Re: Partitions greater than 1TB ?
It does the trick, thank you this could help http://romain.blogreen.org/Blog/Updating_FreeBSD_7_%28i386%29_to_8_%28amd64%29 On 01/25/2011 12:51 AM, Devin Teske wrote: On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 15:08 +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello I'm trying to install a new server ( HP Proliant 380 G7 ) which has a 2.5 TB RAID Array. It seems impossible to use the Freebsd sysinstall to partition this raid array disks. Correct. Currently sysinstall can only perform MBR partitioning (partitions limited to 2TB max). You want GPT partitioning. See gpart(8) -- Devin I get an error message when running the partitionner Error mounting /mnt/dev/da1s1e on /mnt/.user : input/output error Anyone has infos about this problem ? Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Frank BONNET 01.45.92.66.17 Service des Moyens Informatique Generaux ESIEE PARIS Cité Descartes / BP 99 93162 NOISY-LE-GRAND Cedex http://www.esiee.fr http://www.esiee.fr/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitions greater than 1TB ?
On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 15:08 +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello I'm trying to install a new server ( HP Proliant 380 G7 ) which has a 2.5 TB RAID Array. It seems impossible to use the Freebsd sysinstall to partition this raid array disks. Correct. Currently sysinstall can only perform MBR partitioning (partitions limited to 2TB max). You want GPT partitioning. See gpart(8) -- Devin I get an error message when running the partitionner Error mounting /mnt/dev/da1s1e on /mnt/.user : input/output error Anyone has infos about this problem ? Thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. _ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitions per slice limitation removed?
Hi, No, you were not dreaming. When in doubt, check the source. From head/sbin/bsdlabel/bsdlabel.c [1]: Allow bsdlabel to operate on labels that have at most 26 partitions by virtue of there not being any (lower-case) letters avaliable for more partitions. [1] http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=174501 Has anyone actually got that working? I just tried adding a 9th label on 8.0-RC2 with no luck. I tried both gpart and bsdlabel. silver% gpart show ad4s1 = 0 62914257 ad4s1 BSD (30G) 0 1048576 1 freebsd-ufs (512M) 1048576 2097152 2 freebsd-swap (1.0G) 3145728 14680064 4 freebsd-ufs (7.0G) 17825792 3145728 5 freebsd-ufs (1.5G) 20971520 1048576 6 freebsd-ufs (512M) 22020096 4194304 7 freebsd-ufs (2.0G) 26214400 4194304 8 freebsd-ufs (2.0G) 30408704 32505553 - free - (15G) silver% sudo gpart add -b 30408704 -s 32505553 -t freebsd-ufs ad4s1 gpart: index '9': No space left on device ...and if I specify the index manually I get this: silver% sudo gpart add -b 30408704 -s 32505553 -t freebsd-ufs -i 9 ad4s1 gpart: index '9': Invalid argument silver% uname -r 8.0-RC2 Perhaps this isn't going to make into 8.0-RELEASE after all or am I doing something wrong? Cheers, Andrew./ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 03:34:30PM -0800, Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) wrote: Thank all of you for really helpful answers. I am thinking about this configuration (might be helpful for someone in the future) a: / (root) 256 MB b: /swap 4096 MB d: /tmp768 MB e: /usr 8192 MB f: /var 2048 MB g: /home all the rest. Think that 8GB will be enough for /usr ports, local and build os from scratch, and 2GB for /var - in any case I can symlink some of those to /home Depends on what things you build. Some requite huge amounts of space. Openoffice is one example. Of course, for many of these, you can get prebuilt packages. jerry So we need about 15GB of free storage only for FreeBSD needs. Thx Alex -Original Message- From: Nikola Le??i?? [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:13 PM To: Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:26:41 -0800 Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikola, Thank you for your extender answer. I have two more comments. Did you consider /var as your email db partition. I really don???t know how big will be my mail db on freebsd, but after half of year I have about 4GB outlook mail db. So 1GB for /var might be not enough in my case. The hier(7) manpage is very useful to understand the default directory structure: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=hierapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+6.2-RELEASEformat=html As for mail, it depends on how you plan to receive and handle it; if you just download mail from pop3 account, it will be stored in your home by a mail client (this goes as well for mail you export from Outlook to e.g. Thunderbird). For locally (system) delivered mail, /var/spool is the default place, but unless you want yo use your laptop as a mail server, it's unlikely you will store your mail there. Having /home as part of /usr is the good point. But in case of backup it make sense to have /home as separate partition. What you think about this? Of course it's very useful for backups. I just thought it was useful to warn you about how much space /usr/ports could need because the default installation procedure on FreeBSD is to compile sources (of thirs party applications and of FreeBSD itself). As a useful example on how much space you might need, here are rough sizes on my home desktop computer, used for everyday work. I have ~850 ports installed. /usr/ports~2G (with current distfiles and packages that happen to be there + you will need at least 2-3G for large upgrades, sometimes 10G) /usr/local~5G (third party applications + additions such as TeXLive = ~1G) /usr/home~20G - /usr total used: ~30G (includes FreeBSD itself + some other smaller storages) If you plan to build FreeBSD itself in the future, then /usr must be even bigger. If all this leaves enough room for /home for you, then it's certainly very useful to make it separate partition. -- Nikola Le??i?? :: ?