Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-31 Thread Eric F Crist
On Wednesday 31 December 2003 05:59 am, Lee Mx wrote:
> Eric,
>
> If I were smart I would give up now and quit showing my ignorance by not
> being able to help you, but I'm not. ;-)  I've used network printers for
> years and have never had a problem.  I assume that the responses above are
> for lp1 and that you can ping 192.168.1.printer_ip and the mac is the
> correct one (want to be sure the packets are going where we think they are
> going.) netstat -nr will give you that one.  Unfortunately, these have
> always worked out of the box for me so I have no experience troubleshooting
> them.  The worst case for me has been that you need a windows box to set
> dhcp with propriatary software:)
>
> sorry,
>
> P.S. Did you try to print the test page from apsfilter?   Can the windows
> boxes access it through the ip?  (looking for the needle in the haystack.)

Lee,

Thanks for the help.  I've found I don't care about looking ignorant anymore 
because of some of the questions I've asked in here...

I know I can ping the print server, and I know I've got the right IP address 
as this printer server has a built-in webpage for configuration.  Also, it 
has the capability of configuration via tftp.  Out of the box you type a

# arp -s  
# tftp  get config.txt

You fill in the appropriate fields for configuration, and put the config.txt 
file back on the print server with

# tftp  put config.txt

So, really this is a pretty advanced little monster.  I _can_ print from the 
windows boxes, as they're using the lpr system as well.  I set them up this 
way so I could be sure that the lpr/lpd settings on this devil worked.  As 
far as the apsfilter test page, it works via parallel connection, but I 
cannot print it to the printer via the nework.  

I'm almost thinking at this point I need to contact the tech support personnel 
over at Zero One.  They've been a help in the past when the windows driver 
didn't want to install right away.

TIA
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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-31 Thread Lee Mx
From: Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lee Mx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
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Subject: Re: ZOT Print Server
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 23:12:22 -0600

On Tuesday 30 December 2003 08:52 pm, Lee Mx wrote:
>
> The only difference between your entry and mine is the rp that I 
commented
> out for some reason that I don't remember right now.  I assume that you 
get
> no errors.
>
> What do
>
> #  lpc status lp1
> #  lpc restart lp1
>
> give you?  I get:
>
> # lpc status lp
> lp:
> queuing is enabled
> printing is enabled
> no entries in spool area
> printer idle
>
> # lpc restart lp
> lp:
> no daemon to abort
> printing enabled
> daemon restarted
>
> I'm just guessing now.  I have no idea unless one of the above commands
> gives you an error.  The only thing that bothers me is the rp entry that 
I
> commented out and on another box I ended up with rp=raw.

I get exactly the same responses to those commands.  Also, I didn't 
mention,
but I did note the difference between the two and tried commenting out the 
rp
line, no effect on the printing ability that I can tell.
Eric,

If I were smart I would give up now and quit showing my ignorance by not 
being able to help you, but I'm not. ;-)  I've used network printers for 
years and have never had a problem.  I assume that the responses above are 
for lp1 and that you can ping 192.168.1.printer_ip and the mac is the 
correct one (want to be sure the packets are going where we think they are 
going.) netstat -nr will give you that one.  Unfortunately, these have 
always worked out of the box for me so I have no experience troubleshooting 
them.  The worst case for me has been that you need a windows box to set 
dhcp with propriatary software:)

sorry,

P.S. Did you try to print the test page from apsfilter?   Can the windows 
boxes access it through the ip?  (looking for the needle in the haystack.)

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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Eric F Crist
On Tuesday 30 December 2003 08:52 pm, Lee Mx wrote:
>
> The only difference between your entry and mine is the rp that I commented
> out for some reason that I don't remember right now.  I assume that you get
> no errors.
>
> What do
>
> #  lpc status lp1
> #  lpc restart lp1
>
> give you?  I get:
>
> # lpc status lp
> lp:
> queuing is enabled
> printing is enabled
> no entries in spool area
> printer idle
>
> # lpc restart lp
> lp:
> no daemon to abort
> printing enabled
> daemon restarted
>
> I'm just guessing now.  I have no idea unless one of the above commands
> gives you an error.  The only thing that bothers me is the rp entry that I
> commented out and on another box I ended up with rp=raw.

