Re: [Freedos-devel] Four in a Row

2024-06-06 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 5:32 PM Wilhelm Spiegl wrote: > > I will test it on vbox tomorrow and, if necessary, inform the programmer > today, it is 12pm 24 here. > I'll also test it on the Pocket386, but it's evening here now so I don't have time to do it right away. I'll try it in the morning.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Four in a Row

2024-06-06 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: > > The on-screen help says 'N' for a new game, 'Q' to quit. Using 'N' to > > start a new game is fine. Playing the game works fine. But when I > > press 'Q' to quit, it hangs and never brings me back to the DOS > > prompt. Eric Auer wrote: > It does

Re: [Freedos-devel] Four in a Row (was: one more proposal for upload via fdnpkg)

2024-06-06 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jerome Shidel wrote: [..] > But, we probably did not evaluate it for inclusion for an unknown > reason. That was several years ago and I do not recall why. Possibly, > it just got forgotten. It was released after a while after FreeDOS > 1.2 but long before 1.3. > > Looking at it now: > > The

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal for new package in T2405

2024-06-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 3:02 PM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > I created an i16env package. > > Since it is very small and you did not specify a license anywhere, > I assumed you intend it to be “Public Domain”. > > So, that’s how I listed it in the metadata. If that is

Re: [Freedos-devel] Four in a Row (was: one more proposal for upload via fdnpkg)

2024-06-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Wilhelm Spiegl wrote: > > Hi, its once again me. > At the fd gitlab account there is a game called row4, (four in a row) see: > https://gitlab.com/FreeDOS/games/row4 > This version is out of date. > There is an update at the programmers site, see: > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-06-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jeremy wrote: > I'm thinking of adding a multi-sector boot code for fat32 to support > both LBA and CHS, but possibly keeping the single sector boot code > support as well. It would be a build option along with other > advanced features so as to not bloat basic sys included with kernel >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-06-03 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Eric Auer wrote: > > > > Are you sure that this is not just what the PARTITION TABLE says? > > Is there a way to ask FDISK whether it detects BIOS LBA support? Bernd Böckmann wrote: > Eric is right, I had a look at the relevant lines of the FDISK > source. This is only an indicator that FDISK

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-06-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: > >> 5. SYS C: /FORCE:CHS > >> > >> > >> And that boots without problem on the Pocket386! > >> > >> > >> Also: you asked about FDISK /XO output. It reports "W95B INT LBA > >> FAT32" in the upper left

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-06-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Bernd Böckmann wrote: > > [..] > > You might try doing a "SYS X: /FORCE:CHS" under QEMU and then testing > > again with your 386 to see if the FAT32 CHS loader works. This is not > > documented via SYS /? but should work according to the source. You > > can find out if LBA is supported by starting

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-06-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 6:31 AM Bernd Böckmann wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > Am 02.06.2024 um 01:45 schrieb Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > > : > > > > > (I created a single partition on the 1.9G drive, formatted and > > installed "plain DOS" to tha

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-06-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: > My CF card reader arrived, so I tried installing FreeDOS on the CF > card. I've had partial success; I can install, but I can't boot. I > need help. > [..] > I've also tried running QEMU directly against the CF card, in case > something weird happened when I w

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-06-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
> Jim Hall wrote: > [..] > > > It arrived Friday. I powered it on to make sure it works, and it does. > > > They've pre-installed some pirated copy of Win95 on there, but I'll > > > reinstall the whole thing with FreeDOS anyway. :-) > > > > > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Back at it with DOG

2024-05-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 9:53 PM Wolf Bergenheim via Freedos-devel wrote: > [..] > Now a question: > What are your dev setups like? I'm on a linux host computer and I've > been using both DOSBox and QEMU to build and test in. I find though > that it's a bit of a chore, since DOSBox crashes

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-05-29 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: [..] > > It arrived Friday. I powered it on to make sure it works, and it does. > > They've pre-installed some pirated copy of Win95 on there, but I'll > > reinstall the whole thing with FreeDOS anyway. :-) > > > > The Pocket386 only boots from the in