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am planning to install FreeBSD 6.2 on my dell laptop with 80Gb HDD and 2GB RAM. FreeBSD will be the only OS on the laptop. Laptop will be used to web development (RubyOnRails), entertaiment (photo, music, video), web browsing and emailing, so no server side task will be handled. How you suggest to split 80GB between partitions to solve all laptop tasks. Here is partitions: /root /var /usr /home /swap You might want to consider a single partition (other than swap). The only reason I separate partitions these days is to make backups easier. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
Why /var partition is so big? How it will be used? -Original Message- From: Frank Bonnet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:35 AM To: Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) Subject: Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) wrote: Hi all I am planning to install FreeBSD 6.2 on my dell laptop with 80Gb HDD and 2GB RAM. FreeBSD will be the only OS on the laptop. Laptop will be used to web development (RubyOnRails), entertaiment (photo, music, video), web browsing and emailing, so no server side task will be handled. How you suggest to split 80GB between partitions to solve all laptop tasks. Here is partitions: /root /var /usr /home /swap oops you miss the / partition ! I suggest / 2 Gb /var10 Gb /usr30 Gb swap2 Gb the rest for /root and /home -- Cordialement Frank Bonnet ESIEE Paris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:17:50 -0800 Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I am planning to install FreeBSD 6.2 on my dell laptop with 80Gb HDD and 2GB RAM. FreeBSD will be the only OS on the laptop. Laptop will be used to web development (RubyOnRails), entertaiment (photo, music, video), web browsing and emailing, so no server side task will be handled. How you suggest to split 80GB between partitions to solve all laptop tasks. Here is partitions: /root /var /usr /home /swap Hi Alexander, You can find the recommendations regarding partition sizes in Allocating Disk Space chapter of the FreeBSD Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html This means that your partition layout should be like this: / 512M swap 4096M (2x RAM) /tmp512M /var 1024M /usrrest /var's size depends, among other things, on how many logs you want to keep there (where they live by default); since your machine will not be a server, 512M should be ok. Please note that /var/db/, the default place for info about ports installed, occupies roughly 200M or more. /usr depends on how many applications you need to run. Please note that /usr is also the default place where applications will be compiled (inside /usr/ports) and where a lot of distfiles (sources) or (precompiled) packages will be stored, so huge upgrades can take a lot of place. [Some applications need ~500M (Firefox), ~1G (gcc42) or several gigabytes (OpenOffice) to compile. Distfiles can use 1-3G, depending on cleaning policy you choose.] Therefore, since you have 80G, it's not a bad idea to use /usr for /home as well (i.e. to have /usr only; home will be /usr/home, symlinked from /home). Otherwise, you can easily encounter too much (wasted) or too little free space on /usr. I've recently configured a laptop with the aforementioned partition sizes (with smaller swap). (Besides this, don't forget to read about the difference between dedicated and sliced disks in the Handbook.) Regards, -- Nikola Lečić :: Никола Лечић ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
Apologies, two corrections: On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:56:36 +0100 Nikola Lečić [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] /var's size depends, among other things, on how many logs you want to keep there (where they live by default); since your machine will not be a server, 512M should be ok. Please note that /var/db/, the default correction: /var/db/pkg place for info about ports installed, occupies roughly 200M or more. ^ (/var/db) /var/db/pkg alone is smaller, count on up to 100M. -- Nikola Lečić :: Никола Лечић ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