I get exactly the same responses to those commands.  Also, I didn't mention, 
but I did note the difference between the two and tried commenting out the rp 
line, no effect on the printing ability that I can tell.

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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Lee Mx
From: Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lee Mx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
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Subject: Re: ZOT Print Server
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 19:42:51 -0600

On Tuesday 30 December 2003 07:22 pm, Lee Mx wrote:
> I forgot to ask in the previous email but if it doesn't help would you 
post
> your printcap entry.
>
> thanks

Sorry, that was really my bad.  Here it is.  Note that the top entry is for
the parallel connection, which does work if it's connected.  The bottom 
entry
is the non-working network connection.

TIA

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(612) 998-3588
-PRINTCAP ENTRIES-

# APS1_BEGIN:printer1
# - don't delete start label for apsfilter printer1
# - no other printer defines between BEGIN and END LABEL
lp|pcl3/unspec;r=300x300;q=medium;c=mono;p=letter;m=auto:\
:lp=/dev/lpt0:\
:if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
# APS1_END - don't delete this
# APS2_BEGIN:printer2
# - don't delete start label for apsfilter printer2
# - no other printer defines between BEGIN and END LABEL
lp1|pcl3/unspec;r=300x300;q=medium;c=mono;p=letter;m=auto:\
:lp=:\
:rm=192.168.1.2:\
:rp=laser:\
:if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp1:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp1/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/lp1/acct:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
# APS2_END - don't delete this
The only difference between your entry and mine is the rp that I commented 
out for some reason that I don't remember right now.  I assume that you get 
no errors.

What do

#  lpc status lp1
#  lpc restart lp1
give you?  I get:

# lpc status lp
lp:
   queuing is enabled
   printing is enabled
   no entries in spool area
   printer idle
# lpc restart lp
lp:
   no daemon to abort
   printing enabled
   daemon restarted
I'm just guessing now.  I have no idea unless one of the above commands 
gives you an error.  The only thing that bothers me is the rp entry that I 
commented out and on another box I ended up with rp=raw.

Good luck,

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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Eric F Crist wrote:

> # APS2_BEGIN:printer2
> # - don't delete start label for apsfilter printer2
> # - no other printer defines between BEGIN and END LABEL
> lp1|pcl3/unspec;r=300x300;q=medium;c=mono;p=letter;m=auto:\
> :lp=:\
> :rm=192.168.1.2:\
> :rp=laser:\
> :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
> :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp1:\
> :lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp1/log:\
> :af=/var/spool/lpd/lp1/acct:\
> :mx#0:\
> :sh:
> # APS2_END - don't delete this

Check that the queue name the print server is expecting is really
"laser".  Some print servers don't care.

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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Eric F Crist
On Tuesday 30 December 2003 07:22 pm, Lee Mx wrote:
> I forgot to ask in the previous email but if it doesn't help would you post
> your printcap entry.
>
> thanks

Sorry, that was really my bad.  Here it is.  Note that the top entry is for 
the parallel connection, which does work if it's connected.  The bottom entry 
is the non-working network connection.

TIA

-- 
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AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc
(612) 998-3588

-PRINTCAP ENTRIES-

# APS1_BEGIN:printer1
# - don't delete start label for apsfilter printer1
# - no other printer defines between BEGIN and END LABEL
lp|pcl3/unspec;r=300x300;q=medium;c=mono;p=letter;m=auto:\
:lp=/dev/lpt0:\
:if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/lp/acct:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
# APS1_END - don't delete this
# APS2_BEGIN:printer2
# - don't delete start label for apsfilter printer2
# - no other printer defines between BEGIN and END LABEL
lp1|pcl3/unspec;r=300x300;q=medium;c=mono;p=letter;m=auto:\
:lp=:\
:rm=192.168.1.2:\
:rp=laser:\
:if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lp1:\
:lf=/var/spool/lpd/lp1/log:\
:af=/var/spool/lpd/lp1/acct:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:
# APS2_END - don't delete this

-END PRINTCAP-
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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Lee Mx

From: Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lee Mx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ZOT Print Server
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:30:14 -0600

On Tuesday 30 December 2003 06:23 pm, Lee Mx wrote:
> I looked quickly at the link and this seems to be a standard network 
print
> server.  I assume that you have either assigned an ip or are using dhcp.
> From there it is a standard setup.  I also use apsfilter and it works 
great
> for both my unix boxes and windows boxes without samba.  It isn't needed
> but I'm sure that it would work well also.  Where are you having
> difficulities?

