Re: Intel i810e graphic
--- "Miroslaw J. Wiechowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks a lot for your letter and detailed > explanations. > I am pretty new to FreeBSD and not yet well > acquainted with > all its pieces. We are/were at one point. :) > >(dmesg) > >agp0: > mem > >0xffa8-0xffaf,0xf800-0xfbff irq 11 > at > >device 1.0 on pci0 > > My hexaddresses differ and also I have irq 3 instead > of irq 11. > But probably this is machine-dependent. Yeah, it will be different. You may want to check your BIOS to be sure it's on the right irq, and not sitting with a com port(irq 3 is com2 by default), maybe disabling com2 might help too. (not sure if that will help, but it can't hurt) > >(XF86Config) > >Section "Device" > >Identifier "i810" > >Driver "i810" > >Option "AGPMode" "1" > >VideoRam 1 > >EndSection > > Subsection "Display" > >Depth 24 > >Modes "1280x960" > > ViewPort1280 1024 > >EndSubsection > > It is weird that my i810 accepts only color depth = > 8, even > in the lowest resolution (640x480) which works ok. > This cannot > possibly be dependent on the monitor I use. I'm sorry, I forgot the Screen section to the XF86Config... maybe you have DefaultDepth 8 set... Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "i810" Monitor "monitor0" DefaultDepth 24 It's not, for the most part, color depth is driven the XF86Config,(afaik, that's it, unless your monitor can't handle the H and V synch rates, make sure you check on that, as I'm not sure), make sure you've read this chapter of the handbook, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11.html as well as, http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-config.html which has a section on the i810 chipset at the bottom. > >(pciconf -vl) > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0: class=0x03 card=0x43328086 > chip=0x71258086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 > >vendor = 'Intel Corporation' > >device = '82810e 810e Chipset Graphics > Controller' > >class= display > >subclass = VGA > > Ok, but the card number is different. Perhaps Intel > issues > unique card numbers? Yes, of course. > >(kernel options) > >options USER_LDT > >device agp > > Here I am not sure what you mean. I tried to find a > command that > displays kernel options but did not succeed. > Could you explain? These are kernel options, LDT #allow user-level control of i386 ldt (which is needed for X afaik) and agp # AGP GART support is i810 extention, afaik). If you haven't compiled a kernel with those options, I think LDT is in GENERIC,(or loaded the agp.ko module) you're going to have to. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html The handbook entry on compiling the kernel. > Well, being a qualified programmer does not make you > an expert > on FreeBSD in three days ;-) I'm sure it helps. :) > Thanks for your help again > Miroslaw J. Wiechowski Not a problem, let's make sure this stays on the list, so others that have similar issues can use(if it helps) the info here. Jimmie James. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
I'm not subscribed to the list, but I've got a working i810 at 1280x960, 24bpp: Relevant lines, (dmesg) agp0: mem 0xffa8-0xffaf,0xf800-0xfbff irq 11 at device 1.0 on pci0 (XF86Config) Section "Device" Identifier "i810" Driver "i810" Option "AGPMode" "1" VideoRam 1 EndSection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x960" ViewPort1280 1024 EndSubsection (pciconf -vl) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:1:0: class=0x03 card=0x43328086 chip=0x71258086 rev=0x03 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Intel Corporation' device = '82810e 810e Chipset Graphics Controller' class= display subclass = VGA (kernel options) options USER_LDT device agp It took me about a week, untill I found the agp option, then playing with modelines to get it were I like it. Hope it helps. jimmie james __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:43:33PM -0500, taxman wrote: > On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:33 am, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > > > The system installation program does not give me any > > working configuration. The best I could get was some > > ugly display with standard VGA, configured by XFree86 -configure. > > > > Did anyone succeed with this Intel i810e chip and 1024x768 > > resolution at all? > > Getting hardware detection working well for every single chipset out there is > pretty tough. The i810 is pretty common, but pretty wacky too it seems. > > This'll sound funny, but try knoppix. It has amazing hardware autodetection. > Boot with it then