Nikola, Thank you for your extender answer. I have two more comments. Did you consider /var as your email db partition. I really don’t know how big will be my mail db on freebsd, but after half of year I have about 4GB outlook mail db. So 1GB for /var might be not enough in my case. Having /home as part of /usr is the good point. But in case of backup it make sense to have /home as separate partition. What you think about this? Thx Alex -Original Message- From: Nikola Lečić [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:57 AM To: Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:17:50 -0800 Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I am planning to install FreeBSD 6.2 on my dell laptop with 80Gb HDD and 2GB RAM. FreeBSD will be the only OS on the laptop. Laptop will be used to web development (RubyOnRails), entertaiment (photo, music, video), web browsing and emailing, so no server side task will be handled. How you suggest to split 80GB between partitions to solve all laptop tasks. Here is partitions: /root /var /usr /home /swap Hi Alexander, You can find the recommendations regarding partition sizes in Allocating Disk Space chapter of the FreeBSD Handbook (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/): http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-steps.html This means that your partition layout should be like this: / 512M swap 4096M (2x RAM) /tmp512M /var 1024M /usrrest /var's size depends, among other things, on how many logs you want to keep there (where they live by default); since your machine will not be a server, 512M should be ok. Please note that /var/db/, the default place for info about ports installed, occupies roughly 200M or more. /usr depends on how many applications you need to run. Please note that /usr is also the default place where applications will be compiled (inside /usr/ports) and where a lot of distfiles (sources) or (precompiled) packages will be stored, so huge upgrades can take a lot of place. [Some applications need ~500M (Firefox), ~1G (gcc42) or several gigabytes (OpenOffice) to compile. Distfiles can use 1-3G, depending on cleaning policy you choose.] Therefore, since you have 80G, it's not a bad idea to use /usr for /home as well (i.e. to have /usr only; home will be /usr/home, symlinked from /home). Otherwise, you can easily encounter too much (wasted) or too little free space on /usr. I've recently configured a laptop with the aforementioned partition sizes (with smaller swap). (Besides this, don't forget to read about the difference between dedicated and sliced disks in the Handbook.) Regards, -- Nikola Lečić :: Никола Лечић ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 11:26 -0800, Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) wrote: Nikola, Thank you for your extender answer. I have two more comments. Did you consider /var as your email db partition. I really don’t know how big will be my mail db on freebsd, but after half of year I have about 4GB outlook mail db. So 1GB for /var might be not enough in my case. Having /home as part of /usr is the good point. But in case of backup it make sense to have /home as separate partition. What you think about this? Thx Alex /home is just a symlink to /usr/home, so that wouldn't help. cd / ls -l lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel8 Nov 2 05:37 home - usr/home You might want to put /usr/home on a separate partition, but that's your call. James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 05:17:50PM -0800, Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) wrote: Hi all I am planning to install FreeBSD 6.2 on my dell laptop with 80Gb HDD and 2GB RAM. FreeBSD will be the only OS on the laptop. Laptop will be used to web development (RubyOnRails), entertaiment (photo, music, video), web browsing and emailing, so no server side task will be handled. How you suggest to split 80GB between partitions to solve all laptop tasks. Here is partitions: /root /var /usr /home /swap I would recommend two possibilities, depending on how you you use the machine and how many ports you intend to install. One is to have only / and swap. For that, make swap 4096 MB and root the rest. This presumes you will not be running any server which is a realistic for a laptop and then you will not be doing backups very much and that you will be the only one with accounts on the machine. The other would be a more standard division which makes backups easier and tends to protect the system from runaway users and processes more. a: / (root) 256 MB b: /swap 4096 MB d: /tmp768 MB e: /usr 4096 MB f: /var 2048 MB g: /home all the rest. Some combine root and /usr in to one large partition and then make the rest as above. Others make root, /usr and /var one partition the size of the sum of those above and then keep the rest. I like to at least keep /tmp and /home separate from the OS partitions, namely /, /usr and /tmp. And, of course, at least some swap should be in its own partition. Alternatively, you could make /var and /usr smaller and move /var/log, /var/spool, /usr/ports and /usr/local to /home and make symlinks for them. Then /var might be 1024 MB and /usr might be 2048 MB. If you let your Email inbox grow to large size before cleaning it out, then you might also want to move /var/mail to /home. They all would take up just as much room, but it would be out of /home where they could grow as needed without having to know how much in advance.You want the initial /usr to be at least 2048 MB in order to initially install source and the base ports tree. Then, before you do your fisrt csup of the system and of ports and installation of any of the ports, you do the move and make the symlinks. That will leave /usr a little empty, but no problem. If you are running some database that uses /var/db, you have to take that in to account as well. It can grow pretty fast. Note, I find the handbook suggested partition sizes to be a little out of date because of the current trend of increasing size of source and the ports tree, plus, /usr no longer seems to be the assumed location of user's home(login) directories any more. They now tend to go in /home. But, this tends to end up being a religious issue, so find what works for you and go with that and ignore all we soothsayers. jerry Thx ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
