Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On 10/13/13 17:38, Thomas Mueller wrote: On the question of playing Adobe Flash in FreeBSD, could one use the MS-Windows 32-bit version with (i386-)Wine? I plan to try that. Apparently that won't solve much. The primary issue now with watching flash movies is the drm - on linux it somehow uses hal and dbus, on windows it uses the registry. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On the question of playing Adobe Flash in FreeBSD, could one use the MS-Windows 32-bit version with (i386-)Wine? I plan to try that. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:31:56 +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:54:24 -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote: On 10/11/13 5:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9.1 I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? Actually I think you want x11-toolkits/gtk20..? Would pkg_add work for you? Maybe graphics/librsvg2 is better suited (even though it's version 2 of the library). The problem initially mentions will remain: lots of installation dependencies. Sadly, that seems to be normal today as modern software tends to rely on layers of libraries of abstraction of tools of utilities of stuff of layers of layers of other abstractions. :-) As you see: gnome-desktop and gtk20. That should bring your warning lights up: lots of dependencies ahead! When you try to install a simple desktop environment, you'll be confronted with hundreds of packages to be installed, some of them you've probably never had thought of in regards of what you need to install a desktop, such as two or more different databases, LaTeX, translators, and other surprising stuff. This will probably apply to most complex components and parts of desktop environments or X11 toolkits (as mentioned above). As I mentioned, the librsvg2 port will install lib/librsvg-2.so. It might require you to re-install your target application to link against that library. A library libsvg.so (without version number) doesn't seem to be in the ports tree by that name. My lazy man's method of searching what port might contain the library: Midnight Commander, go to /usr/ports, Meta-?, seach in pkg-plist, search for text librsvg and examine the results with PF3. This method relies on approaches that might be wrong... :-) Note that my (locally installed) ports tree is not up to date anymore so you should consider performing a search on a recent tree to make sure I didn't miss anything. Thanks Polytropon, but the one I needed was this: x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop/pkg-plist:%%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%/gtk-2.0/ rsvg.so I have given in, let it install all 80 ports, saved the one shlib I need and deleted the ports again. All is now well. By the way, I needed it for the 'screenlets' Python applications; in particular ClockScreenlet.py. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
I don't know what others think, but what *I* really want is that the free software versions of Flash (gnash and klash, etc) work at least as well as versions of Adobe Flash do, or if versions of Adobe Flash are to be used, that it will be free and covered by the GPL. Its unlikely to happen unless we start a campaign among the Free Software users of the world to make Flash free software. Yes, I know HTML 5 is just around the corner, but we've seen a concerted effort already (in the European Parliament at least) to introduce DRM into HTML 5 and though it may make using Flash marginally easier, it would be a retrograde step if DRM is to be introduced. So what are we left with? Free software to replicate what Flash does (at least) that does not have the taint of proprietary software? Is that not an achievable goal? I can't code but would be willing to join a project with those achievable goals, but it hasn't appeared yet, so I don't seriously expect it will happen any time soon. ++ Graham Todd signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:28:40 +0100, gct7photogra...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know what others think, but what *I* really want is that the free software versions of Flash (gnash and klash, etc) work at least as well as versions of Adobe Flash do, or if versions of Adobe Flash are to be used, that it will be free and covered by the GPL. First of all, keep in mind you're walking corporate territory here. No company will give you anything for free, and even if it looks free, there's a catch somewhere. Flash as a technology is dying. It didn't make the transition to the growing mobile markets. That's why Adobe does not continue its Linux line of product - a completely reasoname business decision. People who use, or to be correct, _abuse_ Flash as a replace- ment for markup and content are not interested in bringing their product to your attention and reception. What I'd like to see would be a Flash plugin integrated in the web browser, with the option of being switched off. I'd consider it a 1st class citizen by demanding that is has the same status as embedded media, centered text, a PNG image or a hyperlink, being a functional module of the web browser like the renderer, the CSS interpreter, the JS interpreter or something like that. Could you imagine to install a pro- prietary plugin to be able to see a JPG image? To see text centered? To click on a hyperlink? And all the time keep in mind that it is backdoored? Hmmm... Its unlikely to happen unless we start a campaign among the Free Software users of the world to make Flash free software. That won't happen. Flash is the property of a corporation. The only alternative I see is that this corporation would donate the product, releasing all the sources and abandoning all involved lawyer-crap. But that won't happen. I think most companies better close away the stuff they won't develop anymore instead of handing it over to a community. Yes, I know HTML 5 is just around the corner, but we've seen a concerted effort already (in the European Parliament at least) to introduce DRM into HTML 5 and though it may make using Flash marginally easier, it would be a retrograde step if DRM is to be introduced. As far as I know, DRM will be covered by the upcoming standard. This means it will be _possible_ to implement DRM solutions in HTML. _Using_ them - that's a totally different field. Keep in mind an important thing: Alternatives for Flash have been around for a decade at least. Video, audio, interaction - all possible without it. It's not just about the browser plugin (the player), it's also about the creative tools that people use to produce the stuff. Those tools are offered usually in expensive commercially distributed suites. As soon as developers and creators get aware of alternatives that they can learn and use for free, they _might_ change, but only if the mindset changes. It's not just about those tools, it's also about file formats. What I'm talking about is media codecs. Some of them offer DRM capabilites, others don't. Some of them are highly infected with patents and other lawyer-crap. There are reasons why some systems and environments can play various formats out of the box, and others can't. Which formats are efficient for use with the Internet? Which offer scaling and streaming capabilities, important for mobile users who demand lower quality, less data transfer, and tolerance to higher latency? Which codecs can make use of a decoder made in hardware? _This_ problem also has to be solved! Now put this back into relation with my initial idea of making that kind of content decoder part of the web browser. The same way you see a JPG image on a web page and click on a hyperlink... It should be easy, but sadly it isn't. HTML5 tries to solve those problems. Its markup will be better suited for handling media content, plus CSS and JS will be important players on the interaction field. There are already projects that utilize those tools, and _developer tools_ as well as _creator tools_ will be present. Maybe they will even be present for free. YouTube can do fine without Flash already. Online games in HTML5 are appearing. On the other hand, Flash is a no-go on mobile, and mobile is becoming more and more important to consumers. Additionally, more and more people become aware of the danger of proprietary software (in regards of privacy and corporate control, as well as an improving understanding of what DRM does to their freedom). It will take some time to show significant effect. Let's hope people are going to get smarter than I assume. :-) So what are we left with? Free software to replicate what Flash does (at least) that does not have the taint of proprietary software? Is that not an achievable goal? It is a _desired_ goal. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 04:48 +0200, Polytropon wrote: Let's hope people are going to get smarter than I assume. :-) It's new, not even 100 years old. Within our lifetimes people likely become more stupid, but yes, it will take some generations and people will get smarter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Do I really have to install 80 packages?
FreeBSD 9.1 I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On 10/11/13 5:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9.1 I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? Actually I think you want x11-toolkits/gtk20..? Would pkg_add work for you? Best, --Glenn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:54:24 -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote: On 10/11/13 5:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9.1 I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? Actually I think you want x11-toolkits/gtk20..? Would pkg_add work for you? Maybe graphics/librsvg2 is better suited (even though it's version 2 of the library). The problem initially mentions will remain: lots of installation dependencies. Sadly, that seems to be normal today as modern software tends to rely on layers of libraries of abstraction of tools of utilities of stuff of layers of layers of other abstractions. :-) As you see: gnome-desktop and gtk20. That should bring your warning lights up: lots of dependencies ahead! When you try to install a simple desktop environment, you'll be confronted with hundreds of packages to be installed, some of them you've probably never had thought of in regards of what you need to install a desktop, such as two or more different databases, LaTeX, translators, and other surprising stuff. This will probably apply to most complex components and parts of desktop environments or X11 toolkits (as mentioned above). As I mentioned, the librsvg2 port will install lib/librsvg-2.so. It might require you to re-install your target application to link against that library. A library libsvg.so (without version number) doesn't seem to be in the ports tree by that name. My lazy man's method of searching what port might contain the library: Midnight Commander, go to /usr/ports, Meta-?, seach in pkg-plist, search for text librsvg and examine the results with PF3. This method relies on approaches that might be wrong... :-) Note that my (locally installed) ports tree is not up to date anymore so you should consider performing a search on a recent tree to make sure I didn't miss anything. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 03:31:16PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: Meanwhile I did: # cp -Rp ~guru/PKGDIR/mnt # PKG_PATH=/PKGDIR # export PKG_PATH # chroot /mnt pkg_add xorg-7.7 # chroot /mnt pkg_add kde-4.10.5 # chroot /mnt pkg_add vim-7.3.1314 ... # chroot /mnt pkg_info | wc -l 654 which went fine without any errors (only the normal messages about creation of users, etc.); I will test the resulting image and report back. I have transferred the image with dd(1) to a 16 marketing-GByte USB key; it boots fine in my little EeePC 900, takes around 90 secs until login: and KDE4 starts fine too, takes around 240 secs from startx to be able to start an xterm application in KDE4 desktop; i.e. it works, even from such a slow USB key which has a read performance of 1 to 17 MByte per sec, depending of the blocksize 512 or 8m; All this is only a proof of concept to prepare such USB key to boot from and reinstall from it the system on my EeePC netbook whic runs at themoment r235646 with KDE3 (which is now dropped from our ports tree). It seems that KDE4 launches a lot of application or services which I will not need, for example all these akonadi_maildir processes (see attached ps -ax output; for what they are good for? Ok, this question goes more to the kde@ mailing list. Thx matthias PID TT STATTIME COMMAND 0 - DLs 0:00.05 [kernel] 1 - ILs 0:00.02 /sbin/init -- 2 - DL 0:00.00 [sctp_iterator] 3 - DL 0:00.00 [xpt_thrd] 4 - DL 0:00.11 [pagedaemon] 5 - DL 0:00.00 [vmdaemon] 6 - DL 0:00.00 [pagezero] 7 - DL 0:00.00 [bufdaemon] 8 - DL 0:00.09 [syncer] 9 - DL 0:00.00 [vnlru] 10 - DL 0:00.00 [audit] 11 - RL 2:53.86 [idle] 12 - WL 0:02.35 [intr] 13 - DL 0:00.84 [geom] 14 - DL 0:00.05 [rand_harvestq] 15 - DL 0:00.90 [usb] 16 - DL 0:00.03 [acpi_thermal] 17 - DL 0:00.00 [softdepflush] 1391 - Ss 0:00.03 /sbin/devd 1536 - Ss 0:00.04 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s 1560 - DL 0:00.04 [md0] 1641 - Is 0:00.60 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto 1686 - Is 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd 1689 - Ss 0:00.02 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) 1692 - Is 0:00.00 sendmail: Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmque 1696 - Ss 0:00.05 /usr/sbin/cron -s 1796 - Is 0:19.46 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-a 1802 - Is 0:00.91 kdeinit4: kdeinit4 Running... (kdeinit4) 1803 - I0:00.60 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: klauncher --fd=8 (kdeinit4) 1805 - I0:05.90 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: kded4 (kdeinit4) 1807 - I0:00.07 /usr/local/libexec/gam_server 1811 - I0:02.99 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: kglobalaccel (kdeinit4) 1817 - I0:06.23 /usr/local/kde4/bin/knotify4 1819 - I0:02.45 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: ksmserver (kdeinit4) 1820 - I0:11.72 kwin -session 10d6114d4e60001381347192001812_1381 1824 - I0:14.72 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: plasma-desktop (kdeinit4) 1827 - I0:20.26 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_control 1828 - I0:02.79 akonadiserver 1830 - I0:03.56 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --defaults-file=/home/guru/.loc 1838 - I0:02.07 /usr/local/kde4/bin/kuiserver 1840 - I0:00.08 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: nepomukserver (kdeinit4) 1843 - I0:04.73 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: krunner (kdeinit4) 1845 - I0:02.35 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: kmix -session 10d6114d4e6000138134736 1846 - IN 0:00.93 /usr/local/kde4/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstorage 1849 - I0:00.60 /usr/local/kde4/bin/nepomukcontroller -session 10d6114d4e 1852 - I0:01.04 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1853 - I0:01.07 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1854 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1855 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1856 - I0:03.81 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_archivemail_agent --identifie 1857 - I0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_ical_r 1858 - I0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1859 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1860 - I0:01.12 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1861 - I0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1862 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1863 - I0:01.10 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1864 - I0:01.06 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1865 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1866 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1867 - I0:01.03 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1868 - I0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1869 - I0:01.02
install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
Hello, I have prepared a boot-able USB-key (to be exactly a disk image of it) the usual way: # dd if=/dev/zero of=da0 bs=8m count=1868 # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f da0 md0 # fdisk -I md0 # fdisk -B md0 # bsdlabel -w md0s1 auto # bsdlabel -B md0s1 # bsdlabel -e md0s1 # edit the disk label and change partition a from unused to 4.2BSD # newfs /dev/md0s1a # mount /dev/md0s1a /mnt # cd /usr/src now we can install world an kernel: # make installworld DESTDIR=/mnt # make installkernel DESTDIR=/mnt KERNCONF=GENERIC INSTALL_NODEBUG=t # make distrib-dirs DESTDIR=/mnt # make distribution DESTDIR=/mnt ... I have compiled ~800 ports (Xorg and KDE4) and after this I've created packages of all the installed ports with pkg_create(1); the resulting .tgz files are all as well copied to the image into /mnt/PKGDIR. So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? Thanks in advance All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 6:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? Thanks in advance All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). pkg_add and all of the old pkgtools do not exist in 10-CURRENT anymore. Are you running a build of 10-CURRENT before they were removed? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 07:58:06AM -0500, Mark Felder escribió: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 6:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? Thanks in advance All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). pkg_add and all of the old pkgtools do not exist in 10-CURRENT anymore. Are you running a build of 10-CURRENT before they were removed? No. The r255948 was built on a clean, empty environment but with $ cat /etc/src.conf WITH_PKGTOOLS=yes matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 8:07, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 07:58:06AM -0500, Mark Felder escribió: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 6:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? Thanks in advance All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). pkg_add and all of the old pkgtools do not exist in 10-CURRENT anymore. Are you running a build of 10-CURRENT before they were removed? No. The r255948 was built on a clean, empty environment but with $ cat /etc/src.conf WITH_PKGTOOLS=yes Ok, I won't question your needs for pkg_* as you seem to be aware of what you're doing :-) When you use pkg_* or pkg with their built-in chroot options it seems that it executes those tools within those chroots instead of setting the chroot as a destination for the installation. So if you wanted to use --chroot I think you have to make sure the packages are available inside the chroot. Perhaps there's some sort of DESTDIR option for the package installation? I've been searching but have had no luck yet. I'll ask around. It might be more reliable to do something like nullfs mount the packages into the chroot and do the installation completely within the chroot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 08:12:31AM -0500, Mark Felder escribió: No. The r255948 was built on a clean, empty environment but with $ cat /etc/src.conf WITH_PKGTOOLS=yes Ok, I won't question your needs for pkg_* as you seem to be aware of what you're doing :-) When you use pkg_* or pkg with their built-in chroot options it seems that it executes those tools within those chroots instead of setting the chroot as a destination for the installation. So if you wanted to use --chroot I think you have to make sure the packages are available inside the chroot. Perhaps there's some sort of DESTDIR option for the package installation? I've been searching but have had no luck yet. I'll ask around. It might be more reliable to do something like nullfs mount the packages into the chroot and do the installation completely within the chroot. Meanwhile I did: # cp -Rp ~guru/PKGDIR/mnt # PKG_PATH=/PKGDIR # export PKG_PATH # chroot /mnt pkg_add xorg-7.7 # chroot /mnt pkg_add kde-4.10.5 # chroot /mnt pkg_add vim-7.3.1314 ... # chroot /mnt pkg_info | wc -l 654 which went fine without any errors (only the normal messages about creation of users, etc.); I will test the resulting image and report back. matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port of icedtea-web-1.4_1, on 64 bit system might have a problem in the install process.