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal for new package in T2405

2024-05-28 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: > >> This didn't get any discussion a month ago. Since it didn't appear in >> T2405, I wanted to raise it again for T2406. Can we add this to T2406? >> Adding a DJGPP.ENV file is all you need to compile programs with IA-16 >> GCC without installing

Re: [Freedos-devel] Free FDISK 1.3.15

2024-05-28 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 6:04 PM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Free FDISK 1.3.15 is released. > > https://github.com/FDOS/fdisk/releases/tag/v1.3.15 > > Fixes: [..] Thanks! I've posted a news item and mirrored this to the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio.

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS on Pocket386

2024-05-28 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
*I'm resending (with a few edits/updates) because this message failed over the weekend due to the SF list server outage You may remember the Book8088 micro-laptop and Hand386 handheld from last year. I always said I'd buy one if they were the other way around: a handheld 8088 or a '386 laptop.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal for new package in T2405

2024-05-28 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
-ia16/ I16ENV.ZIP The I16ENV.TXT file is just a brief Readme about it. On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 10:52 AM Jim Hall wrote: > > Based on my other email about getting IA-16 GCC to work on T2404 > without installing DJGPP, I propose adding a new package in T2405 > called I16ENV that just h

[Freedos-devel] Virtual dot matrix printer

2024-05-28 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I created a FreeDOS program that simulates printing on a 9-pin impact ("dot matrix") printer. I made this for a few reasons: 1. I am writing an article about dot matrix printing, and didn't have a good way to demonstrate it; and 2. It was something fun to do in an afternoon. A few notes: - This

Re: [Freedos-devel] Proposal for new package in T2405

2024-05-28 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
to the FreeDOS Files Archive at Ibiblio, here: https://ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/devel/c/gcc-ia16/ I16ENV.ZIP The I16ENV.TXT file is just a brief Readme about it. On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 10:52 AM Jim Hall wrote: > > Based on my other email about getting IA-16 GCC to work on

Re: [Freedos-devel] Email test

2024-05-28 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
it, but they haven't updated the ticket yet - but at least I know things are working again. Thanks. *You can ignore this thread now On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:01 AM Andy Stamp wrote: > > Seen May 28 12:00 EDT. > > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:33 AM Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: >> &g

[Freedos-devel] Email test

2024-05-28 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
My email to the list bounced as undeliverable, but I'm sending this test just in case it was a temporary hiccup. Can someone reply to this thread if you can see this message? *sent May 27 11:20pm ___ Freedos-devel mailing list

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

2024-05-23 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
[..] > > But I got the feedback from Jerome to ask the FD mailing list first as it > > is not possible to remove it if only one person > > asks for removing. So I did this. > > So Jerome is now suddenly the official rule maker for FreeDOS? I don't > remember dicussing this. > No. I think it

Re: [Freedos-devel] prog lang. year for watcom compiler/programming book list?

2024-05-22 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
There's the ebook and video series I did a few years ago. It's meant to teach the basics of programming in C, using openwatcom on FreeDOS. https://www.freedos.org/books/cprogramming/ There also used to be a print book you could but at low cost on Lulu, but I took it off sale a while back. If

Re: [Freedos-devel] zoo

2024-05-22 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
> On Wed, 22 May 2024, tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > it seems that no knowledgable person finds zoo interesting enough to fix > > it. > > and those who care about zoo have no clue. On Wed, May 22, 2024 at 12:24 PM Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Was zoo even popular in

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Edlin 2.24 is out!

2024-05-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim wrote: [..] > > FYI: I've fixed the source files on my end and mirrored that version > > to Ibiblio. It's at: > > > > https://ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/edlin/2.24/ > > > > > > I've also uploaded a compiled version of EDLIN16.EXE (compiled using OW.BAT) Gregory wrote: >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Edlin 2.24 is out!

