Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Micah]

Andrew Pantyukhin wrote:

On 5/14/06, Tom Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as file
server.  He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP
client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his
whim.  Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections?


I just found out about xrdp: http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/

It's not ported yet, though.


FWIW, xrdp compiles with minor mods to the Makefiles (remove all 
references to -ldl). After install it appears to require a VNC server 
running on localhost:5910. After pointing krfb to listen on 5910, I was 
able to connect to my FreeBSD box using mstsc.exe from a Windows XP box. 
There's hope that it's a relatively easy port.


HTH,
Micah


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Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Andrew Pantyukhin]

On 5/14/06, Tom Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as file
server.  He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP
client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his
whim.  Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections?


I just found out about xrdp: http://xrdp.sourceforge.net/

It's not ported yet, though.
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Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Norberto Meijome]

On Sun, 14 May 2006 00:01:02 +0100
Ashley Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We have a Win2k3 server and I can't tell you how many times I've  
> nearly kicked it to pieces because we used the TWO remote sessions  
> and couldn't log in

you should still be able to connect to the console via RDP (-console in mstsc
or -0 in rdesktop). or setup expiry /idle timers for sessions.

or just not use it ;)
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Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Garrett Cooper]

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garrett Cooper
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:12 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts
Microsoft RDP connections?


However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol 
to look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See 
<http://www.nomachine.com/> for a licensed version and 
<http://freenx.berlios.de/> for a GNU opensource version. So if you 
really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would 
look into this solution.



The point was that no matter what he tells his boss, he will get it
shot down.

But he can certainly try.

Usually what happens with these kinds of discussions is someone
will post something similar to what our original poster said, everyone
will replay with lots of well-meaning suggestions, the OP will then
get lit up and go back to his boss or whoever is being obstructive,
and get shot down again.  And most times we never hear from the OP
again with a followup.

Ted
  
True... I was just offering a suggestion, just in case. I figured that 
if the boss doesn't like Unix (which it seems he probably doesn't) 
though-like you said, so he won't support this.

-Garrett
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RE: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garrett Cooper
>Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:12 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts
>Microsoft RDP connections?
>
>
> However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol 
>to look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See 
><http://www.nomachine.com/> for a licensed version and 
><http://freenx.berlios.de/> for a GNU opensource version. So if you 
>really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would 
>look into this solution.

The point was that no matter what he tells his boss, he will get it
shot down.

But he can certainly try.

Usually what happens with these kinds of discussions is someone
will post something similar to what our original poster said, everyone
will replay with lots of well-meaning suggestions, the OP will then
get lit up and go back to his boss or whoever is being obstructive,
and get shot down again.  And most times we never hear from the OP
again with a followup.

Ted
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Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Garrett Cooper]

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Norris
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:41 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft
RDP connections?


Hello everyone,

I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD 
system as file 
server.  He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP 
client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his 
whim.  Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections?





Hell-lo!  Clue phone ringing!

Your boss doesen't want you to use any other solution than Windows,
get the picture?  If such a thing as an RDP<->XWindows conversion
daemon existed, your boss would find some other nit picky thing
that he would hold up as a deal-breaker.  Then if that was fixed
he would find some other thing.  And on and on and on.

What you need to do is recognize that the place your working at
is hopelessly borked as long as your boss is working there, and
just keep your head down and look for a better job somewhere else.

If you put the same effort looking for a better place to work
as your putting into trying to convince your boss to do something
he's simply afraid of doing, you would surely find one.

People like your boss are only convinced by evolutionary changes.
What will happen one of these days is a problem will come up that
cannot be fixed by the old Microsoft standbys, and your boss will
be fired for incompetence.  Then when he goes to find another job
everyone will be asking him if he has any Linux experience, and at
that time he will suddenly start thinking it might be a good idea
to start looking into this yoo-niks thing.

Ted
No solution for the RDP protocol exists on Unix as its a proprietary 
protocol that I think would be difficult to implement given X11's setup 
on Unix. However, there's also the NoMachine NX server/client protocol 
to look into, which is hailed as a Unix counterpart for RDP. See 
 for a licensed version and 
 for a GNU opensource version. So if you 
really want to sell your boss on remote access with FreeBSD, I would 
look into this solution.

