>-Original Message-
>From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 4:26 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Heinrich Rebehn; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Recommendation for 1000BASE-SX card?
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>I think its often difficult to distinguish
The "starving programmer" was an exaggeration
used
to illustrate a point, I was not seriously
suggesting
to go out and hire a bad programmer.
But, when you buy cheap crappy hardware it is
cheap
because the manufacturer has hired less talented
programmers among other things, and you can only
expec
>-Original Message-
>From: Danial Thom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:59 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Heinrich Rebehn; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Recommendation for 1000BASE-SX card?
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>--- Ted Mittelsta
>Its easy enough for commercial companies to fix
>the bugs if they need to use the broadcom
>drivers. There's just little incentive to donate
>the code back with this bunch of rude,
>incompetent clowns that have become the FreeBSD
>micky mouse club.
I don't think it's that being the problem. I
th
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>Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 10:08 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Chuck Swiger
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>Subject: RE: Recommendation for 1000BASE-SX card?
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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Trulsson
>Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:40 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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>Subject: Re: Recommendation for 1000BASE-SX card?
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>On T
--- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Behalf Of Danial Thom
> >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:38 AM
> >To: Heinrich Rebehn; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Behalf Of Chuck Swiger
> >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:24 AM
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> >Subject: Re: Recommendation for 1000BASE-SX card?
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> > but I'm
> >generally of
> >the opinion that FreeBSD works just fine, most of the time, on
> >most hardware,
> >without any specific tweaking or tu
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Swiger
>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 8:24 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Recommendation for 1000BASE-SX card?
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>Very well, let
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danial Thom
>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 6:38 AM
>To: Heinrich Rebehn; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Recommendation for 1000BASE-SX card?
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>--- Heinrich
--- Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
> [ ... ]
> >> I'm tempted to set a Followup-to: header to
> >> -chat or maybe /dev/null...
> >
> > What exactly is wrong with all of you people
> anyway?
>
> Why do people ask rhetorical questions? We're
> not you, evidently.
>
Danial Thom wrote:
[ ... ]
I'm tempted to set a Followup-to: header to
-chat or maybe /dev/null...
What exactly is wrong with all of you people anyway?
Why do people ask rhetorical questions? We're not you, evidently.
Invert the question, and I get an answer that makes sense.
Invert the ans
--- Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
> > Also keep in mind that the bge driver is a
> piece
> > of crap; driver quality is a much more
> telling
> > factor in these free OS's than the card in
> many
> > cases. The EM and FXP are the only drivers
> worth
> > anything (
No, I use drivers that are good. I don't feel the
need to fix all that is broken in an OS; a good
engineer finds what works and what doesn't and
adjusts accordingly. Intel controllers are better
than broadcom controllers anyways, so simply
avoiding broadcom controllers is the strategy of
choice.
D
--- Heinrich Rebehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
> >
> > --- Heinrich Rebehn
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Danial Thom wrote:
> >>> The intel cards that use the EM driver are
> >> the
> >>> best performing cards in FreeBSD that we've
> >>> tested. We've test car
Danial Thom wrote:
Also keep in mind that the bge driver is a piece
of crap; driver quality is a much more telling
factor in these free OS's than the card in many
cases. The EM and FXP are the only drivers worth
anything (mainly because neither were written by
mass-driver mill man Bill Paul).
N
Danial Thom wrote:
--- Heinrich Rebehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Danial Thom wrote:
The intel cards that use the EM driver are
the
best performing cards in FreeBSD that we've
tested. We've test cards made by the same
company
that use the broadcom controllers and the
intel
cards are su
--- Heinrich Rebehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
> > The intel cards that use the EM driver are
> the
> > best performing cards in FreeBSD that we've
> > tested. We've test cards made by the same
> company
> > that use the broadcom controllers and the
> intel
> > cards are su
--- Heinrich Rebehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote:
> > The intel cards that use the EM driver are
> the
> > best performing cards in FreeBSD that we've
> > tested. We've test cards made by the same
> company
> > that use the broadcom controllers and the
> intel
> > cards are su
> ATM, we are using the onboard controller (Broadcom BCM5704C
> wired to the
just a hint: be really careful of what kind of broadcom-chip
you'll get - some are could be not/bad supported by bge(4)/bce(4).
(check the archives/PRs on that).
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freebsd-q
Danial Thom wrote:
The intel cards that use the EM driver are the
best performing cards in FreeBSD that we've
tested. We've test cards made by the same company
that use the broadcom controllers and the intel
cards are substantially better (ie use less CPU
passing the same amount of traffic).
The intel cards that use the EM driver are the
best performing cards in FreeBSD that we've
tested. We've test cards made by the same company
that use the broadcom controllers and the intel
cards are substantially better (ie use less CPU
passing the same amount of traffic).
Be careful using on-bo
We are running the S4882-D and it has the Broadcom GB dual adapter
built in (recognized as ASIC rev. 0x2003>). It seems to work without problems and we've run
both to two different networks (right now running only one). We are
connecting at 100baseT so I don't have experience running at GB
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