2024-05-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 1:36 PM Gregory Pietsch via Freedos-devel wrote: > > FreeDOS Edlin 2.24 has been released to an unsuspecting world! Jim Hall > sent me some edits that moved the copyright to the help screen and > changed "Abort edit" to "Really quit"

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Edlin 2.24 is out!

2024-05-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 1:49 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 1:36 PM Gregory Pietsch via Freedos-devel > wrote: > > > > FreeDOS Edlin 2.24 has been released to an unsuspecting world! Jim Hall > > sent me some edits that moved the copyright to the help sc

Re: [Freedos-devel] still can't find the source code

2024-05-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 11:01 AM Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel wrote: >[..] > I'm 44 and surmise that I am one of the *younger* regulars on the list, so > is it really any surprise things are a bit old-fashioned around here? > (Some of the other old-times probably know what an ignorant little

Re: [Freedos-devel] still can't find the source code

2024-05-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 8:46 AM Green Fog via Freedos-devel wrote: > > There you go. The 2 requirements for free dos being a thing are > just not there. not ease of use. I need to use an antique mail > list for communication and wiki/documentation. It's absurd > and very not efficient. I am very

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where is the source code?

2024-05-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 10:28 AM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > > I like that idea. I think a good place to add these would be in the > > "Technical information" section on that page, maybe as another row of > > "info boxes" before (or after? not sure) the row that has RBIL, VGA > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where is the source code?

2024-05-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: > > To make this more clear on the website, I've changed the info box > > title from "Create new programs" to "For developers" - and changed the > > action link in that info box from "Create programs" to "Developers". &g

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where is the source code?

2024-05-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 9:32 AM Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > > To make this more clear on the website, I've changed the info box > > title from "Create new programs" to "For developers" - and changed the > > action link in that info box from "Create programs" to "Developers". > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] still can't find the source code

2024-05-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
*First: it is not good "netiquette" to start a new thread when you are following up from a previous post. You should have written this as a reply to your first email. On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 4:50 AM Green Fog via Freedos-devel wrote: > > I can see the potential of Freedos if these 2 conditions

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where is the source code?

2024-05-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 3:23 AM tom ehlert via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 7, 2024, 8:46 PM Green Fog via Freedos-devel < > > freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > > >> I neither can find the source code in www.freedos.org or sourceforge.net. > >> Is this an open source

Re: [Freedos-devel] Connection info for the virtual get-together

2024-05-07 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
[...] > Not a typo. :-) > > It just happens that the 30th anniversary is a Saturday. (June 20, 1994 - > 2024.) > > Now you're trying to confuse me, aren't you...  > Wow, of all the places to have a typo, it's in an email where I claimed no typo.  That should have been: June 2*9*, 1994-2024

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where is the source code?

2024-05-07 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, May 7, 2024, 10:20 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > > On Tue, May 7, 2024, 8:46 PM Green Fog via Freedos-devel < > freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > >> I neither can find the source code in www.freedos.org or sourceforge.net. >> Is this an open source

Re: [Freedos-devel] Where is the source code?

2024-05-07 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, May 7, 2024, 8:46 PM Green Fog via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > I neither can find the source code in www.freedos.org or sourceforge.net. > Is this an open source project or not? I highly suggest that the source > code download link to be included in your

Re: [Freedos-devel] Connection info for the virtual get-together

2024-05-07 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, May 7, 2024, 9:23 PM Ralf Quint via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On 5/5/2024 10:15 AM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote: > [..] > > We talked about doing the next virtual get-together on Saturday, June > > 29 (11am-noon, US/Cent

Re: [Freedos-devel] Connection info for the virtual get-together

2024-05-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Thanks to everyone who joined the virtual get-together today! We had 11 people on the call, and we did some virtual debugging, demo'd some programs, and talked about other technical topics. We talked about doing the next virtual get-together on Saturday, June 29 (11am-noon, US/Central). That's

