Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-05 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi Alain, I completely understand your point, I can't help with that now, but I assume you have filled a bugzilla entry. We would just make sure that this bug goes to the 1.0 mandatory list (forthcomming). Aitor Alain escribió: Aitor Santamaría Merino escreveu: Given the interest back

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-05 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi Tom, Many thanks, this is the kind of replies I was hoping to have. I just add my two cents, tom ehlert escribió: I'd like to launch a proposal as well: a) remove all components that don't work like DEFRAG's that don't do anything DEFRAG's that thrash FAT32 because they don't

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-04 Thread tom ehlert
Hi there, Given the interest back of the FreeDOS 1.0 issue, ... I'd like to launch a proposal, with this points: I'd like to launch a proposal as well: a) remove all components that don't work like DEFRAG's that don't do anything DEFRAG's that thrash FAT32 because they don't understand

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-04 Thread Alain
My two cents, tom ehlert escreveu: a) remove all components that don't work like DEFRAG's that don't do anything DEFRAG's that thrash FAT32 because they don't understand FAT32 Agreed. No dangerous sw should be in the standard didtribution. b) decide which chkdsk to use; providing 2,3

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-04 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Alain, c) make it a DOS distribution ( ~1-2 MB), not a pile of each and every more or less useful or useless programm that happens to work on freedos; provide a hyperlink for [more packets] I agree. But I am making my own distro, which just shows that I disagree ;-) I don't

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-03 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 2-Ноя-2005 23:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: BC present...), and 2) FreeCOM is already VERY Turbo C specific; BC portability is definately not an issue. Portability _is_ issue. At least, to OpenWatcom (which is MSVC, not BC

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-03 Thread Alain
Aitor Santamaría Merino escreveu: Given the interest back of the FreeDOS 1.0 issue, I really don't understand why so much effort is put in new and 1.0 stuff and when I report a BUG in the KERNEL so serious that I had to remove FreeDOS from a real user machine I didn't even get ONE answer

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-03 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Alain, I really don't understand why so much effort is put in new and 1.0 stuff and when I report a BUG in the KERNEL so serious that I had to remove FreeDOS from a real user machine I didn't even get ONE answer from the list what do you expect ? 'some program of mine doesn't

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-03 Thread Alain
Blair Campbell escreveu: BC present...), and 2) FreeCOM is already VERY Turbo C specific; BC portability is definately not an issue. Portability _is_ issue. At least, to OpenWatcom (which is MSVC, not BC compatible). Portability is definately not an issue to non-DOS compilers. As I

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-03 Thread Alain
Blair Campbell escreveu: [...] It will make FreeCOM a smaller binary (desperately needed; Why do you need so much space? Can you tell me what target application? 2) FreeCOM is already VERY Turbo C specific; portability is definately not an issue. I understood from previous discussions

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-03 Thread Blair Campbell
Why do you need so much space? Can you tell me what target application? FreeCOM can't currently be compiled with all of its features due to size; the limit of the small memory model is 64kb and FreeCOM is exceeds this limit with all features compiled in.

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-03 Thread Alain
Hi Tom, what do you expect ? 'some program of mine doesn't work; it was to do X' unless to give precise instructions how to reproduce the bug, and the program as well, noone will even have a chance to work on this - even IF they would be interested I am sorry to disapoint you, but I

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-03 Thread Alain
Blair Campbell escreveu: Why do you need so much space? Can you tell me what target application? FreeCOM can't currently be compiled with all of its features due to size; the limit of the small memory model is 64kb and FreeCOM is exceeds this limit with all features compiled in. Ok,

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-03 Thread Alain
ok Jeremy, I believe that you arfe entitled a lot more than two cents on this topic ;-) I also believe that FreeDOS is ready to 1.0. I installed it in a real user application which is heavy database + graphics in 32 bits and it behaved *better* than MS-DOS 7.10!!! The only problem is that

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-02 Thread Blair Campbell
Personally, I don't know if this is a good optimization because stdio.h is Standard C, while io.h is an extension. It should I do, because 1) It will make FreeCOM a smaller binary (desperately needed; FreeCOM can't even be compiled with all features at present...), and 2) FreeCOM is already

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-02 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 2-Ноя-2005 23:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gregory Pietsch) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: - Input/output functions to replace stdio.h by io.h (aka replace FILE*-based I/O by handle-based one) GP Personally, I don't know if this is a good optimization because GP stdio.h is Standard

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-02 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 2-Ноя-2005 21:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Blair Campbell) wrote to freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net: BC present...), and 2) FreeCOM is already VERY Turbo C specific; BC portability is definately not an issue. Portability _is_ issue. At least, to OpenWatcom (which is MSVC, not BC

Re: [Freedos-devel] Towards FreeCOM (or FreeDOS) 1.0

2005-11-02 Thread Blair Campbell
BC present...), and 2) FreeCOM is already VERY Turbo C specific; BC portability is definately not an issue. Portability _is_ issue. At least, to OpenWatcom (which is MSVC, not BC compatible). Portability is definately not an issue to non-DOS compilers.