save your Xfree config file (it's in the same place) to > floppy or something. Copy that over to FreeBSD and it'll likely work once > you've followed the other suggestions people have had. You may need to edit > out some of the font dir's that aren't installed on your FreeBSD system, but > that should be about it. > > get knoppix at: > http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html > or google for knoppix mini iso, as there are some of those out there for a > smaller download. > > Anyway that's how i finally got my Xfree config to work perfectly with my > monitor/video card > I assume that "knoppix" fits onto a CDROM (without having checked). IIRC (and who knows?) I believe I had my i815 working at 1280x1024 before my 17" tube went south--(bad v. regulator)-- and I had to use a 15" generic CRT at 1024x768. With the expertise that has been share around on this list re the i810, I've got my /etc/XF86Config working at 1024x768. (I'll share it with anyone who wants or post it on my website and give the URL) I have a 19" tube now, and would like to drive it at a higher resolution. Nothing I seem to know, tho, seems to get me more than 1024x768. (??) gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:33 am, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > The system installation program does not give me any > working configuration. The best I could get was some > ugly display with standard VGA, configured by XFree86 -configure. > > Did anyone succeed with this Intel i810e chip and 1024x768 > resolution at all? Getting hardware detection working well for every single chipset out there is pretty tough. The i810 is pretty common, but pretty wacky too it seems. This'll sound funny, but try knoppix. It has amazing hardware autodetection. Boot with it then save your Xfree config file (it's in the same place) to floppy or something. Copy that over to FreeBSD and it'll likely work once you've followed the other suggestions people have had. You may need to edit out some of the font dir's that aren't installed on your FreeBSD system, but that should be about it. get knoppix at: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html or google for knoppix mini iso, as there are some of those out there for a smaller download. Anyway that's how i finally got my Xfree config to work perfectly with my monitor/video card Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
Windows 3.11. Are you using that now? No probably not. Does 9X, 2000, or any other new M$ breed work? That would be interesting. Sometimes old hardware is sure nice to have around as a spare, but at $200.00 for a decent monitor that includes all horiz/vert timings I'd say maybe it's time to move on. As a side, I consider having the opportunity to modify my monitor's scan rates quite a bonus and something as the owner of the hardware/software should be allowed to do. Not rely on some companies 'default should work for everyone' profile. I am using 815e and had similar difficulties to the ones you talked about. After a few weeks of research I figured it out and am happy with the results. Was I frustrated? Yes at the time. Is it FreeBSD/developers fault or even XFree86? Nope. Notta. I know that much more now and in fact have two video cards in my box supporting two monitors off of the same X... All learned while working on figuring out my 815e problems. My 2 cents. R. On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > Just one more observation... > > Somehow the old Windows 3.11 worked very well with my monitor > in all avaliable resolutions 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768. > > I didn't have to know anything about timings, clocks, vertical > synchronisations, modelines etc. > > Regards > mjw > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
On Saturday 08 March 2003 04:48 pm, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > It seems that the X-Windows configuration problem is caused > not only by the Intel i810 chip, but also by the monitor, > Targa Multiscan TM 1480, which is rather old and probably the > system cannot ask it for necessary information. Well, the system doesn't ask it for information. You need to put the appropriate horizontal and vertical sync rates in the Monitor section. searching google didn't turn up the relevant info for this monitor though, Do you have the users manual? that should have the relevant info in it. There's also a Monitors file in /usr/X11R6/doc in XFree86 3.3.x, but it doesn't have info for your monitor and seems to have dissappeared in XFree 4.x > > I could achieve 640x480 display by putting "Modeline" in the > monitor