[Freedos-devel] Connection info for the virtual get-together

2024-05-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! Here's how to connect to the virtual get-together, in 20 minutes from now. FYI that we need to keep today's meeting to an hour. We usually go over, but I'm not able to today. FreeDOS virtual get-together (technical) Sunday, May 5 • 11:00 AM – 12:00 PM Google Meet joining info

Re: [Freedos-devel] [Semi-OT] Thoughts: Actually doing stuff with MS-DOS 4.01

2024-05-03 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, May 3, 2024, 11:19 PM Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > On Fri, 3 May 2024, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel wrote: > > [...] > > > The FSF people also say the Expat/MIT license is compatible with the GNU > > GPL. Y

Re: [Freedos-devel] [Semi-OT] Thoughts: Actually doing stuff with MS-DOS 4.01

2024-05-03 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, May 3, 2024, 10:53 PM Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel < freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: > So I've had some thoughts regarding the MS-DOS 4 source drop, regarding > [...] > (The obvious question: > Why not use what FreeDOS already has? A: Because I'd like to have the >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Runtime

2024-05-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Good "netiquette" is to only discuss one topic per email thread, so I started a new thread for Runtime: On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:12 PM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote: [..] > *Runtime* > > Jim's version is a small C program, 120 lines, using catgets > for messages which can be translated in

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Terminal

2024-05-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Good "netiquette" is to only discuss one topic per email thread, so I started a new thread for Terminal: On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 4:12 PM Eric Auer via Freedos-devel wrote: > Willi has asked Jerome and me whether RUNTIME and TERMINAL > in the auersoft.eu versions were real updates or just tests.

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together coming up (Sunday)

2024-04-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! I wanted to remind everyone of the upcoming FreeDOS virtual get-together, happening on Sunday, May 5 at 11am US/Central (use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time). I'll share the link when the meeting starts. As before, we'll use Google Meet. We alternate topics

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 4.0 source released as open source under MIT license

2024-04-28 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 4:33 PM Han Held via Freedos-devel wrote: > > For anyone interested, Neozeed has a youtube video that he put up that walks > through the steps of fetching dos 4's source from github and building a > bootable copy of it. > [Compiling MS-DOS 4.0 using DOSbox & Qemu] > I

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 4.0 source released as open source under MIT license

2024-04-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
To correct myself: I was getting a bunch of unrelated errors because I made a mistake in my SETENV.BAT file. I set the CL, LINK, and MASM variables to point to the executables (similar to what you might do on Unix makefiles with CC, CFLAGS, etc) But those variables are options to those commands

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 4.0 source released as open source under MIT license

2024-04-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: [..] > > But when I try to build it, it fails in the MAPPER directory with > > "line too long": > > [..] > >> cd ..\mapper > >> nmake > >> > >> Microsoft (R) Program Maintenance Utility Version

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 4.0 source released as open source under MIT license

2024-04-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 2:28 PM Jim Hall wrote: > [..] > How did you compile it? I'm having trouble getting the compile to work. > > Here's what I'm doing: I've booted my system using FreeDOS but using > their tools. My C: drive is FreeDOS, and my D: drive is empty except > for

Re: [Freedos-devel] MS-DOS 4.0 source released as open source under MIT license

2024-04-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
> On Fri, 26 Apr 2024, Bernd Böckmann via Freedos-devel wrote: > > > Microsoft and IBM released the source code of MS-DOS 4.0 under MIT > > license [1]. To me, it looks fairly complete. On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 2:25 AM Steve Nickolas via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Everything but himem, dosshell,

[Freedos-devel] The new FreeDOS wiki

2024-04-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I wasn't able to finish copying over the content from our old wiki to the new wiki before SourceForge applied another update to their web server, which completely broke the old wiki. But I copied over most of the wiki before then. Two things that are obviously missing are two setup guides:

[Freedos-devel] Edlin [was: libm-0.7 Released!]

