Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-11 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: aanlktikdj39liaffibdwkfa1vgt4w7m8toxevjykh...@mail.gmail.com Garrett Cooper yanef...@gmail.com writes: : On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: : 07.07.2010 14:59, Jeremy Chadwick ???(??): : :      FREEBSD_COMPAT7 kernel option

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-08 Thread Marian Hettwer
Am 07.07.10 22:52, schrieb Mikhail T.: 07.07.2010 16:34, Randi Harper ???(??): Attached is the kernel config-file (i386), that worked fine under 7.x. The kernel-compile will break (some *freebsd7* structs undefined), without the COMPAT_FREEBSD7 option. Try it for yourself... Don't

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-08 Thread Mikhail T.
07.07.2010 16:50, Marcel Moolenaar написав(ла): Not to mention that if you change uart(4) to create dev entries like sio(4) after uart(4) has been in the tree for more than 6 years creating ttyu* entries, you actually introduce a gratuitous change. If sio and uart could co-exist, then you'd

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-08 Thread jhell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/08/2010 06:54, for whatever Marian Hettwer wrote: With any major upgrade or release process comes a commitment from the developers and end-users alike that involves a review, testing release. The release part on the end-users

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-08 Thread Marian Hettwer
Hi jhell, ehm... Am 08.07.10 14:46, wrote jhell: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/08/2010 06:54, for whatever Marian Hettwer wrote: I certainly not wrote the text below. That's what, I guess, you wrote. Your MUA is defect. And honestly, I don't know why that's a reply to

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-08 Thread jhell
On 07/08/2010 10:08, Marian Hettwer wrote: Hi jhell, ehm... Am 08.07.10 14:46, wrote jhell: On 07/08/2010 06:54, for whatever Marian Hettwer wrote: I certainly not wrote the text below. That's what, I guess, you wrote. Your MUA is defect. And honestly, I don't know why that's a reply

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 02:22:22PM -0400, Mikhail T. wrote: I'm upgrading several systems these days to the 8.1 (pre-release) and have hit the following troubles... I could file a formal PR for each, I suppose, but, maybe, this way will get the right people's attention sooner. 2.

8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Mikhail T.
I'm upgrading several systems these days to the 8.1 (pre-release) and have hit the following troubles... I could file a formal PR for each, I suppose, but, maybe, this way will get the right people's attention sooner. In no particular order: 1. A picture, that one of the systems was

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:22:22 -0400 From: Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com Sender: owner-freebsd-sta...@freebsd.org I'm upgrading several systems these days to the 8.1 (pre-release) and have hit the following troubles... I could file a formal PR for each, I suppose, but, maybe,

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Mikhail T.
07.07.2010 14:59, Jeremy Chadwick ???(??): FREEBSD_COMPAT7 kernel option is, apparently, a requirement (and thus not an option) -- the kernel-config files, that worked with 7.x, break without this option in them (in addition to all the nuisance, that's documented in

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Mikhail T.
07.07.2010 16:34, Randi Harper ???(??): Attached is the kernel config-file (i386), that worked fine under 7.x. The kernel-compile will break (some *freebsd7* structs undefined), without the COMPAT_FREEBSD7 option. Try it for yourself... Don't use a kernel config from 7. We've

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: 07.07.2010 16:34, Randi Harper ???(??): Attached is the kernel config-file (i386), that worked fine under 7.x. The kernel-compile will break (some *freebsd7* structs undefined), without the COMPAT_FREEBSD7

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Sean Bruno
5. One of the upgraded systems would repeatedly hang at boot, until I disabled the on-board firewire-device through the BIOS... It was not a problem under 7.x, although I don't know, whether the device actually worked. This is a commonly-reported problem,

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Sean Bruno
5. One of the upgraded systems would repeatedly hang at boot, until I disabled the on-board firewire-device through the BIOS... It was not a problem under 7.x, although I don't know, whether the device actually worked. This is a commonly-reported problem,

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:17 PM, Mikhail T. mi+t...@aldan.algebra.com wrote: 07.07.2010 14:59, Jeremy Chadwick ???(??):      FREEBSD_COMPAT7 kernel option is, apparently, a requirement (and      thus not an option) -- the kernel-config files, that worked with      7.x, break without this

Re: 8.x grudges

2010-07-07 Thread Ken Smith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 7/7/10 4:17 PM, Mikhail T. wrote: 07.07.2010 14:59, Jeremy Chadwick написав(ла): FREEBSD_COMPAT7 kernel option is, apparently, a requirement (and thus not an option) -- the kernel-config files, that worked with 7.x, break without