section, after some experimenting. > > However, mode 800x600 works badly, the image is shifted to the > left and it cannot be helped with xidtune tweaing. I tried > several configuration variants. > > Mode 1024X768 is impossible to get. > > Well, perhaps it's time to say goodbye to FreeBSD after such > short acquaintance... > > Regards > mjw > > > Section "Monitor" >Identifier "Monitor0" >VendorName "Targa" >ModelName"TM 1480 Multisync" >HorizSync15.5 - 38 >VertRefresh 43 - 90 ># Works ok, the pictire is properly centered >Modeline "640x480" 25.20 640 644 740 796 480 490 492 525 -hsync > -vsync # The picture is shifted left which cannot be repaired with xvidtune > Modeline "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync > +vsync EndSection > > > Section "Device" >Identifier "Card0" >Driver "i810" >VendorName "Intel" >BoardName "i810e" >BusID "PCI:0:1:0" >Option "NoDDC" "True" >VideoRam8192 > EndSection > > > Section "Screen" >Identifier "Screen0" >Device "Card0" >Monitor"Monitor0" >SubSection "Display" > Depth 16 > Modes"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" >EndSubSection > EndSection > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
Just one more observation... Somehow the old Windows 3.11 worked very well with my monitor in all avaliable resolutions 640x480, 800x600 and 1024x768. I didn't have to know anything about timings, clocks, vertical synchronisations, modelines etc. Regards mjw To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
It seems that the X-Windows configuration problem is caused not only by the Intel i810 chip, but also by the monitor, Targa Multiscan TM 1480, which is rather old and probably the system cannot ask it for necessary information. I could achieve 640x480 display by putting "Modeline" in the monitor section, after some experimenting. However, mode 800x600 works badly, the image is shifted to the left and it cannot be helped with xidtune tweaing. I tried several configuration variants. Mode 1024X768 is impossible to get. Well, perhaps it's time to say goodbye to FreeBSD after such short acquaintance... Regards mjw Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Targa" ModelName"TM 1480 Multisync" HorizSync15.5 - 38 VertRefresh 43 - 90 # Works ok, the pictire is properly centered Modeline "640x480" 25.20 640 644 740 796 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync # The picture is shifted left which cannot be repaired with xvidtune Modeline "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "i810" VendorName "Intel" BoardName "i810e" BusID "PCI:0:1:0" Option "NoDDC" "True" VideoRam8192 EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes"1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
On Saturday 08 March 2003 12:45 pm, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > Message from Matt Navarre [19:44 2003-03-08]: > >> Section "Device" > > [...] > > >>Identifier "Card0" > >>Driver "i810" > >>VendorName "Intel" > >>BoardName "i810" > >>BusID "PCI:0:1:0" > >> # Option "NoDDC" "True" > >> # Option "NoInt10" "True" > >>VideoRam8192 > >> EndSection > > > >Just as a data point my workstation needs the "Option "NoDDC" "True" line > > to work. you also need agp support in the kernel, either compiled in or > > loaded as as module. > > > >ok, > >MCN > > Thank you very much for your help. > > I added the NoDDC option. > > First time I got _some_ picture. It's resolution was too low > (800x600), the picture was much too high and moved to the left, > leaving an empty room on the right side of the screen. > > The mouse didn't work properly - it reacted erroneously or did > not react at all. After a while the whole system crashed. > > The next time the system crashed at once and gave a core dump. > > Third attempt: the situation repeats. Wrong picture, wrong > resolution, mouse does not obey... but no crash... > However I have to go to the console and kill X-Windows with > Ctrl-C because I am not able to operate the graphical desktop. You can also kill X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace at the Xwindows desktop. > > > Perhaps the contents of my XF86Config file will help: > > > Section "InputDevice" > Identifier "Mouse0" > Driver "mouse" > Option "Protocol" "SysMouse" > Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" > Option "Resolution" "1200" > EndSection I had to goof around with the mouse part of my config to get my Micro$oft PS/2 intellimouse (Dell branded) to work. here's the relevant section: Section "InputDevice" # Identifier and driver Identifier "Mouse1" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol""auto" Option "Device" "/dev/psm0" EndSection Are you running moused on the console? That's caused problems for me before. > > Section "Monitor" > Identifier "Monitor0" > VendorName "Targa" > ModelName"TM 1480 Multisync" > HorizSync15.5 - 38 > VertRefresh 50 - 90 > EndSection Make sure you've got the right specs for your monitor. Things either A) won't work or B) go very boom! if they're wrong. > > Section "Device" > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "i810" > VendorName "Intel" > BoardName "i810e" > BusID "PCI:0:1:0" > VideoRam25000 > Option "NoDDC" "True" > EndSection hmm, that VideoRam 25000 line looks odd. I'm pretty sure XFree86 wants the video ram as a multiple of 1024. In my config file the VideoRam line is commented out. That might be something to try. See if you can find the amount of actuall vram used on your system. Here's the section from my Dell OptiPlex GX110: Section "Device" Identifier "intel i810" Driver "i810" Option "NoDDC" #VideoRam4096 # Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate EndSection > > Section "Screen" > Identifier "Screen0" > Device "Card0" > Monitor"Monitor0" > SubSection "Display" >Depth 8 >Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > SubSection "Display" >Depth 16 >Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" > EndSubSection > EndSection > Another thing to try is getting all your specs (monitor, vram, mouse etc.) and using /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config to reconfigure X. (Back up the old /etc/X11/XF86config file first). ok, mcn To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
Message from Matt Navarre [19:44 2003-03-08]: >> Section "Device" [...] >> Identifier "Card0" >> Driver "i810" >> VendorName "Intel" >> BoardName "i810" >> BusID "PCI:0:1:0" >> #Option "NoDDC" "True" >> #Option "NoInt10" "True" >> VideoRam8192 >> EndSection > >Just as a data point my workstation needs the "Option "NoDDC" "True" line to >work. you also need agp support in the kernel, either compiled in or loaded >as as module. > >ok, >MCN Thank you very much for your help. I added the NoDDC option. First time I got _some_ picture. It's resolution was too low (800x600), the picture was much too high and moved to the left, leaving an empty room on the right side of the screen. The mouse didn't work properly - it reacted erroneously or did not react at all. After a while the whole system crashed. The next time the system crashed at once and gave a core dump. Third attempt: the situation repeats. Wrong picture, wrong resolution, mouse does not obey... but no crash... However I have to go to the console and kill X-Windows with Ctrl-C because I am not able to operate the graphical desktop. Perhaps the contents of my XF86Config file will help: Section "ServerLayout" Identifier "XFree86 Configured" Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0 InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer" InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" EndSection Section "Files" RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/" FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" EndSection Section "Module" Load "dbe" # Load "dri" Load "ddc" Load "extmod" # Load "glx" Load "pex5" Load "record" Load "xie" Load "xtrap" Load "speedo" Load "type1" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard0" Driver "keyboard" EndSection Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Mouse0" Driver "mouse" Option "Protocol" "SysMouse" Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse" Option "Resolution" "1200" EndSection Section "Monitor" Identifier "Monitor0" VendorName "Targa" ModelName"TM 1480 Multisync" HorizSync15.5 - 38 VertRefresh 50 - 90 EndSection Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Driver "i810" VendorName "Intel" BoardName "i810e" BusID "PCI:0:1:0" VideoRam25000 Option "NoDDC" "True" EndSection Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen0" Device "Card0" Monitor"Monitor0" SubSection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection SubSection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" EndSubSection EndSection And here follows the relevant part of XFree86.0.log . (II) LoadModule: "i810" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i810_drv.o (II) Module i810: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.1.0 Module class: XFree86 Video Driver ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.5 (II) LoadModule: "mouse" (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.2.1, module version = 1.0.0 Module class: XFree86 XInput Driver ABI class: XFree86 XInput driver, version 0.3 (II) I810: Driver for Intel