this file and tried to
ssh
| in
| | from my windows machine it just sat there for ages doing (apparently)
| | nothing!
| |
| | Thanks!
| |
|
| Well I was just using bmon from ports to monitor the speed and copying a
| file to the box over samba is dramatically slower than copying from it:
|
| Copying a 1.5gig backup tar from the freebsd machine to my box is around
| 6-7 meg a second
| Copying a 600 odd meg file to the freebsd machine from my box is around
| only 1-2 meg a second!
|
| I do seem to remember having this kind of problem ages ago when I used
| Linux. Before installing 5.2.1 I did enable plug and play in BIOS (it
hung
| with that turned on using 4.9, not with 5.2.1 though) so I will try
| disabling that either later or tomorrow morning to see if that fixes my
| issue! Could it be that which is causing it?
|
| Other than that I don't think I have had any major issues with the
install
| yet :o) Well... except for it didn't solve my hard lockup problem like I
| hoped it would have. Seems like it isn't a hard disk performance drop
| though :o)
|

Ok, well, I just rebooted and put plug and play os back to disabled but
it's the same... so I guess this must have something to do with it being a
newer version of samba (same config as before though) or freebsd? Anyone
else seem anything like this before?

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Moving my home server to completely different hardware

2002-11-10 Thread Eelke Blok
Hi all,

I'm running a home server, which acts as an IP-forwarding machine for my 
home network, does some webserving, mail, etc. It's currently based on a 
Pentium 120, but I plan to move it to an AMD Athlon.About the only thing 
that will remain the same is the hard drive and the two NICs in the machine.

What would be my best route? Fresh install? (Eeek, have to install 
everything all over again). I think it should be possible to just take 
the hard drive and put in in the new machine, boot a generic kernel and 
then compile a new kernel for the new hardware, but I'm wondering 
whether I'm missing something.


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