2024-04-14 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Tom Ehlert wrote: > > btw: do you have a lot of communication about EDLIN? Gregory Pietsch wrote: > > I did have a lot of communication about Edlin when it was first released, but > not as much anymore. I actually use Edlin, and I do so without irony. It's great if you run a command and want

Re: [Freedos-devel] libm-0.7 Released!

2024-04-13 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 12:35 PM Gregory Pietsch via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Submitted for your approval, the latest version of libm, FreeDOS's > public domain math library, has been released! For this version, > I have worked on edge cases regarding complex numbers and dug deep > into the C99

Re: [Freedos-devel] I16GCC would need DJGPP, but DJGPP not present in FDT2404 (fixed!)

2024-04-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 10:20 AM Jim Hall wrote: > The DJGPP environment variable just needs to point to a file called > DJGPP.ENV (or whatever) that contains a bunch of environment settings > for programs that were compiled with DJGPP. For example, this file > contains stanzas for GN

[Freedos-devel] Proposal for new package in T2405

2024-04-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Based on my other email about getting IA-16 GCC to work on T2404 without installing DJGPP, I propose adding a new package in T2405 called I16ENV that just has two files in it: /devel/i16gnu/djgpp.env /devel/i16gnu/setenv.bat The DJGPP.ENV file contains just: DJDIR= And the SETENV.BAT file sets

Re: [Freedos-devel] I16GCC would need DJGPP, but DJGPP not present in FDT2404 (fixed!)

2024-04-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 5:46 PM Paul Dufresne via Freedos-devel wrote: > > But installing I16BUTIIL, > SET DJDIR=C:\DEVEL\I16GNU > i16gcc -o hel2.exe hel2.c > works! > [..] The DJGPP environment variable just needs to point to a file called DJGPP.ENV (or whatever) that contains a bunch of

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS Wiki

2024-03-26 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 5:25 PM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hi, > > Apparently, the (old) FreeDOS wiki on sourceforge is down or broken. > > After visiting the FreeDOS.org website, navigating to “Read the > wiki” and waiting, I just get a blank page after redirection to the > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FETCH4FD

2024-03-23 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 6:23 AM Danilo Pecher via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Neofetch is a good way to give you a quick overview of the machine's > parameters. It's perhaps more of a gimmick under DOS, but in a unix > environment it can be a godsent. When I was database administrator at > Infineon

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS wiki updates + questions

2024-03-20 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
> On Wednesday, March 20th, 2024 at 10:09 AM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > wrote: > [..] > > What to do about the "Networking How-to"? This is a collection of > > pages that wasn't written as a typical "wiki" page (every page in a > > wiki sho

[Freedos-devel] FreeDOS wiki updates + questions

2024-03-20 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I've been moving the FreeDOS wiki content over by copy/paste. And I've finished almost all of the tricky pages .. then it's a collection of small pages (mostly usage pages for programs) which I think should go quickly. Then I'll add wiki editor accounts for anyone who wants them. The new wiki

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
-devel wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > > On Mar 10, 2024, at 1:42 PM, Jim Hall via Freedos-devel > > wrote: > > > > On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 12:09 PM Jim Hall wrote: > >> > >> Thanks to everyone who joined the FreeDOS virtual get-together today!

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 12:09 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Thanks to everyone who joined the FreeDOS virtual get-together today! > > This call was really just "social time" so we spent a lot of time > catching up with one another. > > The next virtual get-together wi

Re: [Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Thanks to everyone who joined the FreeDOS virtual get-together today! This call was really just "social time" so we spent a lot of time catching up with one another. The next virtual get-together will focus on "technical." That's a great opportunity to do live debugging, work through issues, and

[Freedos-devel] Here's the meeting URL

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I'll start the get-together in a few minutes, but here's the URL for anyone who needs it: FreeDOS virtual get-together (social) Sunday, March 10 · 11:00am – 12:30pm Time zone: America/Chicago Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/eua-spwn-euy Or dial: ‪(US) +1

