On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 09:35:17AM -0500, Chess Griffin wrote:
> Da Rock wrote:
> >On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 23:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot,
> and never uses standard parts if they can help it.
> >>>Mercedes? :)
> >>Fits the fir
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 08:25 -0500, Robert Huff wrote:
> Da Rock writes:
> > > > Mercedes? :)
> > >
> > > Fits the first, dunno about the third. Certainly not the second --
> > > Benz are some of the best-engineered and built cars in existence.
> > >
> > > Maybe BMW, aka Bunch-a Money Wast
On 2/22/08, Jonathan McKeown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Petty quibble: I suspect that you mean ``there is no support for FreeBSD in
> EMC Networker'' rather than the other way round. Picking a backup solution
> that can't back up some of your servers, and opting to fix the problem by
> getting
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 11:15:00AM +0200, Jonathan McKeown wrote:
> On Thursday 21 February 2008 23:03, D G Teed wrote:
>
> > For example, no where in this have I heard a peep about backup
> > software. Anyone serious about IT is serious about backup. Yet there
> > is no support for EMC (Legato)
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 02:46:39PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows,
> > > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ...
> >
> > Sheesh! What did VW do to you t
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this
what is "desktop system" and "server system"?
AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both..
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FreeBSD as
Da Rock wrote:
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 23:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot,
and never uses standard parts if they can help it.
Mercedes? :)
Fits the first, dunno about the third. Certainly not the second --
Benz are some of the best-en
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 23:56 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > You need something that costs too much, breaks down a lot,
> > > and never uses standard parts if they can help it.
> >
> > Mercedes? :)
>
> Fits the first, dunno about the third. Certainly not the second --
> Benz are some of the
Yes! This is the best answer to this question so far. Just UNIX nothing more :-)
--Oliver
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> by not being linux at all.
>>
>> FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is
> FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it
On Thursday 21 February 2008 23:03, D G Teed wrote:
> For example, no where in this have I heard a peep about backup
> software. Anyone serious about IT is serious about backup. Yet there
> is no support for EMC (Legato) Networker in FreeBSD, and this is why
> our organization is migrating away fr
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 21:37 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows,
> > > > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ...
> > >
> > > Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that?
> > >
> > > I still see
On 21/02/2008, Da Rock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows,
> > > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ...
> >
> > Sheesh! What did VW do to you to des
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 20:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > When defining the differences to my clients as to windows,
> > Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ...
>
> Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that?
>
> I still see the occasional beetle
> When defining the differences to my clients as to windows,
> Linux, and FreeBSD I use a 60's model VW beetle for windows ...
Sheesh! What did VW do to you to deserve an insult like that?
I still see the occasional beetle on the roads. I doubt that would
be the case if they had to be "rebooted
On Thu, 2008-02-21 at 19:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>> use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this
> >>
> >> what is "desktop system" and "server system"?
> >>
> >> AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both..
>
On Fri, 2008-02-22 at 01:48 +, Chris Whitehouse wrote:
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >> use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this
> >
> > what is "desktop system" and "server system"?
> >
> > AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both..
> > ___
> Wojciech Puchar wrote:
>>> use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this
>>
>> what is "desktop system" and "server system"?
>>
>> AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both..
>> ___
>
>
>
> FreeBSD as a de
Wojciech Puchar wrote:
use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this
what is "desktop system" and "server system"?
AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both..
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Thus spoke Predrag Punosevac on Wednesday, 20 February 2008 at 19:24:01 -0700:
> Chad Perrin wrote:
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> Try to find on the internet couple of advocacy articles by Greg Lehey.
> They are very well-written.
Greg's a legend! :P
--
And of course you are right. Even Windows is an excellent OS if you need to
run CAD and keep your computer away from
the Internet:-)
probably because CAD software you use are windows only ;)
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D G Teed wrote:
As a Sysadmin I have 2 cents to add to this discussion.
I think the whole chest beating, king of the hill, stand taking,
mantra repeating is juvenile. There is no superior OS.
As I do my job I don't start out figuring how I can slide my
favorite distro into the equation. The OS
As a Sysadmin I have 2 cents to add to this discussion.
I think the whole chest beating, king of the hill, stand taking,
mantra repeating is juvenile. There is no superior OS.
As I do my job I don't start out figuring how I can slide my
favorite distro into the equation. The OS is not at the cen
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2008 15:58:51 schrieb James Harrison:
8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only
second to Debian.
Looking back at it, I'm surprised I didn't mention that.
Gentoo has over 24 thousand ebuil
Am Donnerstag, 21. Februar 2008 15:58:51 schrieb James Harrison:
> > > 8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only
> > > second to Debian.
> >
> > Looking back at it, I'm surprised I didn't mention that.
>
> Gentoo has over 24 thousand ebuilds, where an ebuild is their e
>
> >
> > 8. Most extensive collection of third party software (over 18000 ) only
> > second to Debian.
>
> Looking back at it, I'm surprised I didn't mention that.
>
Gentoo has over 24 thousand ebuilds, where an ebuild is their equivalent
of a port:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebuild
htt
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 07:24:01PM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
> Chad Perrin wrote:
> >
> >If anyone has suggestions for how to fix it up further, let me know.