01.10.2013 19:09, dweimer wrote:
I was struggling to get itweb-javaws to execute, due to it not being
able to find libjava.so, after running it through truss, I was able to
determine that its looking for the library under /usr/local/lib/amd64,
the file is located in /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64, I was able to
work around the problem by creating a symbolic link to point
/usr/local/lib/amd64 to /usr/local/openjdk/jre/lib/amd64, as the amd64
sub-directory didn't exist in /usr/local/lib.
This does make me wonder though, if I am just missing something from my
environment, that's causing this. Or is the port install not doing
something that it should be doing?
Never faced this, itweb-javaws works for me without library shuffling
but with one tiny fix to startup script: `exec ${COMMAND[@]}`.
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Re: Port of icedtea-web-1.4_1, on 64 bit system might have a problem in the install process.
01.10.2013 21:12, dweimer wrote: On 10/01/2013 11:09 am, dweimer wrote: I was struggling to get itweb-javaws to execute, due to it not being able to find libjava.so, after running it through truss, I was able to determine that its looking for the library under /usr/local/lib/amd64, the file is located in /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64, I was able to work around the problem by creating a symbolic link to point /usr/local/lib/amd64 to /usr/local/openjdk/jre/lib/amd64, as the amd64 sub-directory didn't exist in /usr/local/lib. This does make me wonder though, if I am just missing something from my environment, that's causing this. Or is the port install not doing something that it should be doing? System is a new build of 9.2-RELEASE, compiled from source, source and ports all built with clang where possible. Just an update, this only worked the first time I executed it, now all I get is: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so: /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so: Undefined symbol jpeg_resync_to_restart Try `-headless`. You wont see the shiny logo though... -- Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port of icedtea-web-1.4_1, on 64 bit system might have a problem in the install process.
On 10/02/2013 6:35 am, Volodymyr Kostyrko wrote: 01.10.2013 21:12, dweimer wrote: On 10/01/2013 11:09 am, dweimer wrote: I was struggling to get itweb-javaws to execute, due to it not being able to find libjava.so, after running it through truss, I was able to determine that its looking for the library under /usr/local/lib/amd64, the file is located in /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64, I was able to work around the problem by creating a symbolic link to point /usr/local/lib/amd64 to /usr/local/openjdk/jre/lib/amd64, as the amd64 sub-directory didn't exist in /usr/local/lib. This does make me wonder though, if I am just missing something from my environment, that's causing this. Or is the port install not doing something that it should be doing? System is a new build of 9.2-RELEASE, compiled from source, source and ports all built with clang where possible. Just an update, this only worked the first time I executed it, now all I get is: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so: /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so: Undefined symbol jpeg_resync_to_restart Try `-headless`. You wont see the shiny logo though... Thank you, this fixed that part, silly me, I was searching the help for things like -nosplash, and disable splash screen. Didn't realize that this was the same thing: -headless Disables download window, other UIs. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Port of icedtea-web-1.4_1, on 64 bit system might have a problem in the install process.
I was struggling to get itweb-javaws to execute, due to it not being able to find libjava.so, after running it through truss, I was able to determine that its looking for the library under /usr/local/lib/amd64, the file is located in /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64, I was able to work around the problem by creating a symbolic link to point /usr/local/lib/amd64 to /usr/local/openjdk/jre/lib/amd64, as the amd64 sub-directory didn't exist in /usr/local/lib. This does make me wonder though, if I am just missing something from my environment, that's causing this. Or is the port install not doing something that it should be doing? System is a new build of 9.2-RELEASE, compiled from source, source and ports all built with clang where possible. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Port of icedtea-web-1.4_1, on 64 bit system might have a problem in the install process.
On 10/01/2013 11:09 am, dweimer wrote: I was struggling to get itweb-javaws to execute, due to it not being able to find libjava.so, after running it through truss, I was able to determine that its looking for the library under /usr/local/lib/amd64, the file is located in /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64, I was able to work around the problem by creating a symbolic link to point /usr/local/lib/amd64 to /usr/local/openjdk/jre/lib/amd64, as the amd64 sub-directory didn't exist in /usr/local/lib. This does make me wonder though, if I am just missing something from my environment, that's causing this. Or is the port install not doing something that it should be doing? System is a new build of 9.2-RELEASE, compiled from source, source and ports all built with clang where possible. Just an update, this only worked the first time I executed it, now all I get is: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so: /usr/local/openjdk7/jre/lib/amd64/libsplashscreen.so: Undefined symbol jpeg_resync_to_restart I somewhat worked around it by installing the linux_sun_jre 7.40, and pointing icedtea webstart at it, searching online shows this to be most likely be a bug in the port of openjdk. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=119654 -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
HP Workstation install
Hello list! I've bought an HP Workstation xw8200 and trying to install fsb 8.3, 8.4 and 9.1. The machine boots with all of the 8.x but never install, trying to install from usb stick. Installing 9.1 works, sort of, installation works fine but it never boot. Gives; Non-system disk or disk error replace and strike any key when ready. It is a dual xeon system with 6 Gb ram and 4 HDDs 2 73Gb scsi one 120Gb PATA and one 160Gb SATA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: HP Workstation install
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/24/2013 05:14 PM, Bernt Hansson wrote: Hello list! I've bought an HP Workstation xw8200 and trying to install fsb 8.3, 8.4 and 9.1. The machine boots with all of the 8.x but never install, trying to install from usb stick. Installing 9.1 works, sort of, installation works fine but it never boot. Gives; Non-system disk or disk error replace and strike any key when ready. It is a dual xeon system with 6 Gb ram and 4 HDDs 2 73Gb scsi one 120Gb PATA and one 160Gb SATA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hello, according to my search results this error is related to a broken hard drive cable or due to a wrong boot sequence (BIOS can't find your boot disk). Have you tried to set the boot disk on first position for booting? If that doesn't help, please check the cables. Pascal -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.21 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSQbVNAAoJEAWefonBOgAf7YAQAKjUmOIABchF6S85EdBo3Pe7 HlhXpf787PPpchHm3tuiYJ7zTv11W/4HJTJvbBXtqlt8QrQU2eIdC7ONSSJFdenK bYwTjSmy4yQW3qi1V5sd+i16T/v2vDPyHoILlWg56b7PEQmaog8EPpis/Z1bkSks wzhBrZFFZlKbMni/ECfOEsbvb13NeZPgA2OR2udRYGP0a7u2mK2218FjkDNrwdIO 9e4a87LLxLe/U9RE7BFHiGuLT1f804Mq7A8x6K2gpeDyqfkAoy126mUINUUZNKVb r09cKG2qhN8W8gEdBkGXjGfYzGFrUWCXxgPq7SGnNfGB+Skl1t0l6lAcT8YZ8L59 f4GKAYksuL3iCyooQVBvq0f7lU7wqcKpx/8ZifW/GSDzS7d+DN+u/NjdDoLMHn2I Pg6iVysJlzYVq3oY8AihAJcsGQutS9PZX1MbOvdJ1Y/X11odQ+SQ9fP+Ao5tCe1e fMer1EYrNN3nZuTr/Uo3q5NIwyyyCdvHk82qURlmoZ4gMtQQciDaRlRBc3lcyuXL 9aFGUDZsL0gWKC9ehYPh8sVzz59NmeLM+kglLhAriYD1Jn3ZT8Y1K6cHBkL2mkw8 xpiJ57tbz4K4j8Q2h4eYK6zak7XGBzxS4YmrfN/ZWKzsdL8quKXgLlWnjQ39wH9A 27P2kRVQxMIR9Px7MwCH =jQlO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pkg install on freshly installed 9.1 doesn't find any packages
I installed 9.1 from iso image. Then 'pkg' command brought pkg-1.0.11 package. Now commands like 'pkg install gnome2' always say: pkg: Package 'gnome2' was not found in the repositories. Am I missing something? This is vanilla 9.1 from DVD image. Nothing else. Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg install on freshly installed 9.1 doesn't find any packages
On 17/08/2013 05:41, Yuri wrote:
I installed 9.1 from iso image.
Then 'pkg' command brought pkg-1.0.11 package.
Now commands like 'pkg install gnome2' always say:
pkg: Package 'gnome2' was not found in the repositories.
Am I missing something? This is vanilla 9.1 from DVD image. Nothing else.
You have an old version of pkg there, and it looks like the pkg.conf
that came with that version doesn't point at a repository with any
useful contents.
Try:
pkg upgrade
which /should/ get you pkg-1.1.4_1
Then check ${LOCALBASE}/etc/pkg.conf and make sure packagesite is set to:
http://pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/latest
or there are some other publicly availble repos: Exonetric has one, as
does PC-BSD.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Can't install FreeBSD 9.1 on a Toshiba A20-S207, CAM Status: Command timeout
I'm having problems installing PC-BSD 9.1 Isotope Edition or FreeBSD 9.1 on a relic Toshiba Satellite A20-S207, http://support.toshiba.com/support/staticContentDetail?contentId=638246isFromTOCLink=false . However, on the same machine, PC-BSD 8.2 Hubble Edition or FreeBSD 8.2 can be installed without a problem. So, I'm guessing something changed in the boot configuration detection process. Some forums report it could be related to the hard disk detection speed DMA. Have tried every possible combination in the BIOS settings and still without success. Please find attached the /var/log/messages in PC-BSD 8.2 (the version that works fine.) I can install PC-BSD 9.1 booting in secure mode, and complete the installation process, but when I finish off installation, remove the disc and reboot, it halts in the following lines: uhub0: 3 ports with 3 removable, self powered uhub2: 5 ports with 5 removable, self powered cd0 at ata1 bus 0 scbus1 target 0 lun 0 cd0: TOSHIBA DVD-ROM SD-R2412 1333 Removable CD-ROM SCSI-0 device cd0: 33.300MB/s transfers (UDMA2, ATAPI 12bytes, PIO 65534bytes) cd0: cd present [1828192 x 2048 byte records] ada0 at ata0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun0 ada0: SAMSUNG HM160HC LQ100-10 ATA-8 device ada0: 100.000MB/s transfers (UDMA5, PIO 8192bytes) ada0: 152627MB (312581808 512 byte sectors: 16H 63S/T 16383C) ada: Previously was known as ad0 Timecounter TSC frequency 2656886392 Hz quality 800 (ada0:ata0:0:0:0) READ_DMA48. ACB: 25 00 af 9e a1 40 12 00 00 00 01 00 (ada0:ata0:0:0:0) CAM status: Command timeout (ada0:ata0:0:0:0) Retrying command Thank you for reading. Hope someone points me in the right direction as I'd really like to install the latest stable release of PC-BSD, i.e. version 9.2. Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd syslogd: kernel boot file is /boot/kernel/kernel Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-2011 The FreeBSD Project. Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #7: Wed Feb 16 12:19:08 PST 2011 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: r...@build8x32.pcbsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/local_storage/pcbsd-build82/fbsd-source/8.2/sys/PCBSD i386 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz (2656.83-MHz 686-class CPU) Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf29 Family = f Model = 2 Stepping = 9 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: Features=0xbfebf9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: Features2=0x4400CNXT-ID,xTPR Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: real memory = 2147483648 (2048 MB) Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: avail memory = 2053349376 (1958 MB) Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: Cuse4BSD v0.1.13 @ /dev/cuse Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: kbd1 at kbdmux0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: cryptosoft0: software crypto on motherboard Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: acpi0: TOSHIB 750 on motherboard Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: acpi0: [ITHREAD] Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: acpi0: Power Button (fixed) Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: acpi0: reservation of 10, 7def (3) failed Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0xd808-0xd80b on acpi0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: vgapci0: VGA-compatible display mem 0xfc00-0xfdff,0xfbc0-0xfbff,0xf800-0xf9ff,0xf7ff8000-0xf7ff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: atapci0: AcerLabs M5229 UDMA100 controller port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0xeff0-0xefff at device 4.0 on pci0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: atapci0: using PIO transfers above 137GB as workaround for 48bit DMA access bug, expect reduced performance Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: ata0: [ITHREAD] Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: ata1: [ITHREAD] Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: pci0: multimedia, audio at device 6.0 (no driver attached) Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 7.0 on pci0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: isa0: ISA bus on isab0 Aug 7 21:07:50 pcbsd kernel: pci0: bridge at device
Odd behavior while booting off Install media for 9.1...
... sometimes I get a normal boot procedure were I can proceed to install. Other times I get the mountroot prompt and upon pressing enter, the system reboots. This seems random with the same hardware setup. I literally have to stare at the screen for it to finally push through to the install procedure. I'm clearly new to freeBSD and was wondering what is going on here? I'm happily installing now as I managed to find time and stare at the screen long enough but would like some insight n this if possible. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
How to create NanoBSD iso image to install NanoBSD on vmware machine?
Dear Friends, I am new to Nanobsd and trying to create an iso image which can be installed on vmware machine. I created an iso image using the disk image (/usr/obj/nanobsd.full/_.disk.image) generated according to steps given in NanoBSD How To http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/howto.html . VM could boot up with this ISO image, but I got an error as below before I could get OS installation prompt: mount: /dev/ad0s3: No such file or directory mount -o ro /dev/ad0s3 /conf/default/etc failed: droppnig into /bin/sh Cannot read termcap database; using dumb terminal settings. # do I need to use different commands or options to create iso image while using nanobsd.sh script? Please help. Many thanks in advance for your help and time. Best Regards, - ganesh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to create NanoBSD iso image to install NanoBSD on vmware machine?
Ganesh, I am new to Nanobsd and trying to create an iso image which can be installed on vmware machine. I created an iso image using the disk image (/usr/obj/nanobsd.full/_.disk.image) generated according to steps given in NanoBSD How To http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/howto.html . VM could boot up with this ISO image, but I got an error as below before I could get OS installation prompt: mount: /dev/ad0s3: No such file or directory mount -o ro /dev/ad0s3 /conf/default/etc failed: droppnig into /bin/sh What type of disk have you defined on your VMWare virtual server? The default is SCSI, which corresponds to /dev/da, not ad. Olivier Cannot read termcap database; using dumb terminal settings. # do I need to use different commands or options to create iso image while using nanobsd.sh script? Please help. Many thanks in advance for your help and time. Best Regards, - ganesh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: How to create NanoBSD iso image to install NanoBSD on vmware machine?