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: virtual get-together

2024-03-10 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone Don't forget about this morning's virtual get-together! We are on Daylight Saving Time in the US. It's 9:00am now, so that means the meeting is in two hours from now (11:00-12:00). See you then! ___ Freedos-devel mailing list

Re: [Freedos-devel] I'm migrating the wiki

2024-03-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
A quick status on migrating the wiki: I set up a new Wikimedia instance on a new wiki.freedos.org host this week, and yesterday I started to copy content from the old wiki into the new wiki. This is a copy/paste exercise for a few reasons that I've explained in another email, but here's a

Re: [Freedos-devel] I'm migrating the wiki

2024-03-08 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 3:53 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Just wanted to share that I'm (finally) migrating the FreeDOS Wiki > content. I've set up a new wiki instance on a new server, and I'm > going through the list of pages on the old wiki, and copy/pasting the > content

[Freedos-devel] I'm migrating the wiki

2024-03-07 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Just wanted to share that I'm (finally) migrating the FreeDOS Wiki content. I've set up a new wiki instance on a new server, and I'm going through the list of pages on the old wiki, and copy/pasting the content on the new wiki. That sounds like a lot of work, but a lot of the content needs to be

[Freedos-devel] Website has moved to new hosting

2024-03-06 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
FYI that the www.freedos.org website has moved to new hosting. It's still at the same website hosting company, but on a new server. (This was the web hosting company doing a planned replacement of the old hardware.) Things look like they have moved over okay, I don't see any issues. They are

[Freedos-devel] Reminder: FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday

2024-03-06 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone! I wanted to send a reminder of our upcoming FreeDOS virtual get-together on Sunday, March 10. Same time as usual: from 11am to noon US/Central (use your favorite timezone converter to find your local time). However, note that March 10 is also the start of US Daylight Saving Time, so

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated FDAUTO.BAT file

2024-03-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
And I just saw the typo in DOSLFN.CON ... should be DOSLFN.COM I don't have LFN loaded, so I didn't see this come up. :-P Jerome: If you accept this for the next test release, please fix my typo. :-) ___ Freedos-devel mailing list

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated FDAUTO.BAT file

2024-03-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Resending with FDAUTO.BAT as a file attachment (renamed FDAUTO.TXT) so it's easier to try out the config. Jim @ECHO OFF REM - Updated AUTOEXEC file REM - set basic environment set DOSDRV=C: set DOSDIR=%DOSDRV%\FREEDOS path %DOSDIR%\BIN if not exist %DOSDIR%\LINKS\NUL goto NOLINKS path

[Freedos-devel] Updated FDAUTO.BAT file

2024-03-01 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone The new T2403 release prompted me to finish updating the FDAUTO.BAT file. Quick background: This started because I was looking to prevent the CTMOUSE driver from loading .. but it was a bit hard to read the FDAUTO file. So I simplified it on my end. This should do everything the

Re: [Freedos-devel] FDISK 1.3.14

2024-02-22 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Excellent news! I'll post an item on the website about it. I can't login to Ibiblio from where I'm at right now, so I can't mirror it - maybe someone else with Ibiblio access can do that for me. Otherwise I'll mirror this to Ibiblio over the weekend. Jim On Thu, Feb 22, 2024 at 12:25 PM Bernd

Re: [Freedos-devel] NewDOS source code has been published!

2024-02-17 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 8:39 AM Wilhelm Spiegl via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > I forgot to mention that there is another great new thing: NewDOS and its > source code is free since 2024-02-06! > NewDOS itself is freeware since 2018. > > You can grab it here:

[Freedos-devel] Directory cleanup on Ibiblio

2024-02-17 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
FYI that I've done a little reordering in the 'dos/debug' directory on Ibiblio. We actually have three versions of DEBUG here, so I wanted to make clear which was which: The change: Because it was the "original" FreeDOS DEBUG, we had each version of Vojta's DEBUG as a separate directory under