James Harrison wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 11:26 -0800, Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) wrote: Nikola, Thank you for your extender answer. I have two more comments. Did you consider /var as your email db partition. I really don’t know how big will be my mail db on freebsd, but after half of year I have about 4GB outlook mail db. So 1GB for /var might be not enough in my case. Having /home as part of /usr is the good point. But in case of backup it make sense to have /home as separate partition. What you think about this? Thx Alex /home is just a symlink to /usr/home, so that wouldn't help. cd / ls -l lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel8 Nov 2 05:37 home - usr/home You might want to put /usr/home on a separate partition, but that's your call. James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know of people that put /usr/home on a separate physical disk, then they can recover more easily in the event of a system catastrophe. Brian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
On Thu, Dec 20, 2007 at 12:40:46PM -0700, James Harrison wrote: On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 11:26 -0800, Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) wrote: Nikola, Thank you for your extender answer. I have two more comments. Did you consider /var as your email db partition. I really don???t know how big will be my mail db on freebsd, but after half of year I have about 4GB outlook mail db. So 1GB for /var might be not enough in my case. Having /home as part of /usr is the good point. But in case of backup it make sense to have /home as separate partition. What you think about this? Thx Alex /home is just a symlink to /usr/home, so that wouldn't help. Not unless you make it that way. If you do not create a /home partition then it can become just a symlink to /usr/home. But, it is not if you make a /home partition. Then it gets turned in to a real mount point. jerry cd / ls -l lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel8 Nov 2 05:37 home - usr/home You might want to put /usr/home on a separate partition, but that's your call. James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:26:41 -0800 Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikola, Thank you for your extender answer. I have two more comments. Did you consider /var as your email db partition. I really don’t know how big will be my mail db on freebsd, but after half of year I have about 4GB outlook mail db. So 1GB for /var might be not enough in my case. The hier(7) manpage is very useful to understand the default directory structure: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=hierapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+6.2-RELEASEformat=html As for mail, it depends on how you plan to receive and handle it; if you just download mail from pop3 account, it will be stored in your home by a mail client (this goes as well for mail you export from Outlook to e.g. Thunderbird). For locally (system) delivered mail, /var/spool is the default place, but unless you want yo use your laptop as a mail server, it's unlikely you will store your mail there. Having /home as part of /usr is the good point. But in case of backup it make sense to have /home as separate partition. What you think about this? Of course it's very useful for backups. I just thought it was useful to warn you about how much space /usr/ports could need because the default installation procedure on FreeBSD is to compile sources (of thirs party applications and of FreeBSD itself). As a useful example on how much space you might need, here are rough sizes on my home desktop computer, used for everyday work. I have ~850 ports installed. /usr/ports~2G (with current distfiles and packages that happen to be there + you will need at least 2-3G for large upgrades, sometimes 10G) /usr/local~5G (third party applications + additions such as TeXLive = ~1G) /usr/home~20G - /usr total used: ~30G (includes FreeBSD itself + some other smaller storages) If you plan to build FreeBSD itself in the future, then /usr must be even bigger. If all this leaves enough room for /home for you, then it's certainly very useful to make it separate partition. -- Nikola Lečić :: Никола Лечић ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM
Thank all of you for really helpful answers. I am thinking about this configuration (might be helpful for someone in the future) a: / (root) 256 MB b: /swap 4096 MB d: /tmp768 MB e: /usr 8192 MB f: /var 2048 MB g: /home all the rest. Think that 8GB will be enough for /usr ports, local and build os from scratch, and 2GB for /var - in any case I can symlink some of those to /home So we need about 15GB of free storage only for FreeBSD needs. Thx Alex -Original Message- From: Nikola Lečić [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:13 PM To: Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) Cc: FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Partitions size for 80GB HDD and 2GB RAM On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 11:26:41 -0800 Alexander Rudyk (Akvelon) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikola, Thank you for your extender answer. I have two more comments. Did you consider /var as your email db partition. I really don’t know how big will be my mail db on freebsd, but after half of year I have about 4GB outlook mail db. So 1GB for /var might be not enough in my case. The hier(7) manpage is very useful to understand the default directory structure: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=hierapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+6.2-RELEASEformat=html As for mail, it depends on how you plan to receive and handle it; if you just download mail from pop3 account, it will be stored in your home by a mail client (this goes as well for mail you export from Outlook to e.g. Thunderbird). For locally (system) delivered mail, /var/spool is the default place, but unless you want yo use your laptop as a mail server, it's unlikely you will store your mail there. Having /home as part of /usr is the good point. But in case of backup it make sense to have /home as separate partition. What you think about this? Of course it's very useful for backups. I just thought it was useful to warn you about how much space /usr/ports could need because the default installation procedure on FreeBSD is to compile sources (of thirs party applications and of FreeBSD itself). As a useful example on how much space you might need, here are rough sizes on my home desktop computer, used for everyday work. I have ~850 ports installed. /usr/ports~2G (with current distfiles and packages that happen to be there + you will need at least 2-3G for large upgrades, sometimes 10G) /usr/local~5G (third party applications + additions such as TeXLive = ~1G) /usr/home~20G - /usr total used: ~30G (includes FreeBSD itself + some other smaller storages) If you plan to build FreeBSD itself in the future, then /usr must be even bigger. If all this leaves enough room for /home for you, then it's certainly very useful to make it separate partition. -- Nikola Lečić :: Никола Лечић ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Partitions???
You need to check out the gparted-livecd. This will allow you to grow or shrink partitions, just like Partition Magic. It should work with all the filesystems in question here. I have recently used it and will never go back to Partition Magic. http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php Once you have performed a shrink, you will have additional unpartitioned space where you can load another OS if you want. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of xnow xsnow Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 1:54 AM To: Jerry McAllister Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Partitions??? Now, some people sometimes leave a chunk of disk that is not allocated in any of the primary slices with the thought of adding another bootable OS at some later time. But that is a different story. And even then, if what you are doing unexpectedly uses up your space, you would just create another FreeBSD slice in that held out space and put a nice large single partition in and move some things there and make a link. It is so much easier than resizing and risking losing stuff as in other unnamed systems. Yea, more like that...I have many machines in my work, they have linux reiserfs partitions, ext3...some FAT32, ntfs, and they are in full disk, and i want to install fbsd there without any lose of any data. When you said you should create another fbsd slice(...) then make a link but these machines have no fbsd partition and never had, nor any other partition besides the only one used by this other system, like a 60GB disk with full with only only partition, like fat32. I think growfs wouldn't help then. the other part I understood that 'boot0cfg -B ad0' would try to detect all of it automatic, and yes in my situation it is ad0. But since we have many different systems here, I am afraid some of them don't get detected, is there any possibility?like windows xp, windows 98, solaris, linux, I don't even know all of them, and if so, any of them don't get detected automatic after boot0cfg -B ad0 i would not have any idea of what to do. On linux we have /etc/lilo.conf which i have manually full acess and makes me be able to add anything, on fbsd i don't know... But if you tell me it is able to detect anything automatic, I'd leave this fear away and have fun tomorrow. Thanks for your reply. - Yahoo! Search Música para ver e ouvir: You're Beautiful, do James Blunt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions???