i810 chipset: i810, i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M (II) Primary Device is: PCI 00:01:0 (--) Chipset i810e found (II) resource ranges after xf86ClaimFixedResources() call: [0] -1 0xffe0 - 0x (0x20) MX[B](B) [1] -1 0x0010 - 0x3fff (0x3ff0) MX[B]E(B) [2] -1 0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [3] -1 0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [4] -1 0x - 0x0009 (0xa) MX[B] [5] -1 0xdd00 - 0xdd0f (0x10) MX[B]E [6] -1 0xdd10 - 0xdd1f (0x10) MX[B]E [7] -1 0xde00 - 0xde07 (0x8) MX[B](B) [8] -1 0xd800 - 0xdbff (0x400) MX[B](B) [9] -1 0x - 0x (0x1) IX[B] [10] -1 0x - 0x00ff (0x100) IX[B] [11] -1 0xc000 - 0xc0ff (0x100) IX[B]E [12] -1 0xdc00 - 0xdcff (0x100) IX[B]E [13] -1 0xd800 - 0xd8ff (0x100) IX[B]E [14] -1 0xd000 - 0x000
Re: Intel i810e graphic
On Saturday 08 March 2003 08:52 am, Albertus Magnus wrote: > On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:33, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > > Hi, > > > > After several days of fighting the @!*# Intel i810 chip, > > I wonder why I had this really BAD LUCK. There are hundreds > > of various graphic cards but I got the only one that does > > not work. > I don't think the system installation program gives *anyone* a working > configuration. At least, I've always had to tweak the XF86Config file > myself. That being said, the i810 works fine, once it is set up > properly. > > To get you started, here's the relevant section from my XF86Config file: > > Section "Device" > # from config.new: > ### Available Driver options are:- > ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", > ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" > ### [arg]: arg optional > #Option "NoAccel" # [] > #Option "SWcursor"# [] > #Option "ColorKey"# > #Option "CacheLines" # > #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] > #Option "DRI" # [] > #Option "NoDDC" # [] > #Option "XvMCSurfaces"# > ---end insertion > Identifier "Card0" > Driver "i810" > VendorName "Intel" > BoardName "i810" > BusID "PCI:0:1:0" > # Option "NoDDC" "True" > # Option "NoInt10" "True" > VideoRam8192 > EndSection Just as a data point my workstation needs the "Option "NoDDC" "True" line to work. you also need agp support in the kernel, either compiled in or loaded as as module. ok, MCN To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
On Saturday 08 March 2003 06:33, Miroslaw J. Wiechowski wrote: > Hi, > > After several days of fighting the @!*# Intel i810 chip, > I wonder why I had this really BAD LUCK. There are hundreds > of various graphic cards but I got the only one that does > not work. > > The system installation program does not give me any > working configuration. The best I could get was some > ugly display with standard VGA, configured by XFree86 -configure. > > Then, after a lot of incredibly boring tinkering I got > some kind of 800x600 display, too high and too much to > the left. The xvidtune was working very bad. Did not > react to mouse clicking for the most of the time and > it was impossible to do anything meaningfull. > > Did anyone succeed with this Intel i810e chip and 1024x768 > resolution at all? > > Regards > mjw I don't think the system installation program gives *anyone* a working configuration. At least, I've always had to tweak the XF86Config file myself. That being said, the i810 works fine, once it is set up properly. To get you started, here's the relevant section from my XF86Config file: Section "Device" # from config.new: ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: : integer, : float, : "True"/"False", ### : "String", : " Hz/kHz/MHz" ### [arg]: arg optional #Option "NoAccel" # [] #Option "SWcursor" # [] #Option "ColorKey" # #Option "CacheLines"# #Option "Dac6Bit" # [] #Option "DRI" # [] #Option "NoDDC" # [] #Option "XvMCSurfaces" # ---end insertion Identifier "Card0" Driver "i810" VendorName "Intel" BoardName "i810" BusID "PCI:0:1:0" # Option "NoDDC" "True" # Option "NoInt10" "True" VideoRam8192 EndSection HTH Albert To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: Intel i810e graphic
Citeren "Miroslaw J. Wiechowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > After several days of fighting the @!*# Intel i810 chip, > I wonder why I had this really BAD LUCK. There are hundreds > of various graphic cards but I got the only one that does > not work. > > Regards > mjw I don't now if you read the X chapter of the handbook (www.freebsd.org/handbook), but there is a special section for the i810 chip. You need to enable something in the kernel or the loader or something. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