Hi Olivier, Hard Disk is configured as IDE (IDE 1:1), vm settings. When freebsd image is booting in this VM, before getting the above error, following logs are displayed on boost console: ada0: VMWare Virtual IDE Hard Driver 0001 ATA-4 device ... ... ada0: Previously was known as ad3 .. Trying to mount root from cd9660:/dev/iso9660/nanoISO [ro]... Thanks On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Olivier Nicole olivier.nic...@cs.ait.ac.th wrote: Ganesh, I am new to Nanobsd and trying to create an iso image which can be installed on vmware machine. I created an iso image using the disk image (/usr/obj/nanobsd.full/_.disk.image) generated according to steps given in NanoBSD How To http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/nanobsd/howto.html . VM could boot up with this ISO image, but I got an error as below before I could get OS installation prompt: mount: /dev/ad0s3: No such file or directory mount -o ro /dev/ad0s3 /conf/default/etc failed: droppnig into /bin/sh What type of disk have you defined on your VMWare virtual server? The default is SCSI, which corresponds to /dev/da, not ad. Olivier Cannot read termcap database; using dumb terminal settings. # do I need to use different commands or options to create iso image while using nanobsd.sh script? Please help. Many thanks in advance for your help and time. Best Regards, - ganesh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 19:43:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: I booted the 9.1 install CD, executed gpart destroy -F ada0, and installed. After completing the install, boot fails with: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. That is a BIOS error, probably due to UEFI expecting a certain disk layout when it finds GPT. Does this mean GPT is not supported by this system? I thought GPT is supposed to replace MBR and UEFI is the future. Perhaps there is something in UEFI that can be tweaked to make it work with GPT? -Simon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
On Sat, 6 Jul 2013, Simon wrote: On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 19:43:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: I booted the 9.1 install CD, executed gpart destroy -F ada0, and installed. After completing the install, boot fails with: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. That is a BIOS error, probably due to UEFI expecting a certain disk layout when it finds GPT. Does this mean GPT is not supported by this system? Kind of the opposite: UEFI expects GPT, but also expects a particular set of partitions. And then there's the SecureBoot situation. I thought GPT is supposed to replace MBR and UEFI is the future. Perhaps there is something in UEFI that can be tweaked to make it work with GPT? Yes. There should be some sort of legacy boot. In UEFI mode, SecureBoot can be disabled, so with the correct partition layout FreeBSD should boot even in UEFI (untested, I do not yet have a UEFI system). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
install on external hdd
Hello everyone, I am new in FreeBSD. I want to install from DVD FreeBSD on an external hdd and I get an error when running the program partitioning. When I press alt + ctrl + F3, last lines: rm: /tmp/bsdinstall_etc/fstab: No such file or directory Running installation step: autopart Segmentation fault Running installation step: umount I found on Google about bsdinstall segfault without disks. Then I reboot computer, disconnected the hdd and connected it immediately after starting bsdinstall, that's what I brought: usb_alloc_device: set address 2 failed (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED ugen1.2: Unknown at usbus1 (disconnected) uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device As I understand it, my external hdd is not mounted. Maybe it's because I have a hdd with usb 3.0, but my computer does not have usb 3.0. Please, help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install on external hdd
Your research is correct so far. On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 00:18:11 +0400, Nazar Kazakov wrote: I found on Google about bsdinstall segfault without disks. Then I reboot computer, disconnected the hdd and connected it immediately after starting bsdinstall, that's what I brought: usb_alloc_device: set address 2 failed (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED ugen1.2: Unknown at usbus1 (disconnected) uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device It should not matter when the disk is attached; bsdinstall will operate on any disk recognized by the system, no matter if detected at program runtime or system boot. As I understand it, my external hdd is not mounted. The disk is not _recognized_. Only a file system can be mounted (which requires the disk to be recognized). For a USB disk, from the /dev/ugenX.Y device a /dev/daX device will be generated, corresponding to the disk. The process you've shown above does not even reach that step. If you go to the shell, you can enter dmesg to see the last messages that will be the same. You can also check the content of /dev regarding daX devices (ls /dev/da*) or use camcontrol devlist to check if they are present. Maybe it's because I have a hdd with usb 3.0, but my computer does not have usb 3.0. Yes, this looks like a typical cannot connect error. Normally, a USB 3 disk would switch down to USB 2. But USB 3 has a different current requirement, so it could be possible that the power drain from the USB port is insufficient for the disk to work properly. Can you try to attach a separate power supply to the disk? For USB 3, _all_ involved parts (disk, cable, ports, controller, OS) need to be in USB 3 mode, else it probably won't work. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
install on external hdd
In dmesg repeats the old conclusion that I wrote, but in dmesg I found information about five usbus and all except the last one (it has 2.0) written usb 1.0. I tried to connect the hdd to last, but failed. Also about usbus written that they are 2-port hub (probably built into the motherboard). In the first four usbus is intel UHCI root HUB, at the last - intel EHCI root HUB ls / dev / da * finds nothing camcontrol devlist outputs only DVD RW My hdd has an input for an external power supply, and it is already connected to a second usb port. 07.07.2013, 00:37, Polytropon free...@edvax.de: Your research is correct so far. On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 00:18:11 +0400, Nazar Kazakov wrote: I found on Google about bsdinstall segfault without disks. Then I reboot computer, disconnected the hdd and connected it immediately after starting bsdinstall, that's what I brought: usb_alloc_device: set address 2 failed (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED usbd_req_re_enumerate: addr=2, set address failed! (USB_ERR_STALLED, ignored) usbd_setup_device_desc: getting device descriptor at addr 2 failed, USB_ERR_STALLED ugen1.2: Unknown at usbus1 (disconnected) uhub_reattach_port: could not allocate new device It should not matter when the disk is attached; bsdinstall will operate on any disk recognized by the system, no matter if detected at program runtime or system boot. As I understand it, my external hdd is not mounted. The disk is not _recognized_. Only a file system can be mounted (which requires the disk to be recognized). For a USB disk, from the /dev/ugenX.Y device a /dev/daX device will be generated, corresponding to the disk. The process you've shown above does not even reach that step. If you go to the shell, you can enter dmesg to see the last messages that will be the same. You can also check the content of /dev regarding daX devices (ls /dev/da*) or use camcontrol devlist to check if they are present. Maybe it's because I have a hdd with usb 3.0, but my computer does not have usb 3.0. Yes, this looks like a typical cannot connect error. Normally, a USB 3 disk would switch down to USB 2. But USB 3 has a different current requirement, so it could be possible that the power drain from the USB port is insufficient for the disk to work properly. Can you try to attach a separate power supply to the disk? For USB 3, _all_ involved parts (disk, cable, ports, controller, OS) need to be in USB 3 mode, else it probably won't work. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install on external hdd
On Sun, 07 Jul 2013 01:15:48 +0400, Nazar Kazakov wrote: In dmesg repeats the old conclusion that I wrote, but in dmesg I found information about five usbus and all except the last one (it has 2.0) written usb 1.0. I tried to connect the hdd to last, but failed. Looks like a current issue. From WP: A unit load is defined as 100 mA in USB 2.0, and 150 mA in USB 3.0. A device may draw a maximum of 5 unit loads (500 mA) from a port in USB 2.0; 6 (900 mA) in USB 3.0. If the disk needs more than 500 mA to spin up and start properly, it won't work on a USB 2.0 port unless you use the external power supply. Also about usbus written that they are 2-port hub (probably built into the motherboard). In the first four usbus is intel UHCI root HUB, at the last - intel EHCI root HUB That kind of combination can often be found. My older home PC also had this kind of configuration (Intel EHCI, VIA UHCI). ls / dev / da * finds nothing camcontrol devlist outputs only DVD RW This shows that the disk isn't recognized by the OS, therefore not usable in any disk-related operation. My hdd has an input for an external power supply, and it is already connected to a second usb port. Also check the USB cable. Sometimes a partially defective cable causes this kind of trouble. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
Hi, I bought an HP Pavilion p7-1597c [1] system last week. It is Intel Core i5-3330, with a Seagate 1.5 TB SATA drive and 12 GB of memory, shipped with Windows 8. I have disabled Secure Boot and enabled Legacy device booting. I am able to complete the install of FreeBSD 9.1/amd64 from the CD without any problems. However, when I attempt to boot, it doesn't. Originally I was trying to dual boot with Win 8, but eventually I rendered Win8 unbootable. So, now I have given FreeBSD the whole disk. I have done the standard install. I found instructions to have the install use MBR (instead of GPT), but that also doesn't work. After an install, I get to the boot0 (the F1 boot menu thing) screen, but when it tries to boot, it prints # and doesn't boot. When trying to share the disk with Windows, mostly I'd get boot errors about not having a bootable device (ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed.). In the BIOS setting, I've tried both IDE and AHCI in Storage Options - SATA emulation. PC-BSD 9.1 has the same results. It installs fine, but resets after selecting something at the boot0 prompt. FreeBSD 8.4 wouldn't install because the installer didn't have device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev in order to create the filesystems. I haven't spent any time figuring out what's going on here. [Using the Standard Installer, accepted the message about geometry, told it to use the whole disk, use the standard boot manager, used the auto-default filesystems, told it to go...] Ubuntu Linux works. OpenBSD works. NetBSD works. Fedora Linux works. I've been a FreeBSD user for about 16 years, so I really want this to work. Does anyone have suggestions about what else I should try? Thanks, James [1] http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03704551lang=encc=ustaskId=101contentType=SupportFAQprodSeriesId=5330777 -- James E. Pace ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, James E. Pace wrote: I bought an HP Pavilion p7-1597c [1] system last week. It is Intel Core i5-3330, with a Seagate 1.5 TB SATA drive and 12 GB of memory, shipped with Windows 8. I have disabled Secure Boot and enabled Legacy device booting. That says the disk is GPT partitioned for UEFI. I am able to complete the install of FreeBSD 9.1/amd64 from the CD without any problems. However, when I attempt to boot, it doesn't. Originally I was trying to dual boot with Win 8, but eventually I rendered Win8 unbootable. So, now I have given FreeBSD the whole disk. I have done the standard install. I found instructions to have the install use MBR (instead of GPT), but that also doesn't work. In what way? After an install, I get to the boot0 (the F1 boot menu thing) screen, but when it tries to boot, it prints # and doesn't boot. When trying to share the disk with Windows, mostly I'd get boot errors about not having a bootable device (ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed.). boot0 is the multi-boot loader. I'm reasonably sure it will not work on a GPT disk. GPT needs the PMBR loader. This should be correctable by using the Shell option of the install disk: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 The installer would write that by default on a blank disk. I don't know what it does when partitions are added to a GPT disk. For that matter, I'm not sure how you got boot0 on there. In the BIOS setting, I've tried both IDE and AHCI in Storage Options - SATA emulation. AHCI is preferred and will go a little bit faster, but either will work. PC-BSD 9.1 has the same results. It installs fine, but resets after selecting something at the boot0 prompt. boot0 strikes again. AFAIK, the only option for multi-boot on GPT disks is EasyBCD or grub (untested). But really, a VM is far preferable to multi-boot for many situations. FreeBSD 8.4 wouldn't install because the installer didn't have device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev in order to create the filesystems. That sounds familiar, but I can't find notes on solving it. I would recommend 9.x anyway. If there is nothing on the disk to lose, I would start from scratch by going to the shell from the installer: # gpart destroy -F ada0 Return to the installer, and it should find the entire disk unpartitioned. If you really want to multi-boot, reinstall Windows 8. Leave part of the disk unpartitioned for FreeBSD. Install EasyBCD in Windows (https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/) and install FreeBSD in a new GPT partition, and maybe it will be easy. I have not tried a multi-boot install with Windows 8 or GPT/EFI, so can't really say what it will take. If you do that, take notes and post them somewhere. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your trying to help me. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, James E. Pace wrote: I bought an HP Pavilion p7-1597c [1] system last week. It is Intel Core i5-3330, with a Seagate 1.5 TB SATA drive and 12 GB of memory, shipped with Windows 8. [...] I am able to complete the install of FreeBSD 9.1/amd64 from the CD without any problems. However, when I attempt to boot, it doesn't. [...] After an install, I get to the boot0 (the F1 boot menu thing) screen, but when it tries to boot, it prints # and doesn't boot. When trying to share the disk with Windows, mostly I'd get boot errors about not having a bootable device (ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed.). boot0 is the multi-boot loader. I'm reasonably sure it will not work on a GPT disk. GPT needs the PMBR loader. This should be correctable by using the Shell option of the install disk: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 The installer would write that by default on a blank disk. I don't know what it does when partitions are added to a GPT disk. For that matter, I'm not sure how you got boot0 on there. boot0 must have been installed when I did MBR partitioning, and/or PCBSD did it? If there is nothing on the disk to lose, I would start from scratch by going to the shell from the installer: # gpart destroy -F ada0 Return to the installer, and it should find the entire disk unpartitioned. I booted the 9.1 install CD, executed gpart destroy -F ada0, and installed. After completing the install, boot fails with: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. I booted the install CD again, and executed: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 and rebooted. I got the same error: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. If you really want to multi-boot, reinstall Windows 8. The Windows ship has sailed -- the system didn't come with media, and the install has been removed. So, I'm committed. :) Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks, James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, James E. Pace wrote: Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your trying to help me. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, James E. Pace wrote: I bought an HP Pavilion p7-1597c [1] system last week. It is Intel Core i5-3330, with a Seagate 1.5 TB SATA drive and 12 GB of memory, shipped with Windows 8. [...] I am able to complete the install of FreeBSD 9.1/amd64 from the CD without any problems. However, when I attempt to boot, it doesn't. [...] After an install, I get to the boot0 (the F1 boot menu thing) screen, but when it tries to boot, it prints # and doesn't boot. When trying to share the disk with Windows, mostly I'd get boot errors about not having a bootable device (ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed.). boot0 is the multi-boot loader. I'm reasonably sure it will not work on a GPT disk. GPT needs the PMBR loader. This should be correctable by using the Shell option of the install disk: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 The installer would write that by default on a blank disk. I don't know what it does when partitions are added to a GPT disk. For that matter, I'm not sure how you got boot0 on there. boot0 must have been installed when I did MBR partitioning, and/or PCBSD did it? If there is nothing on the disk to lose, I would start from scratch by going to the shell from the installer: # gpart destroy -F ada0 Return to the installer, and it should find the entire disk unpartitioned. I booted the 9.1 install CD, executed gpart destroy -F ada0, and installed. After completing the install, boot fails with: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. That is a BIOS error, probably due to UEFI expecting a certain disk layout when it finds GPT. I booted the install CD again, and executed: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 and rebooted. I got the same error: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. If you really want to multi-boot, reinstall Windows 8. The Windows ship has sailed -- the system didn't come with media, and the install has been removed. So, I'm committed. :) Always image the disk that comes with the machine. I like to do that before the first boot. Clonezilla works well for that. Something to remember for next time, anyway. You may be able to get Windows reinstall media from HP. Do you have any other suggestions? Use 'gpart destroy' again, and set up an MBR partitioning scheme: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=149210postcount=13 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
You, sir, are a wizard. You magical incantations worked, and I now have a bootable FreeBSD 9.1 system. Use 'gpart destroy' again, and set up an MBR partitioning scheme: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=149210postcount=13 I really, really appreciate your help. James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, James Pace wrote: You, sir, are a wizard. You magical incantations worked, and I now have a bootable FreeBSD 9.1 system. ? ? Use 'gpart destroy' again, and set up an MBR partitioning scheme: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=149210postcount=13 I really, really appreciate your help. Excellent! For future reference, I have an article on disk setup here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Other FreeBSD articles that you may find useful: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/index.html___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Boot Error v7.4 Install