On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 07:10:52PM -0300, xnow xsnow wrote: First I'd like to know if there's a faster way to resize partitions than using GParted livecd, and no i am not supposed to pay, also, why freebsd has no resizer in its installation? There is, called growfs. But, its use is limited. You have to have space contiguous with the partition to grow in to. Generally, in something like FreeBSD you carve up the slice in to partitions and use all the space in the slice. Although I have heard of people doing so, I don't think it is common to leave extra unused space lying around. More often, people put all the space that might be left after divvying up the other partitions in to one remaining partition, typically mounted as something like /home or /work or /scratch.Then, if something in one of the other file systems grows bigger than expected, they just move that directory to the larger remainder file system and make a symlink to it. That is so much easier than mucking around with bits and pieces of partitions and trying to resize them when they grow unexpectedly that resizing is uninteresting in FreeBSD. If you run out of space in both the original file system and that large left over one, then you have to get more disk, rather than just resizing the one you have. Now, some people sometimes leave a chunk of disk that is not allocated in any of the primary slices with the thought of adding another bootable OS at some later time. But that is a different story. And even then, if what you are doing unexpectedly uses up your space, you would just create another FreeBSD slice in that held out space and put a nice large single partition in and move some things there and make a link. It is so much easier than resizing and risking losing stuff as in other unnamed systems. Second I'd like to add new systems to fbsd boot manager, i've been told to read man page of boot0cfg but didn't understand much, on linux my freebsd is mounted on hda1 and my linux is on hda3, how can I add my hda3 to be hitted as F3 to boot on freebsd boot manager?how can I easyly configure it? You just need to put the MBR on both HDD-1 and HDD-3 and have boot sectors in each of the bootable primary slices on disk. Then it should find all of everything automatically just fine. The boot0cfg utility writes that MBR out for you. You just need to tell it to replace the MBR and which disk to do it to. I think 'boot0cfg -B ad0' would do it for you first disk for example. You need to look at your dmesg(8) output or /var/run/dmesg.boot file and find out what names the system has assigned to the two disks. They will look something like ado: ad1: ad2: for ata or da0: da1: da2: for SCSI. Note that the first one is 0, second is 1, etc. What it will do is put F1-Fn(maz 4) for the bootable slices on the first disk and then F5 to go to the next bootable disk. If you then hit F5, it will put up the bootable slices on that one (and F5 if there is yet another disk with an MBR and bootable slices in the boot order). It might seem a little clumsy having to hit two F-keys to get to any boot slice beyond those on the first disk, but that is partly because FreeBSD keeps its MBR size down to fit in the officialy legal 1 sector and doesn't steal sectors that just might not be available on some systems in order to have a fancier selection menu. If I understood your question, I think that answers it. But, I may not have understood you correctly jerry Thanks. - O Yahoo! est? de cara nova. Venha conferir! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions???
