Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
Yes.. Sadly the last snapshot doesn't work either. - Original Message - From: "Garrett Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Caio Figueiredo Abecia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Bill Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote: It seems to be a problem only on Dell E521/C521 Dimension models. Here are some of the places that I found talking about the same errors I'm having : ttp://blog.caraldi.com/jbq/2006/11/30/dont-buy-the-dell-e521-and-c521-computers/ http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=113130 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/106960 http://www.nabble.com/bin-40260-%22No-cd-dvd-devices-found!%22-t4025257.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/40260 Even in NetBSD I still have the same problem. Thanks for the quick response Bill. - Original Message - From: "Bill Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Caio Figueiredo Abecia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it In response to "Caio Figueiredo Abecia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm looking for a new pc. I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the same configuration) It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not detected at all. I have an Dell Optiplex GX520 here at work that runs FreeBSD 6.2 just fine. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com Sounds like a chipset issue. Have you tried using a CURRENT snapshot CD? -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
Predrag Punosevac wrote: Garrett Cooper wrote: Predrag Punosevac wrote: Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote: I'm looking for a new pc. I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the same configuration) It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not detected at all. I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that model on their website and I called to the vendors they said that this model would come without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to make my own choice on using any *unix SO. Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount that I payed. Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such Java or Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like Postgresql or MySql. I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine! (I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run Free or Open as my Desktop System) Could you guys please help me ? Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated Why not built one from the parts. That way you would save bundle of money and have the computer which will run FreeBSD without a hitch. That is what I did. Not everyone has this option, or the expertise. And some people like the warranty that comes from buying Dell products. -Garrett If I could do it, anybody can:-) Retail parts DO have manufacture warranty for at least 1 year - 3 years depends on the component . OMS and open box parts are significantly cheaper but usually come with a very limited warranty 1-3 months (basically Dead On Arrival warranty) Buying from the Dell might be a great good deal if you need lots of low grade desktop computers which will be heavily abused. (like the one we use in public libraries) I'm a large proponent of custom-built machines, but there are some cases (like with large companies or educational institutions) where it's simple not feasible to build every machine from scratch with parts, and dealing with Dell via their Gold / Corporate warranty and support is the way to go. That's what I was referring to. I know because I was 1st level IT support for a large department at the University of Washington with over 700~800 machines. There's no way a large amount of custom boxes really would work, and the handful that were present were a pain to deal with more often than not. Cheers, -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
Garrett Cooper wrote: Predrag Punosevac wrote: Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote: I'm looking for a new pc. I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the same configuration) It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not detected at all. I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that model on their website and I called to the vendors they said that this model would come without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to make my own choice on using any *unix SO. Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount that I payed. Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such Java or Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like Postgresql or MySql. I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine! (I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run Free or Open as my Desktop System) Could you guys please help me ? Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Why not built one from the parts. That way you would save bundle of money and have the computer which will run FreeBSD without a hitch. That is what I did. Not everyone has this option, or the expertise. And some people like the warranty that comes from buying Dell products. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" If I could do it, anybody can:-) Retail parts DO have manufacture warranty for at least 1 year - 3 years depends on the component . OMS and open box parts are significantly cheaper but usually come with a very limited warranty 1-3 months (basically Dead On Arrival warranty) Buying from the Dell might be a great good deal if you need lots of low grade desktop computers which will be heavily abused. (like the one we use in public libraries) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
Predrag Punosevac wrote: Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote: I'm looking for a new pc. I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the same configuration) It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not detected at all. I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that model on their website and I called to the vendors they said that this model would come without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to make my own choice on using any *unix SO. Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount that I payed. Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such Java or Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like Postgresql or MySql. I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine! (I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run Free or Open as my Desktop System) Could you guys please help me ? Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Why not built one from the parts. That way you would save bundle of money and have the computer which will run FreeBSD without a hitch. That is what I did. Not everyone has this option, or the expertise. And some people like the warranty that comes from buying Dell products. -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote: It seems to be a problem only on Dell E521/C521 Dimension models. Here are some of the places that I found talking about the same errors I'm having : ttp://blog.caraldi.com/jbq/2006/11/30/dont-buy-the-dell-e521-and-c521-computers/ http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=113130 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/106960 http://www.nabble.com/bin-40260-%22No-cd-dvd-devices-found!%22-t4025257.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/40260 Even in NetBSD I still have the same problem. Thanks for the quick response Bill. - Original Message - From: "Bill Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Caio Figueiredo Abecia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it In response to "Caio Figueiredo Abecia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm looking for a new pc. I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the same configuration) It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not detected at all. I have an Dell Optiplex GX520 here at work that runs FreeBSD 6.2 just fine. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com Sounds like a chipset issue. Have you tried using a CURRENT snapshot CD? -Garrett ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote: I'm not a expert in hardware.. I have some contacts that could help me to make a machine in parts. That's what you mean ? Sorry about the bad english. Could you give me a tip ? What configuration machine do you have maked in parts ? I want to do what you did. Have a machine running without problems Freebsd and maybe windows to run some things that I use in work. Thanks in advance man - Original Message - From: "Predrag Punosevac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Caio Figueiredo Abecia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote: I'm looking for a new pc. I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the same configuration) It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not detected at all. I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that model on their website and I called to the vendors they said that this model would come without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to make my own choice on using any *unix SO. Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount that I payed. Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such Java or Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like Postgresql or MySql. I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine! (I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run Free or Open as my Desktop System) Could you guys please help me ? Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Why not built one from the parts. That way you would save bundle of money and have the computer which will run FreeBSD without a hitch. That is what I did. I am not a native English speaker either:-) Well, I live in states so there are quite a few reliable internet hardware vendors. I like the best newegg.com but you have to check several to get best deals. There are also no sales taxes on internet sales in states. I wanted small but powerful workstation so I ordered Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E4300 it is in states around 120$ It has 775 connection pin so you obviously need a mother board supporting that pin. Motherboard is by far you most important decision so you would carefully have to look the specifications north bridge chip set shout bridge chip set sata controller chip set lan controller chip set on board audio on board video I could give you specification of my mother board but I think it would be better if you find one that you like it and than check each of the above against FreeBSD hardware database (see hardware notice for this) . You should also google your mother board since many people left they hardware specifications and how it behaves under FreeBSD. Probably you could get a solid one for about $120 even less. To get a server board you would probably need $250 at least. You need Hard Drive obviously ~ $40 for about 200Gb You already have RAM Now that also can restrict the choice of your motherboard because you want one that supports RAM you already have. Yours is probably DDR II 553 since it was bought for DeLL. I have DDR II 667 (2 x 1Gb dual channel kit obviously much faster)which I paid ~$50 You could even get DDR II 800 for couple extra bucks DVD-RW ~ $30 You need a good power supply ~ $10 Case, PS/2 mouse and keyboard~$30 So I spent about $400 dollars but my computer is no less than $1000 retail and all my parts are premium quality. The better the computer you want to build the more you would save. There is also a list of FreeBSD hardware vendors on freebsd.org web site. They are usually more expensive but you would get FreeBSD specific parts without any thinking Get an old CRT monitor from junk yard for testing purposes you will get one LCD latter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 10:41:31AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote: > >I'm looking for a new pc. > >I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension > >C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have > >the same configuration) > >It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not > >detected at all. > > > >I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that model on > >their website and I called to the vendors they said that this model would > >come without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to make my own choice on > >using any *unix SO. > > > >Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount that I > >payed. > > > >Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such Java > >or Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like Postgresql or > >MySql. > >I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine! > >(I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run Free or > >Open as my Desktop System) > > > >Could you guys please help me ? Try FreeBSD systems. http://www.freebsdsystems.com/ I have heard only good things about them. jerry > > > >Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated > >___ > >freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > Why not built one from the parts. That way you would save bundle of > money and have the computer which will run FreeBSD without a hitch. That > is what I did. > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
Caio Figueiredo Abecia wrote: I'm looking for a new pc. I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the same configuration) It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not detected at all. I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that model on their website and I called to the vendors they said that this model would come without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to make my own choice on using any *unix SO. Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount that I payed. Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such Java or Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like Postgresql or MySql. I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine! (I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run Free or Open as my Desktop System) Could you guys please help me ? Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Why not built one from the parts. That way you would save bundle of money and have the computer which will run FreeBSD without a hitch. That is what I did. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
It seems to be a problem only on Dell E521/C521 Dimension models. Here are some of the places that I found talking about the same errors I'm having : ttp://blog.caraldi.com/jbq/2006/11/30/dont-buy-the-dell-e521-and-c521-computers/ http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=113130 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=kern/106960 http://www.nabble.com/bin-40260-%22No-cd-dvd-devices-found!%22-t4025257.html http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/40260 Even in NetBSD I still have the same problem. Thanks for the quick response Bill. - Original Message - From: "Bill Moran" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Caio Figueiredo Abecia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:51 AM Subject: Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it In response to "Caio Figueiredo Abecia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm looking for a new pc. I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the same configuration) It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not detected at all. I have an Dell Optiplex GX520 here at work that runs FreeBSD 6.2 just fine. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
In response to "Caio Figueiredo Abecia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I'm looking for a new pc. > I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension > C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the > same configuration) > It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not > detected at all. I have an Dell Optiplex GX520 here at work that runs FreeBSD 6.2 just fine. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Looking for powerful machines that runs FreeBSD on it
I'm looking for a new pc. I had a problem installing BSD (Free/Open/Net!) with the Dell Dimension C521n. (Free/Open BSD website tells me that it support the E521 that have the same configuration) It don't recognize my dell usb keyboard and my SATA DVD Rom drive was not detected at all. I call Dell support and I was complaining that when I saw that model on their website and I called to the vendors they said that this model would come without SO (Windows). That I'll be free to make my own choice on using any *unix SO. Well.. now Dell will get my machine back and pay me back the amount that I payed. Now I want to buy a powerful machine to run Development things such Java or Ruby on Rails on JBoss, running in some good db like Postgresql or MySql. I don't want to get a new surprise to run only Windows on my machine! (I already have 2gb ddr2 ram, I want a powerful modern pc to run Free or Open as my Desktop System) Could you guys please help me ? Thanks a lot all help is greatly appreciated ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