I've been trying for days to install v7.4 from floppies with non-bootable CD on an old Intel AltServer platform's Adaptec AIC-7870 SCSI. It's SCSI Software User's Guide offers configuration support for Novell Netware, OS/2, Windows NT, SCO Unix, and Novell UnixWare with no mention of BSD. The installation to 16Gb SCSI ID:0 on a Dell PowerEdge Scalable Disk Subsystem 100 appears to go well, but always results in Boot Error. Any help would be appreciated, especially directing me to most appropriate discussion list/archive. Tks, -- Gary Gary Welles Old Mystic, CT USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
install firefox without X
Hi all :-) I need use -X ssh and use firefox on remote machine: ssh -X -l user xxx host Is there a way to install firefox without X? or less ports possible thanks! Pol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install firefox without X
On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:41 AM, Pol Hallen wrote: Hi all :-) I need use -X ssh and use firefox on remote machine: ssh -X -l user xxx host Is there a way to install firefox without X? or less ports possible I indeed run Firefox using the above method from my servers (which aren't running X) but X is still installed. It *should* be able to work in theory (I use xdialog from ports on machines that don't have X installed; only xdialog and xauth). *** warning *** will uninstall X11 software *** warning *** pkg_delete -x xorg Maybe Firefox will still run (communicating with the X server running on the local side of your ssh client), or maybe it will balk incessantly about something. I do know however, that you'll need xauth installed regardless. -- Devin _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install firefox without X
On 18 June 2013 14:01, Teske, Devin devin.te...@fisglobal.com wrote: On Jun 18, 2013, at 6:41 AM, Pol Hallen wrote: Hi all :-) I need use -X ssh and use firefox on remote machine: ssh -X -l user xxx host Is there a way to install firefox without X? or less ports possible I indeed run Firefox using the above method from my servers (which aren't running X) but X is still installed. It *should* be able to work in theory (I use xdialog from ports on machines that don't have X installed; only xdialog and xauth). *** warning *** will uninstall X11 software *** warning *** pkg_delete -x xorg Maybe Firefox will still run (communicating with the X server running on the local side of your ssh client), or maybe it will balk incessantly about something. I do know however, that you'll need xauth installed regardless. While you don't have to have xorg-server (or any of the various drivers) installed, you still need a fair bit: pkg info -d firefox firefox-17.0.6,1 depends on: atk-2.6.0 binutils-2.23.1 bitstream-vera-1.10_5 cairo-1.10.2_5,2 compositeproto-0.4.2 damageproto-1.2.1 desktop-file-utils-0.21 dri2proto-2.8 encodings-1.0.4,1 expat-2.0.1_2 fixesproto-5.0 font-bh-ttf-1.0.3 font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.3 font-misc-meltho-1.0.3 font-util-1.3.0 fontconfig-2.9.0,1 freeglut-2.8.1 freetype2-2.4.12_1 gamin-0.1.10_5 gcc-4.6.3 gdk-pixbuf2-2.26.5_3 gettext-0.18.1.1_1 gio-fam-backend-2.34.3 glib-2.34.3 glproto-1.4.16 gmp-5.1.2 gnomehier-3.0 gobject-introspection-1.34.2 gtk-update-icon-cache-2.24.19 gtk-2.24.19 hicolor-icon-theme-0.12 hunspell-1.3.2_2 icu-50.1.2 inputproto-2.3 jasper-1.900.1_12 jbigkit-1.6 jpeg-8_4 kbproto-1.0.6 libGL-7.6.1_4 libGLU-7.6.1_2 libICE-1.0.8,1 libIDL-0.8.14_1 libSM-1.2.1,1 libX11-1.6.0,1 libXau-1.0.8 libXcomposite-0.4.4,1 libXcursor-1.1.14 libXdamage-1.1.4 libXdmcp-1.1.1 libXext-1.3.2,1 libXfixes-5.0.1 libXft-2.3.1 libXi-1.7.1_1,1 libXinerama-1.1.3,1 libXmu-1.1.1,1 libXrandr-1.4.1 libXrender-0.9.8 libXt-1.1.4,1 libXxf86vm-1.1.3 libdrm-2.4.17_1 libevent2-2.0.21 libffi-3.0.13 libfontenc-1.1.2 libiconv-1.14_1 libpciaccess-0.13.1_1 libpthread-stubs-0.3_3 libvpx-1.1.0 libxcb-1.9.1 libxml2-2.8.0_2 mkfontdir-1.0.7 mkfontscale-1.1.0 mpc-0.9 mpfr-3.1.2 ncurses-5.9_3 nspr-4.9.6 nss-3.14.3 pango-1.30.1 pciids-20130606 pcre-8.33 perl-threaded-5.16.3 pixman-0.28.2 pkgconf-0.9.2_1 png-1.5.16 python27-2.7.5_1 randrproto-1.4.0 renderproto-0.11.1 shared-mime-info-1.1 sqlite3-3.7.17_1 tiff-4.0.3 xcb-util-renderutil-0.3.8 xcb-util-0.3.9_1,1 xextproto-7.2.1 xf86vidmodeproto-2.3.1 xineramaproto-1.2.1 xorg-fonts-truetype-7.7 xproto-7.0.24 zip-3.0 NB: you might need more than that to build -- -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install firefox without X
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Pol Hallen m...@fuckaround.org wrote: Hi all :-) I need use -X ssh and use firefox on remote machine: ssh -X -l user xxx host Is there a way to install firefox without X? or less ports possible On a clean machine, setting WITHOUT_X11=yes in /etc/make.conf then using ports to install firefox eg portmaster www/firefox is going to be the easiest way to get a minimal install. Then only required X11 components will be pulled in(assuming the port tree is in a good state). Obviously X11 cannot be eliminated entirely on the headless system try to forward X11 apps. There is a reason you have to type ssh -X -- Adam Vande More ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
How can I install dialog4ports in my qjail3 environment?
Hi, How can I install dialog4ports in my qjail3 environment? I will be grateful for any help you can provide. root # cd /usr/ports/sysutils/qjail root # qjail create -n em0 webserver 192.168.0.50 root # pkg_info | grep qjail qjail-3.0 Utility to quickly deploy and manage jails webserver /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/dialog4ports make install clean = dialog4ports-0.1.4.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /var/ports/distfiles/. = Attempting to fetch http://m1cro.tk/dialog4ports/dialog4ports-0.1.4.tar.gz dialog4ports-0.1.4.tar.gz 100% of 9 kB 61 kBps === Fetching all distfiles required by dialog4ports-0.1.4 for building === Extracting for dialog4ports-0.1.4 = SHA256 Checksum OK for dialog4ports-0.1.4.tar.gz. === Patching for dialog4ports-0.1.4 === Configuring for dialog4ports-0.1.4 === Building for dialog4ports-0.1.4 /dev/null, line 1: Need an operator make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue *** [do-build] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/dialog4ports. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Panic/reboot while trying to install 9.1 on a HP Proliant DL580G5
On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 10:41:01AM +0930, Shane Ambler wrote: Just guessing from what I see - The panic is No usable event timer found! . Hi Shane, Thanks much for the hints you sent me. Since I'm pretty swamped with work it took me a couple of days before I could go on with my tests. Can you boot into single user mode? Nope - freezes at the exact same point during boot. what does sysctl kern.eventtimer.choice show? Well - nothing to be honest: variable 'kern.eventtimer.choice' not found Have you tried kern.eventtimer.periodic=0 or other values for kern.eventtimer.timer? With kern.eventtimer.periodic=0 - same result. What other values would be valid for kern.eventtimer.timer? Is the panic the same without the loader adjustments? Yes, absolutely the same. Does it boot 8.3 ? Haven't tried this, since I need to go to 9.1 on this system anyway. Besides that the server is in a remote DC so changing disks is not an easy thing to do. -ewald ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Panic/reboot while trying to install 9.1 on a HP Proliant DL580G5
On 14/06/2013 23:33, Ewald Jenisch wrote: On Fri, Jun 07, 2013 at 10:41:01AM +0930, Shane Ambler wrote: Just guessing from what I see - The panic is No usable event timer found! I did say just guessing and thought someone more knowledgeable may have spoken by now. One thing I did find - there is a freebsd-proliant mailing list that may be more helpful than here. Thanks much for the hints you sent me. Since I'm pretty swamped with work it took me a couple of days before I could go on with my tests. Can you boot into single user mode? Nope - freezes at the exact same point during boot. what does sysctl kern.eventtimer.choice show? Well - nothing to be honest: variable 'kern.eventtimer.choice' not found Wondering if the system needs to be running to see that. Have you tried kern.eventtimer.periodic=0 or other values for kern.eventtimer.timer? With kern.eventtimer.periodic=0 - same result. What other values would be valid for kern.eventtimer.timer? That's where the eventtimer.choice comes in. As an example on my asus mb I get kern.eventtimer.choice: LAPIC(600) HPET(550) HPET1(440) HPET2(440) HPET3(440) HPET4(440) i8254(100) RTC(0) I thought in single user mode you could see your list of available options. Is the panic the same without the loader adjustments? Yes, absolutely the same. Does it boot 8.3 ? Haven't tried this, since I need to go to 9.1 on this system anyway. Besides that the server is in a remote DC so changing disks is not an easy thing to do. If 8.3 boots it then you can patch and compile your own kernel that supports your hardware. Being remote it may not be helpful unless you can have some indication that it will boot 8.3 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
With fresh 9.1 install, bash completion no longer expands $HOME
On my 9.0-based machines, if I typed $HOME[tab] when typing a command in bash, the $HOME would be overwritten by the actual path to my home directory (the value of $HOME) and tab completion would work as expected. After a fresh 9.1 install, this does not work as well. $HOME is still detected by completion, but it is not expanded after pressing tab (this does not matter to me), but also an extra space is inserted after tab. For example, if I have a directory named src under my home directory, and my working directory is an unrelated directory, and I type cd $HOME/sr[tab]: Under 9.0: cd /home/dcaldwell/src/[cursor] Under 9.1: cd $HOME/src [cursor] So under 9.1 I lose the slash and see a space instead, essentially, which renders this not very useful. If I use ~ rather than $HOME, it works correctly under both. Obviously I could probably learn to type ~ rather than $HOME but it would be a hard habit to break after years. :) For bash (and for most software) I am using binary packages from the -release distribution, so my 9.0 machines have 4.1.11 and my 9.1 machines have 4.2.37. I don't know enough about all the moving parts to know where to start tracking this down, so can someone point me in the right direction? (Unless there's an known problem or change I'm missing.) I can't figure out where completion is configured in bash outside the /usr/local/etc/bash_completion.d/ directory, which incidentally on my 9.1 setup contains: $ ls /usr/local/etc/bash_completion.d/ dbus-bash-completion.sh*gdbus-bash-completion.sh* gsettings-bash-completion.sh* Thanks, -- David Caldwell http://www.davidpcaldwell.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: With fresh 9.1 install, bash completion no longer expands $HOME
Re: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2013-June/251607.html This has nothing to do with FreeBSD 9.0 vs. 9.1 other than the fact that the package on 9.0 is older than 9.1. Instead, this has everything to do with the difference between bash versions you're using. Remember: packages and ports 99% of the time are third-party software (in this case GNU), and therefore any changes in behaviour between versions are entirely independent of FreeBSD. The feature you like from bash 4.1 was removed in some manner of speaking in bash 4.2. This prompted a user to complain -- please read the thread (not just the post) in full, because you will see there are others who *do not* like this behaviour: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-bash/2011-02/msg00274.html In bash 4.2.29 -- which is technically patch 029 for bash 4.2 -- the feature you desire got moved into a shopt feature called direxpand, with the default being disabled. Because bash 4.3 is not out yet, you will not find any mention of this in the official bash CHANGES file at this time. Instead, you will find the answer in the official bash42-029 patch itself (read the top): ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/bash/bash-4.2-patches/bash42-029 If you do not like this default, or feel strongly about this whole thing and want to discuss it, the GNU bug-bash mailing list is the place: http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/ To enable direxpand, use shopt -s direxpand. You can put this command in your ~/.bashrc. -- | Jeremy Chadwick j...@koitsu.org | | UNIX Systems Administratorhttp://jdc.koitsu.org/ | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Panic/reboot while trying to install 9.1 on a HP Proliant DL580G5
Hi, Several days ago I got a HP Proliant DL580 G5 that I wanted to install FreeBSD 9.1 (64bit) on - till now without any success :-(. Symptoms: Upon booting off the installation DVD the system freezes (when running the installation non-verbose) or installation stops with a panic followed by an automatic reboot. Here's what I tried so far: o) Updating BIOS, array-controller, iLO to the latest version o) Booting the installation DVD in safe-mode o) Booting the installatino DVD verbose mode o) Escaping to the loader prompt, entering kern.eventtimer.periodic=1 kern.eventtimer.timer=LAPIC and booting the install-DVD with these settings (I once could boot and older HP-server using these settings, so I tried them here too) Nothing of this helped - the system just freezes/crashes in an early stage even before the actual installer starts. I uploaded screenshots to a server so you can see what's happening: http://www.jenisch.at/HP-Proliant-DL580-G5-Installation-Crash/FreeBSD-install-crash-HP-Proliant-DL580-G5-01.jpg http://www.jenisch.at/HP-Proliant-DL580-G5-Installation-Crash/FreeBSD-install-crash-HP-Proliant-DL580-G5-02.jpg http://www.jenisch.at/HP-Proliant-DL580-G5-Installation-Crash/FreeBSD-install-crash-HP-Proliant-DL580-G5-03.jpg http://www.jenisch.at/HP-Proliant-DL580-G5-Installation-Crash/FreeBSD-install-crash-HP-Proliant-DL580-G5-04.jpg (FreeBSD-install-crash-HP-Proliant-DL580-G5-04.jpg shows the actual panic/stacktrace) Anybody seen this before? Any known cure against this problem? Thanks much in advance for any clue, -ewald ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Panic/reboot while trying to install 9.1 on a HP Proliant DL580G5
On 06/06/2013 23:41, Ewald Jenisch wrote: Here's what I tried so far: o) Updating BIOS, array-controller, iLO to the latest version o) Booting the installation DVD in safe-mode o) Booting the installatino DVD verbose mode o) Escaping to the loader prompt, entering kern.eventtimer.periodic=1 kern.eventtimer.timer=LAPIC and booting the install-DVD with these settings (I once could boot and older HP-server using these settings, so I tried them here too) (FreeBSD-install-crash-HP-Proliant-DL580-G5-04.jpg shows the actual panic/stacktrace) Just guessing from what I see - The panic is No usable event timer found! Have you tried kern.eventtimer.periodic=0 or other values for kern.eventtimer.timer? Is the panic the same without the loader adjustments? Can you boot into single user mode? what does sysctl kern.eventtimer.choice show? Does it boot 8.3 ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS install on a partition
On Thu, 23 May 2013 11:00:21 +0200 Albert Shih albert.s...@obspm.fr wrote: Before I'm installing my server under 9.0 + ZFS I do some benchmarks with ionice to compare FreeBSD 9.0+ ZFS + 12 disk SATA 7200 rpm vs CentOS + H700 + 12 disk SAS 15krpm (Both are same Dell poweredge). And the ZFS+12 disk sata goes much faster than CentOS+H700+ext4 almost everywhere. Only for small file AND small record size the ZFS is slower than CentOS. Hmm I wonder if that's mostly down to the SAS drives seeking faster or between ZFS and ext4. The only real way to tell would be to give both boxes the same kind of drives. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: 9.1 - new install questions
Hi, I don't often comment here and don't really have much to add in this case but; What have you tried to discover the answers to your questions? I just noticed that this post seemed to have been missed. some leads might be: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.1R/relnotes.html http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4862 - have a good day, 'a5 I just installed 9.1 on a clean disk. The dmesg is at the end of this message. For the network configuration, I selected DHCP for IPv4 and SLAAC for IPv6. When I boot the PC, it appears that dhclient tries to load twice. Why does it try to load the second time? From the console log: May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: Starting dhclient. May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: DHCPREQUEST on fxp0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: DHCPREQUEST on fxp0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: DHCPACK from 10.20.1.1 May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: bound to 10.20.2.14 -- renewal in 36 seconds. May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: dhclient already running? (pid=1233). Also during the boot process, but earlier, is this message: (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): ATAPI_IDENTIFY. ACB: a1 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): CAM status: Command timeout (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): Error 5, Retry was blocked run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): ATAPI_IDENTIFY. ACB: a1 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): CAM status: Command timeout (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): Error 5, Retry was blocked What is that trying to tell me? The disk appears to work fine, i.e., 9.1 loads up and runs OK. The above adds significantly to the boot time. If it is just informational, is there a way to bypass it? Thanks. dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243826: Tue Dec 4 06:55:39 UTC 2012 r...@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Mobile CPU 1.70GHz (1698.61-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf24 Family = f Model = 2 Stepping = 4 Features=0x3febf9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MC A,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM real memory = 1073741824 (1024 MB) avail memory = 1031213056 (983 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 ctl: CAM Target Layer loaded acpi0: IBM TP-1G on motherboard acpi_ec0: Embedded Controller: GPE 0x1c, ECDT port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 10, 3ff0 (3) failed cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 attimer0: AT timer port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on acpi0 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 atrtc0: AT realtime clock port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0 Event timer RTC frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_lid0: Control Method Lid Switch on acpi0 acpi_button0: Sleep Button on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 agp0: Intel 82845 host to AGP bridge on hostb0 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xe800-0xefff,0xd010-0xd010 irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 uhci0: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-A port 0x1800-0x181f irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 usbus0 on uhci0 uhci1: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-B port 0x1820-0x183f irq 11 at device 29.1 on pci0 usbus1 on uhci1 uhci2: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-C port 0x1840-0x185f irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0 usbus2 on uhci2 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 cbb0: RF5C476 PCI-CardBus Bridge mem 0x5000-0x5fff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci2 cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0 pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0 cbb1: RF5C476 PCI-CardBus Bridge mem 0x5010-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 0.1 on pci2 cardbus1: CardBus bus on cbb1 pccard1: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb1 fwohci0: Ricoh R5C552 mem 0xd0201000-0xd02017ff irq 11 at device 0.2 on pci2 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:06:1b:00:10:00:6d:38 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus on fwohci0 fwe0: Ethernet over FireWire on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:06:1b:00:6d:38 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:06:1b:00:6d:38 fwip0: IP over FireWire on firewire0 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:06:1b:00:10:00:6d:38 @ 0xfffe, S400, maxrec 2048
