Re: foot-shot?
Gary Kline wrote: Super! just offhand, can i install PCSD *over* thius FBSd --7.1--? Keep /usr/home and so on? Or is PCBSD a do-it-from-scratch? (I'm pretty much OS agnostic [[so long as it's somethng like UNIX]], but here I know where things live... With ubuntu, diff't story.) Yes you can if your /usr/home is a separate partition (or on a separate slice). I'm back to FreeBSD now but when using PCBSD I create a / and a /usr/home. It works very well, I can do a whole fresh install on / without touching the /usr/home partition. The installer lets you do this (but back up first just in case). Then a bit of fiddling with fstab and users and it is all go. hm, not sure how much flash is used, really. i just avoid as much of it as I can. if i can watch a public broadcasting stream i usually KVM over to my Ubntu box. . Hope the just-works PCBSD just-works here. PCBSD has flash sorted out, you can watch youtube, news website embedded video etc. Actually FreeBSD has flash sorted out as well... I think they have done a very good job, I would say give it a try. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foot-shot?
On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:51:00 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Been thinking over what someone said recently about restricting or dropping further ports. BSD is the best opensource system around. But keeping everything current is painful. If you're not running a public or mission critical server - then don't do it. I've used a 5.4 installation for many years without any problems, and without the need to update something. But I'm crazy anyway. :-) Does anybody know if PCBSD is as pushbutton as, say, Ubuntu is? Quite. You won't have major problems because English already is your native language. If you're comfortable with KDE and will be using the PBI installer (read: Push Button Installer), it can be a fine system. Even OS updates are distributed in PBI format. I'll always use FreeBSD on my DNS, apache22, and mail server side. Zero crashes in 7 years. But if I want to play music or watch a DVD--or do serious web video stuff--I use Ubuntu. Serious web video stuff - how many contradictions does this statement include? :-) No, seriously: Especially if you rely on Flash, Linux doesn't seem to be as... well... problematic? as FreeBSD. I'd like to say kilowatts by having one tao that can handle everything from hacking code to playing a movie. That's FreeBSD to me since 4.0, but I have to admit that my needs haven't yet grown to all the modern web media stuff... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foot-shot?
On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 12:14:15AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:51:00 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Been thinking over what someone said recently about restricting or dropping further ports. BSD is the best opensource system around. But keeping everything current is painful. If you're not running a public or mission critical server - then don't do it. I've used a 5.4 installation for many years without any problems, and without the need to update something. But I'm crazy anyway. :-) well, thought.org is public, but i just have the basics. it is a Server, period. Does anybody know if PCBSD is as pushbutton as, say, Ubuntu is? Quite. You won't have major problems because English already is your native language. If you're comfortable with KDE and will be using the PBI installer (read: Push Button Installer), it can be a fine system. Even OS updates are distributed in PBI format. Super! just offhand, can i install PCSD *over* thius FBSd --7.1--? Keep /usr/home and so on? Or is PCBSD a do-it-from-scratch? (I'm pretty much OS agnostic [[so long as it's somethng like UNIX]], but here I know where things live... With ubuntu, diff't story.) I'll always use FreeBSD on my DNS, apache22, and mail server side. Zero crashes in 7 years. But if I want to play music or watch a DVD--or do serious web video stuff--I use Ubuntu. Serious web video stuff - how many contradictions does this statement include? :-) No, seriously: Especially if you rely on Flash, Linux doesn't seem to be as... well... problematic? as FreeBSD. hm, not sure how much flash is used, really. i just avoid as much of it as I can. if i can watch a public broadcasting stream i usually KVM over to my Ubntu box. . Hope the just-works PCBSD just-works here. I'd like to say kilowatts by having one tao that can handle everything from hacking code to playing a movie. That's FreeBSD to me since 4.0, but I have to admit that my needs haven't yet grown to all the modern web media stuff... i am not that into the-tube... but for science broadcasts, yep. especially things i've missed and are somewhere online. thanks for the datapoints! gary -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foot-shot?