[Freedos-devel] Updated news items

2024-02-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I'm assuming folks check the website pretty regularly for various news - but in case not, I wanted to share these news items you may have missed about recent program updates. I try to stay up to date on new programs coming out, but I'm sure to miss some things. If a program has a new version out,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Xcopy 1.5

2024-02-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
it, share that news on the email list. On Fri, Feb 16, 2024, 11:14 PM Jim Hall wrote: > I noticed over on the BTTR forum, Fritz asked this question about Xcopy > 1.5. But freedos-devel is really the best place to discuss FreeDOS > distribution topics, so I wanted to start a thread here to

[Freedos-devel] Xcopy 1.5

2024-02-16 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I noticed over on the BTTR forum, Fritz asked this question about Xcopy 1.5. But freedos-devel is really the best place to discuss FreeDOS distribution topics, so I wanted to start a thread here to make sure the question was asked in the right place: Fritz asked: >>>

Re: [Freedos-devel] Talking about Soundblaster emulation

2024-02-15 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Since SBEMU (and I assume VSBHDA - I haven't used it) are working well to provide sound support on modern systems, I wonder if we should include it in the next version of FreeDOS - whether we call it "FreeDOS 1.4" or "FreeDOS 2.0." What do folks think? Do you use SBEMU or VSBHDA? What has been

Re: [Freedos-devel] Talking about Soundblaster emulation

2024-02-15 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 6:49 AM Eric Auer wrote: > Hi! > > Just noticed this video review and tutorial about making a FreeDOS > boot stick with SBEMU on it, with Rufus in Windows, based on the > FreeDOS 1.3 USB version: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GKYcpXlGIM > > It just renames setup bat

[Freedos-devel] Removing MetaDOS from the files archive (Ibiblio)

2024-02-07 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I'm sharing this as an FYI. We used to mirror a copy of Rugxulo's MetaDOS (from 2019) at the FreeDOS Files Archive on Ibiblio. However, when it became too outdated (and to remove confusion with the FreeDOS distribution) we eventually marked the directory as "private" which effectively made it

Re: [Freedos-devel] NLS in Edlin

2024-02-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Not really about internationalization, so I'll make it a separate email: Whenever you quit Edlin, you always get this prompt: > *q > Abort edit (Y/n)? y I always find it a little concerning when I've already saved my file and Edlin asks if I want to "abort" my edit. It always makes me answer

Re: [Freedos-devel] NLS in Edlin

2024-02-05 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Gregory Pietsch wrote: > Believe me, I've had a few headaches over the years regarding NLS. This > led to the myriad of ways to do NLS in Edlin. Anyway, all the strings > that would need to be translated are #defines in msgs.h, and I included > a simple filter program to generate msgs.h files from

Re: [Freedos-devel] Problem booting FreeDOS on Book8088 PC-XT laptop

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
roytam wrote: [..] > and as discussion in > http://www.bttr-software.de/forum/board_entry.php?id=21061, FreeDOS > can boot on Book8088 once FreeDOS' LBA support is disabled. This may > because of XT-IDE BIOS and/or Xi8088 BIOS handling when Int 13h,AH=41h > running twice by FreeDOS kernel. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] Link for today's virtual meeting

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 12:40 PM Jerome Shidel via Freedos-devel wrote: > > Hi Jim, > > Interestingly, when you left the online meeting, it kept going at > least for a few seconds until I clicked end-call. > > I don’t know if it would have kept going indefinitely. > > We will have to try that next

Re: [Freedos-devel] Updated HTML Help

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
One question I have is: is there a zip file where I can download all of HTML Help at once, to view on my local computer? I checked on your website starting at https://www.bootablecd.de/FreeDOS-Internet-version/help110/ and I couldn't see a link to a zip file. On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 11:34 AM Jim

[Freedos-devel] Updated HTML Help

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
I didn't see Willi's email to freedos-devel because it was part of an unrelated topic, so I am re-sharing his email under a new thread to raise visibility. Willi wrote: > As english help is completed now, i only have to run final things to reduce > size and to look for bugs etc. It would be