Re: ZFS install on a partition
Le 17/05/2013 ? 20:03:30-0400, Paul Kraus a écrit ZFS is stable, it is NOT as tuned as UFS just due to age. UFS in all of it's various incarnations has been tuned far more than any filesystem has any right to be. I spent many years managing Solaris system and I was truly amazed at how tuned the Solaris version of UFS was. I have been running a number of 9.0 and 9.1 servers in production, all running ZFS for both OS and data, with no FS related issues. Have you ever try to update a ZFS Pool on 9.0 to 9.1 ? I've a server with a big zpool in 9.0 I'm wonder if it's good idea to upgrade to 9.1. If I lost the data I'm close to dead person. If I thinking to upgrade to 9.1 it's because I got small issue about NFSD, LACP. Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex France Téléphone : +33 1 45 07 76 26/+33 6 86 69 95 71 xmpp: j...@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: jeu 23 mai 2013 10:51:49 CEST ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS install on a partition
Le 18/05/2013 ? 09:02:15-0400, Paul Kraus a écrit On May 18, 2013, at 3:21 AM, Ivailo Tanusheff ivailo.tanush...@skrill.com wrote: If you use HBA/JBOD then you will rely on the software RAID of the ZFS system. Yes, this RAID is good, but unless you use SSD disks to boost performance and a lot of RAM the hardware raid should be more reliable and mush faster. Why will the hardware raid be more reliable ? While hardware raid is susceptible to uncorrectable errors from the physical drives (hardware raid controllers rely on the drives to report bad reads and writes), and the uncorrectable error rate for modern drives is such that with high capacity drives (1TB and over) you are almost certain to run into a couple over the operational life of the drive. 10^-14 for cheap drives and 10^-15 for better drives, very occasionally I see a drive rated for 10^-16. Run the math and see how many TB worth of data you have to write and read (remember these failures are generally read failures with NO indication that a failure occurred, bad data is just returned to the system). In terms of performance HW raid is faster, generally due to the cache RAM built into the HW raid controller. ZFS makes good use of system, Before I'm installing my server under 9.0 + ZFS I do some benchmarks with ionice to compare FreeBSD 9.0+ ZFS + 12 disk SATA 7200 rpm vs CentOS + H700 + 12 disk SAS 15krpm (Both are same Dell poweredge). And the ZFS+12 disk sata goes much faster than CentOS+H700+ext4 almost everywhere. Only for small file AND small record size the ZFS is slower than CentOS. The server don't have SSD. He got 48Go of ram. Regards. JAS -- Albert SHIH DIO bâtiment 15 Observatoire de Paris 5 Place Jules Janssen 92195 Meudon Cedex France Téléphone : +33 1 45 07 76 26/+33 6 86 69 95 71 xmpp: j...@obspm.fr Heure local/Local time: jeu 23 mai 2013 10:53:50 CEST ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS install on a partition
On May 23, 2013, at 4:53 AM, Albert Shih albert.s...@obspm.fr wrote: Have you ever try to update a ZFS Pool on 9.0 to 9.1 ? I recently upgraded my home server from 9.0 to 9.1, actually, I did exported my data zpool (raidZ2), did a clean installation of 9.1, then imported my data zpool. Everything went perfectly. zpool upgrade did NOT indicate that there was a newer version of zpool so I did not even have to upgrade the on-disk zpool format (currently 28). I've a server with a big zpool in 9.0 I'm wonder if it's good idea to upgrade to 9.1. If I lost the data I'm close to dead person. If I thinking to upgrade to 9.1 it's because I got small issue about NFSD, LACP. My data zpool is not that big, only five 1TB drives in a raidZ2 for a net capacity of about 3TB, plus one 1TB hot spare. My suggestion is to do the following (which is how I did the upgrade): 1) on a different physical system install 9.1, get the OS configured how you want it 2) on the production server, export the data zpool 3) shutdown the production server 4) remove the OS drives from the production server and replace with the drives you just installed 9.1 on 5) booth the production server with the 9.1 OS drives, make sure everything is working the way you want 6) import the data zpool If the import fails, you can always put the 9.0 drives back in and get back up and running fairly quickly. My system has the OS on a mirror zpool of two drives for just the OS. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.1 - new install questions
I just installed 9.1 on a clean disk. The dmesg is at the end of this message. For the network configuration, I selected DHCP for IPv4 and SLAAC for IPv6. When I boot the PC, it appears that dhclient tries to load twice. Why does it try to load the second time? From the console log: May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: Starting dhclient. May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: DHCPREQUEST on fxp0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: DHCPREQUEST on fxp0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: DHCPACK from 10.20.1.1 May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: bound to 10.20.2.14 -- renewal in 36 seconds. May 18 17:53:15 a31p kernel: dhclient already running? (pid=1233). Also during the boot process, but earlier, is this message: (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): ATAPI_IDENTIFY. ACB: a1 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): CAM status: Command timeout (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): Error 5, Retry was blocked run_interrupt_driven_hooks: still waiting after 60 seconds for xpt_config (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): ATAPI_IDENTIFY. ACB: a1 00 00 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): CAM status: Command timeout (aprobe0:ata1:0:1:0): Error 5, Retry was blocked What is that trying to tell me? The disk appears to work fine, i.e., 9.1 loads up and runs OK. The above adds significantly to the boot time. If it is just informational, is there a way to bypass it? Thanks. dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-2012 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD is a registered trademark of The FreeBSD Foundation. FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE #0 r243826: Tue Dec 4 06:55:39 UTC 2012 r...@obrian.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Mobile CPU 1.70GHz (1698.61-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = GenuineIntel Id = 0xf24 Family = f Model = 2 Stepping = 4 Features=0x3febf9ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MC A,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM real memory = 1073741824 (1024 MB) avail memory = 1031213056 (983 MB) kbd1 at kbdmux0 ctl: CAM Target Layer loaded acpi0: IBM TP-1G on motherboard acpi_ec0: Embedded Controller: GPE 0x1c, ECDT port 0x62,0x66 on acpi0 acpi0: Power Button (fixed) acpi0: reservation of 0, a (3) failed acpi0: reservation of 10, 3ff0 (3) failed cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0 attimer0: AT timer port 0x40-0x43 irq 0 on acpi0 Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 Event timer i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 100 atrtc0: AT realtime clock port 0x70-0x71 irq 8 on acpi0 Event timer RTC frequency 32768 Hz quality 0 Timecounter ACPI-safe frequency 3579545 Hz quality 850 acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x1008-0x100b on acpi0 acpi_lid0: Control Method Lid Switch on acpi0 acpi_button0: Sleep Button on acpi0 pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0 agp0: Intel 82845 host to AGP bridge on hostb0 pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1 vgapci0: VGA-compatible display port 0x3000-0x30ff mem 0xe800-0xefff,0xd010-0xd010 irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci1 uhci0: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-A port 0x1800-0x181f irq 11 at device 29.0 on pci0 usbus0 on uhci0 uhci1: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-B port 0x1820-0x183f irq 11 at device 29.1 on pci0 usbus1 on uhci1 uhci2: Intel 82801CA/CAM (ICH3) USB controller USB-C port 0x1840-0x185f irq 11 at device 29.2 on pci0 usbus2 on uhci2 pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 cbb0: RF5C476 PCI-CardBus Bridge mem 0x5000-0x5fff irq 11 at device 0.0 on pci2 cardbus0: CardBus bus on cbb0 pccard0: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb0 cbb1: RF5C476 PCI-CardBus Bridge mem 0x5010-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 0.1 on pci2 cardbus1: CardBus bus on cbb1 pccard1: 16-bit PCCard bus on cbb1 fwohci0: Ricoh R5C552 mem 0xd0201000-0xd02017ff irq 11 at device 0.2 on pci2 fwohci0: OHCI version 1.0 (ROM=0) fwohci0: No. of Isochronous channels is 4. fwohci0: EUI64 00:06:1b:00:10:00:6d:38 fwohci0: Phy 1394a available S400, 2 ports. fwohci0: Link S400, max_rec 2048 bytes. firewire0: IEEE1394(FireWire) bus on fwohci0 fwe0: Ethernet over FireWire on firewire0 if_fwe0: Fake Ethernet address: 02:06:1b:00:6d:38 fwe0: Ethernet address: 02:06:1b:00:6d:38 fwip0: IP over FireWire on firewire0 fwip0: Firewire address: 00:06:1b:00:10:00:6d:38 @ 0xfffe, S400, maxrec 2048 dcons_crom0: dcons configuration ROM on firewire0 dcons_crom0: bus_addr 0x14a fwohci0: Initiate bus reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: BUS reset fwohci0: fwohci_intr_core: node_id=0x, SelfID Count=1, CYCLEMASTER mode fxp0: Intel 82801CAM (ICH3) Pro/100 VE Ethernet port 0x8000-0x803f mem 0xd020-0xd0200fff irq 11 at device 8.0 on pci2 miibus0: MII bus on fxp0 inphy0: i82562ET 10/100 media interface PHY 1 on miibus0 inphy0: 10baseT,
Re: ZFS install on a partition
On May 18, 2013, at 10:16 PM, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 01:29:58PM +, Ivailo Tanusheff wrote: Not sure about your calculations, hope you trust them, but in my previous company we have a 3-4 months period when a disk fails almost every day on 2 year old servers, so trust me - I do NOT trust those calculations, as I've seen the opposite. Maybe it was a failed batch of disk, shipped in the country, but no one is insured against this. Yes, you can use several hot spares on the software raid, but: What calculations are you talking about? He posted the uncorrectable read error probabilities manufacturers put into drive datasheets. The probability of a URE is distinct from and very different from the probability of the entire drive failing. I think he is referring to the calculation I did based on uncorrectable error rate and whether you will run into that type of error over the life of the drive. 1 TB == 8,796,093,022,208 bits 10^15 (in bits) / 1 TB ~= 113.687 So if over the life of the drive you READ a TOTAL of 113.687 TB, then you will, statistically speaking, run into one uncorrectable read error and potentially return bad data to the application or OS. This does NOT scale with size of drive, it is the same for all drives with an uncorrectable error rate of 10^-15 bits. So if you read the entirety of a 1 TB drive 114 times or a 4 TB 29 times you get the same result. But this is a statistical probability, and some drives will have more (much more) uncorrectable errors and others will have less (much less), although I don't know if the distribution falls on a typical gaussian (bell) curve. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: ZFS install on a partition
Hi, The overhead depends of the quantity of the changes you made since the oldest snapshot and the current data on the ZFS pool. The snapshots keep only the differences between the live system and each other, so if you have made 10GB changes over the last 7 days and your oldest snapshot is 7 days old - then the overhead will be a little more than 10GB (because of the system info) :) So this is very efficient way to make the things run. Just keep in mind that having a lot of snapshots can decrease performance when you create/delete a snapshot, as the system should calculate the changes. Best regards, Ivailo Tanusheff -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of b...@todoo.biz Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:33 AM To: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: ZFS install on a partition Le 18 mai 2013 à 06:49, kpn...@pobox.com a écrit : On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:03:30PM -0400, Paul Kraus wrote: On May 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote: 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions. No. One of the biggest benefits of ZFS is the end to end data integrity. IF there is a silent fault in the HW RAID (it happens), ZFS will detect the corrupt data and note it. If you had a mirror or other redundant device, ZFS would then read the data from the *other* copy and rewrite the bad block (or mark that physical block bad and use another). I believe the copies=2 and copies=3 option exists to enable ZFS to self heal despite ZFS not being in charge of RAID. If ZFS only has a single LUN to work with, but the copies=2 or more option is set, then if ZFS detects an error it can still correct it. This option is a dataset option, is inheritable by child datasets, and can be changed at any time affecting data written after the change. To get the full benefit you'll therefore want to set the option before putting data into the relevant dataset. Ok, good to know. I planned to setup a consistent Snapshot policy and remote backup using zfs send / receive That should be enough for me. Is the overhead of this setup equal to double size used on disk ? -- Kevin P. Nealhttp://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ Nonbelievers found it difficult to defend their position in \ the presense of a working computer. -- a DEC Jensen paper «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: ZFS install on a partition
Hi, If you use HBA/JBOD then you will rely on the software RAID of the ZFS system. Yes, this RAID is good, but unless you use SSD disks to boost performance and a lot of RAM the hardware raid should be more reliable and mush faster. I didn't get if you want to use the system to dual boot Linux/FreeBSD or just to share FreeBSD space with linux. But I would advise you to go with option 1 - you will get most of the system and obviously you don't need zpool with raid, as your LSI controller will do all the redundancy for you. Making software RAID over the hardware one will only decrease performance and will NOT increase the reliability, as you will not be sure which information is stored on which physical disk. If stability is a MUST, then I will also advise you to go with bunch of pools and a disk designated as hot spare - in case some disk dies you will rely on the automation recovery. Also you should run monitoring tool on your raid controller. You can also set copies=2/3 just in case some errors occur, so ZFS can auto0repair the data. if you run ZFS over several LUNs this will make even more sense. Best regards, Ivailo Tanusheff -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of b...@todoo.biz Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:24 AM To: Liste FreeBSD Subject: ZFS install on a partition Hi, I have a question regarding ZFS install on a system setup using an Intel Modular. This system runs various flavor of FreeBSD and Linux using a shared pool (LUNs). These LUNs have been configured in RAID 6 using the internal controller (LSI logic). So from the OS point of view there is just a volume available. I know I should install a system using HBA and JBOD configuration - but unfortunately this is not an option for this server. What would you advise ? 1. Can I use an existing partition and setup ZFS on this partition using a standard Zpool (no RAID). 2. Should I use any other solution in order to setup this (like full ZFS install on disk using the entire pool with ZFS). 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions. P.S. Stability is a must for this system - so I won't die if you answer 3 and tell me to keep on using UFS. Thanks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: ZFS install on a partition
Hi, If you go with RAID6 setup on your RAID I think you will not need spare so much, as you will actually have data redundancy distributed over 2 disks. I think you can use 2 or 3 LUNS, just to have more flexibility in the solution, but it is not a must :) For the usage of two copies on pool named mypool issue: zfs set copies=2 mypool Best regards, Ivailo Tanusheff -Original Message- From: b...@todoo.biz [mailto:b...@todoo.biz] Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:46 AM To: Ivailo Tanusheff Subject: Re: ZFS install on a partition Le 18 mai 2013 à 09:21, Ivailo Tanusheff ivailo.tanush...@skrill.com a écrit : Hi, If you use HBA/JBOD then you will rely on the software RAID of the ZFS system. This is the config of my backup system - not the one I am planning to update. Yes, this RAID is good, but unless you use SSD disks to boost performance and a lot of RAM the hardware raid should be more reliable and mush faster. Ok I didn't get if you want to use the system to dual boot Linux/FreeBSD or just to share FreeBSD space with linux. Neither one ! I want to setup a full FreeBSD only system. Will be used to deploy jails. But I would advise you to go with option 1 - you will get most of the system and obviously you don't need zpool with raid, as your LSI controller will do all the redundancy for you. Making software RAID over the hardware one will only decrease performance and will NOT increase the reliability, as you will not be sure which information is stored on which physical disk. Ok If stability is a MUST, then I will also advise you to go with bunch of pools and a disk designated as hot spare - in case some disk dies you will rely on the automation recovery. Also you should run monitoring tool on your raid controller. I can't do that because of the design of the machine I will use. I only have LUN's available configured as volume on top of a RAID 6 pool of disks. This is presented as a block device to the system. You can also set copies=2/3 just in case some errors occur, so ZFS can auto0repair the data. if you run ZFS over several LUNs this will make even more sense. Ok I'll try to figure out how to do that during install in order to have that as soon as possible during the system install. Thx. Best regards, Ivailo Tanusheff -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of b...@todoo.biz Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 1:24 AM To: Liste FreeBSD Subject: ZFS install on a partition Hi, I have a question regarding ZFS install on a system setup using an Intel Modular. This system runs various flavor of FreeBSD and Linux using a shared pool (LUNs). These LUNs have been configured in RAID 6 using the internal controller (LSI logic). So from the OS point of view there is just a volume available. I know I should install a system using HBA and JBOD configuration - but unfortunately this is not an option for this server. What would you advise ? 1. Can I use an existing partition and setup ZFS on this partition using a standard Zpool (no RAID). 2. Should I use any other solution in order to setup this (like full ZFS install on disk using the entire pool with ZFS). 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions. P.S. Stability is a must for this system - so I won't die if you answer 3 and tell me to keep on using UFS. Thanks. «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS install on a partition