I am able to print fine to the printer if it's connected directly to the
computer.  However, if I go through the apsfilter setup and try to use the 
IP
address (192.168.1.2) and 'raw' as the printer name, the printer doesn't 
even
seem to register that it recieved any data.  If I don't enter any name for
the printer name, and just use the IP address as the computer name, I still
get nothing.
I forgot to ask in the previous email but if it doesn't help would you post 
your printcap entry.

thanks

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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Lee Mx

From: Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lee Mx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ZOT Print Server
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 18:30:14 -0600

On Tuesday 30 December 2003 06:23 pm, Lee Mx wrote:
> I looked quickly at the link and this seems to be a standard network 
print
> server.  I assume that you have either assigned an ip or are using dhcp.
> From there it is a standard setup.  I also use apsfilter and it works 
great
> for both my unix boxes and windows boxes without samba.  It isn't needed
> but I'm sure that it would work well also.  Where are you having
> difficulities?

I am able to print fine to the printer if it's connected directly to the
computer.  However, if I go through the apsfilter setup and try to use the 
IP
address (192.168.1.2) and 'raw' as the printer name, the printer doesn't 
even
seem to register that it recieved any data.  If I don't enter any name for
the printer name, and just use the IP address as the computer name, I still
get nothing.
Eric

Here is one of my printcap entries for a laserjet.  It works great.  Maybe 
if you compare them you will find the problem.

lp|laser|ljet4;r=300x300;q=medium;c=full;p=letter;m=auto:\
   :lp=:\
   :rm=192.168.5.251:\
#:rp=192.168.5.251:\
   :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\
   :sd=/var/spool/lpd/laser:\
   :lf=/var/spool/lpd/laser/log:\
   :af=/var/spool/lpd/laser/acct:\
   :mx#0:\
   :sh:
# APS1_END - don't delete this
A regular line printer that I use to print checks from another unix box  is:

cheques|Impresora para cheques:\
 :sh:\
 :if=/usr/local/libexec/if.sh: \
 :rm=192.168.5.250:sd=/var/spool/output/cheques:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:
I also have a line printer for accounting that has a wide carrage and it is.

lp|local line printer:\
 :sh:\
 :rm=192.168.5.252:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:
# :rm=192.168.5.251:sd=/var/spool/output/lpd:lf=/var/log/lpd-errs:
All my windows machines can print to all as can the unix boxes.  I'm using 
three different brands of print servers, BTW.

I hope this helps,

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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Eric F Crist
On Tuesday 30 December 2003 06:23 pm, Lee Mx wrote:
> I looked quickly at the link and this seems to be a standard network print
> server.  I assume that you have either assigned an ip or are using dhcp.
> From there it is a standard setup.  I also use apsfilter and it works great
> for both my unix boxes and windows boxes without samba.  It isn't needed
> but I'm sure that it would work well also.  Where are you having
> difficulities?

I am able to print fine to the printer if it's connected directly to the 
computer.  However, if I go through the apsfilter setup and try to use the IP 
address (192.168.1.2) and 'raw' as the printer name, the printer doesn't even 
seem to register that it recieved any data.  If I don't enter any name for 
the printer name, and just use the IP address as the computer name, I still 
get nothing.

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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Lee Mx


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From: Jesse Guardiani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ZOT Print Server
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:25:15 -0500
Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

> Jesse Guardiani wrote:
>
>>Eric F Crist wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hey all,
>>>
>>>I've been trying to get some remote pringing working to no avail.  I
>>>purchased a ZOT print server (http://www.01tech.com/m_p100s.htm) that I
>>>have working
>>>with Windows perfectly.  I also installed apsfilter (Great job on that,
>>>btw) and have the remote printer working on this end via parallel just
>>>fine. FWIW, it's a Brother HL-1440 laser printer.
[...]

> But aspsfilter will support smbclient as well, if
> you ask it to when running the ./SETUP shell
> script.
Do you have remote SMB printing working to other windows machines
via aspsfilter? You said you had it working for parallel, but you didn't
mention SMB.
I looked quickly at the link and this seems to be a standard network print 
server.  I assume that you have either assigned an ip or are using dhcp.  
From there it is a standard setup.  I also use apsfilter and it works great 
for both my unix boxes and windows boxes without samba.  It isn't needed but 
I'm sure that it would work well also.  Where are you having difficulities?