> >
> >
> Hi Chad,
>
> Here is my honest opinion. I hope it will help you improve the post :-)
I do too.
>
> I didn't like very
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James wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 19:24 -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
>> 2. Probably 80% of the servers with the longest UP time run FreeBSD.
>> Give a link. Easy to find.
> Just a note -- linux is often not included in the lists of long
Easy way to describe the differences between UNIX, Linux and BSD
http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linux1.php
-Sean
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Lone Wolf wrote:
Hi.
How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu?
Thanks.
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting,
dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before.
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http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/bsd4linu
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 19:24 -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote:
> Chad Perrin wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >
> >>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >>>
> >> [ snip a bunch of stuff ]
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at
Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
[ snip a bunch of stuff ]
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
A good rundown of some of the differences.
Ma
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:27:49PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> [ snip a bunch of stuff ]
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> >
> > A good rundown of some of the differences.
> > Maybe you can
On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 16:50 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:44:37AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > >
> > > The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to
> > > use as a desktop system. Contrary
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:44:37AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >
> > The way you phrased it makes it sound like FreeBSD is simply unsuited to
> > use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this
> > from a Thinkpad laptop w
AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both..
Yup. That be the case.
I think the poster just meant that FreeBSD tends to get software
FreeBSD DOES NOT TEND to install anything more than a base system, doesn't
start any services than minimum too.
everything else is up t
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 08:49 -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:13:39PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 12:51 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> by not being linux at all.
> > > >
> > > > FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu pa
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:23:56AM +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this
>
> what is "desktop system" and "server system"?
>
> AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both..
Yup. That be the case.
I think th
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
[ snip a bunch of stuff ]
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 11:36:34AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
>
> A good rundown of some of the differences.
> Maybe you can put this on a web page and get it added to lists
> of comparrisons.
Sure.
use as a desktop system. Contrary to that impression, I'm sending this
what is "desktop system" and "server system"?
AFAIK it just depends of software installed, and it can be both..
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Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:13:39PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 12:51 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
by not being linux at all.
FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is
FreeBSD isn't both desktop or serv
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:14:04AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
Chad,
A good rundown of some of the differences.
Maybe you can put this on a web page and get it added to lists
of comparrisons.
jerry
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 05:14:45AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote:
> > But according to Wikipedia, F
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 05:14:45AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote:
> But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible software
> without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6)
> I can't run Linux software on FreeBSD?
>
"Linux" is technically the name of an OS kernel. FreeBS
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 09:26:42AM -0600, Erik Osterholm wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 02:39:26AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote:
> > Hi.
> > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu?
> > Thanks.
>
> Others have answered this sufficiently, but I wonder if this shouldn't
> be made into a FAQ
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 10:13:39PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 12:51 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > >>
> > >> by not being linux at all.
> > >
> > > FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is
> > FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:14:45 -0800 (PST)
Lone Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible
> software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6) I
> can't run Linux software on FreeBSD?
Linux emulation is for running Linux bina
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 09:26 -0600, Erik Osterholm wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 02:39:26AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote:
> > Hi.
> > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu?
> > Thanks.
>
> Others have answered this sufficiently, but I wonder if this shouldn't
> be made into a FAQ item.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 02:39:26AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote:
> Hi.
> How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu?
> Thanks.
Others have answered this sufficiently, but I wonder if this shouldn't
be made into a FAQ item. It's certainly asked enough.
Erik
software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6) I can't
run Linux software on FreeBSD?
_Running_ Linux software and _being_ Linux(-based) are two completely
different things. FreeBSD runs (most) Linux (and glibc based) software, but
is a completely different (and mostly unrelate
Lone Wolf wrote:
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi.
How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu?
by not being linux at all.
But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6)
I can't run
Am Dienstag, 19. Februar 2008 14:14:45 schrieb Lone Wolf:
> But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible
> software without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6) I can't
> run Linux software on FreeBSD?
_Running_ Linux software and _being_ Linux(-based) are two com
But according to Wikipedia, FreeBSD is able to run Linux compatible software
without any problems (exception for Linux Kernel 2.6)
I can't run Linux software on FreeBSD?
Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi.
> How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu?
by not being linux
Lone Wolf pisze:
> Hi.
> How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu?
> Thanks.
>
If you'd like use FreeBSD on desktop, try DesktopBSD[1].
I use FBSD on server last 8 years. On workstations also,
but last time I tried DesktopBSD and I really like it :)
If you would like try Freebsd withou
On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 12:51 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> >>
> >> by not being linux at all.
> >
> > FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is
> FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends
> from the user how it's being used.
True. But
by not being linux at all.
FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is
FreeBSD isn't both desktop or server system. it is just unix - it depends
from the user how it's being used.
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On Tue, 2008-02-19 at 11:48 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
> > Hi.
> > How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu?
>
> by not being linux at all.
FreeBSD is more a server than a desktop system. Ubuntu particularly is
more of a desktop.
That said, because it is a server its a hell of a l
Hi.
How FreeBSD differ from any Linx distro like Ubuntu?
by not being linux at all.
NTG
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