On May 18, 2013, at 3:21 AM, Ivailo Tanusheff ivailo.tanush...@skrill.com wrote: If you use HBA/JBOD then you will rely on the software RAID of the ZFS system. Yes, this RAID is good, but unless you use SSD disks to boost performance and a lot of RAM the hardware raid should be more reliable and mush faster. Why will the hardware raid be more reliable ? While hardware raid is susceptible to uncorrectable errors from the physical drives (hardware raid controllers rely on the drives to report bad reads and writes), and the uncorrectable error rate for modern drives is such that with high capacity drives (1TB and over) you are almost certain to run into a couple over the operational life of the drive. 10^-14 for cheap drives and 10^-15 for better drives, very occasionally I see a drive rated for 10^-16. Run the math and see how many TB worth of data you have to write and read (remember these failures are generally read failures with NO indication that a failure occurred, bad data is just returned to the system). In terms of performance HW raid is faster, generally due to the cache RAM built into the HW raid controller. ZFS makes good use of system, RAM for the same function. An SSD can help with performance if the majority of writes are sync (NFS is a good example of this) or if you can benefit from a much larger read cache. SSDs are deployed with ZFS as either write LOG devices (in which case they should be mirrored), but they only come into play for SYNC writes; and as an extension of the ARC, the L2ARC, which does not have to be mirrored as it is only a cache of existing data for spying up reads. I didn't get if you want to use the system to dual boot Linux/FreeBSD or just to share FreeBSD space with linux. But I would advise you to go with option 1 - you will get most of the system and obviously you don't need zpool with raid, as your LSI controller will do all the redundancy for you. Making software RAID over the hardware one will only decrease performance and will NOT increase the reliability, as you will not be sure which information is stored on which physical disk. If stability is a MUST, then I will also advise you to go with bunch of pools and a disk designated as hot spare - in case some disk dies you will rely on the automation recovery. Also you should run monitoring tool on your raid controller. I think you misunderstand the difference between stability and reliability. Any ZFS configuration I have tried on FreeBSD is STABLE, having redundant vdevs (mirrors or RAIDzn) along with hot spares can increase RELIABILITY. The only advantage to having a hot spare is that when a drive fails (and they all fail eventually), the REPLACE operation can start immediately without you noticing and manually replacing the failed drive. Reliability is a combination of reduction in MTBF (mean time between failure) and MTTR (mean time to repair). Having a hot spare reduces the MTTR. The other way to improve MTTR is to go with smaller drives to recede the time it takes the system to resilver a failed drive. This is NOT applicable in the OP's situation. I try very hard not so use drives larger than 1TB because resilver times can be days. Resilver time also depends on the total size of the the data in a zpool, as a resolver operation walks the FS in time, replaying all the writes and confirming that all the data on disk is good (it does not actually rewrite the data unless it finds bad data). This means a couple things, the first of which is that the resilver time will be dependent on the amount of data you have written, not the capacity. A zppol with a capacity of multiple TB will resilver in seconds if there is only a few hundred MB written to it. Since the resilver operation is not just a block by block copy, but a replay, it is I/Ops limited not bandwidth limited. You might be able to stream sequential data from a drive at hundreds of MB/sec., but most SATA drives will not sustain more than one to two hundred RANDOM I/Ops (sequentially they can do much more). You can also set copies=2/3 just in case some errors occur, so ZFS can auto0repair the data. if you run ZFS over several LUNs this will make even more sense. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS install on a partition
On May 18, 2013, at 12:49 AM, kpn...@pobox.com wrote: On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:03:30PM -0400, Paul Kraus wrote: On May 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote: 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions. No. One of the biggest benefits of ZFS is the end to end data integrity. IF there is a silent fault in the HW RAID (it happens), ZFS will detect the corrupt data and note it. If you had a mirror or other redundant device, ZFS would then read the data from the *other* copy and rewrite the bad block (or mark that physical block bad and use another). I believe the copies=2 and copies=3 option exists to enable ZFS to self heal despite ZFS not being in charge of RAID. If ZFS only has a single LUN to work with, but the copies=2 or more option is set, then if ZFS detects an error it can still correct it. Yes, but …. What the copies=n parameter does is tell ZFS to make that many copies of every block written on the top level device. So if you set copies=2 and then write a 2MB file, it will take up 4MB of space since ZFS will keep two copies of it. ZFS will attempt to put them on different devices if it can, but there are no guarantees here. If you have a single vdev stripe and you lose that one device, you *will* lose all your data (assuming you did not have another backup copy someplace else). On the other hand, if the single device develops some bad blocks, with copies=2 you will *probably* not lose data as there will be other copies of those disk blocks elsewhere to recover from. From my experience on the ZFS Discuss lists, the place people seem to use copies=more than 1 are on laptops where they only have one drive and copies=more than1 is better than no protection at all, it is just not complete protection. This option is a dataset option, is inheritable by child datasets, and can be changed at any time affecting data written after the change. To get the full benefit you'll therefore want to set the option before putting data into the relevant dataset. You can change it any time and it will only effect data written from that point on. This can be useful if you have both high value data band low value and you can control when each is written. For example, you leave copies=1 for most of the time, then you want to save your wedding photos, so you set copies=3 and write all the wedding photos, you then set copies=1. You will have three copies of the wedding photos and one copy of everything else. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: ZFS install on a partition
The software RAID depends not only from the disks, but also from the changes on the OS, which will occur more frequently than an update of the firmware of the raid controller. So that makes the hardware raid more stable and reliable. Also the resources of the hardware raid are exclusively used by the raid controller, which is not true for a software raid. So I do not get your point of appointing that a software raid is same/better than the hardware one. About the second part - I point over both stability and reliability. Having a spare disk reduces the risk as the recovery operation will start as soon as a disk fails. It may sound paranoid, but still the possibility of a failing disk which is detected after 8, 12 or even 24 hours is pretty big. Not sure about your calculations, hope you trust them, but in my previous company we have a 3-4 months period when a disk fails almost every day on 2 year old servers, so trust me - I do NOT trust those calculations, as I've seen the opposite. Maybe it was a failed batch of disk, shipped in the country, but no one is insured against this. Yes, you can use several hot spares on the software raid, but: 1. You still depend on the problems, related to the OS. 2. If you read what the mate asking has written - you will see that is not possible for him. I agree on the mentioned about recovering bid chunks of data, that's why I suggested that he uses several smaller LUNs for the zpool. Best regards, Ivailo Tanusheff -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Paul Kraus Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:02 PM To: Ivailo Tanusheff Cc: Liste FreeBSD Subject: Re: ZFS install on a partition On May 18, 2013, at 3:21 AM, Ivailo Tanusheff ivailo.tanush...@skrill.com wrote: If you use HBA/JBOD then you will rely on the software RAID of the ZFS system. Yes, this RAID is good, but unless you use SSD disks to boost performance and a lot of RAM the hardware raid should be more reliable and mush faster. Why will the hardware raid be more reliable ? While hardware raid is susceptible to uncorrectable errors from the physical drives (hardware raid controllers rely on the drives to report bad reads and writes), and the uncorrectable error rate for modern drives is such that with high capacity drives (1TB and over) you are almost certain to run into a couple over the operational life of the drive. 10^-14 for cheap drives and 10^-15 for better drives, very occasionally I see a drive rated for 10^-16. Run the math and see how many TB worth of data you have to write and read (remember these failures are generally read failures with NO indication that a failure occurred, bad data is just returned to the system). In terms of performance HW raid is faster, generally due to the cache RAM built into the HW raid controller. ZFS makes good use of system, RAM for the same function. An SSD can help with performance if the majority of writes are sync (NFS is a good example of this) or if you can benefit from a much larger read cache. SSDs are deployed with ZFS as either write LOG devices (in which case they should be mirrored), but they only come into play for SYNC writes; and as an extension of the ARC, the L2ARC, which does not have to be mirrored as it is only a cache of existing data for spying up reads. I didn't get if you want to use the system to dual boot Linux/FreeBSD or just to share FreeBSD space with linux. But I would advise you to go with option 1 - you will get most of the system and obviously you don't need zpool with raid, as your LSI controller will do all the redundancy for you. Making software RAID over the hardware one will only decrease performance and will NOT increase the reliability, as you will not be sure which information is stored on which physical disk. If stability is a MUST, then I will also advise you to go with bunch of pools and a disk designated as hot spare - in case some disk dies you will rely on the automation recovery. Also you should run monitoring tool on your raid controller. I think you misunderstand the difference between stability and reliability. Any ZFS configuration I have tried on FreeBSD is STABLE, having redundant vdevs (mirrors or RAIDzn) along with hot spares can increase RELIABILITY. The only advantage to having a hot spare is that when a drive fails (and they all fail eventually), the REPLACE operation can start immediately without you noticing and manually replacing the failed drive. Reliability is a combination of reduction in MTBF (mean time between failure) and MTTR (mean time to repair). Having a hot spare reduces the MTTR. The other way to improve MTTR is to go with smaller drives to recede the time it takes the system to resilver a failed drive. This is NOT applicable in the OP's situation. I try very hard not so use drives larger than 1TB because
ZFS install on a partition
Hi, I have a question regarding ZFS install on a system setup using an Intel Modular. This system runs various flavor of FreeBSD and Linux using a shared pool (LUNs). These LUNs have been configured in RAID 6 using the internal controller (LSI logic). So from the OS point of view there is just a volume available. I know I should install a system using HBA and JBOD configuration - but unfortunately this is not an option for this server. What would you advise ? 1. Can I use an existing partition and setup ZFS on this partition using a standard Zpool (no RAID). 2. Should I use any other solution in order to setup this (like full ZFS install on disk using the entire pool with ZFS). 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions. P.S. Stability is a must for this system - so I won't die if you answer 3 and tell me to keep on using UFS. Thanks. «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS install on a partition
Your hardware raid should be faster than ZFS raid. Don't use zfs raid because there will be no benefit. You'll get the performance of software raid using CPU time, along with lost space for already backed up data. ZFS should work fine. A lot of the tuning on the wiki page isn't needed anymore, so it's not too bad. The biggest thing to be careful with is upgrading your zpool, every so often your boot blocks may need updated and if you forget, you can't boot. You won't upgrade your pool often of course. Reliability shouldn't be an issue, it's FreeBSD. ZFS will make it easier to play around with jails, have fun and create a 1000 node beowulf on one system. On 5/17/2013 5:24 PM, b...@todoo.biz wrote: Hi, I have a question regarding ZFS install on a system setup using an Intel Modular. This system runs various flavor of FreeBSD and Linux using a shared pool (LUNs). These LUNs have been configured in RAID 6 using the internal controller (LSI logic). So from the OS point of view there is just a volume available. I know I should install a system using HBA and JBOD configuration - but unfortunately this is not an option for this server. What would you advise ? 1. Can I use an existing partition and setup ZFS on this partition using a standard Zpool (no RAID). 2. Should I use any other solution in order to setup this (like full ZFS install on disk using the entire pool with ZFS). 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions. P.S. Stability is a must for this system - so I won't die if you answer 3 and tell me to keep on using UFS. Thanks. «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS install on a partition
On May 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote: I know I should install a system using HBA and JBOD configuration - but unfortunately this is not an option for this server. I ran many ZFS pools on top of hardware raid units, because that is what we had. It works fine and the NVRAM write cache of the better hardware raid systems give you a performance boost. What would you advise ? 1. Can I use an existing partition and setup ZFS on this partition using a standard Zpool (no RAID). Sure. Be careful when you say RAID… I assume you mean RAIDzn configured top level vdevs. Remember, a mirror is RAID-1 and the base ZFS striping is considered RAID-0. So set it up as plain stripe of one vdev :-) 2. Should I use any other solution in order to setup this (like full ZFS install on disk using the entire pool with ZFS). If the system is configured with existing LUNS use them. 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions. No. One of the biggest benefits of ZFS is the end to end data integrity. IF there is a silent fault in the HW RAID (it happens), ZFS will detect the corrupt data and note it. If you had a mirror or other redundant device, ZFS would then read the data from the *other* copy and rewrite the bad block (or mark that physical block bad and use another). P.S. Stability is a must for this system - so I won't die if you answer 3 and tell me to keep on using UFS. ZFS is stable, it is NOT as tuned as UFS just due to age. UFS in all of it's various incarnations has been tuned far more than any filesystem has any right to be. I spent many years managing Solaris system and I was truly amazed at how tuned the Solaris version of UFS was. I have been running a number of 9.0 and 9.1 servers in production, all running ZFS for both OS and data, with no FS related issues. Thanks. «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS install on a partition
On 18 May 2013, at 01:15, Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: Your hardware raid should be faster than ZFS raid. Don't use zfs raid because there will be no benefit. Self healing much ? I wouldn't dream of dropping it for a 20mb/s performance increase from a HW controller. What if the controller derps and writes bad data ? You'll get the performance of software raid using CPU time, along with lost space for already backed up data. ZFS should work fine. A lot of the tuning on the wiki page isn't needed anymore, so it's not too bad. The biggest thing to be careful with is upgrading your zpool, every so often your boot blocks may need updated and if you forget, you can't boot. You won't upgrade your pool often of course. Reliability shouldn't be an issue, it's FreeBSD. ZFS will make it easier to play around with jails, have fun and create a 1000 node beowulf on one system. On 5/17/2013 5:24 PM, b...@todoo.biz wrote: Hi, I have a question regarding ZFS install on a system setup using an Intel Modular. This system runs various flavor of FreeBSD and Linux using a shared pool (LUNs). These LUNs have been configured in RAID 6 using the internal controller (LSI logic). So from the OS point of view there is just a volume available. I know I should install a system using HBA and JBOD configuration - but unfortunately this is not an option for this server. What would you advise ? 1. Can I use an existing partition and setup ZFS on this partition using a standard Zpool (no RAID). 2. Should I use any other solution in order to setup this (like full ZFS install on disk using the entire pool with ZFS). 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions. P.S. Stability is a must for this system - so I won't die if you answer 3 and tell me to keep on using UFS. Thanks. «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS install on a partition
Thanks for this documented answer. Couple of comments though… Le 18 mai 2013 à 02:03, Paul Kraus p...@kraus-haus.org a écrit : On May 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote: I know I should install a system using HBA and JBOD configuration - but unfortunately this is not an option for this server. I ran many ZFS pools on top of hardware raid units, because that is what we had. It works fine and the NVRAM write cache of the better hardware raid systems give you a performance boost. What would you advise ? 1. Can I use an existing partition and setup ZFS on this partition using a standard Zpool (no RAID). Sure. Be careful when you say RAID… I assume you mean RAIDzn configured top level vdevs. Remember, a mirror is RAID-1 and the base ZFS striping is considered RAID-0. So set it up as plain stripe of one vdev :-) Ok so I'll use a dedicated volume (LUN) and install it as a RAID-0 vdev. 2. Should I use any other solution in order to setup this (like full ZFS install on disk using the entire pool with ZFS). If the system is configured with existing LUNS use them. 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions. No. One of the biggest benefits of ZFS is the end to end data integrity. IF there is a silent fault in the HW RAID (it happens), ZFS will detect the corrupt data and note it. If you had a mirror or other redundant device, ZFS would then read the data from the *other* copy and rewrite the bad block (or mark that physical block bad and use another). P.S. Stability is a must for this system - so I won't die if you answer 3 and tell me to keep on using UFS. ZFS is stable, it is NOT as tuned as UFS just due to age. UFS in all of it's various incarnations has been tuned far more than any filesystem has any right to be. I spent many years managing Solaris system and I was truly amazed at how tuned the Solaris version of UFS was. I have been running a number of 9.0 and 9.1 servers in production, all running ZFS for both OS and data, with no FS related issues. Ok - great answer. I have setup a FreeNAS ZFS appliance (running native HBAs + JBOD) and used it as a backup solution using snapshots. This is why I wanted to have ZFS at first. If you have any other advise - they are welcome. Thanks a lot. GB. Thanks. «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS install on a partition
