Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

[dick hoogendijk]

On 03 Jan Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On Wednesday, January 03, 2007 17:17:17 +0100 dick hoogendijk 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >According to the kdm manual you should *not* use the "-nodaemon"
> 
> Where does it say that?  According to the online docs
> 'For FreeBSD, edit /etc/ttys and find the line like this:
> ttyv8   "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon"  xterm   off secure
> and edit it to this:
> ttyv8   "/usr/local/bin/kdm"  xterm   on secure'
> But that's not the same as saying "don't use -nodaemon".

To me at least it sounds like the kde / kdm developers say what I have to
do on a FreeBSD machine, don't you?
I agree the words "don't use -nodaemon" are not used, but they are not in
their command line.
 
> According to the FreeBSD Handbook 
> 'To enable kdm, the ttyv8 entry in /etc/ttys has to be adapted. The line
> should look as follows:
> ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure'
> In any case, I did what the Handbook stated, because I trust that the
> FreeBSD developers know what they're doing, and that's what they told
> the guys that write the docs to use for kdm.  Someone with more
> knowledge than I have would have to explain the technical aspects of
> that choice.

The handbook is kind of a fbsd bible. I must say it's very thorough.
Absolutely _the_ book to read when you run a fbsd flavour. Still I hope
that someone more technical than I am will explain some more on this
topic.

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Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

[Paul Schmehl]

--On Wednesday, January 03, 2007 17:17:17 +0100 dick hoogendijk 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



On 03 Jan Paul Schmehl wrote:

Try this.  Edit /etc/ttys thus:
ttyv8   "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon"  xterm   on secure


According to the kdm manual you should *not* use the "-nodaemon"
Why do you?


Where does it say that?  According to the online docs 
()

'For FreeBSD, edit /etc/ttys and find the line like this:

ttyv8   "/usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon"  xterm   off secure

and edit it to this:

ttyv8   "/usr/local/bin/kdm"  xterm   on secure'

But that's not the same as saying "don't use -nodaemon".

According to the FreeBSD Handbook 
()


'To enable kdm, the ttyv8 entry in /etc/ttys has to be adapted. The line 
should look as follows:


ttyv8 "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon" xterm on secure'

If you detach the parent process, what happens when the child process dies? 
Will the parent respawn another child without initd running?


In any case, I did what the Handbook stated, because I trust that the 
FreeBSD developers know what they're doing, and that's what they told the 
guys that write the docs to use for kdm.  Someone with more knowledge than 
I have would have to explain the technical aspects of that choice.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

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Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

[bobmc]

dick hoogendijk wrote:
> On 03 Jan Paul Schmehl wrote:
>   
>> Try this.  Edit /etc/ttys thus:
>> ttyv8   "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon"  xterm   on secure
>> 
>
> According to the kdm manual you should *not* use the "-nodaemon"
> Why do you?
>
>   
After install, ttyv8 names xdm and says it is off. Changing it per the email
causes periodic prints on the text console making it unusable. So I left it
at the original setting.  -BobMc-


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Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

[bobmc]

Rob Hurle wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, bobmc wrote:
>
>> After KDE is installed, "startx" still launches the twm default
>> X manager.  Diligent RTFM only tells me it should work once the
>> Xserver is configured for the video hardware and monitor.
>
> I have:
> export LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
> exec startkde
>  as the last lines in my ~/.xinitrc file.  There's a few other lines
> to do with my Vietnamese keyboard input, but that's it.
>
Ok, that's a step forward since I put your "startkde" item in my .xinitrc.
However, KDE said "unable to connect to X server" until I included
"X &".  It works but something is still amiss. There is no KDE splash
background
and it seems "kinda slow".

   ## .xinitrc
X &
exec startkde

## WindowMaker can be used instead of X & \ startkde ##
#xclock -geometry 50x50-1-1 &
#xdaemon2 -geometry +0-70 &
#wmaker #no & here!-BobMc-




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Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

[dick hoogendijk]

On 03 Jan Paul Schmehl wrote:
> Try this.  Edit /etc/ttys thus:
> ttyv8   "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon"  xterm   on secure

According to the kdm manual you should *not* use the "-nodaemon"
Why do you?

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Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

[Rob Hurle]

On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, bobmc wrote:


After KDE is installed, "startx" still launches the twm default
X manager.  Diligent RTFM only tells me it should work once the
Xserver is configured for the video hardware and monitor.


I have:
export LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
exec startkde
 as the last lines in my ~/.xinitrc file.  There's a few other lines to do with 
my Vietnamese keyboard input, but that's it.


Cheers,

Rob Hurle
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Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

[Rob Hurle]

On Wed, 3 Jan 2007, bobmc wrote:


After KDE is installed, "startx" still launches the twm default
X manager.  Diligent RTFM only tells me it should work once the
Xserver is configured for the video hardware and monitor.


I have:
export LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
exec startkde
 as the last lines in my ~/.xinitrc file.  There's a few other lines 
to do with my Vietnamese keyboard input, but that's it.


Cheers,

Rob Hurle
-
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Home address and contacts:   Tel: +61 2 6247 2397
  PO Box 4013Fax: +61 2 6247 2397
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Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

[Paul Schmehl]

--On January 3, 2007 12:46:10 AM -0500 bobmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


After KDE is installed, "startx" still launches the twm default
X manager.  Diligent RTFM only tells me it should work once the
Xserver is configured for the video hardware and monitor.

WindowMaker provides a pleasant GUI once I create a $HOME/.xinitrc
file. Firefox and Thunderbird work fine. However, nowhere can I find
instructions for the complete integration of KDE and I am missing the
use of K3b and other useful apps included with KDE. -Bob-


Try this.  Edit /etc/ttys thus:
ttyv8   "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon"  xterm   on secure


From the Handbook.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

Re: starting KDE after install .. -not-

[bobmc]

Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On January 3, 2007 12:46:10 AM -0500 bobmc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> After KDE is installed, "startx" still launches the twm default
>> X manager.  Diligent RTFM only tells me it should work once the
>> Xserver is configured for the video hardware and monitor.
>>
>> WindowMaker provides a pleasant GUI once I create a $HOME/.xinitrc
>> file. Firefox and Thunderbird work fine. However, nowhere can I find
>> instructions for the complete integration of KDE and I am missing the
>> use of K3b and other useful apps included with KDE. -Bob-
>>
> Try this.  Edit /etc/ttys thus:
> ttyv8   "/usr/local/bin/kdm -nodaemon"  xterm   on secure
>
>> From the Handbook.
>
> Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Senior Information Security Analyst
> The University of Texas at Dallas
> http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Thank you for the clue .. it was set to xdm. However, xdm hides the console
to present a graphical login.  I am trying to launch KDE after logging in so
changing /etc/ttys has no effect.-Bob-

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