Now, some people sometimes leave a chunk of disk that is not allocated in any of the primary slices with the thought of adding another bootable OS at some later time. But that is a different story. And even then, if what you are doing unexpectedly uses up your space, you would just create another FreeBSD slice in that held out space and put a nice large single partition in and move some things there and make a link. It is so much easier than resizing and risking losing stuff as in other unnamed systems. Yea, more like that...I have many machines in my work, they have linux reiserfs partitions, ext3...some FAT32, ntfs, and they are in full disk, and i want to install fbsd there without any lose of any data. When you said you should create another fbsd slice(...) then make a link but these machines have no fbsd partition and never had, nor any other partition besides the only one used by this other system, like a 60GB disk with full with only only partition, like fat32. I think growfs wouldn't help then. the other part I understood that 'boot0cfg -B ad0' would try to detect all of it automatic, and yes in my situation it is ad0. But since we have many different systems here, I am afraid some of them don't get detected, is there any possibility?like windows xp, windows 98, solaris, linux, I don't even know all of them, and if so, any of them don't get detected automatic after boot0cfg -B ad0 i would not have any idea of what to do. On linux we have /etc/lilo.conf which i have manually full acess and makes me be able to add anything, on fbsd i don't know... But if you tell me it is able to detect anything automatic, I'd leave this fear away and have fun tomorrow. Thanks for your reply. - Yahoo! Search Música para ver e ouvir: You're Beautiful, do James Blunt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 01:10:29 -0800 (PST), George Theodo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all. I am using FreeBSD 5.1 for a couple of weeks now. My situation is this, I have one hard disk with two partitions , one for WinXP and one for FreeBSD where I boot each one of them. Also I have a second hard disk with two partitions of WinXP. I am trying to administer WinXP from FreeBSD but i have some difficulties. I mount without problem the NTFS partitions but what happens is this: I can copy files from any NTFS partition to the FreeBSD Partition , I cannot copy files from any NTFS partition to another NTFS partition, I cannot copy files from FreeBSD Partition to NTFS partition. I don't know what the problem is. From the mount_ntfs(8) man page: WRITING There is limited writing ability. Limitations: file must be nonresident and must not contain any sparces (uninitialized areas); compressed files are also not supported. [...] CAVEATS This utility is primarily used for read access to an NTFS volume. See the WRITING section for details about writing to an NTFS volume. So in other words, you should probably should not count on being able to write to an NTFS partition. -- Robin Schoonover (aka End) # # Ever notice that even the busiest people are never too busy to tell # you just how busy they are. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partitions
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 02:37:21PM -0400, Jud wrote: -Original Message- From: John Wards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:25:51 +0100 Subject: Partitions Hi, I need to resize my XP partition so i can install FreeBSD. I have looked at loads of partition software but they all want me to pay for it and I don't see the point as I will only be using it once! Does anyone know of any partion software that will resize my XP partition for free! Cheers John _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Yes, BootIt NG is excellent - 30-day free trial. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com There are free partition utilities such as Ranish Partition Manager, but I found them poorly documented and easy to screw up. There are also FIPS and PResizer, free tools offered at FreeBSD FTP sites. I haven't used these (I needed a boot manager that easily grokked RAID as well as a partition tool, thus BootIt NG), but perhaps someone else can comment on them. I have used FIPS - it works, but can be a bit hairy... Follow the instructions, and you should be OK. It's quite straightforward. Dan -- Daniel Bye PGP Key: ftp://ftp.slightlystrange.org/pgpkey/dan.asc PGP Key fingerprint: 3D73 AF47 D448 C5CA 88B4 0DCF 849C 1C33 3C48 2CDC _ ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) - against HTML, vCards and X - proprietary attachments in e-mail / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
Re: Partitions
-Original Message- From: John Wards [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:25:51 +0100 Subject: Partitions Hi, I need to resize my XP partition so i can install FreeBSD. I have looked at loads of partition software but they all want me to pay for it and I don't see the point as I will only be using it once! Does anyone know of any partion software that will resize my XP partition for free! Cheers John _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Yes, BootIt NG is excellent - 30-day free trial. http://www.terabyteunlimited.com There are free partition utilities such as Ranish Partition Manager, but I found them poorly documented and easy to screw up. There are also FIPS and PResizer, free tools offered at FreeBSD FTP sites. I haven't used these (I needed a boot manager that easily grokked RAID as well as a partition tool, thus BootIt NG), but perhaps someone else can comment on them. Jud To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message