Le 18 mai 2013 à 06:49, kpn...@pobox.com a écrit : On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:03:30PM -0400, Paul Kraus wrote: On May 17, 2013, at 6:24 PM, b...@todoo.biz b...@todoo.biz wrote: 3. Should I avoid using ZFS since my system is not well tuned and It would be asking for trouble to use ZFS in these conditions. No. One of the biggest benefits of ZFS is the end to end data integrity. IF there is a silent fault in the HW RAID (it happens), ZFS will detect the corrupt data and note it. If you had a mirror or other redundant device, ZFS would then read the data from the *other* copy and rewrite the bad block (or mark that physical block bad and use another). I believe the copies=2 and copies=3 option exists to enable ZFS to self heal despite ZFS not being in charge of RAID. If ZFS only has a single LUN to work with, but the copies=2 or more option is set, then if ZFS detects an error it can still correct it. This option is a dataset option, is inheritable by child datasets, and can be changed at any time affecting data written after the change. To get the full benefit you'll therefore want to set the option before putting data into the relevant dataset. Ok, good to know. I planned to setup a consistent Snapshot policy and remote backup using zfs send / receive That should be enough for me… Is the overhead of this setup equal to double size used on disk ? -- Kevin P. Nealhttp://www.pobox.com/~kpn/ Nonbelievers found it difficult to defend their position in \ the presense of a working computer. -- a DEC Jensen paper «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - BSD - «?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§«?»¥«?»§ PGP ID -- 0x1BA3C2FD ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [offtopic] ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
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Re: ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
On 13-05-13 07:58, Trond Endrestøl wrote: On Sun, 12 May 2013 23:11+0200, Roland van Laar wrote: Hello, I followed these[1] step up to the Finishing touches. I'm using a 9.1 Release. After the install I go into the shell and /mnt is empty. The mount command shows that the zfs partitions are mounted. When I reboot the system it can't find the bootloader. What can I do to fix this? Thanks, Roland van Laar [1] https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/9.0-RELEASE Looking through the wiki notes I would do a couple of things in a different way. Since you're running 9.1-RELEASE you should take into account the need for the /boot/zfs/zpool.cache file until 9.2-RELEASE exist or you switch to the latest 9-STABLE. Create your zpool using a command like this one: zpool create -o cachefile=/tmp/zpool.cache -m /tmp/zroot zroot /dev/gpt/disk0 Copy the /tmp/zpool.cache file to /tmp/zroot/boot/zfs/zpool.cache, or in your case to /mnt/boot/zfs/zpool.cache after extracting the base and kernel stuff. In the wiki section Finishing touches, perform step 4 before step 3. The final command missing in step 3 should be zfs unmount -a once more. Avoid step 5 at all cost! Maybe this recipe is easier to follow, it sure works for 9.0-RELEASE and 9.1-RELEASE, I only hope you're happy typing long commands, and yes, command line editing is available in the shell: https://ximalas.info/2011/10/17/zfs-root-fs-on-freebsd-9-0/ Thank you for that link. This worked (better). I'm getting into the 'mountroot' shell during the boot. Oh well, I'm getting better at this. The ZFS guides on the wiki leave you with a empty root zfs filesystem after the installation. After I know a bit more about ZFS and why the FreeBSD wiki is wrong on ZFS installation I hope to edit them. Thank you all for your answers, Regards, Roland van Laar ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [offtopic] ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
I responded to Trond privately. On May 15, 2013, at 2:25 AM, Trond Endrestøl trond.endres...@fagskolen.gjovik.no wrote: Am I the only one to receive these emails twice, delayed only by a couple of days since receiving the original emails? Judging be the headers below this is either misconfiguration, a MITM attack or something else. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [offtopic] ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
On 15/05/2013 15:55, Trond Endrestøl wrote: Am I the only one to receive these emails twice, delayed only by a couple of days since receiving the original emails? Judging be the headers below this is either misconfiguration, a MITM attack or something else. yes I got a duplicate of the original message. I just noticed that I also some got duplicates of pr responses. In pr/178505 the closed message is listed before the commit which is time stamped just before the close and then there is a duplicate of my response listed after the commit. Now I'm thinking it may be me, maybe my copy of thunderbird didn't save the sent status and resent duplicates? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
On May 14, 2013, at 12:10 AM, Shane Ambler free...@shaneware.biz wrote: When it comes to disk compression I think people overlook the fact that it can impact on more than one level. Compression has effects at multiple levels: 1) CPU resources to compress (and decompress) the data 2) Disk space used 3) I/O to/from disks The size of disks these days means that compression doesn't make a big difference to storage capacity for most people and 4k blocks mean little change in final disk space used. The 4K block issue is *huge* if the majority of your data is less than 4K files. It is also large when you consider that a 5K file will not occupy 8K on disk. I am not a UFS on FreeBSD expert, but UFS on Solaris uses a default block size of 4K but has a fragment size of 1K. So files are stored on disk with 1K resolution (so to speak). By going to a 4K minimum block size you are forcing all data up to the next 4K boundary. Now, if the majority of your data is in large files (1MB or more), then the 4K minimum black size probably gets lost in the noise. The other factor is the actual compressibility of the data. Most media files (JPEG, MPEG, GIF, PNG, MP3, AAC, etc.) are already compressed and trying to compress them again is not likely to garner any real reduction inn size. In my experience with the default compression algorithm (lzjb), even uncompressed audio files (.AIFF or .WAV) do not compress enough to make the CPU overhead worthwhile. One thing people seem to miss is the fact that compressed files are going to reduce the amount of data sent through the bottle neck that is the wire between motherboard and drive. While a 3k file compressed to 1k still uses a 4k block on disk it does (should) reduce the true data transferred to disk. Given a 9.1 source tree using 865M, if it compresses to 400M then it is going to reduce the time to read the entire tree during compilation. This would impact a 32 thread build more than a 4 thread build. If the data does not compress well, then you get hit with the CPU overhead of compression to no bandwidth or space benefit. How compressible is the source tree ? [Not a loaded question, I haven't tried to compress it] While it is said that compression adds little overhead, time wise, Compression most certainly DOES add overhead in terms of time, based on the speed of your CPU and how busy your system is. My home server is an HP Proliant Micro with a dual core AMD N36 running at 1.3 GHz. Turning on compression hurts performance *if* I am getting less than 1.2:1 compression ratio (5 drive RAIDz2 of 1TB Enterprise disks). Above that the I/O bandwidth reduction due to the compression makes up for the lost CPU cycles. I have managed servers where each case prevailed… CPU limited so compression hurt performance and I/O limited where compression helped performance. it is going to take time to compress the data which is going to increase latency. Going from a 6ms platter disk latency to a 0.2ms SSD latency gives a noticeable improvement to responsiveness. Adding compression is going to bring that back up - possibly higher than 6ms. Interesting point. I am not sure of the data flow through the code to know if compression has a defined latency component, or is just throughput limited by CPU cycles to do the compression. Together these two factors may level out the total time to read a file. One question there is whether the zfs cache uses compressed file data therefore keeping the latency while eliminating the bandwidth. Data cached in the ZFS ARC or L2ARC is uncompressed. Data sent via zfs send / zfs receive is uncompressed; there had been talk of an option to send / receive compressed data, but I do not think it has gone anywhere. Personally I have compression turned off (desktop). My thought is that the latency added for compression would negate the bandwidth savings. For a file server I would consider turning it on as network overhead is going to hide the latency. Once again, it all depends on the compressibility of the data, the available CPU resources, the speed of the CPU resources, and the I/O bandwidth to/from the drives. Note also that RAIDz (RAIDz2, RAIDz3) have their own computational overhead, so compression may be a bigger advantage in this case than in the case of a mirror, as the RAID code will have less data to process after being compressed. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
On May 13, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Trond Endrestøl trond.endres...@fagskolen.gjovik.no wrote: Due to advances in hard drive technology, for the worse I'm afraid, i.e. 4K disk blocks, I wouldn't bother enabling compression on any ZFS file systems. I might change my blog posts to reflect this stop gap. If you do happen to have 4K drives, you might want to check out this blog post: https://ximalas.info/2012/01/11/new-server-and-first-attempt-at-running-freebsdamd64-with-zfs-for-all-storage/ I did look, it doesn't explain why not to enable compression on 4k sector drives. From discussion on the zfs-discuss lists (both the old one from OpenSolaris and the new one at Illumos) the only issue with 4K sector drives is mixing 0.5K sector and 4K sector drives. You can tunes the zpool offset to handle 4K sector drives just fine, but it is a pool wide tuning. http://zfsday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Why-4k_.pdf has some 4K background, and the only mention I see of compression and 4K is that you may get less. But… you really need to test your data to see if turning compression on is beneficial with any dataset. There is noticeable computational overhead to enabling compression. If you are CPU bound, then you will get better performance with compression off. If you are limited by the I/O bandwidth to your drives, then *if* your data is highly compressible, then you will get better performance with compression on. I have managed large pools of both data that compresses well and data that does not. http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/ZFS+and+Advanced+Format+disks discusses the issue and presents solutions using Illumos. I could find no such examples for FreeBSD, but I'm sure some of the same techniques would work (manually setting the ashift to 12 for 4K disks). -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
On Mon, 13 May 2013 08:40-0400, Paul Kraus wrote: On May 13, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Trond Endrestøl trond.endres...@fagskolen.gjovik.no wrote: Due to advances in hard drive technology, for the worse I'm afraid, i.e. 4K disk blocks, I wouldn't bother enabling compression on any ZFS file systems. I might change my blog posts to reflect this stop gap. If you do happen to have 4K drives, you might want to check out this blog post: https://ximalas.info/2012/01/11/new-server-and-first-attempt-at-running-freebsdamd64-with-zfs-for-all-storage/ I did look, it doesn't explain why not to enable compression on 4k sector drives. I guess it's due to my (mis)understanding that files shorter than 4KB stored on 4K drives never will be subject to compression. And as you state below, the degree of compression depends largely on the data at hand. From discussion on the zfs-discuss lists (both the old one from OpenSolaris and the new one at Illumos) the only issue with 4K sector drives is mixing 0.5K sector and 4K sector drives. You can tunes the zpool offset to handle 4K sector drives just fine, but it is a pool wide tuning. http://zfsday.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Why-4k_.pdf has some 4K background, and the only mention I see of compression and 4K is that you may get less. But? you really need to test your data to see if turning compression on is beneficial with any dataset. There is noticeable computational overhead to enabling compression. If you are CPU bound, then you will get better performance with compression off. If you are limited by the I/O bandwidth to your drives, then *if* your data is highly compressible, then you will get better performance with compression on. I have managed large pools of both data that compresses well and data that does not. http://wiki.illumos.org/display/illumos/ZFS+and+Advanced+Format+disks discusses the issue and presents solutions using Illumos. I could find no such examples for FreeBSD, but I'm sure some of the same techniques would work (manually setting the ashift to 12 for 4K disks). -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
On May 13, 2013, at 9:25 AM, Trond Endrestøl trond.endres...@fagskolen.gjovik.no wrote: I guess it's due to my (mis)understanding that files shorter than 4KB stored on 4K drives never will be subject to compression. And as you state below, the degree of compression depends largely on the data at hand. Not a misunderstanding at all. With a 4K minimum block size (which is what a 4K sector size implies), a file less than 4KB will not compress at all. While ZFS does have a variable block size (512B to 128KB), with a 4K minimum black size (just like with any fixed block FS with a 4KB block size), small files take up more pace than they should (a 1KB file takes up an entire 4KB block). This ends up being an artifact of the block size and not ZFS, any FS on a 4K sector drive will have similar behavior. I leave compression off on most of my datasets, only turning it on on ones where I see a real benefit. /var compresses vert well (I turn off compression in /etc/newsyslog.conf and let ZFS compress even the current logs :-), I find that some VM's compress very well, media files do NOT compress very well (they tend to already be compressed), generic data compresses well, as do scanned documents (uncompressed PDFs). Your individual results will vary :-) Also remember, if you start with compression on and after a while you are not seeing good compression ratios, go ahead and turn it off. The already written data will remain compressed but new writes will not be. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
On Mon, 13 May 2013 08:40-0400, Paul Kraus wrote: On May 13, 2013, at 1:58 AM, Trond Endrestøl wrote: Due to advances in hard drive technology, for the worse I'm afraid, i.e. 4K disk blocks, I wouldn't bother enabling compression on any ZFS file systems. I might change my blog posts to reflect this stop gap. I guess it's due to my (mis)understanding that files shorter than 4KB stored on 4K drives never will be subject to compression. And as you state below, the degree of compression depends largely on the data at hand. I don't want to start a big discussion but want to express an opinion that others may think about. When it comes to disk compression I think people overlook the fact that it can impact on more than one level. The size of disks these days means that compression doesn't make a big difference to storage capacity for most people and 4k blocks mean little change in final disk space used. One thing people seem to miss is the fact that compressed files are going to reduce the amount of data sent through the bottle neck that is the wire between motherboard and drive. While a 3k file compressed to 1k still uses a 4k block on disk it does (should) reduce the true data transferred to disk. Given a 9.1 source tree using 865M, if it compresses to 400M then it is going to reduce the time to read the entire tree during compilation. This would impact a 32 thread build more than a 4 thread build. While it is said that compression adds little overhead, time wise, it is going to take time to compress the data which is going to increase latency. Going from a 6ms platter disk latency to a 0.2ms SSD latency gives a noticeable improvement to responsiveness. Adding compression is going to bring that back up - possibly higher than 6ms. Together these two factors may level out the total time to read a file. One question there is whether the zfs cache uses compressed file data therefore keeping the latency while eliminating the bandwidth. Personally I have compression turned off (desktop). My thought is that the latency added for compression would negate the bandwidth savings. For a file server I would consider turning it on as network overhead is going to hide the latency. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
Hello, I followed these[1] step up to the Finishing touches. I'm using a 9.1 Release. After the install I go into the shell and /mnt is empty. The mount command shows that the zfs partitions are mounted. When I reboot the system it can't find the bootloader. What can I do to fix this? Thanks, Roland van Laar [1] https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/9.0-RELEASE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ZFS mirror install /mnt is empty
On Sun, 12 May 2013 23:11+0200, Roland van Laar wrote: Hello, I followed these[1] step up to the Finishing touches. I'm using a 9.1 Release. After the install I go into the shell and /mnt is empty. The mount command shows that the zfs partitions are mounted. When I reboot the system it can't find the bootloader. What can I do to fix this? Thanks, Roland van Laar [1] https://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/9.0-RELEASE Looking through the wiki notes I would do a couple of things in a different way. Since you're running 9.1-RELEASE you should take into account the need for the /boot/zfs/zpool.cache file until 9.2-RELEASE exist or you switch to the latest 9-STABLE. Create your zpool using a command like this one: zpool create -o cachefile=/tmp/zpool.cache -m /tmp/zroot zroot /dev/gpt/disk0 Copy the /tmp/zpool.cache file to /tmp/zroot/boot/zfs/zpool.cache, or in your case to /mnt/boot/zfs/zpool.cache after extracting the base and kernel stuff. In the wiki section Finishing touches, perform step 4 before step 3. The final command missing in step 3 should be zfs unmount -a once more. Avoid step 5 at all cost! Maybe this recipe is easier to follow, it sure works for 9.0-RELEASE and 9.1-RELEASE, I only hope you're happy typing long commands, and yes, command line editing is available in the shell: https://ximalas.info/2011/10/17/zfs-root-fs-on-freebsd-9-0/ Due to advances in hard drive technology, for the worse I'm afraid, i.e. 4K disk blocks, I wouldn't bother enabling compression on any ZFS file systems. I might change my blog posts to reflect this stop gap. If you do happen to have 4K drives, you might want to check out this blog post: https://ximalas.info/2012/01/11/new-server-and-first-attempt-at-running-freebsdamd64-with-zfs-for-all-storage/ -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
memstick serial console install is completely illegible ... am I doing something wrong ?