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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Eric F Crist
On Tuesday 30 December 2003 04:25 pm, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
> > Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> >>Eric F Crist wrote:
> >>>Hey all,
> >>>
> >>>I've been trying to get some remote pringing working to no avail.  I
> >>>purchased a ZOT print server (http://www.01tech.com/m_p100s.htm) that I
> >>>have working
> >>>with Windows perfectly.  I also installed apsfilter (Great job on that,
> >>>btw) and have the remote printer working on this end via parallel just
> >>>fine. FWIW, it's a Brother HL-1440 laser printer.
>
> [...]
>
> > But aspsfilter will support smbclient as well, if
> > you ask it to when running the ./SETUP shell
> > script.
>
> Do you have remote SMB printing working to other windows machines
> via aspsfilter? You said you had it working for parallel, but you didn't
> mention SMB.

This isn't an SMB issue.  I purchased this print server specifically because 
it doesn't need a windows box running or doesn't require SMB.  The 
application is for use with my laptop, which dual boots to windows and 
freebsd.  This printer is located in a different part of my home and I'm 
avoiding having it become dependent on a computer again.

TIA
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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Eric F Crist
On Tuesday 30 December 2003 04:09 pm, Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> Eric F Crist wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I've been trying to get some remote pringing working to no avail.  I
> > purchased a ZOT print server (http://www.01tech.com/m_p100s.htm) that I
> > have working
> > with Windows perfectly.  I also installed apsfilter (Great job on that,
> > btw) and have the remote printer working on this end via parallel just
> > fine. FWIW, it's a Brother HL-1440 laser printer.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas on what I'm missing?  This printer just doesn't
> > respond at all when going over the network.
>
> Does the ZOT use SMB protocol? If so, you might want to install CUPS
> and Samba and print over SMB.

No, it doesn't.  It does support the lpr protocol, and that's how I would 
prefer to do it.
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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:

> Jesse Guardiani wrote:
> 
>>Eric F Crist wrote:
>>
>>  
>>
>>>Hey all,
>>>
>>>I've been trying to get some remote pringing working to no avail.  I
>>>purchased a ZOT print server (http://www.01tech.com/m_p100s.htm) that I
>>>have working
>>>with Windows perfectly.  I also installed apsfilter (Great job on that,
>>>btw) and have the remote printer working on this end via parallel just
>>>fine. FWIW, it's a Brother HL-1440 laser printer.

[...]

> But aspsfilter will support smbclient as well, if
> you ask it to when running the ./SETUP shell
> script.

Do you have remote SMB printing working to other windows machines
via aspsfilter? You said you had it working for parallel, but you didn't
mention SMB.

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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Jesse Guardiani wrote:

Eric F Crist wrote:

 

Hey all,

I've been trying to get some remote pringing working to no avail.  I
purchased a ZOT print server (http://www.01tech.com/m_p100s.htm) that I
have working
with Windows perfectly.  I also installed apsfilter (Great job on that,
btw) and have the remote printer working on this end via parallel just
fine. FWIW, it's a Brother HL-1440 laser printer.
Anyone have any ideas on what I'm missing?  This printer just doesn't
respond at all when going over the network.
   

Does the ZOT use SMB protocol? If so, you might want to install CUPS
and Samba and print over SMB.
 

But aspsfilter will support smbclient as well, if
you ask it to when running the ./SETUP shell
script.
Kevin Kinsey

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Re: ZOT Print Server....

2003-12-30 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Eric F Crist wrote:

> Hey all,
> 
> I've been trying to get some remote pringing working to no avail.  I
> purchased a ZOT print server (http://www.01tech.com/m_p100s.htm) that I
> have working
> with Windows perfectly.  I also installed apsfilter (Great job on that,
> btw) and have the remote printer working on this end via parallel just
> fine. FWIW, it's a Brother HL-1440 laser printer.
> 
> Anyone have any ideas on what I'm missing?  This printer just doesn't
> respond at all when going over the network.

Does the ZOT use SMB protocol? If so, you might want to install CUPS
and Samba and print over SMB.

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