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 17:25:07 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: Super! just offhand, can i install PCSD *over* thius FBSd --7.1--? Keep /usr/home and so on? basically yes. Check if the installer allows you NOT to format the partition where you have your home directories. If it is /usr/home instead of /home (its own partition), problems may occur. Maybe you delete everything from /usr EXCEPT the home/ subtree and then tell the PC-BSD installer NOT to format the /usr partition. So your home directories should be intact. Keep copies of /etc/group,passwd et al. so you won't have to add all the users (if you have more than one) manually. Or is PCBSD a do-it-from-scratch? As FreeBSD, PC-BSD's underlying OS, you are not forced to wipe anything. (I'm pretty much OS agnostic [[so long as it's somethng like UNIX]], but here I know where things live... With ubuntu, diff't story.) Some people say that PC-BSD is the Ubuntu of the BSD's, or worse, the Windows in the UNIX world. :-) hm, not sure how much flash is used, really. i just avoid as much of it as I can. if i can watch a public broadcasting stream i usually KVM over to my Ubntu box. . Hope the just-works PCBSD just-works here. Should be no problem to forward X from the Ubuntu box to PC-BSD. There's even a Flash plugin available as PBI. i am not that into the-tube... Therefore, thetube-dl -a exists. :-) but for science broadcasts, yep. especially things i've missed and are somewhere online. Too sad such stuff mostly isn't provided in a standardized video format (even streaming format)... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
foot-shot?
Hm. Last night mutt began to fail to sent mail; it exited with a 127. When I tried to rebuolt mutt, turns out that I'm missing GNU m4... . I'll paste the build snafus after my sig here on my server. Ideas how things ggot hosed? anybody? -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org === Configuring for mutt-1.4.2.3_3 /usr/local/share/aclocal/soup.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SOUP run info '(automake)Extending aclocal' or see http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Extending-aclocal /usr/local/share/aclocal/oaf.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_OAF /usr/local/share/aclocal/linc.m4:1: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LINC /usr/local/share/aclocal/libglade.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBGLADE /usr/local/share/aclocal/libfame.m4:6: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBFAME /usr/local/share/aclocal/libart.m4:11: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBART /usr/local/share/aclocal/libIDL.m4:6: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_LIBIDL /usr/local/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:9: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_IMLIB /usr/local/share/aclocal/imlib.m4:167: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_IMLIB /usr/local/share/aclocal/gtkgl.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTKGL /usr/local/share/aclocal/gtk.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GTK /usr/local/share/aclocal/glib.m4:8: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GLIB /usr/local/share/aclocal/gdk-pixbuf.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GDK_PIXBUF /usr/local/share/aclocal/gconf-1.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_GCONF /usr/local/share/aclocal/gconf-1.m4:71: warning: underquoted definition of AM_GCONF_SOURCE /usr/local/share/aclocal/audiofile.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_AUDIOFILE /usr/local/share/aclocal/aalib.m4:12: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_AALIB /usr/local/share/aclocal/ORBit.m4:4: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_ORBIT autom4te-2.62: need GNU m4 1.4 or later: /usr/local/bin/gm4 aclocal-1.9: /usr/local/bin/autom4te-2.62 failed with exit status: 1 *** Error code 1 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: foot-shot?
On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 10:40:38AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: Hm. Last night mutt began to fail to sent mail; it exited with a 127. When I tried to rebuilt mutt, turns out that I'm missing GNU m4... . I'll paste the build snafus after my sig here on my server. Ideas how things got hosed? anybody? [[ ... ]] === Configuring for mutt-1.4.2.3_3 /usr/local/share/aclocal/soup.m4:7: warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_SOUP foo, bar, baz ... Well, gents [*], Somehow my installed world got partially deleted and to save myself further grief, I rebuilt everything. *Then* rebuilt mutt. portmaster gets stuck on the java stuff because we still hasta fetch it ourselves. I thought Sun was going to fix that. In any case, my diablo-jdk16 timezone file is MIA, so I'm wedged as far as further upgrading goes. Been thinking over what someone said recently about restricting or dropping further ports. BSD is the best opensource system around. But keeping everything current is painful. Does anybody know if PCBSD is as pushbutton as, say, Ubuntu is? I'll always use FreeBSD on my DNS, apache22, and mail server side. Zero crashes in 7 years. But if I want to play music or watch a DVD--or do serious web video stuff--I use Ubuntu. I'd like to say kilowatts by having one tao that can handle everything from hacking code to playing a movie. There is the talent here to fix the fixable ... at the same time, we've all got real lives, jobs, school, families, etc. And a limited volunteer base. ...That's my dime's worth. gary [*] to spare raging replies, no, i am not a sexist/chauvinist. Only 30 years ago about a third of my computer class was female. Not to mention some drop-dead blondes in my ckt theory class... . I mean, some serious female EE talent there! :-) ... Now?? dunno. [?] :-( -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org The 5.67a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