[Freedos-devel] Link for today's virtual meeting

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
FreeDOS virtual get-together (technical) Google Meet joining info Video call link: https://meet.google.com/kca-qufs-api I'll see you there in fifteen minutes! Or dial: +1 515-318-5132 PIN: 587 730 560# More phone numbers: https://tel.meet/kca-qufs-api?pin=1068170768202

Re: [Freedos-devel] Link for today's virtual meeting

2024-02-04 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Well, that email didn't get sent out on time ("fifteen minutes") ... sorry for the delay. Meeting is starting now. :-) On Sun, Feb 4, 2024 at 10:46 AM Jim Hall wrote: > > FreeDOS virtual get-together (technical) > > Google Meet joining info > > Video call link: >

Re: [Freedos-devel] FreeDOS package data fork, sort of

2024-02-03 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi Eric This is a really interesting effort and I think it would be good to find a way to get Willi's efforts integrated somehow into the changelog for the monthly test releases. But as you've mentioned, there's a lot of overlap here. I think the right place to start is to talk about it. But we

Re: [Freedos-devel] Problem booting FreeDOS on Book8088 PC-XT laptop

2024-02-03 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi Eric! I'm glad you're bringing this conversation back to freedos-devel .. because this is a good place to discuss FreeDOS things. Eric Auer wrote: >> >> Hi! As you may have read, some company has created an eeepc sized PC-XT >> laptop called Book8088. It ships with MS DOS on a CF card. Bocke

Re: [Freedos-devel] Cleaning up FDAUTO

2024-02-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Here's my second pass at cleaning up my FDAUTO.BAT file. If you like it, feel free to use it. This does a lot of streamlining from the "stock" FDAUTO.BAT in T2402. I've pared it down to just a few jump points that are more readable to me: HIGH, LOW, and LOCALCFG. At a high level, it's organized

Re: [Freedos-devel] Cleaning up FDAUTO

2024-02-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 5:30 PM Jim Hall wrote: > > Hi everyone > > I've been testing the new 2402 release, and decided I finally wanted > to streamline (cleanup?) the FDAUTO.BAT file to make it more readable > and easier to see what's happening. > > First, here's my te

[Freedos-devel] Cleaning up FDAUTO

2024-02-02 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Hi everyone I've been testing the new 2402 release, and decided I finally wanted to streamline (cleanup?) the FDAUTO.BAT file to make it more readable and easier to see what's happening. First, here's my text description of what's going on in FDAUTO. I'll reply with a copy of the FDAUTO that I'm

Re: [Freedos-devel] Next FreeDOS virtual get-together

2024-01-31 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jerome Shidel wrote: > > Did you decide on the new conferencing software? > I have a Google Apps subscription and Google Meet does a good job, doesn't require installing client software, and it doesn't "cut off" after a half hour. (When's I googled it, it looked like Meet would limit you to 30

Re: [Freedos-devel] MAD compiler for DOS?

2024-01-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
Jim Hall wrote: > > I am working on an academic project that requires understanding the MAD > > programming language so I can pick apart (and faithfully recreate) an old > > MAD program. That's the Michigan Algorithm Decoder, from 1959 and the early > > 1960s. tom ehler

Re: [Freedos-devel] MAD compiler for DOS?

2024-01-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
[..] Jim Hall wrote: [..] > > I'm thinking about writing a book about the early history of document > > preparation systems, and RUNOFF seemed a good place to start. I want > > to faithfully recreate the MAD code in another programming language - > > not an automate

Re: [Freedos-devel] Aw] MAD compiler for DOS?

2024-01-30 Thread Jim Hall via Freedos-devel
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:51 PM Wilhelm Spiegl wrote: > > https://wiki.edu.vn/wiki17/2021/01/05/mad-programmiersprache-wikipedia/amp/# > > I dont know if this helps, run a translator if necessary > That's very cool, thanks for sharing that. The "amp" page didn't work for me, but I could access

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