-Garrett
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RE: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tom Norris
>Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:41 PM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft
>RDP connections?
>
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD 
>system as file 
>server.  He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP 
>client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his 
>whim.  Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP connections?
>

Hell-lo!  Clue phone ringing!

Your boss doesen't want you to use any other solution than Windows,
get the picture?  If such a thing as an RDP<->XWindows conversion
daemon existed, your boss would find some other nit picky thing
that he would hold up as a deal-breaker.  Then if that was fixed
he would find some other thing.  And on and on and on.

What you need to do is recognize that the place your working at
is hopelessly borked as long as your boss is working there, and
just keep your head down and look for a better job somewhere else.

If you put the same effort looking for a better place to work
as your putting into trying to convince your boss to do something
he's simply afraid of doing, you would surely find one.

People like your boss are only convinced by evolutionary changes.
What will happen one of these days is a problem will come up that
cannot be fixed by the old Microsoft standbys, and your boss will
be fired for incompetence.  Then when he goes to find another job
everyone will be asking him if he has any Linux experience, and at
that time he will suddenly start thinking it might be a good idea
to start looking into this yoo-niks thing.

Ted
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Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Vulpes Velox]

On Sat, 13 May 2006 18:40:55 -0400
Tom Norris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as
> file server.  He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's
> RDP client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine
> at his whim.  Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP
> connections?

Since he wants RDP, I doubt it would go by, but you may want to check
out xming. I use that for connecting to my FBSD workstation at work
from my windows workstation when I do not have my FBSD laptop with me.
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Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Ashley Moran]

On May 13, 2006, at 11:40 pm, Tom Norris wrote:
I'm trying to convince my boss to let me set up a FreeBSD system as  
file server.  He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's  
RDP client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine  
at his whim.  Are there any daemons that will take incoming RDP  
connections?


I think your boss is missing the point slightly ... he hasn't got an  
MCSE has he? ;)


I'm 99% sure the only RDP servers come with windoze.  Why don't you  
install KDE on your file server (ick) and install another windows box  
under your desk permanently VNC'd into it.  Then he can RDP to that  
and he will never know the difference :)


We have a Win2k3 server and I can't tell you how many times I've  
nearly kicked it to pieces because we used the TWO remote sessions  
and couldn't log in.  Once, we used up both RDP sessions, the VNC  
server crashed, and when I plugged the mouse and keyboard in it  
wouldn't respond (bloody PS2!!!)  I lost my rag and yanked the power  
cord.


On a less it's-late-and-I'm-feeling-sarcastic note, perhaps you could  
just set the server up to e-mail him the output of essential stats,  
like du -h.  I still don't see why he feels the need to monitor the  
file server though.  Surely that's your job!


Just my opinionated twopence...

Ashley
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Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Tom Norris]

Jonathan Horne wrote:

WOW!! what an incredibly closed minded person you boss must be!  i wonder what 
he thinks he will do, if he *could* get an rdp session to a freebsd box?


(btw, the answer is no, he cannot have a port 3389 terminal services session 
to a freebsd box... but there are a million other things, from ssh, to webmin 
that can be used to achieve the same thing and more, for a lot less cash).


jonathan





Yeah, tell me about it :\

I'lll run the webmin idea by him on Monday though.

Thanks :)

-- Tom
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Re: Is there a daemon/program for FreeBSD that accepts Microsoft RDP connections?

[Jonathan Horne]

On Saturday 13 May 2006 17:40, Tom Norris wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> He said he would allow it if he could use Microsoft's RDP
> client (not VNC or SSH :( ) to connect and monitor the machine at his
> whim. ...
> > 
>
> Thanks,
> Tom Norris

WOW!! what an incredibly closed minded person you boss must be!  i wonder what 
he thinks he will do, if he *could* get an rdp session to a freebsd box?

(btw, the answer is no, he cannot have a port 3389 terminal services session 
to a freebsd box... but there are a million other things, from ssh, to webmin 
that can be used to achieve the same thing and more, for a lot less cash).

jonathan


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