I have the latest 9.1-RELEASE memstick image burned to a USB drive. I boot from that and connect to my device with a serial console. At some point, the installer asks me what terminal emulation I am using - I choose vt100. But then things go to hell ... I am not complaining that the screen draw is a bit weird, or that a lot of weird characters are used, etc. ... my problem is that I cannot even interact with it properly. The up and down arrows seem to be interpreted as enter, which makes choosing menu items impossible ... the partition editor is completely unusable since it is getting drawn all over the screen and I can't use the up and down arrow keys ... I thought vt100 would be the safest choice - what am I doing wrong here ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
make install and portinstall
I can`t install xorg when use cd to port dir and run make install clean Before make install clean I run make config-recursive and make fetch-recursive Here errors http://dpaste.com/1076927/ But portinstall can install xorg I not mutch experienced with free bsd, but what I doing wrong? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Installing new world failed (install -l)
What should I do in this situation? -- Eir Nym On 28 April 2013 23:36, Eir Nym eir...@gmail.com wrote: Since -l switch introduced into install(8), I can't build new FreeBSD box at all. I do following command set to build new box: (http://eroese.org/mkw.sh) 1) cd /usr/head/src svn up 2) make buildworld 3) make DESTDIR=/path/to/directory hierarchy distrib-dirs distribution installworld This worked for long time but after some point it had been broken. I found only 20130425 in UPDATING about this, but installing mergemaster gives nothing, obviously. I can't compile new install(8) since I have old system like FreeBSD-9-RELEASE (FreeBSD-CURRENT, r226748) and it doesn't have needed functions. The tail of install log is below. .. (lines removed) mtree -deU -f /usr/head/src/etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist -p /usr/home/root/logs/2013-04-28/16.18.03/distro.i386/ ./var/spool/clientmqueue missing (created) install -l s usr/src/sys /usr/home/root/logs/2013-04-28/16.18.03/distro.i386/sys install: illegal option -- l usage: install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** [distrib-dirs] Error code 64 Stop in /usr/head/src/etc. *** [hierarchy] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/head/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/head/src. -- Eir Nym ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 9 port XORG failed to install
Hi, colleagues! I am trying to install FreeBSD 9 to my notebook Acer Aspire V3-571G. Ports I am trying to install: /usr/ports/x11/xorg My issue is that build fails on an unclear reason. Workflow is: 1. Install FreeBSD 2. Install system updates 3. Download and extract latest ports cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make BATCH=YES install clean Please, help me on those questions: 1. How to fix this issue and build XORG properly 2. Are there any locations where I can take latest packages? (Using pkg_add -r package_name downloads rather old packages, I want the latest ones) == Regards, Vlad ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9 port XORG failed to install
Hi Савельев Владимир, El día Saturday, April 27, 2013 a las 08:59:36PM +0400, Савельев Владимир escribió: Hi, colleagues! I am trying to install FreeBSD 9 to my notebook Acer Aspire V3-571G. Ports I am trying to install: /usr/ports/x11/xorg My issue is that build fails on an unclear reason. Workflow is: 1. Install FreeBSD 2. Install system updates 3. Download and extract latest ports How do you do this exactly? From SVN? cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make BATCH=YES install clean Please show the last hundred lines of the output of this. Without messages nobody can help you. matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz | - No system with backdoors like Apple/Android E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | - Never being an iSlave WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | - No proprietary attachments, no HTML/RTF in E-mail phone: +49-170-4527211 | - Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Install TP-LINK TL-WDN4800 wireless network interface card
Good afternoon, dear FreeBSd enthusiasts. Is there anyone who has attempted to install a TP-LINK TL-WDN4800 p.c.i.-express wireless network interface card? I am using FreeBSD 9.1 on a Hewlett-Packard xw4400 workstation. The card works perfectly under Windows XP. However, it seems that the FreeBSD operating system does not even recognize the existence of the device; at least, I cannot find any mention of it in the dmesg.boot file. Any and all comments or suggestions will be appreciated. Also, many thanks to those of you who have responded to my previous inquiries. Yours truly, Newby Lee ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Install TP-LINK TL-WDN4800 wireless network interface card
You'll need to run -CURRENT instead of 9.1, and all the caveats that apply. You'll also need the special HAL that hasn't yet been commited to -CURRENT. There are instructions on the freebsd-wireless mailing list. I'm using that exact card right now. Run `pciconf -lv` and you should see it, but there's no driver in 9.1. On 4/10/2013 3:39 PM, leeoliveshackelf...@surewest.net wrote: Good afternoon, dear FreeBSd enthusiasts. Is there anyone who has attempted to install a TP-LINK TL-WDN4800 p.c.i.-express wireless network interface card? I am using FreeBSD 9.1 on a Hewlett-Packard xw4400 workstation. The card works perfectly under Windows XP. However, it seems that the FreeBSD operating system does not even recognize the existence of the device; at least, I cannot find any mention of it in the dmesg.boot file. Any and all comments or suggestions will be appreciated. Also, many thanks to those of you who have responded to my previous inquiries. Yours truly, Newby Lee ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD 8.1 install on Intel Romley platform
Dear Sir/Madam, We are facing a problem to install FreeBSD8.1 on Intel Romley platform, SAS HDD could not be detected. While we tried FreeBSD 9.1, it has no problem. However, our Firewall application only work on FreeBSD 8.1 and 8.3. Is there any driver or kernel update that we can integrate to let FreeBSD 8.1 install successfully? Best Regards, Belle Kuo Product Management Wiwynn Corporation Address: 8F, No. 90, Sec. 1, Xintai 5th Rd., Xizhi Dist., New Taipei City 22102, Taiwan Direct: +886 2-6612-3010 Mobile: +886 933 667688 Facsimile: +886 2 6615-8999 Email: belle_...@wiwynn.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.1 install on Intel Romley platform
On 03/20/13 12:44, belle_...@wiwynn.com wrote: We are facing a problem to install FreeBSD8.1 8.1 is not supported anymore; I don't think you'll get much help. our Firewall application only work on FreeBSD 8.1 and 8.3. 8.3 is still supported, so I'd move on to that one. SAS HDD could not be detected. While we tried FreeBSD 9.1, it has no problem. So, how does 9.1 detect it? However, Is there any driver or kernel update that we can integrate to let FreeBSD 8.1 install successfully? Perhaps you could post the dmesg at boot from 9.1. This could give the list some useful info. bye av. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Looks Like New Changes To 'install' Break Mergemaster
$ mergemaster -Fi *** The directory specified for the temporary root environment, /var/tmp/temproot, exists. This can be a security risk if untrusted users have access to the system. Use 'd' to delete the old /var/tmp/temproot and continue Use 't' to select a new temporary root directory Use 'e' to exit mergemaster Default is to use /var/tmp/temproot as is How should I deal with this? [Use the existing /var/tmp/temproot] d *** Deleting the old /var/tmp/temproot *** Creating the temporary root environment in /var/tmp/temproot *** /var/tmp/temproot ready for use *** Creating and populating directory structure in /var/tmp/temproot install: illegal option -- l usage: install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src and install files to the temproot environment ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looks Like New Changes To 'install' Break Mergemaster
On 03/17/2013 02:36 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: $ mergemaster -Fi *** The directory specified for the temporary root environment, /var/tmp/temproot, exists. This can be a security risk if untrusted users have access to the system. Use 'd' to delete the old /var/tmp/temproot and continue Use 't' to select a new temporary root directory Use 'e' to exit mergemaster Default is to use /var/tmp/temproot as is How should I deal with this? [Use the existing /var/tmp/temproot] d *** Deleting the old /var/tmp/temproot *** Creating the temporary root environment in /var/tmp/temproot *** /var/tmp/temproot ready for use *** Creating and populating directory structure in /var/tmp/temproot install: illegal option -- l usage: install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src and install files to the temproot environment More specifically, running 'sh -x mergemaster' show us this: ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org + cd /usr/src + od=/var/tmp/temproot/usr/obj + make -m /usr/src/share/mk DESTDIR=/var/tmp/temproot distrib-dirs + MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/var/tmp/temproot/usr/obj make -m /usr/src/share/mk _obj SUBDIR_OVERRIDE=etc + MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/var/tmp/temproot/usr/obj make -m /usr/src/share/mk everything SUBDIR_OVERRIDE=etc + MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/var/tmp/temproot/usr/obj make -m /usr/src/share/mk DESTDIR=/var/tmp/temproot distribution install: illegal option -- l usage: install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-bCcMpSsv] [-B suffix] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-v] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... + echo '' + echo ' *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot '\''cd'\'' to /usr/src and install files to' *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src and install files to + echo ' the temproot environment' the temproot environment + echo '' + exit 1 -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Looks Like New Changes To 'install' Break Mergemaster
On 03/17/2013 02:52 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: PR 177055 submitted. -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does anyone know how to install FreeBSD 8.3 under Virtual Box 4.2.6?
On Mar 1, 2013, at 2:04 AM, Richard Sharpe realrichardsha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I booted the FreeBSD 8.3 DVD1 under Virtual Box, but it crashes in VB 4.2.6 under Win 7 and Linux. Can you install *other* Guest OSes under VBox on these hosts ? I have been running lots of 9.0 VMs under VBox with only minor issues :-) -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Cannot install on HP Pavilion
On 02/25/2013 16:50, Jeff Tipton wrote: On 02/25/2013 22:39, Russell Murphy wrote: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed Isn't this a BIOS message about a failing harddisk? http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Desktop-Operating-Systems-e-g-Windows-8-Software-Recovery/Error-no-boot-disk-has-been-detected-or-the-disk-has-failed/td-p/1495065 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Are you sure the bootloader installed correctly? Also, in the bios, what is the drive type set to? I've seen that happen on a Lenovo when the drive type is set to AHCI. Changing it to either legacy or normal (don't recall which one) allowed the machine to boot from the hard disk without issue. -- Butch Why is there never time to do it right the first time, but there is always time to do it again? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Does anyone know how to install FreeBSD 8.3 under Virtual Box 4.2.6?
Hi, I booted the FreeBSD 8.3 DVD1 under Virtual Box, but it crashes in VB 4.2.6 under Win 7 and Linux. Seems to install OK on QEMU/VMM under Linux ... Does anyone know how to get it to run under Virtual Box? -- Regards, Richard Sharpe (何以解憂？唯有杜康。--曹操) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does anyone know how to install FreeBSD 8.3 under Virtual Box 4.2.6?
On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:04-0800, Richard Sharpe wrote: Hi, I booted the FreeBSD 8.3 DVD1 under Virtual Box, but it crashes in VB 4.2.6 under Win 7 and Linux. Seems to install OK on QEMU/VMM under Linux ... Does anyone know how to get it to run under Virtual Box? Ensure firmware settings (i.e. BIOS) allow for hw virtualization. You don't specify if you are attempting i386 or amd64. VB needs to know if you're running a 32 bit or 64 bit guest OS. A higher degree of details would be nice. -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Does anyone know how to install FreeBSD 8.3 under Virtual Box 4.2.6?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:29 PM, Trond Endrestøl trond.endres...@fagskolen.gjovik.no wrote: On Thu, 28 Feb 2013 23:04-0800, Richard Sharpe wrote: Hi, I booted the FreeBSD 8.3 DVD1 under Virtual Box, but it crashes in VB 4.2.6 under Win 7 and Linux. Seems to install OK on QEMU/VMM under Linux ... Does anyone know how to get it to run under Virtual Box? Ensure firmware settings (i.e. BIOS) allow for hw virtualization. Thanks Trond. I assume you mean the host here. Since it has installed under QEMU/vmm on Linux, I guess that I have HW Virtualization enabled. Actually, I know that this is the case, since I have run OpenIndianna under Virtual Box as well as Windows Server 2008. You don't specify if you are attempting i386 or amd64. True. AMD64. Maybe I need to check that. VB needs to know if you're running a 32 bit or 64 bit guest OS. A higher degree of details would be nice. -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++ -- Regards, Richard Sharpe (何以解憂？唯有杜康。--曹操) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
